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| whiteknight | WHAT I DID: | 19:02 | |
| * Following along with GSOC projects, doing my best to answer questions in the channel | |||
| * Working on the Rosella.FileSystem library. It's a friendly wrapper around ugly bits like OS PMC. Will be familiar to users of C# System.IO and Python os module. That library is almost ready to be listed as "stable" | |||
| * Looking at profiling. I'm still not sure what we do and do not have, so I don't know what needs to be done. | |||
| * Following along with m0 happenings. Very interesting! Giving my input where asked. | |||
| * Lots of reading about 6model. Thinking about 6model. Planning for 6model. Loves me some 6model. | |||
| WHAT I WILL DO: | |||
| * Get Rosella.FileSystem finished up and released (probably 10 minutes worth of work at this point) | |||
| * Keep up with GSOC | |||
| QUESTIONS: | |||
| * I would like to bundle a snapshot of Winxed in the Parrot repo. It's heavily used by our GSoC students and several of our core developers. It would be great for writing certain tools and tests in, where we use PIR now and would like something less bad. | |||
| EOR | 19:03 | ||
| benabik | DID: | 19:07 | |
| - Sent a message to Buffalo.PM about carpooling to YAPC::NA | |||
| - Wrapped PAST::Compiler in NQP | |||
| - Blogged: parrot.org/content/gsoc-2-keeping-pace | |||
| AM DOING: | |||
| - Late lunch, should be back before things get rolling here. | |||
| WILL DO: | |||
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| benabik | - Rip out Q:PIR blocks | 19:21 | |
| - Sync up with bacek ($life keeps getting in the way) | 19:22 | ||
| EOR | |||
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| NotFound | What I did: | 19:25 | |
| -parrot | |||
| * Testing | |||
| -winxed | |||
| * Minor fixes | |||
| * Menu widgets in WinxedGtk | |||
| What I will do: | |||
| No plan | |||
| EOR | |||
| bubaflub | DID: | 19:40 | |
| * GSoC bloggin' | |||
| * GSoC work | |||
| - Github issues up the ying yang | |||
| - Script to generate NCI definition | |||
| - Started Winxed class | |||
| WILL DO: | |||
| * GSoC work | |||
| - Finish Winxed class | |||
| - Tests and Docs | |||
| END | |||
| cotto_work | *did: | 19:49 | |
| - M0 progress: | |||
| -- met with allison++, chromatic++ and dukeleto++ to talk about the future of M0 in Parrot | |||
| --- have lots of notes and a small mountain of topics to blog on | |||
| --- m0 spec and assembler are mostly updated with suggestions from Saturday | |||
| --- m0 interpreter and tests needs a little more love before they'll be whole again | |||
| -- The next stage (implementation in C) for M0 starts when: | |||
| -- 1) we feel like the spec is solid and we have a working cps-based fibonacci (and possibly other examples) | |||
| -- 2) we have maximal test coverage of the m0 interpreter and assembler according to Devel::Cover | |||
| -- If anyone wants to jump in, let me know and I'll find something fun. | |||
| - GSoC progress: | |||
| -- helped soh_cah_toa++ with various questions and build issues | |||
| -- now it's time to start thinking about design and testing | |||
| *will do: | |||
| - m0 (blogging, updating the spec, updating the implementation and tests) | |||
| - gsoc as needed | |||
| *eor | |||
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| Util | # Done: | 20:07 | |
| * Added Perl 6 solutions for 3 RosettaCode tasks. | |||
| * Found old work on TT#919. | |||
| # Plan to do: | |||
| * Finish writing talk for YAPC::NA::2011 | |||
| * Commit code for TT#919. | |||
| # 7-day ticket report: | |||
| * 2 closed: fixed | |||
| * 7 new | |||
| .end | |||
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| mikehh | What I did since my last report: | 20:27 | |
| * building and testing parrot on amd64/i386, with gcc/g++ | |||
| * a couple of fixes | |||
| What I intend to do in the next week: | |||
| * testing and fixing | |||
| .eor | |||
