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dalek rrot: r40225 | whiteknight++ | branches/bsr_jsr_ret (2 files):
[bsr_jsr_ret] convert more files
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bacek_at_work hi there 00:09
Whiteknight hello bacek_at_work
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Whiteknight urg, some of these old test files are rediculously ugly and old and ugly 00:15
they are using some of the most archaic code, I would hate for a new user to see this kind of crap and think that's the way it was done
t/op/cmp-nonbranch.t is a terrible horrible example that should die in a fire 00:16
Coke ... lost another 4 tests... 00:19
wtf.
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dalek cnum-dynpmcs: r116 | darbelo++ | trunk/ (3 files):
Let's get started with DecInt, it doesn't dtrt yet, but we'll get there.
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dalek cnum-dynpmcs: r117 | darbelo++ | trunk/aux/decTest2pir.pl:
With the PCT decTest intepreter mostly-done we don't need this script anymore.
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rdinal: 7cacdbb | (Ted Reed)++ | Rakefile:
Add a line to the Rakefile test:all statistics that declares that the current source is clean for commit.
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rdinal: 0503fb6 | (Ted Reed)++ | src/classes/Array.pir:
Reimplement Array.uniq to ensure that the order stays the same.
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treed What's the word on the iter opcode? 01:08
I know there's been a lot of discussion about opcodes vs. methods and I'm curious what direction it's going. 01:09
Specifically WRT the iter opcode.
bacek_at_work treed: there is iter opcode. And it works. mostly 01:11
treed Is it deficient compared to making a new "Iterator"? 01:12
And is the current plan preferring the opcode over using Iterator?
bacek_at_work treed: "new 'Iterator'" is gone. 01:13
treed Eh?
It's still working for me.
When did it leave?
bacek_at_work just update to latest parrot :)
treed Ah. 01:14
bacek_at_work after 1.4 release
treed So then this patch to cardinal changing all Iterator into iter should definitely be applied.
I think it's been a few days since I've done svn up on parrot.
bacek_at_work if you want to create own aggregate and iteratable classes you have to implement own Iterator-based class. And return instance of it from VTABLE_get_iter 01:15
treed But RPA and friends already do that? 01:16
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dalek rdinal: ff8ddf9 | (Joeri Samson)++ | (14 files):
Use iter opcode instead of new 'Iterator'
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Austin fail! 01:28
Where's fail?
purl somebody said fail was strong in buu
cotto fail is gone. Goodbye fail. 01:30
It got deprecated.
I'm not sure what the expected replacement is.
Austin That's nice. 01:31
jdv who's fail? 01:32
purl fail is strong in buu
Austin And yet the documentation disagrees.
cotto It was just removed. I wouldn't be surprised if the docs didn't get updated. 01:34
pmichaud, ping
pmichaud, what's the replacement for <fail> ?
Whiteknight <win>
Austin Whiteknight: :-)
cotto Hmm. I meant to send that after he ponged.
Austin Maybe { fail(); } 01:35
Except I suspect it'll be something I can't figure out, like &.!fail()
darbelo cotto: This reminds me, the "Removal of PGE rules:" line on the release announcement to the parrot front page shows up as blank on my browser. 01:38
I suspect you need to escape your angle brackets there.
cotto I 'spect so. 01:39
darbelo++ for noticing 01:41
it's fixed now
Austin Hmm. Rakudo's grammar.pg still has a <fail> in it. 01:42
dalek rtcl: r539 | coke++ | wiki/SpecTestStatus.wiki:
4 more failures...
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Coke has dropped from 62 spec files being processed to 43... 01:49
holy crap, dude.
Coke removes the skips and tries again...
cotto Austin, epic 01:51
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Austin ?epic? 01:57
cotto as in epic fail 02:00
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Austin cotto: It seems that way. I'm wading through recoding my grammar, and it's pretty epic. 02:13
Coke hey, guess what. re-ran the spec test... 5 more failures. 02:18
what the holy hell is going on?
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chromatic Acute bitrot? 02:23
hydrapheetz paraboxes?
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dalek rtcl: r540 | coke++ | wiki/SpecTestStatus.wiki:
More failures... and one is back?

each update...		 02:27
Coke chromatic: bitrot when no code has changed in parrot or partcl?
Coke perhaps optimized parrot isn't usable.
