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| cotto | alester: it'd be nice if the imported comments from users who don't have github accounts were less anonymous, e.g. if body of the comment indicated the trac username. | 00:28 | |
| alester | OK | 00:29 | |
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| moderator | Parrot 3.10.0 "Apple Pi" | parrot.org | Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot | #parrotsketch meeting Tuesday 19:30 UTC | ||
| alester | Yeah, me oto | 00:41 | |
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| bacek_at_work | alester, ping | 01:14 | |
| benabik | ~~ | 01:18 | |
| bacek_at_work | alester, unping | 01:30 | |
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| whiteknight | good evening, #parrot | 01:48 | |
| dalek | rrot/load_language_refactor: 2c0d174 | Alekssasho++ | src/packfile/api.c: Update src/packfile/api.c |
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| rrot/load_language_refactor: 2bf306f | Sasho++ | / (2 files): Refactor and rename Parrot_load_language |
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| rrot/load_language_refactor: 9a764f7 | Whiteknight++ | / (2 files): Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/Alekssasho/parrot into load_language_refactor |
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| rrot/load_language_refactor: 55b9214 | Sasho++ | src/embed/api.c: change Parrot_pf_load_langugage in api.c |
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| rrot/load_language_refactor: 0745143 | Sasho++ | / (3 files): latest changes for Parrot_load_language |
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| rrot/load_language_refactor: 7c73f6c | Sasho++ | src/packfile/api.c: changes in Parrot_pf_load_language |
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| rrot/load_language_refactor: 4621948 | Sasho++ | src/packfile/api.c: some changes |
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| rrot/load_language_refactor: bf40847 | Sasho++ | src/packfile/api.c: fixed Parrot_pf_load_language |
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| rrot/load_language_refactor: 910982f | Whiteknight++ | / (5 files): Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/Alekssasho/parrot into load_language_refactor |
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| itor: dacf71a | NotFound++ | / (4 files): Focus control, a bunch of fixes and example of EditBox |
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| whiteknight | NotFound: ping | 02:15 | |
| NotFound | whiteknight: pong | ||
| whiteknight | NotFound: do you still have that example around of that Repl you were working on? | ||
| NotFound | Repl? | ||
| whiteknight | I thought you had an example last week you gist'd that was a REPL | 02:16 | |
| NotFound | Ah, the Read-Execute-.... Never remember that. | ||
| whiteknight | yeah, didn't you have a gist about it? | 02:18 | |
| NotFound | I think I just used nopaste. | ||
| Found! | |||
| whiteknight | NotFound Found NotFound's post? | 02:19 | |
| NotFound | whiteknight: gist.github.com/1421426 | 02:20 | |
| whiteknight | NotFound++ | 02:21 | |
| What does the "volatile" keyword do? | |||
| NotFound | whiteknight: outer var lexicals are loaded only at the start of the inner for speed. volatile forces always loading. | 02:23 | |
| Now that I think about it, this thing can also give a nice example for Guitor, one panel for redirected output and one EditBox for the commands. | 02:26 | ||
| whiteknight | nice | 02:29 | |
| NotFound | whiteknight: There is some shore example of green threads usage? | 02:32 | |
| short | |||
| dalek | itor: 893e754 | NotFound++ | examples/edit.winxed: resize the EditBox in example edit |
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| NotFound | AFK | ||
| dalek | sella: 33c1acc | Whiteknight++ | / (17 files): Merge branch 'master' of github.com:Whiteknight/Rosella |
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| sella: 3740ec9 | Whiteknight++ | src/unstable/repl/ (2 files): A few small Repl cleanups |
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| cotto | ~~ | 03:08 | |
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| dalek | kudo/nom: 3c862ba | moritz++ | src/core/Any.pm: fix &sort with a closure works around a multi dispatch limitation |
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| kudo/nom: 4c311bf | moritz++ | t/spectest.data: run a test file that had regressed on &sort with closure |
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| dalek | kudo/nom: 676b356 | moritz++ | src/core/Regex.pm: Regex.ACCEPTS for arrays and hashes |
