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kthakore NotFound: that way I learn PIR too 00:00
ok caio
thanks man
NotFound kthakore: when you have a patch, create a ticket in track and attach it. 00:01
kthakore NotFound: do you guys like huge code bombs or manny small ones 00:05
darbelo kthakore: Smaller explosions are ussualy appreciated. 00:06
kthakore ok 00:07
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NotFound kthakore: in general, small ones, but if repairing a broken subsystem or module, one big may be fine. 00:07
diakopter NE1 around?
o good
kthakore I don't like code bomb's either 00:08
diakopter whom do I tell about a failed assertion in src/hash.c
darbelo diakopter: tell Trac ;)
diakopter poo 00:09
NotFound He's always on.
diakopter my account there was disabled
I think
darbelo diakopter: Or, in a less flippant way. Please open a ticket.
diakopter: You could easily open a new one.
diakopter the latest rakudo: {}.=() # causes OUTPUT«src/hash.c:144: failed assertion 's'␤Backtrace - Obtained 17 stack frames (max trace depth is 32).␤/home/p6eval//p2/lib/libparrot.so.2.1.0 [0x2b9596d2d173]␤/home/p6eval//p2/lib/libparrot.so.2.1.0(Parrot_confess+0x87) [0x2b9596d2d2a7]␤/home/p6eval//p2/lib/libparrot.so.2.1.0 00:10
darbelo diakopter: You installed the parrot 2.1.0 tarball ? 00:13
diakopter dunno. it's whatever the latest rakudo --gen-parrot got 00:14
darbelo You might want to try to reproduce with 2.1.1 with some additional bugfixes
diakopter: Oh, --gen-parrot, nevermind. that has the fixes already.
diakopter this is what runs the p6eval: bot (which happens to be on a vps I run) 00:15
ASSERT_ARGS(key_hash_STRING) 00:16
darbelo diakopter: An alternative to a Trac Ticket could be to mail to parrot-dev with the full info. 00:18
diakopter parrot-dev@parrot.org? 00:20
darbelo Yep
dalek cnum-dynpmcs: r197 | darbelo++ | trunk/src/pmc/dec (3 files):
Update function names to match the new pmc.c internals.
diakopter darbelo: parrot-dev@parrot.org isn't right 00:23
darbelo diakopter: Try @lists.parrot.org 00:24
I can't remember which lists need the prefix an which don't.
diakopter Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
ok; thanks
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dalek rrot: r44212 | NotFound++ | trunk/src/pmc/opcode.pmc:
replace op_count method in opcode pmc with vtable elements and add get_integer_keyed_int to get argument types
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m-dynpmcs: 6871d8b | darbelo++ | ports/plumage/dbm-dynpmcs.json:
Add plumage metadata.
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Coke seen diakopter? 00:33
purl diakopter was last seen on #parrot 9 minutes and 1 seconds ago, saying: ok; thanks
Coke darbelo: sending bug reports to parrot-dev when someone asks where they go is wrong. send them to trac. =-) 00:35
Coke approved the email. 00:36
NotFound Coke: he said something about his trac account disabled 00:37
dalek nxed: r418 | julian.notfound++ | trunk/examples/packfile.winxed:
refactor packfile example following changes in parrot r44212
darbelo Coke: I did send him to Trac, be he was having problems with his account.
git push 00:38
purl well, git push is much faster than svn ci or svk push
darbelo Ah, worng window.
redbrain i just started playing with the git mirror glad there is one :) who maintains it? 00:40
Coke dukeleto 00:41
purl dukeleto is mentoring a few peeps. can't remember everyone. sure.
darbelo dukeleto maintains *a* git mirror.
Coke NotFound: there is no trac account with "diakopter" or "wilson"
darbelo: ... it's the only git mirror for parrot, yes?
NotFound Coke: Wilson wasn't a coconut? 00:42
Coke ..?
darbelo Coke: How could I know? Anyone can mirror us.
NotFound Coke: a bad joke, forget it.
Coke darbelo: dukeleto maintains /the/ git mirror of our svn repo.
darbelo NotFound: No he was a ball.
dalek rrot-plumage: 6b5e14b | darbelo++ | metadata/dbm-dynpmcs.json:
Add dbm-dynpmcs metadata file.
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Coke -> again.
redbrain is there any nice simple thing for a new hacker to try and fix in parrot i've been trailing the code for a few days just to play with it but not really sure where to get involved 00:45
darbelo redbrain: C or PIR?
redbrain i've been playing with the idea to have some kind of project aimed to help projects output pir or pbc 00:46
the C mainly
i done some simple tests with the pir to its a nice IR
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Tene redbrain: there's been a desire for a long time ot be able to build PBC directly without going through imcc. 00:46
MikHel Hi!
NotFound Tene: and event better, without going through C ;) 00:47
redbrain what is imcc anyways i havent looked at it yet
NotFound redbrain: the current pir compiler
darbelo You're better off not looking at it.
MikHel is having a problem that he already faced in 1.5. Now it's 2.1.1: The mk_language_shell.pl does not create a makefile
darbelo MikHel: mk_language_shell.pl creates a setup.pir file. It's a new build method that doesn't use makefiles. 00:48
MikHel Anybody knows how to fix this? Used to be that doing make install-dev would fix this, but it does not do it this time around.
redbrain NotFound: ah ok yeah just looking at it now i see register allocation code
MikHel Ah
darbelo: So I just need to do parrot setup.pir ? 00:49
darbelo MikHel: Yes, you can also do parrot setup.pir help to see the available options
redbrain see i have my own project its an interpreter for a language i've been designing for just over a year now and i would like to see about having a pir/pbc backend as in have some kind of shared library that accepts some kind of representation and outputs the code
MikHel darbelo: I get: Parrot revision r43154 required (currently r0) 00:50
NotFound redbrain: generating pir is the easier way right now.
darbelo Are you working from a release tarball or an svn checkout?