Coke runs the suite again... 02:28
hydrapheetz And by paraboxes I mean Farnsworth Paraboxes. Heh.
Coke is there any reason to avoid an --optimize'd parrot? 02:33
aside from lack of debugging goodness?
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Coke .... 3 more failures... 02:53
bacek_at_work Coke: what happening??? 02:54
cotto sanity has been defeated 02:56
Coke bacek_at_work: I am re-running the spec test, skipping any new failures. I have re-iterated this process, what, 5 times?
(for partcl)
each time I run it, there are new failures.
treed Did something with get_pmc_keyed on String change recently?
(Suddenly inexplicable failures with Cardinal's test suite.) 02:57
cotto Coke, does partcl work with svn head?
Wow. I guess someone took me literally when I encouraged everyone to break stuff.
s/head/head of parrot/ 02:58
treed get_pmc_keyed() not implemented in class 'String'
Coke cotto: I'm using tom@yandell.me.uk 03:01
er.
r40217
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treed Does iter use get_pmc_keyed? 03:04
treed tries to find it in the docs.
Coke treed: I think it depends on what you shift off the iterator. 03:06
treed Would be a pmc, yeah.
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treed I wonder if changing that to string would fix it. 03:07
no, that'd break things
cotto Coke, I'm running the spec tests and will tell you what happens.
treed I guess I just need to implement that op.
I wonder why that test was passing before. 03:08
Huh.
It already is implemented on that class.
Coke cotto: I'm using tools/spec_info.pl 03:09
(as that updates the docs/ files also)
and I'm finding that if I run some of the failing tests manually, they pass. (*&#$#>
cotto Coke, thanks 03:12
Coke ... wtf. 03:13
treed Actually. 03:19
I wonder if this is related: The get_pmc_keyed is actually returning $S0 03:20
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Coke treed: what problem are you having? 03:26
treed Coke: I'm having a few of my tests fail with the message get_pmc_keyed() not implemented in class 'String' 03:28
It wasn't failing a few days ago.
And the function it's bailing out of doesn't actually use keyed access to anything, except maybe through iter. 03:29
But iter should be iterating on CardinalString, which *does* implement that vtable.
I just tried rewriting the method that implements it so that it returns from $P0 instead of $S0, but that doesn't seem to have fixed anything. 03:31
2754 iter P3, P1 P3=PMCNULL P1=Object(CardinalString)=PMC(0xc94a20) 03:37
2757 unless P3, 15 P3=Iterator=PMC(0xc94690)
2760 shift P0, P3 P0=PMCNULL P3=Iterator=PMC(0xc94690)
That's... interesting.
does Iterator copy the object, or is it iterating on something else entirely? 03:38
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cotto Coke, nopaste for you 04:13
nopaste "cotto" at 74.61.2.46 pasted "make spectest results for partcl on Ubuntu Jaunty on x86" (35 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/17370
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dalek rdinal: db1ff47 | (Ted Reed)++ | (3 files):
Implement Array.compact and .compact!; tests included.
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cotto time for sleep 05:05
good night 05:06
Tene 'night 05:30
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dalek kudo: ee402a7 | pmichaud++ | docs/ (2 files):
Fill in a release name for #19 (Chicago)
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kudo: 39d9e10 | pmichaud++ | docs/spectest-progress.csv:
spectest-progress.csv update: 416 files, 11876 passing, 0 failing
kudo: 9b37b81 | pmichaud++ | docs/announce/2009-07:
Update announcement with spectest results.
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dalek rrot: r40226 | petdance++ | trunk (2 files):
Parrot_get_namespace_keyed should not take a NULL pmc_key
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szabgab the latest version of Padre and Padre::Plugin::Parrot finally allows syntax highlighting for any language built on the Parrot Compiler Toolkit, I'd be glad if some of you gave it a shot in the next few days 08:44
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mikehh All tests PASS (pre/post config, smolder, fulltest) at r40226 - Ubuntu 9.04 amd64 09:21
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bacek o hai... 10:08
moritz++ # filter irclogs by nick
masak has the search function improved, though? it's been pretty wacky every time I've used it. 10:10
bacek treed: around? 10:11
masak: I didn't see search function before.