| soh_cah_toa | REPORT | 20:28 | |
| * GSOC: | |||
| - Made minimal hbdb runcore | |||
| - Made minimal embedded bytecode interpreter | |||
| - Began work/headache on breakpoints | |||
| * TODO: | |||
| - Have working breakpoint system | |||
| - Test coverage | |||
| EOR | |||
| tcurtis | What I did: | 20:29 | |
| * wrote a LALR::Grammar class and prettyprinter | |||
| * wrote a couple of example grammars. | |||
| What I will do: | |||
| * blog tonight | |||
| * meet with Darbelo | |||
| * write docs for LALR::Grammar | |||
| * work on parser generation for LR(0) grammars | |||
| * start with generation of the CFSMs for characteristic strings | |||
| * take midterm and study for finals... | |||
| cotto_work | tcurtis: is your report done? | 20:30 | |
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| tcurtis | EOR | 20:31 | |
| yes, sorry about that. | |||
| cotto_work | irc likes to truncate reports | ||
| hi all | |||
| mikehh | hi there | ||
| tcurtis | hi | ||
| soh_cah_toa | hello | ||
| Util | Hello | 20:32 | |
| lucian | REPORT | ||
| what i did: | |||
| - dissertation, exams | |||
| - prototype compiler for a python with numbers, assignment and print | |||
| - prototype object system in winxed, built over Hash. mostly correct, incomplete | 20:33 | ||
| what i’ll do: | |||
| - exam (tomorrow) | |||
| - get compiler to use object system | |||
| - object system tests, completeness work | |||
| EOR | |||
| benabik | hi | ||
| cotto_work | a note to gsoc students: please try to post reports before #ps starts | 20:34 | |
| NotFound | Hola | ||
| cotto_work | our goals were: | ||
| GOAL 1: Make git the canonical source of deprecation information (mikehh) | |||
| GOAL 2: Find a way to make trac human-friendly and bot-hostile (cotto) | |||
| lucian | ah, sorry | ||
| cotto_work | lucian: no problem | ||
| I know I got nowhere on my goal due to M0 stuff | |||
| mikehh: any progress on your goal? | 20:35 | ||
| mikehh | Goal1: been working on it a bit, needs more thought and time | ||
| cotto_work | good timing | ||
| mikehh | done some stuff locally, not ready to push it yet | 20:36 | |
| lucian | i know some people suggested github issues, perhaps a trial using something like github.com/adamcik/github-trac-ticket-import is possible | ||
| cotto_work | lucian: interesting idea | 20:37 | |
| lucian | also, launchpad issues > trac issues and they also have import. that could also be a trial | ||
| rohitnsit08 | hello | ||
| setting up github repo for corellaScript , sorry for the delay . | 20:38 | ||
| Coke_ | POI, we already have a launchpad site. | 20:39 | |
| cotto_work | an unused launchpad site though | ||
| Coke_ | POI, I will absolutely not be involved in any switch of issue tracking systems every again. | ||
| *ever | |||
| mikehh | Coke_: hey you did great work there | 20:40 | |
| cotto_work | lucian: I don't think we're ready to seriously consider a ticket migration, but it's good to know what's available. | 20:41 | |
| mikehh | if we ever do that sort of thing we need to automate it | ||
| cotto_work | mikehh: absolutely | 20:42 | |
| lucian | from what i've seen, lp and gh are both ok. anything else requires hosting | ||
| mikehh: i believe lp has both way sync, but i haven't used it | |||
| cotto_work | q1q | 20:43 | |
| mikehh | I have used it in terms of Ubuntu issues, but only as a user | ||
| dukeleto waves | 20:44 | ||
| lucian | mikehh: i meant the sync, the issue tracker itself is good (enough) | 20:45 | |
| mikehh | and of course, not related to Trac | ||
| cotto_work | does anyone have any other comments on the past week? | 20:47 | |
| Let's move to questions. | 20:48 | ||
| my question: I'd like to propose that we give soh_cah_toa a commit bit. | |||
| Do we have his CLA? | |||
| dukeleto | i am +1 to give him a bit. he has submitting a few patches already, correct? | 20:49 | |
| cotto_work | dukeleto: yes | ||
| Util | +1 # after CLA | ||
| cotto_work | there we go | ||
| Coke_ | mentor? | ||
