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Parrot 4.1.0 "Black-headed Parrot" | parrot.org | Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot | #parrotsketch meeting Tuesday 19:30 UTC Set by moderator on 28 February 2012. |
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| whiteknight | good evening, #parrot | 00:05 | |
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| dukeleto | whiteknight: howdy | 01:22 | |
| whiteknight | hello dukeleto | ||
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| cotto | ~~ | 03:11 | |
| benabik | ~~ | 03:17 | |
| bacek_at_work | aloha, humans | 03:45 | |
| cotto | hio bacek_at_work | 03:48 | |
| aloha | (parrot/parrot) Issues opened : 722 (Properties related VTABLEs are deprecated) by bacek : github.com/parrot/parrot/issues/722 | ||
| bacek_at_work | cotto, hello | 03:50 | |
| cotto | bacek_at_work, for gh #722, how bit of a patch would rakudo and nqp need? | 04:05 | |
| bacek_at_work | cotto, none. No one overrides props VTABLEs. And changing of props ops are in #351 | 04:06 | |
| cotto | rakudo has at least one use of VTABLE_getprop (in src/binder/multimethod.c) | 04:07 | |
| so that'll need a patch before those vtable slots can go away | 04:08 | ||
| 6model does quite a bit more with it | |||
| benabik | nqp has a variety of uses of VTABLE_{get,set}prop. | 04:12 | |
| Would we just be removing the VTABLE in favor of non-overridable behavior? | |||
| cotto | my understanding is that the ops would stay and the vtable slots would go away | 04:13 | |
| so yes | 04:14 | ||
| benabik | We could #define the VTABLES to refer to the function instead for a transition period. | ||
| Or whatever. | 04:15 | ||
| bacek_at_work | yes. Idea is to provide non-overridable prop functions and get rid of vtables. Functionality will stay. | 04:33 | |
| benabik | Isn't that removing a layer of indirection? Isn't the solution _adding_ layers of indirection? ;-) | 04:36 | |
| cotto | Fine. We can throw in a couple extra pointer dereferences if it'll make you happy. | 04:37 | |
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| seme | hi gentleman... can anyone give me a hand understanding how to integrate PIR with the grammar files? It is used by pynie to handle the python indentation requirements but I've been experimenting with it and I don't think it is working | 11:45 | |
| I haven't been able to find much documentation or examples to show how this is used so perhaps if you could point me toward some I could try to understand it myself first :) | 11:46 | ||
| moritz | I remember running into the same kind of problem | 11:47 | |
| seme: are you using nqp-rx? | 11:48 | ||
| seme | well I'm trying to take the work done on pynie and puffin and fit it into the structure and form that the squaak language uses... pynie has several functions to handle the indent issues in pir and it looks like it calls those in the Grammar.pm file... such as <.indent_zero> | 11:49 | |
| it doesn't appear to be working though | |||
| I had to change it to {{ indent_zero }} synxtax just to get things to run/compile but it still doesn't appear to actually be calling the pir code | 11:50 | ||
| that may not have been the right thing to do | |||
| moritz | which grammar engine do pynie and puffin use? | 11:51 | |
| seme | not sure what you mean... Pynie::Grammar is PCT::Grammar and it is written in the parrot grammar engine, PGE, I think. | 11:52 | |
| is that what you mean? | |||
| moritz | yes | ||
| it means it doesn't use the newer NQP-rx or NQP, with which I'm a bit familiar :/ | 11:53 | ||
| seme | for instance the TOP token is written token TOP { <.indent_zero> <file_input> {*} } | ||
| I see... | 11:54 | ||
| right and the squaak tutorial is based on the HLL::Grammar... is that the same as the NQP-rx or NQP? | |||
| moritz | that can be either NQP or NQP-rx (though I suspect it's the latter) | 11:55 | |
| anyway, in the parrot repo, compilers/pge/PGE/Regex.pir has some examples that implement built-in rules in PIR | 11:56 | ||
| seme | ooh I see... I didn't realize the distinction... hrm... the documentation is based on the PGE::Grammar and the squaak tutorial uses the HLL::Grammar :) | ||