MikHel release tarball. 00:51
:q 00:52
darbelo Hmm. Edit your setup.pir and remove the lines arround $P0 = open 'PARROT_REVISION', 'r'
redbrain NotFound: yeah but i also thought it might be nice to have some kind of compiler to pbc but need to think about it more, ideally i would probably like to find something i could maybe get involved in parrot to understand things a little more
darbelo It's five lines (the one above, that one, and three below) 00:53
NotFound redbrain: there is work in progress towards generating pbc using the packfile pmc, but to use that from C you need to embed parrot.
darbelo Oh, and the lines below, all the way to L1: too 00:54
Apparently the script assumes you'll be working out of a svn snapshot. I guess we'll have to teach it to deal gracefully with releases now. 00:55
But, I can't do it now. Gotta go.
redbrain NotFound: so if you were to embed parrot you could simply use it as a crazy pbc compiler + runtime lol what kind of structure do you pass to imcc to generate pbc or can you simply pass pir and thats where pir gets parsed? 00:57
cotto ponders a runtime lol 00:58
NotFound redbrain: using imcc directly can be a nightmare, the usual way is to call parrot with the -o option and a pir file 00:59
redbrain: for other way you can take a look at examples/embed/cotorra.c 01:00
cotto redbrain, examples/embed/cotorra.c may be of interest to you
redbrain cotto: seems cool though i am thinking the idea of building a library other projects can use to output pbc which you just pass some kind of structure but i think i need to get more familar with this all first :) 01:03
NotFound redbrain: note that the pbc format is subject to change, generating it directly is a risky business. 01:04
redbrain NotFound: ah ok yeah i guess its subject to when internals change in parrot
NotFound redbrain: yes, and internal changes are still not very unusual. 01:05
redbrain NotFound: yeah but its hard not to change things like that though but parrot still rocks lol
NotFound redbrain: you may want to take a look at winxed, is a compiler written in C++ that generates pir. 01:07
redbrain does it makes sense for generating pbc to create some kind of tree-ssa form? so you could nearly take some of gcc ssa optimizations? though i have always considered ssa for more static language i guess when were being dynamic its hard to make assumptions on whats going on 01:08
Tene redbrain: pmichaud specifically has done a lot of thought about what he wants for generating PBC, last I heard. I'd strongly recommend chatting with him.
redbrain sorry for annoying questions by the way :) nice to talk to you guys! 01:09
NotFound You're welcome
Tene not annoying at all
great to have you
dukeleto 'ello 01:16
cotto 'hello 01:17
dukeleto is working on getting parrot benchmarking stuff working on a new server 01:18
cotto shiny 01:19
dukeleto shines 8 shiny cores 01:35
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davidfetter mmm...shiny 01:39
dalek rrot: r44213 | dukeleto++ | trunk (2 files):
[t] Add a test file for the errorson opcode with one todo test
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rrot: r44214 | plobsing++ | failed to fetch changeset:
merge branch tt362
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dalek rrot: r44215 | whiteknight++ | trunk/docs/project/release_manager_guide.pod:
gerd++ has the 2.5 release, upon request
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rrot: r44216 | plobsing++ | branches/tt362:
branch has been merged into trunk
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kthakore hi chromatic 02:31
chromatic hello 02:32
kthakore chromatic: Is NCI still volatile?
japhb I'm baaaaaaack ...
kthakore hi japhb 02:33
Whiteknight kthakore, what do you mean "volatile"?
dalek TT #362 closed by plobsing++: optimize freeze_size
japhb kthakore: It's like talking with to the same person on two different conference calls at the same time. ;-) 02:34
plobsing, I have just managed to get one of my two broken computers back to (seemingly) working order. Need to update parrot and see if I can build it with the new OS install ... 02:35
plobsing, then I will try your opengl branch.
kthakore Whiteknight: well I was wondering what if NCI was going to change once this ticket is donetrac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1192
plobsing japhb: too late, it's merged. 02:36
japhb whaaaa?
Well, I guess I will check trunk then. :-/
plobsing lucky I got it merged when I did too, it's becoming harder and harder these days
kthakore Whiteknight: SDL needs a good way to implement threaded callbacks
japhb plobsing, lots of core churn in the last couple weeks? 02:37
plobsing seems so. tt362 branch (fairly contained) took an hour 02:38
japhb watches page after page of filenames scroll by in svn update
Whiteknight threads and calbacs are immature and need work
japhb I guess so ...
Whiteknight pmc_func_cleanup branch modified most .c and .pmc files
japhb kthakore, Whiteknight is understating things. Unless things are a lot better than they were in December, threaded callbacks will be quite painful. 02:39
kthakore japhb: ol 02:40
ok
japhb: if I conitinue hacking SDL now with current NCI and no callbacks
japhb: when NCI is changed to add threaded callbacks will my code break?
or has the NCI standard been decided on ? 02:41
Whiteknight standard needs major redesign 02:42
kthakore oooh kay
Whiteknight consider it volatile
kthakore hehhe
perfect
plobsing kthakore: that stuff generally falls under deprecation policy, so you'll have a couple months notice
kthakore plobsing: that would be awesome!!
pmichaud it's not already deprecated? ;-)
japhb I think plobsing has a more recent view on it, but I'd say that NCI is going to get overhauled in the medium term. Near term work is valuable, though. We need to make sure we understand the edges of our problem space so that the overhaul is designed better.
kthakore pmichaud: guess not
japhb: that makes sense 02:43
japhb: I will be rewriting SDL NCI again in modular format
japhb: guess I can just fix up stuff till NCI overhaul
then do redesign on that
japhb Oh, pmichaud: belated congrats on the rakudo ng release!
kthakore my plan is to just get all examples working
Whiteknight kthakore, raise the issue on the list and we can start the redesign process
kthakore Whiteknight: I need to give you guys some code to have weights to my issue 02:44
japhb Also, there was an NCI issues page on the wiki
let's see if I can find it again ...
kthakore Whiteknight: I will work on it
pmichaud japhb: thanks!
kthakore japhb: trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/NCITasklist
japhb: my fave page on that wiki
pmichaud japhb: I really have to credit the whole rakudo team, though -- it's been an impressive bit of work by many parties.
kthakore ;)
japhb kthakore, ah, way ahead of me. :-)
pmichaud: quite!
kthakore japhb: need to be as I am in for a ride ;) 02:45
Whiteknight: plobsing thanks that gives me some idea of how to do this
pmichaud japhb: And Parrot has been equally helpful -- we got a very quick bug fix release made yesterday to help out with Rakudo.
japhb yeah, saw that as I was catching up on my email. 02:46
Was that the first time Parrot has done a point release like that?
erg, I can't even successfully *clean* my parrot checkout. Time to start with a fresh one. 02:49
chromatic That was the first point release. 02:50
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kid51 surfaces after several hours doing CPAN stuff 03:16
kid51 notices that it looks like every single source code file was touched in last 24 hours!
