Parrot 5.5.0 "Salvadori's Fig Parrot" | parrot.org/ | Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot | #parrotsketch meeting Tuesday 19:30 UTC
Set by moderator on 13 July 2013.
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akwillis Does the parrot project need help with web development? 00:44
Parrot should self-sign if it does not have a CA. 00:45
It just looks scary when https is used and the cert comes back invalid
ok, i will be around a bit. 00:50
I was going to register but I would rather receive a self-sign cert before an invalid cert. I am willing to help. 00:51
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akwillis thirty some mods and I can't get a response - no wonder this project is dead. 01:34
this is the fourth time ive sat in irc for hours with no response. 01:35
How do you expect to pull in new developers. 01:36
Either way, I am done.
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akwillis I have been reading the mailing lists to get familiar with parrot and if I took anything from my reading it is that leto and reini are complete asses - just saying. 02:32
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dukeleto akwillis: go on... :) 03:16
akwillis: perhaps because you are in a different timezone than most active parrot devs, you are not finding people 03:17
akwillis: there is a weekly meeting in #parrotsketch where various people show up at the same time
akwillis: if you want help getting involved with parrot, feel free to email me directly: duke@leto.net 03:18
akwillis: also, reini and I have known each other for years, so perhaps you are misunderstanding our communication 03:19
akwillis: and I would *love* to hear why you get the impression that we are both "complete asses" :) 03:20
akwillis: what were you trying to do with https on parrot.org ? 03:24
akwillis: somebody is supposed to be updating our ssl cert but somebody dropped the ball 03:25
akwillis: i would prefer that we migrate to github pages, but parrot.org is a drupal instance currently, iirc
sa1: ping 03:26
p6eval: say 1/0;
p6eval: say 42 03:27
no bueno
sa1 dukeleto: pong
dukeleto sa1: going to eat dinner, but will be available in 1.5hrs or so 03:28
sa1: if you need help
sa1 dukeleto: okay, I just woke up a while ago, will get to work in a while.
dukeleto sa1: eat and exercise first, then code. Better things will happen :) 03:29
dukeleto ->gather($food)
sa1 :)
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dukeleto sa1: took a bit longer than i thought :) 05:22
sa1: how are your docs?
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sa1 dukeleto: Just commenting things at the moment. 05:43
I wonder if there is a flexible doc generator that could work here 05:44
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dukeleto sa1: just write some good, useful documentation for now :) 06:38
sa1: think about how things are ordered
sa1: and explain it like you have no idea how it works on the inside. It is not as easy as it sounds :) 06:39
sa1: but yes, in the future we can add some doc automation
sa1: but automated docs are usually horrible, but better than nothing. Maybe. I just read the source, usually :)
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dukeleto sa1: still around 07:09
sa1: i got distracted. Like it's my job.
sa1 dukeleto: The documentation will be more of a template at this point 07:11
dukeleto sa1: my advisor in college told me many, many times: "something is better than nothing" 07:12
sa1: he was from India :)
sa1: not sure which region. Two of my other revered professors were from the Bombay and Calcutta regions 07:13
sa1 dukeleto: Yes, I agree. Though I just want to get the first example program working, so that it forms the focus of the documentation.
dukeleto sa1: many Indian mathematicans/physicists seem to like the extreme heat of Florida :)
sa1 dukeleto: Usually you can tell from the name, the region. 07:14
dukeleto sa1: i have to change to a different dev machine, so i am migrating over to that
sa1: Vajravelu, Shivamoggi and Choudhury
sa1: I published papers with all of them :)
sa1 Okay. The first person seems to be a south Indian. The other two names are ambiguous. 07:15
My name would be ambiguous too. From Kumar, you can just say North India. 07:16
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dukeleto sa1: good to learn these things :) 07:28
sa1: not sure how much help i can be to you tonight. Stupid deadlines that i can no longer put off are kicking in tomorrow 07:29
sa1: but i will attack that structview bug very soon, or have plobsing dig us out of our hole
sa1: please send an email to parrot-dev and cc plobsing at gmail dot com, asking for help with structview 07:30
sa1 dukeleto: okay, I will do that. 07:31
dukeleto sa1: that way, we have multiple avenues of attack :)
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dukeleto rurban1: are you a human? 08:05
Guess not. 08:55
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dalek kudo/nom: 9bdb5bc | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core/traits.pm:
Move definition of $/, $! and $_ so "is default" might actually work in the future.
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Coke how does one get operator status for an irc.perl.org channel? 14:09
rurban1 ask mst 14:20
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Coke rurban++ Thanks. 14:52
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Util dukeleto: I am in transit today, but I will be settled and online in the morning. 16:13
I am planning to handle both the release and the #ps meeting tomorrow.
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dalek kudo/nom: 37bf15c | jonathan++ | src/vm/jvm/runtime/org/perl6/rakudo/Binder.java:
Die on unexpected arguments.

Handles both positional and named case. This clears up many of the remaining S06 test files with failures.
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kudo/nom: 14c63bb | jonathan++ | src/vm/jvm/runtime/org/perl6/rakudo/RakOps.java:
Implement getThrower.

Means various error cases now through the correct typed exception.
kudo/nom: 961c030 | jonathan++ | src/ (4 files):
Abstract a Parrotism hit in backtrace gen.
kudo/nom: 4ad1b8e | jonathan++ | src/core/Exception.pm:
Fix undeclared named reporting.

Makes S32-exceptions/misc.t get to the end, and a few other things pass.
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