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weekly meeting at 18:30 UTC, Tuesday | logged at irclog.perlgeek.de/parrotsketch/today Set by moderator on 30 September 2008. |
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| pmichaud | I might be late (or absent) for today's parrotsketch -- if so, I'll post report later. | 16:25 | |
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| chromatic | Roll call. | 18:31 | |
| NotFound | H | ||
| kj | hiya | ||
| masak | hello | 18:32 | |
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| allison | hi | 18:32 | |
| particle | oy | ||
| Infinoid | (I'm just lurking) | ||
| chromatic | Let's go in alphabetical order. | ||
| barney | Hi | ||
| chromatic | allison? | ||
| allison | - Worked on bug fixing and ticket resolution preparing for the release. | ||
| jhorwitz arrives late | 18:33 | ||
| allison | - Working on an MMD bug that predated the MMD branch, preventing MultiSub from being invoked from C. (nearly resolved) | ||
| - Converted TGE over to using keyed classnames instead of '::' separated classnames. | |||
| - Will create the I/O branch right after the release. | |||
| EOR | |||
| chromatic | barney? | ||
| barney | nothing to report | ||
| .endnoreport | |||
| chromatic | I fixed some nasty bugs and closed a lot of tickets. | 18:34 | |
| Tene | Looks like I'm kinda here. | ||
| chromatic | I'm looking at RT #60030 for jhorwitz. | ||
| jhorwitz | chromatic++ | ||
| chromatic | japhb? | ||
| jhorwitz? | 18:35 | ||
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| jhorwitz | fixed some segfaults in mod_parrot | 18:35 | |
| mod_perl6 still blocked by the "use Foo::Bar" segfault. narrowed it down to a test case of a few lines of PIR (no rakudo required) and opened RT #60030. | |||
| EOR | 18:36 | ||
| chromatic | kj? | ||
| kj | * implement .set_arg (to replace .arg) in imcc | ||
| * updated pdd19 (involving .set_arg and friends) | |||
| * trying to understand how imcc writes to Packfiles. I basically get the idea, but there's a lot of details involved that I'm missing apparently. | |||
| .end | |||
| chromatic | masak? | ||
| masak | - Implemented $file ~~ :e in Rakudo. | ||
| - Looking at implementing leave() and when blocks that exit on success. | |||
| - Generally still learning about Parrot internals and Rakudo architecture. | |||
| - Hi all. | |||
| EOR | |||
| chromatic | NotFound? | 18:37 | |
| NotFound | Some minor fixes, and looking at several tickets without much results. | ||
| EOR | |||
| chromatic | particle? | ||
| particle | ^^ | ||
| ~ updates, bugfixes and other release prep | |||
| ~ implemented tagsets in 'is export()' trait | |||
| ~ working on importation code | |||
| ~ walking past tree in nqp is ugly -- contacted pmichaud for thoughts | |||
| $$ | 18:38 | ||
| chromatic | pmichaud? | ||
| particle | (9:25:49 AM) pmichaud: I might be late (or absent) for today's parrotsketch -- if so, I'll post report later. | ||
| kj | I think pmichaud wouldn't make it | ||
| chromatic | Tene? | ||
| Tene | I tried a few times to fix pheme/tge in hopes of also fixing problems for coke's tcl, but no success. My ego is wounded. Looks like I'll have to fix it the hard way. | 18:39 | |
| I'd really like to work on PCT more, towards .HLL, but blocking on pmichaud. | |||
| KTHXBAI | |||
| chromatic | tewk? | 18:40 | |
| Wknight8111? | 18:41 | ||
| Tene | Oh, also need to harass allison on a decision about class names. I gue-s question time. | ||
| chromatic | I think it's question time anyway now. | ||
| DietCoke | hey. | ||
| allison | Tene: I'll miss question time, but email parrot-dev | ||
| chromatic | DietCoke? | ||
| DietCoke | - misc cleanup of RT, include a patch and a few commits. | 18:42 | |
| -- we're down to 655 tickets new+open tickets. | |||
| - unable to get partcl working against trunk, unfortunately (but I'm still | |||
| better off than pheme) | |||
| - volunteers welcome to hack on partcl. (either for this issue or any others) code.google.com/p/partcl | |||
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| chromatic | cotto? | 18:42 | |
| cotto | no report this week | ||
| chromatic | Okay. Who has questions? | 18:43 | |
| DietCoke | ^ | ||
| chromatic | DietCoke? | ||
| pmichaud | (I'm here now, fwiw) | 18:44 | |
| DietCoke | I know patrick had concerns about a few of the tickets that were opened, and with pheme still borked: do we want to delay the release until those issues are fixed, or no? | ||