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| whiteknight | good morning, #parrot | 12:59 | |
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| dalek | nxed: dfbf427 | NotFound++ | winxedst2.winxed: diagnose bad type in indexing |
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| whiteknight | NotFound++ # Just tried Guitor, very nice! | 16:01 | |
| I couldn't figure out how to run the graph example, but everything else looks very nice | |||
| NotFound | whiteknight: graph.winxed "sin(x)" "cos(x)" | 16:12 | |
| whiteknight | ah, okay | 16:13 | |
| NotFound | drag to zoom in, right-drag to zoom out. Also '+' and '-' | 16:14 | |
| whiteknight | ...very nice | 16:16 | |
| very very nice | |||
| NotFound | A beautiful way to show someone the log and polynomic big difference: graph.winxed "pow(ln(x), 23)" "pow(x, 2)" and zoom out a lot. | 16:17 | |
| Funny fact: this program is based on a Basic program for the Apple ][ circa 1980 | 16:21 | ||
| From the Spain's magazine "El Ordenador Personal" | 16:22 | ||
| whiteknight | nice | 16:25 | |
| NotFound | And all is done without a line of C, just NCI calls to standard libraries. Exemplifying parrot abilities in a very visual way :) | 16:29 | |
| whiteknight | yes | 16:39 | |
| well, there are lots of lines of C, just at a different layer of abstraction | 16:51 | ||
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| NotFound | whiteknight: yeah, bu you don't need a C compiler to install the modules, that's the big difference. | 16:59 | |
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| dalek | sella: 4ec1141 | Whiteknight++ | s (5 files): Flesh out some UUID-related utilities. UUIDs are going to be immutable, so set up the value in the constructor. Add some utilities to check a valid UUID, to get an empty one, etc |
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| sella: a5c1f0b | Whiteknight++ | src/unstable/lazy/GeneratorArray.winxed: Add in an outline for a generator array type. Not included in the build yet |
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| sella: 0c9b299 | Whiteknight++ | src/random/ (2 files): +docs for Random.UUID |
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| itor: 7fae03b | NotFound++ | / (3 files): Implement SetTransientFor - use it for a simple 'About' in example boxes |
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| dalek | itor: 9a691fc | NotFound++ | / (3 files): display width and height functions, use them in example boxes |
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| whiteknight | bleh, fiber isn't available at my new house | 18:20 | |
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| cotto | ~~ | 18:50 | |
| whiteknight | hello cott | 18:56 | |
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| and belated "hello" to dukeleto | |||
| moritz | hey, have you ever thought of starting a parrot advent calendar? | 18:58 | |
| cotto | moritz: interesting idea. | ||
| whiteknight | moritz: sort of, but I wouldn't want to steal your thunder | ||
| moritz | showing off cool features and projects, talking about development plans | ||
| whiteknight: I wouldn't worry about that. There's usually half a dozen advent calendars in the Perl community, and we don't seem to suffer from that | 18:59 | ||
| sorear | cool features and plans eh? | 19:00 | |
| dalek | itor: 5703efe | NotFound++ | src/Guitor.winxed: set registered window hash key type to int |
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| whiteknight | moritz: we're already days behind, and I'm not getting internet installed at the new house until Sunday | 19:04 | |
| I can try it out though. 25 days of fantastic parrot awesomness! | 19:05 | ||
| dalek | itor: 12fce5b | NotFound++ | / (2 files): use 'None' for destroyed windows instead of -1 |
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| moritz | whiteknight: don't feel obliged, 'twas just a quick idea. Maybe next year if it's too much work this year | 19:13 | |
| whiteknight | moritz: If there is one thing I like doing, it's stealing good ideas from the Rakudo folks | 19:31 | |
| maybe I'll offset by a few days and do a "25 days before new years" advent thingy | 19:32 | ||
| cotto | github.com/parrot/parrot/wiki/25-d...arrot-2011 | 19:35 | |
| whiteknight | I was planning to do a bunch of short vignettes on my blog. Do you have a better idea? | 19:37 | |
| cotto | whiteknight: I thought that'd be a simple way to farm it out so that one person isn't doing everything | ||
| whiteknight | oh, yeah, that's cool too | 19:39 | |
| whatevs | |||