moritz bacek: it was missingtheplan++, not me 10:30
bacek: I wanted to re-write the search function with KinoSearch, but I'm still waiting for the 2.0 release 10:31
bacek KinoSearch? 10:32
purl KinoSearch is immature, plucene is a hog.
moritz KinoSearch is also a rather cool perl search engine modeled after lucene 10:33
purl okay, moritz.
bacek moritz: try BOSS. It should be very cool
purl: BOSS? 10:34
purl hmmm... BOSS is a mass-produced canned ice coffee product sold in God-forsaken Asian countries or me, of course
bacek purl: no, BOSS is Build your Own Search Service by Yahoo
purl okay, bacek.
bacek purl: BOSS is also developer.yahoo.com/search/boss/ 10:35
purl okay, bacek.
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dalek kudo: 1c8c88f | jnthn++ | src/classes/ (2 files):
Make .multi work on Routine/Multi. Gets last fudged tests in S12-introspection/methods.t passing.
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whiteknight good morning #parrot 12:20
and it IS morning, no matter what bacek says :)
masak well... here in Europe, we've left this whole morning thing behind us. 12:26
we've already started in on the afternoon. 12:27
dalek kudo: f5ccc0c | jnthn++ | src/parrot/ClassHOW.pir:
Implement :private flag for .^methods and remove outdated todo comments now those things are todone.
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Coke msg cotto - looks like you're failing a similar number of tests that I am. 12:43
purl Message for cotto stored.
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Jimmy I lost the messages 14:48
particle as in, purl had messages for you, but when you type '/msg purl messages' it returns none? 14:52
Jimmy thanks, get it now 14:56
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dalek rrot: r40227 | NotFound++ | trunk (2 files):
[imcc] convert warning about duplicate identifier in error, TT #767
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dalek kudo: 346ae98 | jnthn++ | t/spectest.data:
Add S12-introspection/attributes.t to spectest.data.
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rrot: r40228 | dukeleto++ | trunk/t/tools/dump_pbc.t:
Fix typo in POD of dump_pbc.t
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Coke bah. if I run "tools/spec_info.pl", compExpr-old.test dies. if I run that test file manually, it completes. Any clues, lazyirc? 15:53
jonathan Coke: In what way does it fail differently? 15:54
Coke: Sometimes such things are exit code issues.
That is, it exists with non-zero so the harness considers it a fail.
But running it manually at the command line doesn't show that. 15:55
Coke jonathan: it aborts after running some tests.
jonathan Oh
OK, so really different behavior. Eww.
Coke and I'm not using any kind of perl harness here.
(the tcl tests use Tcl's tcltest.tcl)
spec_info.pl is invoking tcl_test.pl which calls "system /path/to/parrot tcl.pbc /path/to/test" for each test. some of those just abort. :| 15:58
jonathan Does running under -G make any difference?
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jonathan That is, does some slightly different memory late trigger a GC heisenbug? 15:58
If not then...well...oddness.
Coke /home/coke/bird/bin/parrot -G tcl.pbc t_tcl/compExpr-old.test 16:00
Parrot VM: PANIC: Out of mem!
immediately. no other output.
jonathan wow
I wonder if that's *really* out of memory or just a "passed stupid value to malloc". 16:01
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Coke (not immediately, but it's the first thing that happens.) 16:02
Coke will try sans optimized parrot. 16:04
NotFound Will be useful to add to that panic message the amount of memory it was trying to allocate? 16:05
jonathan NotFound: I guess it saves getting a debugger out and breakpointing in panic... 16:06
NotFound Mmm... it can do now, but you must compile with DETAIL_MEMORY_DEBUG defined.
jonathan Ah, OK 16:08
NotFound I think the amount of messages generated by that define can interfere with any test, not very useful. 16:09
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dalek kudo: 241545b | jnthn++ | t/spectest.data:
Add S12-introspection/roles.t to spectest.data.
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Coke non-optimized parrot fares just as poorly. wtf. 16:13
Coke should apparently have been running the spec test daily up to the release.
I'm going to have to do a binary search to figure out when this spec test file started failing. :| 16:14
(not with -G. I don't particularly care that -G is failing) 16:15
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Coke what a mess. 16:21
purl PLEASE DO NOT MAKE A MESS IN HERE
nopaste "NotFound" at 213.96.228.50 pasted "Patch: show size in PANIC out of mem" (92 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/17371 16:23
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cotto good morningi 16:46
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treed bacek: Here now. 17:19
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Coke ... changed my harness to report when a segfault occurs. ok. that test is segfaulting. change ulimit to actually allow core file to be dumped. 17:48
re-run test.