| Wknight8111 | I'm here now too, fyi | ||
| DietCoke | and I can wait on an answer until we're done with reports. | ||
| Wknight8111 | (sorry!) | ||
| pmichaud | my report is just that I worked on tickets and various other design things :-) | ||
| allison | I'd vote not to delay release (in case I'm not here after) | ||
| Wknight8111 | * Did some work in src/stacks.c. Avoid dereferencing NULL pointers, and removing dead code. | ||
| * Add some function- and file-level documentation | |||
| * Close a few tickets | 18:45 | ||
| * Worked on the calling_convention branch but am a little stuck there | |||
| * Added new ".tailcall" syntax to IMCC, and updated some tests to use it | |||
| * Fixed a memory leak in IMCC | |||
| * Pulled out a test in t/pmc/ro.t that relied on Perl6Scalar, which might not always be built. | |||
| * Away on vacation next week, no haxxoring for me :( | |||
| EOR | |||
| pmichaud | helped with more namespace issues; narrowed down the exception-handler-bug to a simple PIR test (attached to ticket) | ||
| I'm planning to look at pheme next after getting everything updated for release | |||
| I managed to work around some of the tickets/issues, so I'm less concerned about a release today. | 18:46 | ||
| (i.e., a release would be okay with me) | |||
| particle | ok, so i have a few votes not to delay release. i'm currently hunting a bug with linking and msvc that seems to go back to at least r30000 *sigh* | ||
| pmichaud | eor/answer to diet coke's item | ||
| chromatic | If we find a showstopper that we can triage to an easy workaround or fix, we might wait for that. | ||
| particle | yes | ||
| chromatic | ... but if it's not a showstopper, or it's a long fix, I hate to wait for a nebulous time. | 18:47 | |
| DietCoke | that's fine. I just hate to ship a borked pheme. | ||
| particle | either i finish release by 5p seattle time, or it waits until after beer/seattle.pm meeting | ||
| i'm with coke | |||
| DietCoke | but since it's your pheme, I don't care too much. partcl is now immune from such things (which was part of my evil plan) | ||
| chromatic | The whole point of Pheme was to find things like this early before they affected languages that people care about. | 18:48 | |
| pmichaud | I wonder if it's worth rewriting pheme to use nqp/pct instead of tge | 18:49 | |
| Tene | Except nobody else uses TGE. | ||
| pmichaud: any idea about your schedule for the next week-ish? | 18:50 | ||
| pmichaud | Tene: at this point, no. I should have some time this week, but things have had a nasty habit of popping up at unexpected times. | ||
| barney | Eclectus is Scheme on Parrot using PCT | ||
| pmichaud | I expect to be around most of tomorrow. | 18:51 | |
| chromatic | I don't mind rewriting Pheme to use NQP, but if there are other languages using TGE, it's nice to have a simple bootstrapped language to test them. | ||
| Pheme tests run several orders of magnitude more quickly than Tcl tests. | |||
| pmichaud | I think that Tcl and pheme are the only ones using tge at this point. I could be wrong. | ||
| particle | i'm open to suggestions for a release name | ||
| chromatic | Flock of Recursing Parrots | 18:52 | |
| Wknight8111 | TEH PAROTZ | ||
| pmichaud | :psittacosaurus" is still open :-) | ||
| Wknight8111 | actually, that will be the name I use in december. I've got dibs! | ||
| pmichaud | er, "psittacosaurus" | 18:53 | |
| since this is the 0.8 release, and it's october, perhaps octoparrot | |||
| cotto | +1 | ||
| chromatic | Octarine | 18:54 | |
| pmichaud | "high octane" :-) | ||
| masak likes 'Octoparrot' | |||
| pmichaud | octarine is also good | ||
| NotFound | Octoparrot's garden | 18:55 | |
| pmichaud | parroctoberfest | 18:56 | |
| barney | parrotoktoberfest | 18:57 | |
| Tene | pair³ot | 18:58 | |
| Infinoid | Giant Octoparrots From Mars | ||
| cotto | bikeshed | 18:59 | |
| NotFound | Parrot 8 from outer space | ||
| DietCoke | ... 0.8! | ||
| particle | hrmm, today in 1879, edison invented the light bulb | ||
| chromatic | That's 0.90 | ||
| Infinoid | Invasion Of The Psittaciformes | ||
| chromatic | Are there other questions? This is getting silly enough for the regular channel. | ||
| particle | ...and now for something completely different! | 19:00 | |
| chromatic | Okay, let's call it a week. Close those tickets everyone! | 19:02 | |
| cotto | it's a week | 19:03 | |
| particle | that was weak | ||
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