| soh_cah_toa | woot | 20:50 | |
| cotto_work | I'm already mentoring him. | ||
| tcurtis | +1 | ||
| cotto_work | dukeleto: who is it who knows about our CLAs? | 20:51 | |
| dukeleto | cotto_work: particle | 20:53 | |
| cotto_work | particle: ping | ||
| dukeleto: ok. I thought someone else knew about those too. | |||
| particle | i'll check the mailbox today and let you know | ||
| dukeleto | cotto_work: he is the one who checks the PO box as well as legal@parrot.org, as far as I know | ||
| particle: welcome to the party | 20:54 | ||
| particle: we miss you ;) | |||
| particle | iirc legal@ forwards to parrot-directors@ | ||
| dukeleto | soh_cah_toa: how did you send your CLA? | ||
| NotFound | +1 for soh_cah_toa | ||
| dukeleto | i have a vague memory of seeing fly by via email, but that could be an overeager imagination | 20:55 | |
| soh_cah_toa | dukeleto: i'm pretty sure i emailed it to legal@parrot.org | ||
| mikehh | +1 also | ||
| cotto_work | dukeleto: ok. Once particle verifies, can you give him a commit bit? | ||
| are there any other questions or suggestions for goals? | 20:56 | ||
| mikehh | which of our GSoCers have commit bits? | 20:57 | |
| benabik | not me | 20:58 | |
| cotto_work | I think only bubaflub does. | ||
| dukeleto | benabik: i just gave you your bit! | ||
| benabik: sorry, it fell between the cracks | |||
| benabik | Whatnow? | 20:59 | |
| dukeleto | benabik: you sent in your CLA a while ago. Did we never have a vote? | ||
| benabik | I don't think so. | ||
| cotto_work | I vote +1 if we didn't. | ||
| and if we did, but it doesn't matter as much in that case | |||
| tcurtis does, but doesn't need one. | |||
| dukeleto | i am +1 to give benabik++ a bit | ||
| mikehh | 'k +1 for benabik | 21:00 | |
| Util | +1 | ||
| tcurtis | +1 | ||
| dukeleto | awesome. soh_cah_toa++ and benabik++ : use your new bits wisely, try not to break stuff, and have fun :) | ||
| cotto_work | good times | 21:01 | |
| dukeleto | looks like currently, GSoC students with commit bits: benabik++, soh_cah_toa++ and tadzik++ (who is a TPF gsoc student) | ||
| NotFound | +1 | ||
| cotto_work | whiteknight had a question | 21:02 | |
| "I would like to bundle a snapshot of Winxed in the Parrot repo. It's heavily used by our GSoC students and several of our core developers. It would be great for writing certain tools and tests in, where we use PIR now and would like something less bad." | |||
| dukeleto | benabik, soh_cah_toa : just to clarify, you have a bit to all the repos listed at github.com/organizations/parrot . Do good things. | ||
| soh_cah_toa | yay for me | 21:03 | |
| winxed in the repo would be nice | 21:04 | ||
| lucian nods | |||
| i've been bellyaching for a while now that no one should be writing assembly by hand | 21:05 | ||
| cotto_work | +1 from me | ||
| particle will be at yapc::na, and around on thursday | |||
| tadzik | winxed's code generator is so cool I don't see why one would want to write PIR by hand | ||
| NotFound | No problem for me. | ||
| cotto_work | particle: good deal | ||
| Util | +1 for winxed in repo | 21:06 | |
| NotFound | No positive vote because I'm partial. | ||
| mikehh | you would still need to build it, or would that be set up in the repo | 21:07 | |
| cotto_work | NotFound: how much work is it to 1) get an initial winxed snapshot in the repo and 2) update it as needed ? | ||
| lucian | i'd expect winxed to ship as .pir/.pbc | ||
| NotFound | cotto_work: very few work, the existing setup already does most of the work. | ||
| lucian | if building is still required, might as well pull the winxed repo | 21:08 | |
| cotto_work | I'd prefer what we do with nqp-rx so that nobody's tempted to directly update the snapshot. | ||
| NotFound | The better way will be to include the generated pir in the repo and create a pbc during build/install. | ||
| cotto_work | NotFound: +1 | 21:09 | |
| lucian | NotFound: +1 | ||
