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dalek rrot: r48058 | coke++ | branches/html_cleanup/docs/index/tools.json:
fix malformed JSON spotted by kid51++
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nopaste "kid51" at 192.168.1.3 pasted "Patch to aid in diagnosing JSON formatting problems" (27 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/21898 00:11
kid51 Coke: please evaluate that patch (which is what I used to spot error)
The patch enabled me to figure out *which* .json problem had the problem. 00:31
Err: The patch enabled me to figure out *which* .json file had the problem. 00:32
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Coke kid51_at_dinner: looks good, but I'd remove the dump of the entire contents. 00:45
otherwise, go ahead and apply that, thanks.
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dalek kudo: b30f2a6 | (Matthew (lue))++ | src/ (2 files):
Begin implementation of ::= binding.
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kudo: c59e59a | (Matthew (lue))++ | src/core/operators.pm:
Removal of Q:PIR block in := implementation.
kudo: 669c9cc | (Matthew (lue))++ | src/core/operators.pm:
Implementation of := binding.
kudo: a3d4b9e | pmichaud++ | src/core/operators.pm:
Add WHENCE code (originally from lue++, but patch didn't apply for some reason).
kudo: c70469a | pmichaud++ | src/core/operators.pm:
A bound variable needs to adopt the 'rw' state of the thing it's bound to.
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dalek rrot: r48059 | jkeenan++ | branches/html_cleanup/tools/docs/make_html_docs.pl:
In case of failure to decode JSON, identify which .json file failed.
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kid51 r48059 qualifies as my very first Perl 5.12 code "in production"! 02:31
In the rest of Parrot, we're confined to 5.8.something.
At $job, 5.8.something.
In toolchain parsexs project, 5.6!
tcurtis Why do we get to use 5.12 in make_html_docs? 02:32
sorear 5.8.2 doesn't even build with modern gcc
kid51 So that patch to tools/docs/make_html_docs.pl, which calls 'use 5.12.0', is my first more-than-5.8 code accepted to run someplace other than my own homedirs!
tcurtis: Umm, because Coke says so? 02:33
kid51 ducks
tcurtis kid51: good enough for me. 02:34
kid51 But, in reality, it's mainly the release manager who has to run 'make html'. It's mainly for docs.parrot.org, where we can do what we want without worrying about backwards compatibility.
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kid51 Not being able to use anything >5.8 'in production' means that I really have only a vague idea of the new syntax in 5.10 and 5.12 ... 02:36
... other than 'say' (and that only because I used to maintain Perl6::Say ;-) ) 02:37
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dalek kudo: 1086ff8 | moritz++ | t/spectest.data:
we pass 6 more test files
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rrot: r48060 | mikehh++ | branches/html_cleanup/tools/docs/make_html_docs.pl:
perlcritic does not like code before use warnings
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dalek rrot: r48061 | mikehh++ | branches/html_cleanup/tools/docs/make_html_docs.pl:
fix copyright and remove unnecessary use strict (use 5.12.0 incorporates this)
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cotto bacek, ping 08:51
fun fact: one of the failing tests in the linscan branch doesn't actually use any registers 08:52
yet somehow the generated pbc is different 08:53
fun times
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sorear pbc is horribly, horribly underconstrained 09:14
cotto I think it's actually my fault. 09:21
the vanilla allocator allocates one register where mine does 0
bacek_at_work cotto, (barely here) pong 09:31
cotto What's !SUB ? 09:32
cotto is also barely here 09:33
bacek_at_work cotto, PMC register for non-constant sub calls
e.g. 'foo()' when 'foo' isn't in same PIR file
'foo()' translated to '$!SUB = find_sub_not_null "foo"; $!SUB()' 09:34
cotto ok. My allocator isn't giving it a register because it doesn't appear to have a range.
sounds like it'll need a special case
or something else 09:35
bacek_at_work yeah... 09:36
cotto that gives me my next target once I've slept
bacek_at_work We do need two-pass Sub processing.
cotto yes
or were you referring to something apart from the allocator?
bacek_at_work Not yet. 09:37
But we can probably can use result of first pass for some optimizations
ETOOMANYCAN
cotto making it work is a good first target 09:38
sleep is a good zeroeth step
'night
bacek_at_work night
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mikehh Coke: you around? 11:39
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dalek kudo: 92a210d | pmichaud++ | docs/spectest-progress.csv:
spectest-progress.csv update: 513 files, 34010 (84.7% of 40163) pass, 12 fail
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dalek rrot: r48062 | coke++ | branches/html_cleanup/tools/docs/make_html_docs.pl:
Fix cut-and-paste-o copyright line.
