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| jonathan | Won't be here for #parrotsketch, so pre-reporting... | 18:11 | |
| * Attended YAPC::Europe and gave a couple of talks | |||
| * Did hackathoning before and after the workshop | |||
| * Had many useful/interesting discussions with pmichaud and Allison | |||
| * Got the Perl 6 MultiSub PMC mostly there | |||
| ** Arity and type (class + role) based dispatch | |||
| ** Topological sorting of a type narrowness DAG to provide candidate ordering | |||
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| jonathan | ** Tie-breaking on constraint types | 18:11 | |
| * Next steps on the PMC are | |||
| ** Get the is default trait to tie-break too | |||
| ** Look up any in-scope proto | |||
| ** Fix the memory leaks - mostly ignored memory management while I got it functional | |||
| ** Fix pmc2c bug that means we need a hack right now | |||
| * Have patched various other little odds and ends in Rakudo, forget exactly what | |||
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| jonathan | * Tomorrow is Rakudo day; plan to get lazy lists in place, or at least start that | 18:11 | |
| * Will continue working on DeepText grant for MMD to start getting it into Rakudo, now the PMC is about done | |||
| * Next week I'm not here - taking some laptop-free vacation in Romania. | |||
| EOR | |||
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| Tene | * Minor cardinal updates. | 18:19 | |
| * Caused lots of segfaults and strange hangs while working on exceptions, but didn't get anywhere productive. | 18:20 | ||
| * We need some work on HLL mapping, but been too busy with work to start a discussion on the list. | |||
| * Giving a presentation to the Austin LUG on Thursday. | 18:21 | ||
| EOR | |||
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| pmichaud | ...darn, I can't make it to Austin on Thursday. :-| | 18:25 | |
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| moritz | is #ps now? | 18:34 | |
| Wknight8111 | u can haz #ps nao | ||
| tewk | I'm here | 18:35 | |
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| pmichaud | I don't know if chromatic or dietcoke will make it today, so I'll go ahead and run things | 18:36 | |
| Wknight8111 | pmichaud++ | ||
| jhorwitz arrives late | |||
| pmichaud | allison, shall we start with you? | ||
| barney is here too | |||
| allison | ok | 18:37 | |
| rgrjr | here (but not clever enough to say so sotto voce) | ||
| allison | - Two Parrot hackathons last week, both very productive. | ||
| - Assembled and posted a tasklist for the multiple dispatch branch. | 18:38 | ||
| - Applying patches from Andrew Whitworth for the multiple dispatch branch. | |||
| - Also nearly finished implementing the MULTI routine parsing in PMCs. | 18:39 | ||
| EOR | |||
| pmichaud | barney? | ||
| barney | Attended YAPC::EU. | ||
| Added for and while-loops to Pipp. | |||
| .eor | |||
| pmichaud | jhorwitz? | 18:40 | |
| jhorwitz | nquired about resource management for mod_parrot. allison suggested waiting for security sandboxes, so that's what i'm doing. | ||
| no other progress unfortunately | 18:41 | ||
| EOR | |||
| pmichaud | jonathan posted his report earlier (see irclog or scrollback) | ||
| moritz? | |||
| moritz | * Vacations, so no hacking | ||
| * Submitted GSOC final evaluation | 18:42 | ||
| * Now backlogging RT, commits and blogs | |||
| EOR | |||
| pmichaud | particle? | ||
| ENOPARTICLE, so rgrjr? | 18:43 | ||
| rgrjr | just release prep (I'm about to upload now.) | 18:44 | |
| .eor | |||
| pmichaud | rgrjr++ on august release | ||
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| pmichaud | Tene also posted in scrollback | 18:44 | |
| tewk? | |||
| tewk | * Working on x86_64 jitted nci stubs, debugging that is, its starting to work | 18:45 | |
| * gsoc_nci_001 is stable and ready to merge | |||
| EOR | |||
| * would like to find some time to try to use ncigen on apache headers. | |||
| * I'm always short on tuits | |||
| pmichaud | Allison gave away a bunch of tuits at YAPC::EU, and many were even auctioned off :-) | ||
| NotFound, anything to report? | |||
| NotFound | - more work on debugger | ||
| - codingstd and c++ fixes | 18:46 | ||
| eor | |||
| pmichaud | excellent. Wknight8111? | ||
| Wknight8111 | * Wrapped up GSOC work, final reports, evaluations, etc. | 18:47 | |
| * Not "finished" with the GC, and still working on it. | |||
| * Write up some documentation, clarifications to PDD09 | |||
| * Looking to get involved with the pdd27mmd branch, if I can find more things to hack on that I actually understand. | |||
| EOR | |||
| pmichaud | my report: | ||
| ** Rakudo spectest_regression: 121 files, 2220 passing tests | |||
| == Overall | |||
| : Hawai'i and YAPC::EU over the past couple of weeks | |||
| : Very productive discussions with Jonathan++ and Allison++ at YAPC::EU | |||