Big merge(s)??
pmichaud we added miscellaneous trailing whitespace to every file. 03:18
dukeleto chromatic: no, not the first point release. there was 0.8.1 and 0.9.1 and a few before that
kid51 Well, *that* will really help get Rakudo* out the door!
pmichaud It looks harmless, but if you hold it up to the light and reverse the bits you can see "Perl is Dead" in the shadows.
dukeleto is getting all the historical parrots compiled for benchmarking 03:19
pmichaud dukeleto: those point releases meant something different.
kid51 pmichaud: So, speaking of Rakudo*, are we on track?
japhb dukeleto, during that era, point releases were not ... what pmichaud said
dukeleto pmichaud: touche
pmichaud kid51: we're a couple of weeks behind where I had planned to be at this point (largely due to external factors), but we had put in a large buffer at the end of the development period for contingencies and so I think we're still on track. 03:20
japhb waddya mean, my platform doesn't support OpenGL ...?
sigh,
japhb back to the coal mines
pmichaud kid51: and this week we've seen amazing progress in the new branch. We went from under 3000 to over 25000 passing tests in the course of a little more than a week.
chromatic I've tried to probe for OpenGL on many platforms. I'm not sure *any* platform supports OpenGL.
kid51 pmichaud: excellent!
purl plays air guitar
pmichaud (and the new branch is no longer a "branch", but is now the mainline development trunk) 03:21
chromatic pmichaud, and don't forget measurable speedups.
pmichaud "measurable" is an understatement
japhb oh? link to speedups info?
pmichaud yesterday morning it took me 32 minutes to run the spectests. by yesterday afternoon the spectests were running in under 10 minutes.
kid51 I'm hoping there's some sort of stock announcement/presentation about Rakudo* I could do at our May Perl Seminar NY meeting
japhb chromatic, is this because of the plobsing branch merge, or was that a more general problem?
pmichaud kid51: by May there certainly will be
chromatic Rakudo also runs more spectests than it did yesterday morning. 03:22
japhb pmichaud, wow, nice
chromatic japhb, I think this was all before the merge, if you mean tt362.
pmichaud my target date for Rakudo * is April 29.
that may fudge a few days to either side, but that's my target date.
kid51 It would be good if there some sort of "canned" slideshow that Perlmonger groups could present between release and YAPC.
chromatic 29 and not 22?
pmichaud 29.
There's a Rakudo compiler release on April 22
but Rakudo * is more than just the compiler.
kthakore runs back to something he understands
chromatic Okay. 03:23
pmichaud it's really more along the lines of a distribution, and I'd like it to actually have a separate release cycle from the compiler.
(a longer release cycle -- like 3 months to begin with)
japhb chromatic: no, I meant the refactor of call_list/misc.in. plobsing indicated he merged his topic branch for that already?
pmichaud this even goes to having separate release managers -- one release manager will focus on making regular compiler releases, the distribution release manager will focus on packging compiler and modules together. 03:24
and distributions are free to lag compiler releases as appropriate to meet stability goals
chromatic I think that one came after the 2.1.1 release too, japhb.
plobsing just after 03:25
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japhb plobsing, is trunk expected to show OpenGL supported during config? Or is that different now? 03:26
plobsing japhb: it should
I didn't poke the config too much
japhb hrmmm 03:27
Now I need to figure out if it is parrot or my newly "working" computer that is confused ....
plobsing is that the auto or gen steps?
japhb plobsing, auto. gen won't run if auto says no (well, that's the way it used to be, at least) 03:28
plobsing last commit to auto was r42341 (november 2009)
japhb hrmm
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japhb plobsing, ah, looks like I'd forgotten to reinstall a package. OpenGL detected this time ... parrot still building, we'll see how that works out. 03:33
kid51 I guess pcc_reorder_results branch is still where it was 3 days ago: smolder.plusthree.com/app/projects/...ails/32288 03:40
trunk: PASS for make test, make buildtools_tests, make codetest
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japhb Yay! Parrot built with working OpenGL support. 03:43
plobsing japhb: have you actually tried the opengl examples? it doesn't get exercised much by the test suite 03:44
japhb s/much/at all/ ? 03:45
Yeah, I ran triangle.pir and shapes.pir
plobsing sweet
japhb Wouldn't have considered it working without both of those at a minimum. :-)
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dalek kudo/master: 71d8848 | (Solomon Foster)++ | src/core/RangeIter.pm:
Get RangeIter to handle the Str cases properly.
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kudo/master: abb98b4 | (Solomon Foster)++ | src/core/Any-list.pm:
Add proto for pick.
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yobert Hi, parrot folks. Anyone here feel like helping me figure out why I can't get parrot's javascript compiler to work? 04:29
pretty please
I've tracked it down to self.'add_parent'(parentclass, 'to'=>parrotclass) getting called in P6object.pir 04:35
I think that's the deprecated way to call add_parent?
or something
purl something is really wrong out there :)
cotto pmichaud, ping 06:22
too late, I guess 06:35
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dalek nxed: r419 | julian.notfound++ | trunk/examples/packfile.winxed:
dump bytecode as raw opcodes and put disassembly as an option in example
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purl it has been said that packfile is the only external symbol left that doesn't have a safe prefix.