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Coke ~~ 13:46
atrodo Good Morning Coke
mikehh hi Coke 13:47
Coke: re 48062, check PodToHtml.pm and HTMLPage.pm as well :-} 13:51
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mikehh Coke: how do you intend to set {RESOURCES_URL}, {NAV_BAR}, title etc 13:55
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mikehh got to go out for a bit - bbl 14:41
Coke mikehh: was going to tackle that this weekend. =-)
I realize it's just a braindead call to pod2html at this point. 14:42
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mikehh Coke: ok - been playing around with it a bit - work with you then 14:42
mikehh fresh out of milk and need coffee - bbl 14:43
Coke ok. I will not be offended if commits happen while I'm at DAYJOB, really I won't. a little coordination before is better if possible,but i'll understand if I'm too idle. =-) 14:44
mikehh: AIGH!
mikehh: aren't you on GMT?
mikehh Coke: BST = GMT + 1 14:45
Coke close enough. =-) 14:47
I've taken to saying "Eastern" for my time zone because I cannot be bothered to remember if it's EDT or EST.
dalek kudo: 1ef278d | moritz++ | t/spectest.data:
run two more test files
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tcurtis How do I tell distutils to add my build/ directory to the library path when running tests? 15:33
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Coke tcurtis: fperrad is the distutils guy. 16:04
tcurtis fperrad: ping. 16:05
fperrad pong tcurtis 16:07
tcurtis fperrad: I'm trying to use distutils to build my GSoC project now that I'm putting it in a separate repository, and I'm putting my build files in a build/ directory. How can I get distutils to add that directory to the library path when it runs tests? 16:11
fperrad tcurtis, with 'test_exec', you specify the executable + some options (like library path) 16:18
tcurtis, where is your new repository ? 16:19
cotto tcurtis, what's the advantage of moving your code to a separate repo?
Coke cotto: near as I can tell, because "bacek is lazy" 16:20
;)
tcurtis fperrad: thanks. github.com/ekiru/tree-optimization , but I haven't committed the distutils yet.
cotto The laziest approach seems like it'd be to leave it in svn, apart from having to work with svn. 16:21
Coke cotto: sorry. let me clarify:
"bacek is the wrong kind of lazy"
;)
mikehh Coke: We should have a few more devs lazy like bacek++ 16:22
tcurtis cotto: with it in a branch of parrot's svn, I have to merge trunk every-time there's a change in trunk that someone wants to use it with.
cotto e.g.? 16:23
purl e.g. is probably `exempli gratia', latin for `for example'
tcurtis For example, if there's a rakudo change that needs a later version of Parrot, moritz++ can't merge Rakudo HEAD into his branch until I merge parrot trunk into my branch. 16:24
cotto got it
that makes sense and does indeed preserve laziness
fperrad tcurtis, I don't known if parrot-nqp has an option for library path 16:25
another way, it's to build *.pbc in ./ instead of ./build/
tcurtis And I expect that just being able to use a normal parrot install with it instead of having to get a branch will make it simpler for other people to try it out. 16:26
moritz in retrospect we could have thought of starting it in a repo of its own from the start :-) 16:27
cotto hindsight?
purl it has been said that hindsight is 20-20, cotto...
moritz I mean it's clear that such a framework doesn't really need many parrot changes
cotto I was just fishing for that purl factiod 16:29
tcurtis fperrad: my question turns out to have been unnecessary. I accidentally left some of the pbcs out of inst_lib, and the tests run properly once I fix that. 16:45
fperrad: Actually, that turns out to be wrong. I had forgotten I'd installed it in the interim. 17:02
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dalek kudo: 8978801 | moritz++ | build/Makefile.in:
compile Safe.pm, and install the .pir version too
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tcurtis japhb++ for plumage automatically sudoing for install. 18:24
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cotto_work Does plumage support fancy stuff like installing the latest build of a package from a vcs repo? 18:36
and updating 18:37
tcurtis cotto_work: yes.
cotto_work shiny
I'll have to start using it.
tcurtis On a related note: 18:38
msg darbelo Can one of you, dukeleto, or japhb add my GSoC to plumage? The metadata is at github.com/ekiru/tree-optimization/...ation.json 18:39
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tcurtis msg dukeleto Can one of you, darbelo, or japhb add my GSoC to plumage? The metadata is at github.com/ekiru/tree-optimization/...ation.json 18:39
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tcurtis msg japhb Can one of you, darbelo, or dukeleto add my GSoC to plumage? The metadata is at github.com/ekiru/tree-optimization/...ation.json
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cotto_work That project is going to be so added.
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cotto_work anyone here familiar with Cyclone and its attempts to make C pointers safe? 19:05
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cotto_work2 cyclone.thelanguage.org/wiki/Cyclon...rogrammers 19:08
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dalek kudo: e58b166 | (Solomon Foster)++ | src/core/ (2 files):
Tweak Real.atan2 and Num.atan2 so they can handle $x's which are not of the
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japhb tcurtis, I'll do it. 19:32
tcurtis thanks, japhb.
msg darbelo japhb added my GSoC to plumage. Ignore my previous msg. 19:33
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tcurtis msg dukelete japhb added my GSoC to plumage. Ignore my previous msg.
purl Sorry, I've never seen dukelete before.
tcurtis msg dukeleto japhb added my GSoC to plumage. Ignore my previous msg.
