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| fperrad | Preposting | 12:51 | |
| * French Perl Workshop : prepare a talk about "Markdown on Parrot" | |||
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| pmichaud | I may be late/distracted during the normal meeting, so here's my report | 18:07 | |
| General: | |||
| * Rakudo now passing 11,475 spectests (+129 since last week) | |||
| * Worked on improved handling of stages in HLLCompiler (uncommitted) | |||
| * Fixing Rakudo to work from installed Parrot | |||
| * Provided suggestions for IO speed improvements | |||
| Other Rakudo stuff: | |||
| * Fixed .get and .lines on IO objects | |||
| * Corrected handling of $.methcall and $.methcall(args) | |||
| * Significant refactor/rewrite of postcircumfix:<[ ]> | |||
| * Updated Whatever handling, created WhateverCode | |||
| * Refactored assignment in terms of .STORE | |||
| * Added temporary .parse method to Perl6::Grammar | |||
| * Updated "module Foo;" (and S11) to allow statements before it | |||
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| cotto | hi | 18:30 | |
| masak | \\o/ | ||
| jonathan | hi | ||
| Tene | O HAI | ||
| allison | hi | ||
| chromatic | hello | ||
| Util | hello | ||
| NotFound | hola | 18:31 | |
| chromatic | allison? | ||
| Whiteknight | hello | ||
| barney | hi | ||
| jhorwitz | hello | ||
| allison | - I've been traveling since last week, which pretty much absorbed the week. Will be back on Wednesday. | ||
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| allison | - Also checked in all remaining changes to the pcc_rewiring branch. | 18:32 | |
| Whiteknight | allison++ | ||
| allison | - And nearly done with the final chapter of the neverending book. | ||
| EOR | |||
| chromatic | barney? | ||
| barney | Started to look into PHP extensions | ||
| Might have some time now, for hacking on Pipp | 18:33 | ||
| .eor | |||
| chromatic | making toast | ||
| removing the amount of evil in the world (memory leaks, bottlenecks) | |||
| working on the t/pmc/undef.t problem | |||
| still looking at Tcl/Rakudo/IMCC memory leaks | |||
| editing the neverending book | |||
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| chromatic | cotto? | 18:34 | |
| cotto | * finished coding and testing of a PCT-based vtable.tbl compiler for pmc_pct | ||
| * am working on getting pmcc to use it instead of the current (temporary) perl-generated code | |||
| .eor | |||
| chromatic | japhb? | ||
| jhorwitz? | 18:35 | ||
| jhorwitz | nothing to report today, just lurking. | ||
| chromatic | masak? | 18:36 | |
| masak | one-line report today: did more-than usual number of Rakudo commits, some Druid, proto, November and Web.pm hacking, 20 rakudobug tickets in the past two weeks. .eor | ||
| chromatic | moritz? | 18:37 | |
| jonathan? | |||
| jonathan | Rakudo | ||
| * Methods now all get a default *%_ is they didn't declare a slurpy hash themselves | |||
| * .^parents and .^methods now a lot less buggy; written and passing some 60+ new tests - we were very lacking in tests for those. Still not quite done, but getting there. | |||
| * Helped get mberends++ Temporal work into the setting | |||
| * Did some fixes to BUILD. It's actually useful now. | |||
| * Implicit return values from routines now get type checked. | |||
| * Did some work on figuring out what it would take to get us hll_map'ing MultiSub to Perl6MultiSub, and got a good handle on the problem. But lots to do yet. Will fix up various issues though. | |||
| * Fixed parsing bug so sub foo returns Cup of Coffee { } style constraints work | 18:38 | ||
| * Other little bits here and there. | |||
| Other | |||
| * I go on vacation on Friday, will be away and mostly if not entirely offline for ~ 2 weeks. Don't miss me too bad. | |||
| </report> | |||
| chromatic | NotFound? | ||
| NotFound | I've been migrating both my desktop and laptop systems. I think I fixed or cleaned something but don't remember %-) | ||
| EOR | |||
| chromatic | particle? | ||
| pmichaud? | 18:39 | ||
| Oh, he pre-pasted. | |||
| Tene? | |||
| Tene | * This list probably has more than just the past week. I'm kinda vague on time. | ||
| * More work on HLLs. | |||
| * HLL Library namespace importing for Rakudo and Cardinal. | 18:40 | ||
| * Got Partcl providing libraries (but not consuming yet). | |||
| * Defined a class in Cardinal, subclassed it in Rakudo, used it from Steme. | |||
| * Used a hacked-up version of Rakudo's HTTP::Daemon from Steme. | |||
| * Used Tags.pm and HTTP::Daemon.pm in Cardinal. | |||
| * Working on another blog post about this, but blocking on the next item: | |||
| * I currently get a segfault when trying to load Rakudo or Cardinal from Steme. It goes away when I disable GC. I tried debugging it, but failed badly. Posted a ticket. | |||
| * I looked into getting Pynie participating in this, but I'd need to get its class implementation up to speed first. | |||
| * Very busy with life over the past few weeks. Hopefully it will settle down after this coming weekend. | |||
| * I think I did some other things? I don't really remember. | |||
| KTHXBAI | |||
| chromatic | Util? | ||