| for a new language which grammar should be used? | 11:58 | ||
| moritz | well, on the surface PGE, NQP and NQP-rx look quite familiar, because the all implement Perl 6 regexes to some degree | ||
| hm, good question | 11:59 | ||
| NQP-rx seems like an obvious choice, because it's much newer than PGE, and bundled with parrot | |||
| and NQP is also an obvious choice, because it comes with 6model, and that can be quite convenient if you want to implement your own object system | 12:00 | ||
| seme | oddly enough the Actions are written (it would appear as nqp) and the grammar file gets parsed using the PGE/Perl6Grammar generator | 12:04 | |
| ok I need to do some research now and get an understanding of the differences between the PGE/Perl6Grammar NQP-rx and NQP | 12:05 | ||
| the squaak tutorial appears to use the NQP-rx generator but in the doc is says it uses perl6 rules... | 12:06 | ||
| moritz | yes, NQP-rx implements perl 6 rules | ||
| seme | ok got it | 12:07 | |
| and if you are using the PGE/Perl6Grammar generator is that then the same thing? | |||
| moritz | well, it's only mostly the same on the surface | 12:08 | |
| the conventions of how acall to a grammar rule maps to PIR is different between those implementations, I think | 12:09 | ||
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| dukeleto | ~~ | 16:41 | |
| this looks like a useful general technique: mweissbacher.com/blog/2012/02/18/fi...rse-trees/ | 17:02 | ||
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| dalek | Heuristic branch merge: pushed 98 commits to rakudo/match-refactor by jnthn | 17:05 | |
| Heuristic branch merge: pushed 92 commits to parrot/m0 by leto | 17:18 | ||
| rrot/threads: 60efbf6 | nine++ | src/ (2 files): Block GC while scheduling a task on another thread Scheduling may cause the garbage collector to kick in. If we schedule on another thread, this would start the other interpreter's GC from the wrong thread where it would find foreign PMCs on the stack. A situation we really want to avoid. |
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| dukeleto | this looks interesting: swdc.se/dyncon2012/ | 17:53 | |
| nine | 2500 SEK entry fee | 17:56 | |
| moritz | so slightly more than 300€ | ||
| dukeleto | whoa | 17:57 | |
| didn't see that | |||
| madness | |||
| moritz | that's expensive-ish for an open source conference, but dead cheap for corporate conferences | ||
| dalek | kudo/nom: 93104f1 | jnthn++ | src/ (5 files): Only need multi handling stuff in Routine; don't make every other block pay the price of the few extra attributes. |
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| kudo/nom: 99bc8b3 | jnthn++ | src/Perl6/Metamodel/BOOTSTRAP.pm: Fix over-sharing of proto thunks, which caused mis-dispatches in some cases. |
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| nine | No info, just two sessions, one of which may be somewhat interesting. No idea why one should go there :) | 17:59 | |
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| moritz | what I'd really like to visit is the "emergent languages" track on OSCON | 18:02 | |
| ah wait, that was last year. This year they are part of "The Strange Loop" | 18:03 | ||
| oh, *emerging | |||
| emerginglangs.com/ | |||
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| travis-ci | [travis-ci] parrot/parrot#87 (m0 - bae9ca3 : Jonathan "Duke" Leto): The build passed. | 18:03 | |
| [travis-ci] Change view : github.com/parrot/parrot/compare/e......bae9ca3 | |||
| [travis-ci] Build details : travis-ci.org/parrot/parrot/builds/781222 | |||
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| dalek | rrot/threads: f29b241 | nine++ | src/pmc/scheduler.pmc: Keep a list of foreign tasks We don't know if the user keeps references to the tasks he starts. So we have to assume he doesn't and do it ourselves. |
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| kudo/nom: e46bfea | moritz++ | src/ (4 files): Merge remote branch 'origin/match-refactor' into nom |