Austin purl, history 09:59
purl history is more of a project docs item then a book item
mikehh All tests PASS (pre/post-config, make corevm/make coretest, smoke (#32291), fulltest) at r44216 - Ubuntu 9.10 amd64 (gcc with --optimize) 10:04
fperrad ping Austin 10:19
Austin Hello, fperrad
fperrad have you play with newer(pmc,pmc) variant ? 10:20
have you play with pir_pir option ?
Austin Not yet, no. Sorry. (In fact, I wasn't aware of the newer update. When did that go in?)
fperrad r44186 + r44202 10:21
Austin 19 hours ago. Man, you're fast. 10:25
dalek a: c91bc99 | fperrad++ | dynext/pmc/lua (11 files):
rename functions in PMC after the merge of branch pmc_func_cleanup
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rrot-mysql: r14 | julian.notfound++ | trunk/src/Mysql.pir:
fix deprecated signature and add one more lib name to search for
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tracwiki: v13 | Austin_Hastings++ | Migrating%20to%20NQPrx 11:05
tracwiki: Added note about integer indexing
tracwiki: trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/Migrati...ction=diff
Austin Grr. nqp-rx now coerces [indexes] into int register. 11:06
dalek rrot: r44217 | mikehh++ | trunk/t/codingstd/c_parens.t:
remove regex test for more than one space - the test requires at LEAST one space
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rrot: r44218 | mikehh++ | trunk/t/codingstd/c_parens.t:
forgot copyright
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bacek aloha 11:41
Austin Hola, bacek
mikehh hi bacek
bacek *incoming*
bacek hides
dalek rrot: r44219 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/string/primitives.c:
Use internal allocate.
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rrot: r44220 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/multidispatch.c:
Switch to GC allocation
rrot: r44221 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/frame_builder.c:
Switch to GC allocations
rrot: r44222 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/config/gen/platform/platform_interface.h:
Switch to internal allocations
rrot: r44223 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/tools/build/nativecall.pl:
Switch to GC allocations
rrot: r44224 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce (6 files):
Switch HOP to GC allocations
rrot: r44225 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/include/parrot/memory.h:
Add mem_internal_relloc_n_zeroed_typed macro
rrot: r44226 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/pmc (14 files):
Bulk update PMCs to use GC allocations
rrot: r44227 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src (12 files):
Bulk update various parts to use GC allocations
bacek Austin, last 2 commits special by your request :) 11:46
Austin Oh yeah?
Go me.
bacek "Bulk" commits :) 11:47
Austin Those are on a branch, no? 11:48
mikehh bacek: ready for testing? 11:49
bacek Austin, of course on branch
mikehh, not fully. But I expect a lot of codetest failures :)
And mostly all of them can be fixed in parallel 11:50
Austin Replace ::empty with .new ftw. 11:52
dalek lscript: 2e695ae | fperrad++ | dynext/ (7 files):
rename functions in PMC & Ops after the merge of branch pmc_func_cleanup
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rrot: r44228 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/gc/gc_ms.c:
Initialize initial "re"allocation with zeroes in GC MS to prevent epic failures due uninitialized memory.
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rrot: r44229 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/pmc/parrotinterpreter.pmc:
Switch ParrotInterpreter PMC to GC allocations
bacek mikehh, ping 12:18
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mikehh bacek: pong 12:23
bacek mikehh, can you quick test branch on something like g++/amd64?
at r44231
mikehh bacek: on it
bacek it passed make test on my box.
mikehh bacek: make corevm/make coretest, make world/make test PASS - Ubuntu 9.10 amd64 (g++ with --optimize) 12:33
bacek mikehh++ # Yay!
mikehh codetest has a few failures, manifest test PASS
dalek rrot: r44230 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/lib/Parrot/Ops2c/Utils.pm:
Fix compiler warning
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rrot: r44231 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/pmc/orderedhash.pmc:
Switch OrderedHash to auto_attrs
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mikehh bacek: you want me to fix the codetest failures or leave them for now? 12:37
bacek mikehh, if you have spare time - feel free to fix them 12:38
mikehh :-}
bacek Ah. Ignore c++ comments (if any). And src/gc/* at all 12:41
mikehh 'k 12:43
my normal test procedure starts with a make realclean, configure, make manifest_tests, make codetest, make corevm/make coretest, make world/make test then fulltest
at the moment make -j world fails the first time I run - that's after make -j corevm (ok) - I need to run more than once as it fails on ./pbc_merge (permission denied) which seems to be a dependancy problem 12:46
if I run make -j after make -j corevm it still fails the first time 12:47
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Whiteknight good morning #parrot 12:48
mikehh of course make world without the -j is ok
hi Whiteknight
this stasrted happening after the pbc_merge landed 12:50
Austin Good morning, Whiteknight. 12:51
bacek Whiteknight, which morning are you talking about? Yesterday's? 12:53
mikehh, ok. I'm switching to cleanup ItsMostCrappyCode (ever). Feel free to hack src/gc/* 12:57
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bacek Yay. Parrot/Rakudo is now officially in FreeBSD ports. (In Russian from maintainer) zag.ru/page/item_view/teper-Perl6-v...l#comments 13:04
dalek rrot: r44232 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/gc/gc_ms.c:
Call mem_sys_foo functions from GC MS to preserve trunk behavior.
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rrot: r44233 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/pmc/fixedintegerarray.pmc:
Finally switch FIA to GC allocations
rrot: r44234 | fperrad++ | trunk/tools/dev/mk_language_shell.pl:
[languages] update PMC template after r44190

s/pmc_type/Parrot_get_type_str/
rrot: r44235 | mikehh++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/include/parrot/memory.h:
unwrapped macro argument - type
NotFound And now, the magical moment you've been waiting for.... 13:09
nopaste "NotFound" at 213.96.228.50 pasted "Generate a working pbc from winxed using the packfile PMC" (48 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/19722
bacek glad to see that make_hello_pbc was actually useful :) 13:12
anyway, it's tomorrow already 13:13
Good night, folks!