... no segfault.
... really? 17:49
treed Awesome. 17:50
jonathan So the ulimit was getting in the way...or? 17:51
Coke awesome? it's (*@#&$ hideous. 17:55
why should the setting of ulimit -c cause or prevent a segfault?
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treed Sarcasm, man. 17:56
jonathan Coke: It's not just a memory limitation?
treed I run into segfault/sigbus kinda shit all the time.
jonathan doesn't know what ulimit does
Coke I'm not talking about memory.
jonathan Well, not at a specific flags level.
Coke I changed 'ulimit -c' - size of core file.
jonathan Ah, OK. 17:57
Then color me mystified. :-|
Really odd.
Coke it was originally set to 0. I changed it to unlimited, so the file would be created and I could actually find out about the segfault.
treed I was trying to debug something the other day. If I run it with -t 1, I get sigbus before it gets to the error I was trying to debug.
Quite frustrating.
I ended up reimplementing it to get around that. 17:58
Coke yah. -t1 && -t4 are both squirrely.
treed Is there something else I should use?
Coke nope.
old school 'print' debugging.
(which doesn't really count.)
treed Yeah, that's often what I resort to, but it wasn't helping me in this case. 17:59
All it did was prove that something was fucked up.
Coke yah. tracing has been fixed several times, but apparently not for good.
treed (A rule was getting called in actions.pm twice with two different arguments, when it should only get the first one. It's only used in one rule, and *that* rule only got one of them.
So I was trying to figure out why it was getting called the second time. 18:00
No luck.
cotto treed, you can do caveman debugging (print) of grammars with inline pir: {{ say "hi" }} 18:04
that might help the next time 18:05
treed I was using puts from actions.pm
All I was able to verify was that it was happening, not why the rule was getting called a second time.
particle gdb breakpoint
treed I ultimately figured out that my approach to solving that problem was going in the wrong way anyway. 18:06
So I'll have to think about a new solution.
Hopefully that new solution doesn't cause any such problems.
cotto treed, is there something I could play with 18:07
treed Hm?
What, the problem I was seeing?
cotto yeah
treed I stuffed that code into a git stash.
I can send you a patch or something of it.
Aw, hell. 18:08
Conflict.
purl conflict: n. when purl is debugging (a beer activity), but planning to have pasta (a wine meal) for dinner
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treed Wrong stash anyway. 18:11
Where should I put the diff?
cotto nopaste
no rush. git clone is *really* slow 18:12
treed nopaste?
purl nopaste is probably at nopaste.snit.ch/ (ask TonyC for new channels) or poundperl.pastebin.com/ or paste.scsys.co.uk/ or App::Nopaste or tools/dev/nopaste.pl or at www.extpaste.com/ or paste.scsys.co.uk (for #catalyst, #dbix-class, #moose and others) or gist.github.com/ or paste or gtfo
treed Should apply against cardinal HEAD. 18:15
Hm. Should that first one make a note here about the past? 18:16
cotto you have to pick the channel if you use the web interface
you can also use tools/dev/nopast.pl in Parrot and it'll dtrt
mostly
found it 18:18
treed I thought I did.
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dalek rtcl: r541 | coke++ | trunk/config/makefiles/root.in:
add a new rule to invoke spec_info
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rtcl: r542 | coke++ | trunk/ (4 files):
Instead of generating a monolithic .log output file, generate one for each

Also keep track of whether or not the test ran cleanly to completion, or segfaulted, or...
cotto treed, what's some ruby code to trigger the misbehavior? 18:20
treed a = "foo"; puts a
Is what I was using 18:21
puts gets processed by lhs
Which detects that it hasn't been declared in the lexical scope and declares it as a lexical.
Which means that it has no value and fails to run.
cotto I *think* I know what's happening. 18:25
treed I'd be interesting in hearing it. 18:27
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cotto The problem is that you're calling the action for lhs too early. At the point when you call its action, you aren't guaranteed to have a full assigment, just a varname. 18:28
You only want to call the lhs action after the whole assignment rule has been matched. 18:29
treed Huh.
