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kid51 kid51's report 13:19
* My direct work led to closing of these tickets:
** TT #1922 review 'make help' output
** TT #1934 coding stds for Python files 13:20
* Cage cleaning led to closing of these tickets:
** TT #1123 make test errors on OS X 10.6.1
** TT #30 make shared libparrot work with already installed shared libparrot
** TT #1873 Win2K version requirement impeded build
** TT #540 installed versions of dynext/*.so still link to -lparrot in build dir
** TT #1392 build parrot failed on CentOS
* Additional posting on parrot.org re upcoming Parrot Developer Summit; we need to decide exact day and time ASAP
* Testing on various branches 13:21
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cotto_work *did: 19:50
- started working with fbrito++ to get his github post-receive script ready for prime time
-- needs a bit of deployment-related work, eta depends on tuits
-- dukeleto++ moved it into a separate repo and volunteered to add a Build.PL
- talked with kid51++ about PDS and the state of Parrot in general
-- should probably blog about that too
- rfc review, closing tickets
- started a doodle poll for PDS scheduling
-- doodle.com/4phzuaiahkgd3ie5
-- If you want to participate, add your availability now.
-- We'll figure out a final time at #ps today.
- worked on roadmap goals; atrodo and I will be working on M0 (spec and prorotype) for 3.3
-- others are welcome, as always
*will do:
- more rfc review, more ticket closing
- PDS
- finalize roadmap goal(s) for 3.3 for PDS
*blockers:
- none
*eor
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tcurtis I finally found a little time to look into the test failure in tree-optimization. Haven't discovered the root cause, but I've figured out how it's failing and opened a ticket on issue on the github repo to remind myself to look into it further. 19:58
I plan to look into the bug further and fix it.
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mikehh What I did since my last report: 20:07
* unfortunately not that much done due to $work pressure
* building and testing parrot on amd64/i386, with gcc/g++
* some fixes
What I intend to do in the next week:
* testing and fixing
* prepare for next release (Feb 15 - 3.1)
.eor
dukeleto merged the ipv6 branch (rakudo has it already) and will be a bit late to #ps 20:16
Util # Done and doing: 20:21
* Working with Coverity to update scans from new GitHub repo.
.end
whiteknight WHAT I DID: 20:24
* Working like a madman on IMCC cleanup. Juggling several branches right now to pursue concurrent goals
WHAT I WILL DO:
* More IMCC.
EOR
plobsing What I Did: 20:28
* dead cruft elimination
* annotations-tree branch (improves annotation lookup time complexity)
What I Plan:
* more annotations work (eg: syntax for PMC annotations) 20:29
* experiment with annotation-based exception-handlers
* packfile stuff
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cotto_work hello 20:30
tadzik hello
plobsing o/
kid51 hello
allison hi 20:31
tadzik my one-liner: Worked on a last week's goal (Deprecations as Data), work pushed to a branch, TT updated
Coke ~~
mikehh hi there
Util Hello
whiteknight hello 20:32
kid51 OMG 9 people already present and participating! Let's rock and roll! 20:33
cotto_work: You chairing?
cotto_work sure. got distracted momentarily 20:34
How'd we do on our goals last week?
Deprecations as Data got a decent start.
tcurtis Hi.
cotto_work Did anyone look at false test failures or skipped tests? 20:35
kid51 I did not. 20:36
mikehh naw, too much $work pressure
cotto_work I don't think too much got added to the test aggregator wishlist either. 20:37
mikehh need to do it this week
cotto_work merging and dealing with the fallout seems to have gone well. 20:38
Coke looks like mj41++ resurrected ttbot (which already caught some win32 failures) 20:39
cotto_work we need more of that
any thoughts before we move on to questions? 20:41
Alright. Let's move to PDS scheduling. 20:43
or questions, but I didn't see any queued. 20:44
Coke having stuff like the ipv6 break master is annoying.
*merge
(but not annoying enough for me to throw any tuits at it.) 20:45
cotto_work How well-tested was that before it got merged?
mikehh well there are a bunch of codetest failures 20:47
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mikehh fixed but not committed yet 20:47
NotFound Sorry
kid51 Was the ipv6 thing a branch merge -- or simply an application of a patch?
mikehh according to dukeletto it was a branch and already in rakudo 20:48
kid51 From duke's message to parrot-dev it appears it was a pull from some other repository directly into master. 20:49
... which implies it wasn't really tested in parrot very much.
cotto_work That merge could have been done more carefully. I'd prefer to have it in a branch of parrot/parrot for longer before merging. 20:50
kid51 That message being the first here: groups.google.com/group/parrot-dev/...58f99ac1d#
Okay. Is someone already on the cases where it's generating failures in master? 20:51
whiteknight was reporting failures on Win32 20:52
cotto_work Let's make those a goal for the week then.
Code review on the merge would be good too. I'm sure it could use as many eyeballs as the brains behind them have tuits. 20:53
Util cotto_work: true in general, but in this case I think this issue is a .h not included, which would only show up in Win32 testing. 20:55
cotto_work any other thoughts before we move to PDS scheduling? 20:56
mikehh couple of branches seem ready to merge 20:57
dukeleto is back
whiteknight imcc_interfaces needs some fixing, which I will do tonight 20:58
plobsing's annotations branch needs testing
cotto_work I'll be looking at that one.