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| cotto_work | NotFound: can you start a branch? | 21:10 | |
| dukeleto | git submodules, what? | ||
| benabik, soh_cah_toa : twitter.com/#!/parrotvm/status/756...2892049408 | |||
| NotFound | Well, and building and installing the fakecutable for the driver, I suppose you want. | ||
| cotto_work: I'll do. | 21:11 | ||
| cotto_work | NotFound: great | ||
| I think that sufficiently answers whiteknight's question. | |||
| any other items for discussion? | 21:13 | ||
| lucian | uh, 6model if anyone's willing | 21:14 | |
| cotto_work | lucian: what about it? | ||
| lucian | i'm curious what people have been thinking on plans to integrate it | ||
| tadzik wanted to, but is going to sleep soon anyway | |||
| mikehh | What is the status of NQP/6Model related to parrot, I noticed some discussion in #parrot | ||
| tadzik | I wanted to pull out the issue of non-relocatable Rakudo, discussed this with pmichaud and looks like it's a Parrot issue | 21:15 | |
| dukeleto | there is only a ambiguous direction forward currently with 6model | ||
| cotto_work | tadzik: since your time is limited, let's address your question first. What's the issue? | ||
| mikehh | I seem to remember that chromatic had serious issues there, heven't seen him around much since then | 21:16 | |
| tadzik | cotto_work: the issue is that the location of the Rakudo installation has to be the one it was built in, or something of that sort | ||
| cotto_work | tadzik: is there a trac ticket? | 21:17 | |
| tadzik backlogs | |||
| cotto_work: no eye deer | |||
| irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2011-05-31#i_3833069 | |||
| I'll backlog #ps tomorrow, and will try to examine the issue and maybe open a trac ticket about it. That said, I'm out for today | 21:18 | ||
| cotto_work | tadzik: thanks | ||
| tadzik | also, this: Strona.PRZECIWNIK | ||
| bleh, paste fail | |||
| irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2011-05-31#i_3833117 | |||
| tadzik out | 21:19 | ||
| cotto_work | Alright. Let's move back to the 6model discussion. | 21:20 | |
| lucian | the earlier discussion in #parrot was long-term focused | 21:22 | |
| i was curious if anyone had looked at what could be done now | 21:23 | ||
| cotto_work | lucian: I'd love to see as much progress as possible on a plan for implementing 6model for Parrot and bringing it into core. | ||
| mikehh | what deprecation issues does it raise? | 21:24 | |
| cotto_work | mikehh: the intent is that we'll implement existing object semantics on top of 6model, so none. | ||
| It should be a transparent change for users. | 21:25 | ||
| lucian | cotto_work: this week i may investigate using 6model for puffin, i'll report any problems i find (besides lack of docs) | 21:26 | |
| cotto_work | lucian: great | ||
| lucian | i don't know too much about parrot though, so don't expect too much | ||
| cotto_work | the bigger our bus number for 6model, the better | ||
| benabik | lucian: jnthn added some docs about 6model to the NQP repo. | ||
| lucian | benabik: yes, i noticed. very helpful, but at least for me, not yet sufficient | ||
| mikehh | what about the issues chromatic raised a while back, as I said, haven't seen him around much since than | ||
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| mikehh | there is a repo on perl6 for nqpbook, but nothing in it yet | 21:28 | |
| cotto_work | dukeleto: are there any gsoc issues that need attention? | 21:30 | |
| Util | afk | ||
| dukeleto | cotto_work: i still need to skype with all students, other than that, I don't think so. | 21:31 | |
| cotto_work | dukeleto: great | 21:32 | |
| lucian | dukeleto: oh, didn't know that | ||
| dukeleto | lucian: email me your skype id and some times that would work for you :) duke@leto.net | 21:34 | |
| cotto_work | any other orders of business? | 21:36 | |
| Let's call it a wrap. Go forth and build awesome things! | 21:39 | ||
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