NotFound Looks like we're starting to have all pieces required for a HLL based pir compiler ready. 13:14
Whiteknight NotFound: nice 13:17
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Whiteknight bacek: should it be Parrot_gc_mem_allocate_n_typed? 13:20
is it publicly visible?
malloc.c and malloc_trace.c were deprecated, right? 13:22
dalek kapo: cf6dfa9 | austin++ | (4 files):
Added 'super' and 'super_' keywords in Syntax.nqp
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kapo: 2fefcdd | austin++ | (15 files):
Added tests for Program.nqp. Added tests for new 'caller' sub in Parrot.nqp. Added 'Key' Pmc type, with 'new', '__dump'.
kapo: 67295c0 | austin++ | :
review: gitorious.org/kakapo/kakapo/commit/...7d956f9e44
kapo: 8411bac | austin++ | .gitignore:
Updated .gitignore in kakapo root.
rrot: r44236 | mikehh++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/include/parrot/memory.h:
there should be at least one space between a C keyword and any subsequent open parenthesis
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rrot: r44237 | mikehh++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/gc/api.c:
correct C function docs
rrot: r44238 | mikehh++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/gc/alloc_memory.c:
fix Correctly indented preprocessor directives
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rrot: r44239 | mikehh++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/gc/api.c:
fix ASSERT_ARGS
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dalek rrot: r44240 | mikehh++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/gc/gc_ms.c:
fix ASSERT_ARGS
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rrot: r44241 | mikehh++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/gc/gc_private.h:
one space required at the moment - fixing
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Whiteknight urg, the Timer PMC is really really b0rked 14:07
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Whiteknight I can't even really figure out how this is supposed to work 14:14
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pmichaud cotto: pong 14:42
(branch review is on my list as soon as I'm done with grant reviews :)
dalek rrot: r44242 | mikehh++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/include/parrot/memory.h:
fix unwrapped macro argument
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Austin pmichaud: Is there a heredoc for nqprx? 14:56
pmichaud Austin: not yet. one can do some fancy-ish things with quotes, however. 14:58
my @heredoc := pir::split( "\\n", q{{{
This is a heredoc
until
we
get to
}}} );
Austin Works for me. Thanks.
Is that q{{{ a single-quote or double-quote form? 14:59
pmichaud and, of course, one can do qq for variable interpolation in the heredoc, etc.
Austin Perfect.
purl it has been said that perfect is the enemy of good enough.
mikehh msg bacek - 15:03
purl Message for bacek stored.
mikehh sys_mem_reduce branch:
t/examples/shootout.t - Failed test 'examples/shootout/nsieve-bits.pir' - results wrong (less than required)
t/benchmark/benchmarks.t - Failed test 'examples/benchmarks/freeze.pasm' with Segmentation fault
and one c++ comment in src/pmc/fixedbooleanarray.pmc
all other tests PASS (pre/post-config, make corevm/make coretest, smoke (#32298), fulltest) at r44242 - Ubuntu 9.10 amd64 (g++ with --optimize)
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dalek kudo/master: 8003298 | pmichaud++ | docs/spectest-progress.csv:
spectest-progress.csv update: 195 files, 24223 (67.8% of 35730) pass, 0 fail
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kthakore hi there 16:07
I get a fail in parrot trunk of t/compilers/pge/03-optable.t
none of the tests run
how do I run it verbose? 16:08
NotFound kthakore: ./parrot t/compilers/pge/03-optable.t 16:14
kthakore ok thanks
PackFile_unpack: This Parrot cannot read bytecode files with version 5.3.
Parrot VM: Can't unpack packfile ./compilers/pge/PGE.pbc.
wth?
purl well, wth is Flavour?
kthakore clean? 16:15
purl clean is fine, just don't fucking hide every goddamn thing in sight, especially the goddamn soap.
kthakore huh?
yay!
worked
NotFound: thanks man
MikHel Is there an explanation somewhere of the new grammar created by create_language.pl ? It is no more grammar.pg but has become Grammar.pm and though compact, it is obscure! 16:19
dalek kudo/master: ec47f33 | (Solomon Foster)++ | docs/spectest-progress.csv:
Delete duplicate line for 2010-02-18.
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Coke pmichaud: you might want to make --gen-parrot rm the local parrot directory and do a fresh checkout. 16:34
msg pmichaud: you might want to make --gen-parrot rm the local parrot directory and do a fresh checkout.
purl Message for pmichaud stored.
dalek nxed: r420 | julian.notfound++ | trunk/examples/packfile.winxed:
show subs start in disassembly in packfile example
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mikehh All tests PASS (pre/post-config, make corevm/make coretest, smoke (#32299), fulltest) at r44242 - Ubuntu 9.10 amd64 (g++ with --optimize) 17:09
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dukeleto 'ello 17:40
kthakore dukeleto: hi 17:46
purl what's up, kthakore.
kthakore purl: go play in traffic 17:47
purl wanders off to dent some cars.
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dalek rrot: r44243 | plobsing++ | trunk (7 files):
move tools/build/nativecall.pir to tools/dev/nci_thunk_gen.pir
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rrot: r44244 | plobsing++ | trunk/tools/dev/nci_thunk_gen.pir:
convert from global variable use to :anon :immediate sub constant
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purl I don't know how to convert from global variable use to :anon :immediate sub constant.
Whiteknight chromatic: What's the status of TT #389? 19:11
branch is a month old
chromatic Only one problem remains: methods defined for core PMCs. 19:12
Only one test fails, but it's a doozy.
I think what we have to do is create a new PMCProxy for every core PMC during class_init part two and store methods there, then change all of the default PMC method lookup to look there instead of the namespace. 19:13
Every time I do that, though, KAPOW.
If you want to poke at it be my guest. 19:14
Whiteknight I dont think I have a real good understanding of the issue right now 19:23
NotFound chromatic: core pmc initialization may have race conditions. Maybe you are trying to create a proxy before the proxy pmc is initialized. 19:27
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Whiteknight May I ask why we do a two-stage initialization of types? 19:31
NotFound Whiteknight: if not, they will be lots more of race conditions. 19:32
Austin Whiteknight: Because some types use other types.
Internally, type A uses a hash, but hash used type B, which has an array of ...
