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kid51 kid51's report 12:54
* DONE
** TT #515: Met with former Parrot release manager Jeff Goff to get older version of Parrot off CPAN. 12:55
** No other cage cleaning.
** Attending YAPC::NA::2011.
*** Spoke on Open Source Software Projects and Communities: thenceforward.net/perl/yapc/YAPC-NA.../ossp.odt; slides also available; cotto has posted audio
*** Met atrodo and GSOCer soh_cah_toa and Rakudo's colomon; re-met benabik, util, cotto, dukeleto, particle, chromatic; met/re-met former Parrot-eers reini, chip, jgoff
*** Met with particle, dukeleto and cotto re PaFo and project business
* WILL DO
** Continuing at YAPC::NA::2011
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kid51 *** Attending Parrot BOF tonight (June 28) 12:55
*** Attending talks by cotto and dukeleto tomorrow (June 29)
*** Attending morning part of hackathon on Thursday (June 30)
** Working on action items arising from consultation with directors
** Will get briefed on being release manager
EOR
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benabik DID: - notes for a blog on PAST & POST. - Drove a lot 18:33
WILL DO: YAPC, hackathon, finish post, drive more 18:34
EOR
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lucian What I did: took a vacation, read up on compiler codegen techniques 19:06
What I'll do: work on compiler completeness, in particular scoping 19:08
EOR
atrodo .done 19:09
* At YAPC::NA, enjoying the talks and seeing more parrot people
* Saw kid51++ talk about community and parrot
* Relased a new version of isparrotfastyet.com
.todo
* Attending the Parrot BOF tonight
* Attend dukeleto and cotto's talks
* Get new results flowing into ipfy
* Ended up working on opsc_lasm as my YAPC project
* Hopefully get some time to chat about M0 with cotto, dukeleto, et all
.end
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cotto #done: 19:54
- thinking and talking about M0 overlay langauge
- work on Parrot talk
- gave OSBridge Parrot talk
#to do:
- will give yapc Parrot talk
- think and write about the M0 overlay language
- think and write about what M0's future in Parrot will look like
- hang out with Parrot hackers at YAPC::NA
- spec/implement some useful primitive string processing primitives
#blockers
- wireless at yapc is lta depending on time/place
#eor
NotFound What I did: 19:59
-parrot
* Minor fixes and cleanups.
* Implmented vtable get_bool in UnManagedStruct
-winxed
* Migrated to github.
* Minor fixes, improvements and refactors.
* Some more tests.
* Allowed non-var lexicals.
* extern function
* Created a branch to work on $include
What I will do:
Test, polish and merge winxed include branch.
EOR
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whiteknight WHAT I DID: 20:07
* prototyped a new PackfileView PMC type in the whiteknight/packfilewrapper branch.
* Rosella updates, in response to various requests
* Prototyping a new text-templating library for Rosella. Far off, but fun to think about.
WHAT I WILL DO:
* Get feedback about PackfileView. Make updates. Add tests. Make mergable, if merging is wanted.
* PaFo paperwork. Fun!
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whiteknight * Rosella cleanups. 20:07
* Winxed documentation.
EOR
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mikehh What I did since my last report: 20:10
* building and testing parrot on amd64/i386, with gcc/g++
* a couple of fixes
What I intend to do in the next week:
* testing and fixing
.eor
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kid51 is in Mt Pisgah room attending coworker's talk 20:27
tcurtis DID:
* Fixed CFSM bugs.
* Implemented building the nonterminal-transition table.
* Most of the rest of LR(0) parser generation. Just need to actually add the lookback states.
WILL DO:
* Blog
* Do the lookback state stuff. 20:28
* Write a DPDA interpreter.
* Figure out how to handle pop/output transitions.
EOR
dukeleto What I did:
* Met atrodo++, soh_cah_toa++, util++ for the first time at YAPC::NA 2011
* Working on my "Visual Intro to Parrot Virtual Machine" talk that I will give tomorrow
* Git cloned winxed and Rosella for the first time and played around with them
* Got a commit bit to Rosella
* Fixed a bug in the Rosella test suite where the memoize tests failed on 32bit machines
* Talked with cotto++ and chromatic++ about what language should be used to generate M0 code
* Met with cotto++, particle++ and kid51++ and talked about Parrot Foundation stuff
* Contacted the Software Freedom Conservancy ( sfconservancy.org ) about Parrot
joining their ranks, so we don't have parrot hackers attempting to IRS paperwork and other non -Ofun stuff
What I will do:
* Attend the Parrot/Perl 6 BOF tonight
* Give my talk tomorrow
* Attend the Parrot hackaton on Thursday
Blockers:
* Lack of a waterproof laptop so I can hack in the hotel pool
.EOR
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kid51 Hello 20:31
mikehh hi there
tcurtis Hi.
NotFound Hola
benabik o/
cotto hello
atrodo howdy 20:32
dukeleto hola
bubaflub hola
pmichaud hello.
NotFound Informal #ps today because of most people at the conference.
How we did last week? 20:33
mikehh not much action in master
kid51 We did not reduce number of open tickets; may have gone up one. 20:34
cotto conferences are going well and are great for thinking and writing. I haven't done much coding though. 20:35
NotFound GOAL 0 - explore what's needed to produce a useful profiler (cotto, whiteknight) - Something?
cotto not on my end
NotFound GOAL 1: break things (and fix them) (NotFound) - Done ;)
cotto NotFound++
NotFound GOAL 2: OS Bridge blogging ?
cotto um...