| Util | * Converted 2 Debian Shootout benchmarks (binary-trees and fannkuch) to Perl 6. | ||
| * Tickets coming from shootout work: | |||
| * Found value-vs-container bug in Perl6's .push() . | |||
| * Found that Perl6's .splice() cannot act as .push() . | |||
| * Learned Git (again), to contribute the benchmarks to perl6-examples. [major time sink] | |||
| * No progress on Win32 pbc_to_exe. Trying again this week. | |||
| .eor | |||
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| chromatic | Whiteknight? | 18:41 | |
| Whiteknight | IO SYSTEM | 18:42 | |
| * Reworked IO branch to use base_type comparisons instead of abusing VTABLE_does, allison++ | |||
| * Benchmarked, IO-heavy tests ran 4x faster after replacing PCCINVOKEs for FileHandle | |||
| * Combined with Infinoid++'s work, we're seeing major speedups on IO-heavy programs, and major speedups on "make coretest". I can coretest in < 1 minute now. | |||
| * Merged io_rewiring branch into trunk, ping me if you see IO-related problems | |||
| * Busy with $real_life and $day_job and $contract_work, so am limited this week. | |||
| EOR | |||
| chromatic | CokeZero? | ||
| CokeZero | hio. | ||
| chromatic | Like IO but friendlier. | 18:43 | |
| CokeZero | Mostly work on partcl since last I was here; spec test is running again, trying to identify memory leaks, fix some small bugs. see the partcl blog. | ||
| won't be at YAPC. | |||
| would like to meta-discuss #ps for my q. | |||
| chromatic | Anyone else? | 18:44 | |
| darbelo | me | ||
| chromatic | go ahead | ||
| darbelo | .report decnum-dynpmcs :GSoC | ||
| * Eliminated all destination reuse in three arg ops. | |||
| * Started on decTest conversion. Can parse them now. | |||
| * Added a few more VTABLEs and METHODs to DecNum. | |||
| * Working on freeze() and thaw() now. | 18:45 | ||
| .end | |||
| chromatic | Questions! | ||
| Coke, go. | |||
| CokeZero, go? | 18:46 | ||
| CokeZero | Sure. | ||
| Was thinking that at least in addition to, perhaps instead of, we should encourage committers to blog their reports. | 18:47 | ||
| there's parrot.org, any committer should be able to post there; there's planet parrot, we can add someone's personal blog if we can restrict it to parrot-related entries. | |||
| chromatic | Seems sensible. | ||
| CokeZero | I think that'll get us more exposure, even within the community. | 18:48 | |
| blogs seem more visible than IRC backlog. | |||
| clinton | ++ | ||
| CokeZero | And then I don't have to feel guilty about not resurrecting TWIP. =_) | ||
| TimToady | .oO(but I read IRC more than I read blogs) |
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| CokeZero | TimToady: you're demonstrably wierd. | ||
| (no offense. it's quite endearing! =-) | |||
| Util | in_addition_to++ ; instead_of-- | 18:49 | |
| CokeZero | we can always repost the reports here. | ||
| Tene | I also read IRC far more than blogs. I'm fine posting to a blog, though. | ||
| CokeZero | and many of us here already do. | ||
| allison | CokeZero: +1 (on blogging, though also agreed on wierd (it's not a requirement for the job, but it helps)) | ||
| TimToady | we need a noblog to go with nopaste :) | ||
| allison | :) | 18:50 | |
| TimToady | I guess it'd actually be a yesblog though...not really symmetric | ||
| Tene | TimToady: want one written in Perl 6? | 18:51 | |
| NotFound | use blog; | ||
| TimToady | sorry, discussion always goes downhill when I join in... | ||
| chromatic | Yeah yeah, noncomitters derailing the meeting again. | ||
| masak | .oO( non-committal discussion ) |
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| chromatic | Other questions? | ||
| Who's doing the next release? | |||
| CokeZero | Whiteknight is on the docket. | 18:53 | |
| chromatic | Other questions? | 18:54 | |
| TimToady | any progress on profiling? | 18:55 | |
| chromatic | I've written up a plan of attack. I know cotto's interested in working on it too. | 18:56 | |
| Whiteknight | I'll send an email to the list about the release tonight | ||
| CokeZero | I'm interested in having it. Happy to volunteer some testing cycles. | ||
| allison | roadmap review? | 18:59 | |
| chromatic | Go ahead. | ||
| allison | From Tene's report it sounds like we're on track for export conventions and hll interop. | ||
| Tene++ | |||
| jhorwitz: what would you say is the state of pdd10 on extending/embedding? | 19:00 | ||
| jhorwitz: needs substantial work? needs some work? needs light editing? | |||
| chromatic | My guess is substantial work. | 19:01 | |
| It probably doesn't reflect calling convention changes. | |||
| allison | (jhorwitz may not be here any more, but he's had the most experience) | ||
| chromatic: yes, I suspect you're right | 19:02 | ||
| jhorwitz is on a con call... | |||
| allison | ah, thanks jhorwitz | ||
| so, let's call that one "at risk" for 1.3 | |||
| end of roadmap review | |||
| chromatic | Anything else? | 19:04 | |
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| chromatic | Okay, see you all in #parrot. | 19:05 | |
| TimToady brings on the liars, lions, and clowns | 19:06 | ||
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