NotFound I even thought about adding a third during the auto_attrs branch 19:33
Austin So you init them "a little", then go back and finish
Whiteknight We're talking about class_init, not VTABLE_init though
Austin Types is types.
Classes keep hashes, arrays, etc. 19:34
Whiteknight meh, I'll just take your word for it. 19:35
Austin It's why I wrote Kakapo.
The same problem appears at the HLL level
(With the same 'meh' solution...)
chromatic NotFound, that's part of the problem. Stage two helped. Some. 19:37
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Whiteknight is there any reason why ParrotInterpreter.pmc and ParrotThread.pmc register NCI methods manually in their class_inits? 19:41
chromatic Not sure.
Whiteknight should't those use METHOD syntax?
NotFound Whiteknight: I think METHOD initialization uses some PMCs 19:42
Whiteknight will try a quick patch
plobsing NotFound: I was under the impression it made use of NCI pmcs in raw mode. 19:43
dalek rrot: r44245 | plobsing++ | trunk (2 files):
add makefile rules to turn tools/dev/nci_thunk_gen.pir into parrot_nci_thunk_gen using pbc_to_exe
NotFound plobsing: the methods themselves, but the initialization process can use more. 19:45
Whiteknight plobsing: what's the difference?
purl i think the difference is not enough to make the US the only super power.
plobsing Whiteknight: normally, methods handle their own PCC. register_nci_method uses a thunk. 19:46
Whiteknight ok
plobsing but thunks are loaded lazily, so it skirts some race condition issues 19:47
Whiteknight I'm still trying a patch now. If patch works, good. If not, I'll add docs 19:50
Austin purl, no, the difference is Epsilon, a number that gets closer to zero the longer you think about it. 19:51
purl okay, Austin.
Whiteknight so for me Epsilon is about a million, since I don't think about it at all 19:56
Austin I didn't say it got larger if you didn't think about it.
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plobsing purl, eps? 19:57
purl eps is probably under trunk/misc
Whiteknight okay, all tests pass if I replace those manually-defined methods with METHODs 19:58
so I'm cleaning up and committing that fix
Austin raps, "Superman had come to town, to see who he could rock..."
dalek rrot: r44246 | plobsing++ | trunk/MANIFEST.SKIP:
mk_manifest_and_skip
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purl it has been said that mk_manifest_and_skip is the canonical mechanism for (re)generating MANIFEST
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Whiteknight done. 20:07
so much code makes me so unhappy 20:08
Austin Don't be unhappy, Andrew. The sun is shining. It's not gonna snow for at least two more days. It's beautiful out. 20:10
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Austin We're somewhere in track #12, dude. www.amazon.com/Original-Seasons-Dev...B00000I7JM 20:15
dalek rrot: r44247 | whiteknight++ | trunk/src/pmc (2 files):
cleanup some EXTREMELY old syntax from ParrotInterpreter and ParrotThread to create METHODs. Use the preferred syntax for creating methods instead. all tests pass with this.
20:17
Whiteknight Austin: yeah, the swamp of muddy trampled grass and melting snow outside my building is quite the scene 20:25
vanessa Mae did a great rendition of classical gas 20:26
dalek rrot: r44248 | plobsing++ | trunk (2 files):
install parrot_nci_thunk_gen
20:33
Austin Hey, whiteknight 20:35
purl hmmm... whiteknight is mailto:wknight8111@gmail.com or the grand master funk or wknight8111.blogspot.com/
Whiteknight ?
Austin I'm getting this error: Parrot VM: PANIC: I is an unknown signature type. 20:36
Trying (finally) to call getpid.
Whiteknight weird
Austin It follows up with "CAN_BUILD_CALL_FRAMES is disabled ..."
Whiteknight nopaste your code?
Austin Does that mean I can't call getpid at all, or I'm using the wrong signature?
my &getpid := pir::dlfunc__PPSS(pir::null__P(), 'getpid', 'I'); 20:37
nopaste "Austin" at 68.37.46.53 pasted "Error output (calling getpid)" (21 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/19724 20:38
plobsing Austin: add a line "I\\n" to src/nci/extra_thunks.nci, run tools/dev/mk_nci_thunks.pl (requires a built parrot), and then remake parrot 20:41
Whiteknight try "i"
plobsing or do what Whiteknight++ said 20:42
Austin whiteknight++
plobsing whichever you think is easier ;-)
Austin Size *does* matter!
Whiteknight plobsing: we REALLY need a dynamic frame builder, and we REALLY need to convert over to using better signature strings
plobsing Whiteknight: working on it... slowly 20:43
Austin Yeah. What's this "I" business, anyway? What's wrong with (int) ?
plobsing Austin: it's easier to parse because every type is the same length
its just a loop { switch (c) } over the string
Austin :)
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plobsing I would prefer using structs or something similar instead of parsing strings. 20:44
Whiteknight plobsing: I would really like to try to use PCC-style strings for it
Austin Add a little "while (!isspace(*++p)); while (isspace(*++p));" and you're parsing c.
Whiteknight Capital letters are types, lowercase letters and numbers are modifiers
Austin "int int num str" 20:45
plobsing Whiteknight: that is a good idea, it is a little more complicated to work with though
Austin: "long double" <- what's that? 20:46
Austin long_double
Whiteknight "Fl"
plobsing I really don't like hand rolling parsers in C. If you want to change the syntax, go ahead and write it. 20:47
Austin :)
plobsing bonus points: you can skirt the dep policy if you make your signatures distinguishable from old-style signatures 20:48
eg by adding a '#' at the front or something like that
Austin laugh 20:49
The deprecation policy.
purl i heard the deprecation policy was a major pain in the kiester.
NotFound Austin: I said you 'i' when talked about that.
Austin NotFound: And clearly I didn't listen.
Whiteknight I seriously dislike the deprecation policy
Austin I was probably tainted by the NQP signature mechanism. 20:50
NotFound Austin: hard to distinguish in the middle of discussion.
Austin Hey, do we have a file-handle pmc type that will store into a string? 20:51
plobsing Austin: I beleive StringHandle does that
NotFound Are you talking about dlfunc parameter syntax?