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| Heuristic branch merge: pushed 150 commits to nqp/qbootstrap by jnthn | 18:14 | ||
| nine | Any idea why my parrot would not start in gcc? paste.scsys.co.uk/184893 | 18:20 | |
| tadzik | huh, you didn't really mean gdb, did you? | 18:21 | |
| Coke | what is gcc? I assume it's not the gnu c compiler... | ||
| nine | ah gdb of course | ||
| classic ENOCOFFEE | |||
| Surprisingly gdb likes the executable much more | 18:22 | ||
| dalek | kudo/nom: c3b4d54 | moritz++ | t/spectest.data: run operator overloading workout.t |
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| cotto | ~~ | 18:43 | |
| dalek | kudo/nom: b6c09b4 | moritz++ | t/spectest.data: run S06-operator-overloading/imported-subs.t |
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| alvis | cotto: hello. when i try to install the parrotbug_service module, i get: | 19:07 | |
| cotto: "parrotbug API resource This version is not compatible with Drupal 7.x and should be replaced". | |||
| cotto | alvis: ok. | 19:08 | |
| alvis | cotto: any ideas? | ||
| cotto | I think that's because I haven't tested it with drupal 7 yet | ||
| alvis | cotto: ah, ok. | ||
| cotto: i'll reinstall 6 and try that over the weekend. | 19:09 | ||
| cotto | alvis: no need. we'll be running on 7 on parrot.org | ||
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| alvis | cotto: ok, i'll try fiddlin' with it (without much success i'm sure :) 'til i hear further from you. | 19:11 | |
| cotto | I should have a few spare tuits today | ||
| alvis | great! just let me know then. | 19:12 | |
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| dalek | kudo/nom: ced04f7 | (Felix Herrmann)++ | / (2 files): enable Configure.pl to pass options to Parrot's make |
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| kudo/nom: d4dc7d7 | moritz++ | src/Perl6/Grammar.pm: fix regression introduced in 6588dd39, fixes bug #111492 |
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| cotto | alvis: I have the code semi-working but there seems to be a permission issue that I don't have time to dive into until tonight | 19:52 | |
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| cotto | alvis: parrotbug-service is working on drupal 7 now (though not on 6) | 21:23 | |
| you'll need to grant anonymous users the permission to use the parrotbug service to create github issues and to configure the various settings under Configuration -> parrotbug service | 21:24 | ||
| POSTing something like {"title":"bug test","body":"issue body"} to your-site/api/parrotbug should be enough to post a test issue | 21:28 | ||
| once the Services endpoint is set up and has the parrotbug resource enabled | 21:30 | ||
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| dalek | kudo/macros3: fca3907 | masak++ | / (7 files): implemented quasi quotes and macros This works: - Macro declarations - Calling a macro (using `macro()` and `macro` and operators) - Quasi quotes - Variable lookup from within the quasi quote This doesn't, yet: - Returning a macro parameter instead of a quasi - Variable lookup from within a macro parameter |
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| kudo/nom: dc6b0ef | jnthn++ | src/Perl6/Actions.pm: For sub-signatures using [...] we should constrain to Positional. |
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| kudo/nom: 79c8e19 | jnthn++ | src/Perl6/Actions.pm: Fix the do-we-have-a-subsig test so it doesn't drop 0-arity subsignatures. |
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| kudo/nom: 4f62718 | jnthn++ | src/core/traits.pm: Eliminate old hack from the bad old days when we ran traits again at startup. |
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| kudo/nom: 715aed6 | jnthn++ | src/core/operators.pm: Fix ::('blah') lookups to also fall back to GLOBAL (tadzik++ for noting the bug). |
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| cotto | alvis: all changed needed for parrotbug-service to work with drupal 7 have been pushed | 23:11 | |
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| whiteknight | good evening, #parrot | 23:43 | |