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dukeleto kid51: the ipv6 branch merge was a branch that has been in parrot.git since around november 21:02
kid51 dukeleto: But if the crucial patch didn't arrive until just recently, then the branch as a whole might not have been sufficiently tested. 21:03
Was that the case? If not, why was the branch hanging around so long? 21:04
cotto_work As far as PDS scheduling, 1000 PST would be great if it didn't exclude some Australia and Asia folks. The next best slot seems to be 1400 PST on Saturday.
dukeleto kid51: the original patch author picked up where i left off and made "make test" pass on his machine and mine
and rather then let the branch get stale again (because he had to deal with a good amount of merge conflicts), i merged 21:05
kid51 cotto_work: Well, as I have previously indicated, I would like to accommodate JimmyZ and bacek this time if possible.
dukeleto i figured it was early enough in this dev cycle that we were still in our "merge-athon" phase
cotto_work dukeleto: I think that that was the right decision, though perhaps I'd have given a day or two warning before merging. Anyway, I'm glad it's in master. 21:06
dukeleto Also, I started proto-hacking on Jaspers, Javascript on Parrot : github.com/leto/jaspers 21:07
kid51 PDS scheduling?
nwellnhof has anyone actually looked at the IPv6 branch? there's still some work to be done to integrate it cleanly.
dukeleto cotto_work: duly noted. I should have asked for some more testing on parrot-dev
nwellnhof: i did. what do you mean "integrate it cleanly" ? 21:08
nwellnhof have a look at what Parrot_io_connect_handle does, for example. that's a giant hack to somehow get it work.
i can fix all that, but i'd prefer to do that in a separate branch. 21:11
dukeleto nwellnhof: so can you create a branch to refactor and make our ipv6 saner? that would be awesome
nwellnhof: i agree, there are some hacks in there. I thought that it was enough of a starting point to go in and it would attract ipv6 people from outside parrot 21:12
nwellnhof is the windows build still broken?
dukeleto i saw many commits that said there were partial fixes, but i am not sure 21:13
i guess we should mark ipv6 support as experimental, as well
cotto_work That'd be a good idea.
dukeleto do we have a YAML version of deprecated.pod yet? 21:14
i haven't done the conversion
i think we can continue ipv6 talk in #parrot. what else needs talkin' about? 21:15
cotto_work We need to finalize the PDS time, though kid51seem to have ducked out.
whiteknight we can do that on the list tonight and tomorrow
dukeleto what about the content of PDS? has that been hammered out?
whiteknight: works for me
tadzik dukeleto: I can generate yaml instead/in addition to json 21:16
dukeleto tadzik: please! i beg you...
tadzik no problem :)
dukeleto tadzik: so we can start using deps as data
whiteknight I'm going to be sending proposals for two roadmap items to discuss to the list within the next day or two
tadzik (I'd prefer JSON anyway)
whiteknight if people want to talk about other topics, I suggest they do the same
kid51 is here
cotto_work wb
tadzik didn't know this was a blocker 21:17
kid51 whiteknight++ for posting about roadmap items 21:18
dukeleto tadzik: YAML is easier for humans
tadzik si
dukeleto tadzik: we can provide json generated from yaml if people really want that
cotto_work humans++
dukeleto tadzik: and i want to make a web interface to the dep data, if you are interested in that, let me know
goals? 21:19
tadzik dukeleto: maybe after my finals 21:20
cotto_work I'd like to propose 1400 PST for the PDS.
dukeleto tadzik: cool. buena suerte!
cotto_work: which day?
kid51 1400 PST = 1700 EST (5:00pm NYC) works4me
cotto_work Saturday
tadzik wklej.org/id/464587/ -- does it look good? 21:21
whiteknight is that good for people in other hemisphers? 21:22
I know that was a focal point
kid51 It will be earlyish Sunday morning for bacek
feasible
cotto_work He listed it as "if needed" 21:23
kid51 less good for China/India/Middle East
late Saturday evening for Europe
but there is no time that will please everyone
cotto_work nope
mikehh 22:00 for me, but ok 21:24
kid51 What does that translate to in UTC? 21:25
2200 UTC Sat Jan 29, I believe
mikehh that's me - GMT eq UTC 21:26
dukeleto tadzik: i like it. if it is valid yaml, please commit to the branch
cotto_work any final goals for the week?
here's what I have:
GOAL 1: fix ipv6 merge-related failures, review code (all)
GOAL 2: test branches - imcc_interfaces (whiteknight), annotations-tree (cotto)
GOAL 3: PDS prep - roadmap goals (kid51, dukeleto, cotto, whiteknight)
GOAL 4: concerns to address before 3.3 in April (all)
tadzik dukeleto: it's YAML.pm generated, so I guess it's valid
whiteknight looks good to me
dukeleto cotto_work: tree-optimization tuits
kid51 cotto_work: like whiteknight said ...
whiteknight I say a lot of things 21:27
cotto_work dukeleto: good one.
dukeleto even listens sometimes
kid51 must now refocus on $job
cotto_work GOAL 5: fix tree-optimization test failure, increase bus number
any volunteers for that last one?
mikehh just remember we have the next release on 15 Feb 21:28
tadzik DEPRECATED.yaml pushed
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whiteknight has to duck out and head home. later 21:28
cotto_work let's call it a wrap
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dukeleto tadzik++ 21:28
good meeting!
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