Austin plobsing++ 20:52
NotFound: Yes, but not for the filehandle pmc
NotFound A simple idea is to write a parser for whatever syntax you like that generates what current NCI understand, and diagnose problems. 20:53
plobsing NotFound: one of the problems with the current NCI signatures is that we're out of meaningful characters. 20:54
and we want to add more types
NotFound Then use that parser indepently, or insert into the program.
plobsing: yes, but that way allows easy experimentation.
Whiteknight plobsing: all the more reason to use the types+modifers synax 20:55
fperrad msg darbelo since r44204, distutils supports non group pmc, so you could write : $P2['gdbmhash'] = 'src/pmc/gdbmhash.pmc' 20:57
purl Message for darbelo stored.
Whiteknight we can't just parse the pure-C defs from the .h files, since people will use typedefs and macros and shit there 20:58
hell, parrot does it
and if we have to write signatures out manually, we may as well use something shorter than a pseudo-C
NotFound Whiteknight: we can use a pseudo-c, and a tool that write the sigantures for us. 20:59
Whiteknight NotFound: but thats a lot of effort for little gain 21:00
we can treat all pointers as opaque, so we only need one character to represent them all
NotFound Whiteknight: I prrefer to write that code than losing hours checking if the docs are to date.
Whiteknight then we really only need 8-, 16-, 32-, 64-bit integers, 32-, 64-, and 128-bit floating points 21:01
NotFound: The upper-levels don't matter. What I care about are the signature strings used internally
any tools you use to make life easier do not matter for the internal implementation 21:02
plobsing Whiteknight: I've added a "what needs to happen" section to NCITaskList under the signature change section. 21:03
s/happen/be done/
NotFound Whiteknight: but the availability of tools put less pressure in make the internals human-readable.
Whiteknight purl msg chromatic howabout a Hash* in the VTABLE structure to hold methods. That way we can store them in the second initialization pass as soon as they are created. Copyin/merging the hashes can facilitate inheritance. This way we don't need to create PMCProxies too early. 21:04
purl Message for chromatic stored.
Whiteknight NotFound: I'm not arguing against it, but I'm not going to spend any of my time writing it
NotFound Whiteknight: we can treat pointers as opque to make a call, but to prepare the argments and cook the return values we need more information. 21:05
Whiteknight NotFound: Not sure what you mean by that. All pointers can be gotten from PMCs using get_pointer. Most will use ManagedStruct or UnmanagedStruct 21:06
dalek rrot: r44249 | fperrad++ | trunk/include/parrot/pmc.h:
allows compatibility between before/after r44190
NotFound Whiteknight: C strings, mainly.
dalek tracwiki: v3 | Austin_Hastings++ | Parrot%20Dictionary
tracwiki: trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/Parrot%...ction=diff
tracwiki: v7 | plobsing++ | NCITasklist
tracwiki: trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/NCITask...ction=diff
Whiteknight NotFound: C strings can be gotten from STRINGs easily 21:07
NotFound Whiteknight: yes, if you have that info.
fperrad msg darbelo I'm the initial author of digest dynpmcs, a Lua library uses them (github.com/fperrad/lua-batteries/bl.../md5.pir), and today I create github.com/fperrad/digest-dynpmcs. So I think your gitorious.org/digest-dynpmcs/digest-dynpmcs becomes useless.
purl Message for darbelo stored.
Whiteknight fperrad: darbelo was planning a rewrite and feature expansion, so it might be a nice fork 21:08
plobsing Whiteknight: there's also the cases of pass by ref types, with which it makes sense to use boxed Floats/Ints
Whiteknight: and that could be extended to allow for wider arguments than NUMVAL or INTVALS using bignums 21:09
NotFound And there is a point that current NCI doesn't address: who owns the memory.
Whiteknight plobsing: again, all get_pointer access. We would just need to make sure Float and Integer provide the correct VTABLEs 21:10
plobsing NotFound: although we're not very explicit about it, it looks like NCI expects *parrot* to own the memory.
Whiteknight For other cases, there is UnmanagedStruct 21:11
NotFound plobsing: or just doesn't care to free it in some cases.
plobsing NotFound: where is it not freeing? 21:12
NotFound plobsing: call a function that returns a c string that you are supposed to free.
If you are couragoues eough, look a Xlib reference X-) 21:13
plobsing NotFound: free() is a pointer operation. If you are expected to free something, it should be treated as a pointer. 21:15
So maybe return it as a "p" type, copy to STRING * yourself and then free it.
NotFound plobsing: tell that to the authrs of lots of packages.
plobsing: surely there are ways, but the information about what to do in each cases must be passed to nci. 21:16
bacek Morning
NotFound In some cases, the function to use to free must be also NCI'ed 21:17
plobsing NotFound: of course. The N in NCI doesn't stand for nostradamus
NotFound plobsing: then we cant treat all pointers as opaque, qed. 21:18
An interesting problem: How can I set a pobj private flag from pir? 21:23
dalek rrot: r44250 | plobsing++ | trunk/config/gen/makefiles/root.in:
use parrot_nci_thunk_gen fakecutable in stead of tools/dev/nci_thunk_gen.pir to generate opengl thunks
NotFound I need that to set the :main flag in a sub.
Austin I'd love to know the answer to that, NotFound. 21:24
Of course, I work around it by compiling on the fly.
bacek NotFound, check make_hello_pbc. You can provide "comp_flags" for newly created Sub. 21:26
NotFound bacek: that was my idea, but after tests and looking at parrot source the conclusion is that :main doesn't live here. 21:27
bacek NotFound, it is afaik.