Where should I call it instead?
cotto in the assignment rule 18:30
treed But that would call the assignment method.
cotto rather, you should move the work from the lhs action into the assignment action
treed Ah. 18:31
That seems a bit odd of a way for the parser to work.
I'd expect it to say "okay, this whole thing matches, now let's call the rules and get the AST tree going" 18:32
Tene not really.
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moritz treed: then you couldn't change the grammar from within the action methods 18:33
treed You can do that? :o
moritz (which "weird" languages like perl need to do)
you can install new operators in Perl 6
which is a grammar change
treed Huh, I suppose it would be.
moritz (you can do much more in Perl 6, but so far Rakudo only implements that)
(like, macros)
cotto treed, think of matching the grammar against a program as a progressive process 18:34
treed Well, thanks for helping me understand the error there.
As I said, I figured out that that direction wasn't going to be able to handle things as I'd like.
Because it was only handling assignment to variables, but you can mix and match keyed/member assignment as well.
So now I'm contemplating either trying to wrap that all up into a rule where it puts that data into a data structure and passes it to infix:=, or rewriting it to keep all the logic in actions.pm and farming out only simple assignment to PIR. 18:36
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Coke bizarre. the segfaults have stopped showing up (for now). wrote something to help figure out which tests to unskip, hopefully will get back up and running shortly. 19:11
(where shortly is probably at least 10 hours of running really slow code. =-)
NotFound No one has an opinion about the patch I nopasted some hours ago? 19:14
Coke it looked harmless? 19:15
(this was the panic one?)
NotFound Yeah
Well, I'll clean and commit it. If something is bad, I'll hear you scream X-) 19:17
chromatic +1 from me 19:18
dalek rrot: r40229 | NotFound++ | trunk/src/gc/alloc_memory.c:
[cage] show size in Out of mem panics
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Coke wow, these segfaults are squishy. 19:34
NotFound I have too much swap. Before I get an out of mem, it starts trashing. 19:41
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moritz ulimit++ 19:44
NotFound But I wanted a big number ;) 19:45
moritz use bignum; # ;-)
Coke moritz: I am still getting segfaults here and there. this didn't happen before people fixed rakudo's segfaults. =-) 19:47
moritz :( 19:48
why do I have to think of a waterbed now?
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Coke yah 19:49
NotFound Urgh, I'm unable to write correct printf formats at the first attempt 19:50
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dalek rrot: r40230 | NotFound++ | trunk/src/gc/alloc_memory.c:
[cage] fix bad printf format from r40229
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dalek rdinal: f154a71 | (Ted Reed)++ | (2 files):
Ensure that blocks embedded in strings are embedded with the return value, not the name of the block.
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treed Is there a list of roles used pervasively in Parrot? 21:24
Whiteknight no 21:25
PerlJam wonders what the real question is.
(that one seems like a prelude to something else)
treed Heh. 21:26
I want to know what role I should look for to see if something's a number/integer.
I could check for parent class, but roles seems like the proper way to handle that.
Also if something's a string. 21:27
chromatic Does it have to *be* a simple type, or is it okay to use get_string or get_integer VTABLE entries?
treed No. 21:28
I'm trying to avoid 100 == '100' from returning true.
It should be throwing ArgumentError.
It's still proper for String's get_integer to return an Integer representation.
But not for == to use it. 21:29
So I want to write iseq vtables for CardinalString and CardinalInteger to ensure that they're only comparing themselves against things which they should be. 21:30
And to throw the appropriate exception otherwise.
Should knock off about a third of the tests which are currently failing. 21:31
moritz I don't know much about parrot, but maybe it would be appropriate to make the get_string vtable in cardinal's integer die 21:32
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moritz and the get_integer in cardinal's string class 21:32
or are conversions normally wanted, just not in this case?
moritz knows next to nothing of ruby 21:33
dalek rrot: r40231 | whiteknight++ | branches/bsr_jsr_ret/t/op (2 files):
[bsr_jsr_ret] convert two string-related test files
rrot: r40232 | jonathan++ | trunk/runtime/parrot/library/P6object.pir:
[p6object] Allow specification of an already created metaclass in the register method, and create new metaclasses based upon the type of the current metaclass, so we handle derived ones better.
treed moritz: Conversions are wanted, usually explicitly via the .to_i method.