NotFound I think I've seen something in the mailing list 20:36
GOAL 3: YAPC::NA blogging 20:37
kid51 I don't think anyone has blogged yet, but my talk is online (links posted to parrot-dev and in summary above)
cotto I've got some concepts that could be teased into blog posts
not related to yapc though
NotFound Good 20:38
GOAL 4: CoApp package (cotto)
cotto actually, the talk from kid51++ would be a great blogging topic
kid51 missed that goal and checks link in last week's psketch
benabik +1
cotto no windows computer, so no coapp
atrodo I agree with cotto
cotto will have access to one next week at $dayjob
NotFound It was premature to put that as week goal.
atrodo CoApp? 20:39
NotFound coapp.org/
kid51 coapp.org/Information/What-Is-CoApp.html
atrodo ask and ye shall recieve
cotto I did that mostly so I wouldn't forget it. You're right that I should remind myself some other way and keep the goals less noisy.
dukeleto has been a lazy blogger. I've finished my TPF embed grant (forgot to put that in my report) but I need to write my final blog post 20:40
cotto apt-like package management for windows
kid51 Heh! It's interesting that that CoApp page poses this question: What is the point of CoApp? ... which is the way I posed Q1 for OS projects in my talk
cotto indeed
atrodo kid51++
kid51 cotto: Do you think that between Parrot BOF here and hackathon on Thursday, we could start our cogitation re Profiling? 20:43
cotto Only have of the people who said they'd do it will be there, but I'd be fine with it. 20:44
kid51 The other half might be back online by then :-) 20:45
cotto quite possible
dukeleto thinks the hackathon will have a fair bit of M0 hacking in it
and isparrotfastyet.com hacking as well 20:46
cotto do we have a whiteboard in the room?
kid51 Probably
NotFound Question time? 20:48
kid51 Are there any GSOCers present who can give a progress update?
lucian_ raises his hand
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dukeleto lucian: go for it 20:49
kid51 lucian, floor is yours
benabik won't raise his hand to not confuse the YAPC presenter.
lucian well, i have an incomplete, buggy, but otherwise mostly correct python object system written in winxed, based on hashes
NotFound No need to wait turn, remember that today is less formal than usually.
lucian and i've started retargeting the compiler to use said object system 20:50
dukeleto lucian: awesome!
lucian dukeleto: perhaps i should've said *very* incomplete :)
anyway, i've had a half-week break, and read up on compiler codegen techniques 20:51
dukeleto lucian: i am trying to encourage you :)
lucian so haven't written much code at all for the past week
dukeleto: and i'm trying to not raise anyone's hopes :)
NotFound We need a cheerleading team
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dukeleto benabik: do you have any more details about your gsoc progress? 20:52
benabik will be terse due to iPad keyboard. 20:53
I've mostly gotten rid of PIR in PAST
Am gathering notes on PAST, POST and the translation between to plan next steps, write detailed blog and improve docs. 20:54
I'm a bit behind, partially due to YAPC & pmichaud, but plan on a good long hacking session post-conf 20:55
bubaflub test coverage is nearing completion for Parrot-GMP - ran into some difficulties with the way that GMP handles random number initialization and seeding. will work on getting automated setup and build and more docs before the mid-term.
benabik (done)
bubaflub (whoops)
dukeleto bubaflub: keep going if you have more
bubaflub: /me wants a working setup.pir sooner rather than later so others can kick the tires of parrot-gmp :) 20:56
bubaflub pmichaud mentioned some interest in Parrot-GMP for Rakudo land so after my deliverables are done i'll focus on NQP or Rakudo examples
NotFound Remember, informal day. But remember there are guys with tablets and phones, take it easy.
benabik (PAST and POST have very mixed levels of docs, so want to spend a little extra time improving.)
dukeleto bubaflub: i have heard/seen of nqp and winxed examples. Have you used parrot-gmp from Rakudo yet? 20:57
benabik (really done now)
dukeleto puts on his funny, informal, hat
bubaflub dukeleto: no, it should be a blast. i haven't built rakudo in a while either.
dukeleto benabik++ # improving docs is sorely needed
bubaflub oh, also on the roadmap is adding more VTABLE overrides so Parrot-GMP stuff plays nice
NotFound Now that you mention it, I've been thinking about adding a pir_winxed step to distutils. Opinions? 20:58
dukeleto NotFound: please explain a bit more
mikehh NotFound: definately
kid51 has to relocate out of this room at YAPC, but will rejoin
NotFound dukeleto: a way to tell distutils to compile a winxed file to pir 20:59
To be used from plumage, for example.
The point is that now that parrot includes a winxed compiler there is no need to have the compiled pir in repo or packages. 21:01
dukeleto NotFound: ah, i understand. Yes, that sounds like a nice idea. +1 21:02
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NotFound Some goals for next week? 21:07
mikehh Blogs from YAPC 21:08
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kid51 blogs from yapc and osbridge 21:09
some evidence that we're working on planning for profiling
Those 2 would suffice for me 21:10
Esp since upcoming weekend is holiday weekend in US
mikehh really want to hear about the BOF and Hackathon
kid51 mikehh: Much of it will, of course, be broadcast live in #parrot :-) 21:11
mikehh kid51: hope so, will try and be around
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kid51 BOF starts at 2230 today; hackathon starts at 1300 on Thursday 21:13
But we may end up BOFfing Wed PM as well
pmichaud (times are UTC?)
cottoo I hope so
kid51 pmichaud: my attempts thereat
cottoo 1830 local time for the bof
benabik Local = UTC-4, IIRC 21:14
kid51 has to go prepare for lightning talk; bye till BOF
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dukeleto is going to head out the lightning talks in 10mins or so 21:15
cottoo ditto 21:16
NotFound Looks like we can informally close the informal meeting. Let's blog about everything. Broadcast in parrot. 21:20
dukeleto ENOFORMALITY 21:21
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