Problem is PBC_FOO flags aren't exposed to PIR. 21:28
include/parrot/packfile.h, line 349
nope 21:29
include/parrot/sub.h
NotFound bacek: those are the fixup actions 21:30
bacek sub_flags_enum
NotFound bacek: yes, the enum is clear, but his usage is not. 21:33
bacek: src/packfile.c 932 21:34
The comp_flags are masked, and some other values are checked in the pobj private flags 21:35
bacek bah... SUB_COMP_FLAG_MASK is evil... 21:36
404 -> 110010100b 21:37
NotFound The simpler solution will be to stop using the pobj private flags, and put all in the comp_flags
bacek which is TAILCALL | PF_IMMIDIATE | flag_9 | flag_10 21:38
I think only PF_IMMIDIATE make sense... 21:39
Or may be I wrong and we have to delete this hairy SUB_COMP_FLAGs 21:40
NotFound There are not enough private flags for all needs, I think. 21:41
bacek Indeed
OTOH, if you want to implement HLL PIR compiler you don't have to use SUB_COMP_FLAGS
you need just sub_flags_enum for generated Sub
NotFound bacek: I don't cheked all I may need, I'm just trying to be able to mark main for a now. 21:43
bacek
.oO( How many branches in last couple of weeks were merged back??? )
NotFound, :main is SUB_FLAG_PF_MAIN
which is in sub_flags_enum
Just expose it into PIR and try :) 21:44
NotFound bacek: yes, I just need the way to set that in the private flags.
I can put a method in the packfile constant table PMC, but I prefer to avoid too much blackmagic. 21:45
Well, let's do it that way and mark as experimental. 21:47
bacek: it works :) 22:01
bacek NotFound, of course! :) 22:02
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NotFound Well, I don't like it very much, but is worse being unable to do it ;) 22:02
bacek: And I can blame you if someone gets upset }:) 22:03
bacek NotFound, no way! I just created Packfile PMCs. Everything else is not my fault. 22:04
:)
NotFound You tempted me to do it! 22:05
bacek <NotFound> I need that to set the :main flag in a sub. 22:06
You asked for it! :)
NotFound I suppose that TT #451 is enough, and I don't need to put that method explicitly in DEPRECATED.pod
bacek: we'll discuss it in court ;) 22:07
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bacek NotFound, in theory :) 22:09
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dalek rrot: r44251 | fperrad++ | trunk/runtime/parrot/library/Configure/genfile.pir:
[genfile] add a verbose option
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rrot: r44252 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce (236 files):
Bring branch up-to-date with trunk.

  \tconfig/gen/crypto/digest_pmc.in
  \tsrc/pmc/orderedhash.pmc
  \tsrc/runcore/profiling.c
  \ttools/build/nativecall.pl
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purl tools/build/nativecall.pl is probably supposed to be run manually, right?
rrot: r44253 | NotFound++ | trunk/src/pmc/packfileconstanttable.pmc:
[pmc] experimental method set_main in PackfileConstantTable
ttbot Parrot trunk/ r44253 cygwin-thread-multi-64int make error tt.ro.vutbr.cz/file/cmdout/206153.txt ( tt.ro.vutbr.cz//buildstatus/pr-Parrot/rp-trunk/ ) 22:51
bacek NotFound, you broke the build! 22:58
NotFound It's your... eh... not yet
Looks completely unrelated to my chnage :? 23:01
mikehh bacek: i thought tools/build/nativecall.pl was replaced by .pir
dalek rrot: r44254 | mikehh++ | trunk/src/pmc/parrotinterpreter.pmc:
fix pod syntax
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bacek mikehh, yes.
NotFound, no way! It's your fingerprints in TapTinder! :)
rrot: r44255 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce (3 files):
Fix param guards.
rrot: r44256 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/pbc_merge.c:
One more GC allocation
rrot: r44257 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce (3 files):
Rerun headerizer
rrot: r44258 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/compilers/imcc (16 files):
Switch IMCC to GC allocations
bacek mikehh, ok. Branch is ready for testing. 23:04
Few more polishing touches, but no big changes 23:05
mikehh bacek: will give it a go as soon as I have finished testing trunk
bacek mikehh, ok, thanks 23:06
mikehh All tests PASS (pre/post-config, make corevm/make coretest, smoke (#32302), fulltest) at r44254 - Ubuntu 9.10 amd64 (gcc with --optimize) 23:13
bacek mikehh, 23:16
purl rumour has it mikehh, is that patch associated with a ticket
bacek # Failed test 'src/pbc_merge.c has correct dependencies (Makefile: line 1491).'
# at tools/dev/checkdepend.pl line 270.
# +---+-------------------------------------+---+-------------------------------+
# | Ln|Got | Ln|Expected |
# +---+-------------------------------------+---+-------------------------------+
# | 57|include/parrot/vtables.h | 57|include/parrot/vtables.h |
# | 58|include/parrot/warnings.h | 58|include/parrot/warnings.h |
# | 59|include/pmc/pmc_callcontext.h | 59|include/pmc/pmc_callcontext.h |
# * 60|include/pmc/pmc_parrotinterpreter.h * | |
# | 61|include/pmc/pmc_sub.h | 60|include/pmc/pmc_sub.h |
# +---+-------------------------------------+---+-------------------------------+
not ok 119 - src/platform.c has correct dependencies (Makefile: line 1270).
this is probably why parallel build failing
mikehh bacek: that sounds right 23:17
or views :-}
dalek rrot: r44259 | mikehh++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/MANIFEST.SKIP:
regenerate MANIFEST.SKIP
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ttbot Parrot trunk/ r44254 cygwin-thread-multi-64int make error tt.ro.vutbr.cz/file/cmdout/206221.txt ( tt.ro.vutbr.cz//buildstatus/pr-Parrot/rp-trunk/ ) 23:22
dalek nxed: r421 | julian.notfound++ | trunk/examples/wpack.winxed:
example of pbc generation using packfile PMCs
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bacek mikehh, pod_syntax failure already fixed in trunk (parrotinterpeter.pmc). I'll just sync with trunk again. 23:33
dalek rrot: r44260 | bacek++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/pmc/fixedbooleanarray.pmc:
Remove FIXME comment.
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mikehh bacek: I'll fix it again
rrot: r44261 | mikehh++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce (14 files):
set svn properties
bacek mikehh, ok.
mikehh bacek: looks good - running smoke and fulltest now 23:51
bacek mikehh, ok! 23:52
dalek rrot: r44262 | mikehh++ | branches/sys_mem_reduce/src/pmc/parrotinterpreter.pmc:
fix pod syntax
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