But there are cases where you don't need to explicitly convert. 21:34
Like sprintf
sprintf("%d", '123') will return '123'
moritz well, in perl implicit conversion is always allowed
treed Not in Ruby.
At least not in the case of ==
And I can't think of other cases where implicit conversion is allowed. 21:35
I was surprised that the sprintf thing works.
moritz the question is which is more work for you: either patch all the operations, or explicitly handle conversions where allowed, and forbid it in general
treed I discovered that when I tried to change CardinalString's get_integer to return the size.
Yeah, I considered the latter. 21:36
I may still end up doing it that way.
moritz but please wait for an answer from sombody else first, my parrot fu is really weak :(
treed Probably would be less work, but I haven't really looked into how many cases of implicit conversion exist. 21:37
treed nods.
I have to walk the dog right now, so I'll at least wait until after that.
BRB
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treed Hm. 21:57
Looks like implicit conversion is handled by .to_str or .to_int istead of to_s or to_i 21:58
Unsure if that helps me. 21:59
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treed Integer doesn't define either to_s or to_str 22:01
String definets to_i but not to_int 22:02
chromatic Strange thought for making vtable overrides from PIR work: use vtable swap to create a new vtable for the type when we know there's an override, then swap in a C function which can check for the override we already know is there. 22:07
Messy? Yes. Will it work? I believe so. Do we want to maintain it long term? HEY LOOK OVER THERE IT'S L1 HOORAY!
jonathan chromatic: Heh, messy it is. 22:11
Sounds workable though.
(And if by vtable swap you mean, just chaning the ->vtable pointer in the PMC structure...Rakudo already does that one. :-)) 22:12
erm, that part
chromatic I hate your opcode for that, but that's part of the reason we have vtables. 22:13
jonathan :-)
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dalek rrot: r40233 | whiteknight++ | branches/bsr_jsr_ret (8 files):
[bsr_jsr_ret] update more files and delete one file that was only for testing bsr
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rrot: r40234 | whiteknight++ | branches/bsr_jsr_ret/t/op/basic.t:
[bsr_jsr_ret] remove one test that only tested bsr
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dalek rrot: r40235 | tewk++ | trunk (3 files):
[ncigen] deprecation fixes
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dalek TT #788 closed by jkeenan++: Audit PDD30 compliance 22:53
kid51 chromatic ping 22:54
chromatic pong 22:55
kid51 Hi. Can you take a look at rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=42597 ? Thanks.
chromatic Will do. 22:56
Let's close it; we have the -Wc++-compat flag detection working now. 22:58
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kid51 Done. Thanks. 23:01
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dalek rrot: r40236 | whiteknight++ | branches/bsr_jsr_ret/examples (9 files):
[bsr_jsr_ret] update a few more files in examples/. the japh got a little bit less interesting.
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rrot: r40237 | bacek++ | branches/orderedhash_revamp/include/parrot/hash.h:
[pmc] Move ORDEREDHASH enum to public include. It used in OHIterator
rrot: r40238 | bacek++ | branches/orderedhash_revamp/src/pmc/orderedhashiterator.pmc:
[pmc] Implement basic iteration over OrderedHash
rrot: r40239 | bacek++ | branches/orderedhash_revamp/src/pmc/orderedhash.pmc:
[pmc] Add more setters to OrderedHash
rrot: r40240 | bacek++ | branches/orderedhash_revamp/src/pmc/orderedhash.pmc:
[pmc] Implement restoring order after OrderedHash clone/thaw.
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treed Well, shit. 23:21
dalek rrot: r40241 | whiteknight++ | branches/bsr_jsr_ret (4 files):
[bsr_jsr_ret] update more files, including ripping out some now-unused code from IMCC
rrot: r40242 | bacek++ | branches/orderedhash_revamp/src/pmc/orderedhash.pmc:
[pmc] Reimplement integer index access in OrderedHash.
treed The String PMC has a to_int method which I need to implement CardinalString's to_i. 23:22
However, CardinalString shouldn't have a to_int method.
So I need to block its use in a way that I can still use it.
I guess recast self as a String long enough to use to_int. 23:23
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dalek rdinal: 24b28eb | (Ted Reed)++ | src/classes/Object.pir:
Remove a duplicated method from Object.
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