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japhb pushed, enjoy! 19:35
particle where is the plumage metadata parser source? 19:36
japhb I'm wrapping the data_json Parrot language. 19:37
Lemme find the module
src/lib/Plumage/Metadata.nqp 19:38
Interestingly, data_json is used to parse string inputs, and Config::JSON is used for file inputs. 19:39
particle ah, thanks.
do you need both, or is that only a refactor away from correct?
japhb I honestly don't remember. It's been a long time since I touched that code. 19:41
May have been limitations of one or both modules at the time.
particle no worries
cotto_work cotto@cotto-desktop:/usr/src/parrot/plumage\\ 0 $ ./plumage help 19:43
I don't know how to 'help'!
tcurtis japhb: The link was for the html page to view it on github. The actual text file is at github.com/ekiru/tree-optimization/...ation.json
cotto_work: ./plumage usage 19:44
cotto_work sure
particle 'perhaps you meant usage' would be a nice addition there
japhb D'oh!
That's what I get for doing a wget without looking at it.
particle ha
japhb Sigh.
tcurtis That's what I get for not specifying what exactly I'm linking to. 19:45
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dalek rrot-plumage: de66330 | japhb++ | metadata/tree-optimization.json:
[METADATA] New project metadata tree-optimization.json; thanks tcurtis++
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japhb tcurtis, pushed again. 19:47
tcurtis japhb, thanks again. 19:48
japhb particle, re: 'perhaps you meant usage' ... one of the "after things Just Work" tasks (scheduled for Round 3 of the Grant Series That Didn't Happen) was to make a real help system for it. So I was "leaving space" for a proper help command. :-) 19:49
particle ah
well, maybe some one will beat you to a 'MooseX::App::Cmd' module in nqp 19:50
japhb Since it is seemingly unlikely that I will get to that bigger goal in the near future, you are free to make a stub help command as you suggest.
Have you a commitbit?
particle not sure 19:52
not sure i have a gitorious acct 19:53
japhb checks ... no
(No you don't have a commitbit yet, don't know about the acct)
Get one, and you can have one. ;-)
particle i don't see an acct in my pw manager, creating...
cotto_work I note a distinct lack of PIRATE in plumage. 19:55
"someone" may have to remedy that
japhb FEED ME METADATA ... NOMNOMNOMNOMNOM
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dalek rrot-plumage: bc7f887 | japhb++ | metadata/tree-optimization.json:
[METADATA] OK, let's try that again. This time minus the HTML wrapper. japhb--
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japhb You have the power! 19:58
particle i feel gitorious! 20:00
masak NotFound: ping 20:02
Coke (interestingly) ... please do not get me started. =-) 20:07
(git git.... gitorious, gitorious) 20:08
masak anyone see immediately why the following PIR segfaults at line 25? gist.github.com/469980 20:12
I get the segfault regardless of whether I use pio.'print'(s) or pio.'puts'(s) 20:16
cotto_work masak, is that the complete code?
masak cotto_work: along with ./perl6 -e 'my $binary_out_fh = open("foo", :w, :bin); $binary_out_fh.write("föö".encode("ISO-8859-1"))' and the rest of Rakudo, yes. 20:17
Tene masak: change it to pio.'print'('OMG HAI')
purl Tene: that doesn't look right
masak but this is the relevant part.
Tene: ok.
Tene and check if it still fails
I could imagine it segfaulting if there was something funny in s
also try: say s 20:18
masak: How do those fail (or not)? 20:22
masak still building.
still building your first suggestion :)
Tene bah
You need a faster build.
masak ok, segfault on pio.'print'('OMG HAI')
Tene I keep forgetting that my work laptop is a bit atypical. 20:23
masak maybe there's something wrong with pio, then.
Tene Then there's probably nothing funny in s.
Yeah.
Coke ah, that's not really a PIO object. 20:34
from #perl6 - it's a container that has a different pmc data pointer. they need to unbox it before calling it.
masak pio = deref_unless_object pio
jnthn++
Coke (that being a custom p6 op) 20:35
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cotto_work clock? 20:49
purl cotto_work: LAX: Fri 1:49pm PDT / CHI: Fri 3:49pm CDT / NYC: Fri 4:49pm EDT / LON: Fri 9:49pm BST / BER: Fri 10:49pm CEST / IND: Sat 2:19am IST / TOK: Sat 5:49am JST / SYD: Sat 6:49am EST /
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tcurtis How can I set something to PMCNULL in NQP? Do I have to use Q:PIR? 22:02
cotto_work my $p := pir::null__P 22:07
;
jnthn probably needs () 22:12
tcurtis Turned out that nulling it wasn't what I needed anyway. 22:13
cotto_work () isn't needed in that case 22:15
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dalek kudo: 692aa15 | masak++ | src/core/IO.pm:
[IO] implemented IO.read and IO.write

t/spec/S16-filehandles/io.t.		 22:43
kudo: 2d0a573 | masak++ | src/core/IO.pm:
[IO] added :$bin parameter to &open and .open

  'binary' to the .encoding method on the filehandle could actually have
been any non-'utf-8' string, since Parrot only has two modes right now.
tcurtis Ah, the joys of accidentally using PIR dereferencing syntax in NQP. 22:46
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tcurtis pmichaud: ping 23:19
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tcurtis pmichaud: Does the pirop<tailcall> PAST::Op work? 23:21
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