| cotto | fill the page with topics, make it into a calendar, let people claim days/topics | ||
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| whiteknight | Okay, I'm Up to about 20 topics I could talk about | 20:04 | |
| of course, It's sort of heavy on Rosella | |||
| well, 6 of them are Rosella-related | 20:05 | ||
| I will probably trim one or two out | |||
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| whiteknight | I know what I should ask for from an intrepid GCI student: an implementation of a Rete engine | 20:20 | |
| actually, that might be a little bit too much even for some of these whiz kids | |||
| eventually I'm going to have to buckle down and write it myself | |||
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| Yuki`N | gci break | 21:19 | |
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| dalek | p: 0fce58c | jnthn++ | src/6model/reprs/CStruct.c: Fix a typo. |
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| p: a298ab3 | jnthn++ | / (3 files): Start to sketch out CArray representation. |
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| p: 721f08d | jnthn++ | tools/build/Makefile.in: Actually link in the CArray object file! |
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| p: ad94412 | jnthn++ | src/ops/nqp_dyncall.ops: Teach the call engine how to handle a CArray representation (though we can't do anything much useful with it yet). |
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| dukeleto | alester++ # ticket whisperer | 21:30 | |
| cotto | what happens when he whispers to them? | 21:31 | |
| alester | THEY DO MY BIDDING | ||
| cotto | alester++ | ||
| Yuki`N | heh. | ||
| cotto | time to see if ParrotQuotes got moved to the gh wiki | 21:32 | |
| Yuki`N | how many damn videolan tasks are there? | ||
| dukeleto | VLC have a task assembly line. | 21:42 | |
| dalek | rrot-math-primality: e5617f1 | Yuki`N++ | / (2 files): Add is_prime. Fix strange issue with is_small_prime and get_pmc_keyed. |
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| rrot-math-primality: 833921a | Yuki`N++ | / (2 files): Add tests/fix bugs in prime_count and (prev|next)_prime. |
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| rrot-math-primality: f60a1f6 | dukeleto++ | / (2 files): Merge pull request #4 from nol888/master Add prime_count and related functionality. |
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| Yuki`N | it's honestly frustrating. | 21:43 | |
| Here I am, actually doing diverse tasks | |||
| and the 4 above me just farm one type of task which basically becomes the same process over and over. | |||
| sorear | stop being so competitive | 21:44 | |
| Yuki`N | =3= | 21:45 | |
| I'm getting my 15 tasks and then sitting back and relaxing. | |||
| sorear wishes people wouldn't make up emoticons that nobody can understand | |||
| Coke | (v) (;,,;) (v) | ||
| . o O (More emoticons? Why not zoidberg?) | 21:46 | ||
| sorear | ...that's an emoticon? I thought it was J code | ||
| dukeleto | Yuki`N: twitter.com/#!/dukeleto/status/142...4055682048 | ||
| Yuki`N: people in the free/open source community see it for what it is. They are gaming the system, but they are not fooling anybody | 21:47 | ||
| Yuki`N | dukeleto, yeah, but it's just a for loop. :P | ||
| I wish I understood the paper | |||
| but I don't. | |||
| dukeleto | Yuki`N: so i would say just ignore it. Work on what interests you, and be happy. | ||
| Yuki`N: i think you would like the nacl bindings. I can turn that into multiple difficult tasks | 21:48 | ||
| Coke | we've been accused of gaming the GCI system before. | ||
| dukeleto | Coke: indeed. But the person was insane, so it is OK. | ||
| Yuki`N: i feel like i understand the paper, but that doesn't mean it is easy to implement | 21:59 | ||
| Yuki`N: i will try to implement it | |||
| Yuki`N | If you could just write some pseudocode, it might help me understand it as well. | ||
| dukeleto | Yuki`N: i like it. I will try to write out the algorithm in pseudocode. | 22:03 | |
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| Yuki`N | There are 6 pages of VideoLAN tasks | 22:31 | |
| dalek | p: b2d7aa2 | jnthn++ | tools/build/Makefile.in: Add missing deps. |
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| p: 945817d | jnthn++ | src/6model/reprs/CArray.c: Sketch out a bit more of CArray representation. |
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| Yuki`N | That's a good | ||
| 300 tasks. | |||
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| dalek | itor: 267583a | NotFound++ | src/Guitor (2 files): list properties |
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