| == PCT stuff | |||
| : Added :scope('register') to PAST::Var nodes | |||
| : Anonymous PAST::Block nodes are now :anon in Parrot | |||
| - should help with sub naming conflicts across modules, see below | |||
| : Added 'loadinit' attribute to PAST::Block | |||
| - allows block properties and bindings to be easily set at load time | |||
| : Worked on .HLL proof of concept on plane to Copenhagen | |||
| - should work out okay but may need some updates to existing libraries | |||
| : PAST::Op :inline() nodes can now take an array of strings | |||
| : Fixed POST->PIR generation to generate parrot subs in proper sequence | |||
| == Rakudo stuff | 18:48 | ||
| : various method and code refactors | |||
| : applied patches, fixed bugs, resolved RT tickets in perl6 queue | |||
| : updated ROADMAP with help from obra++ and jonathan++ | |||
| : cleaned up :inline PIR in code generation | |||
| : nearly complete on getting precompiled modules to work | |||
| - anonymous blocks are truly anonymous, so no conflicts | |||
| - fixed up :load/:init handling for loading precompiled modules | |||
| - had expected to finish while at YAPC::EU, but there are a | |||
| number of io.pir and control.pir refactors needed that I | |||
| hadn't accounted for | |||
| - these aren't long, just need some dedicated hacking time | |||
| == Blocker status | |||
| : Resumable exceptions needed for gather/take processing | |||
| Queue two items. | |||
| EOR | |||
| anyone want to report that I inadvertently skipped? | |||
| DietCoke | Sure. | ||
| - removed getclass opcode | |||
| - removed builtin methods dispatch | |||
| - have a few branches going to rip out more deprecated things | |||
| - started some discussions on list | |||
| - need to figure out how to make partcl faster. :| | 18:49 | ||
| . | |||
| tewk | I forgot, I need a OSX x86 tester for the gsoc_nci_001 branch | ||
| DietCoke | tewk: I can setup a smolder test for you if you like. | ||
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| pmichaud | any other reports? | 18:50 | |
| if no other reports, then question/discussion time. I have two items: | 18:51 | ||
| 1. any more thoughts as to resumable exceptions availability? | |||
| (primarily for allison, I think) | |||
| allison | pmichaud: write me a test and I'll make it work | ||
| pmichaud | will do. | ||
| 2 comes from a comment from Tene, but also affects Rakudo | 18:52 | ||
| it would be really great if .HLL_map is introspectable and changeable at runtime. Any chance of that happening in the near future? | |||
| it's not always easy to get .HLL_map to work with custom types, because the types don't get created until runtime | |||
| allison | with the mailing list thread(s) of the past few weeks, I'm thinking it's time to spec HLL_* as a PDD | 18:53 | |
| pmichaud | that would work | ||
| allison | so, yes soon, but need to have some more conversations about what's needed | ||
| pmichaud | I can summarize in a mailing list message what would be good for short-term | 18:54 | |
| allison | (what we have now is lacking in several respects) | ||
| pmichaud | I wouldn't mind if we just had something in place for short-term, with a longer-term design to come later | ||
| allison | that sounds like a useful start | ||
| pmichaud | but trying to get .HLL_map to work with PIR classes is a little tricky at present | ||
| allison | if there are a few things we can fix quickly, good, but at the moment we seem to be piling patch on top of patch, with no clear overall direction | 18:55 | |
| pmichaud | I'll try to summarize ideas to list then. | ||
| Anyone else have discussion items or questions? | |||
| rgrjr | 1 from me | 18:56 | |
| pmichaud | go ahead rgrjr | ||
| rgrjr | I would like to add "highlights" to the usual release announcement. | ||
| See nopaste.snit.ch/13845 | |||
| Any additions/corrections? | |||
| moritz | +1 from me | 18:57 | |
| pmichaud | looks good to me -- I like it | ||
| barney | +1 | ||
| NotFound | +1 | 18:58 | |
| Wknight8111 | +1 | ||
| DietCoke | Very good. | 18:59 | |
| rgrjr | OK, I'll go with that, then; thanks for the feedback. | ||
| .eoq | |||
| allison | looks good | ||
| pmichaud | any other items or comments? | ||
| I do have another comment that it was very enjoyable meeting/seeing everyone at various conferences this summer | 19:00 | ||
| allison | It was indeed | 19:01 | |
| pmichaud | very productive. For those who didn't make it, there's lots of excitement continuing to build around Parrot and Rakudo, so thanks | ||
| okay, well, if there isn't anything else I think we can call it done for this week. | 19:02 | ||
| moritz | ciao | ||
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| pmichaud | continue the great work everyone | 19:02 | |
| DietCoke | adios. | ||
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