Parrotsketch Every Tuesday @ 18:30 UTC | IRC Log at irclog.perlgeek.de/parrotsketch/today
Set by moderator on 24 May 2009.
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fperrad Preposting 12:51
* French Perl Workshop : prepare a talk about "Markdown on Parrot"
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pmichaud I may be late/distracted during the normal meeting, so here's my report 18:07
General:
* Rakudo now passing 11,475 spectests (+129 since last week)
* Worked on improved handling of stages in HLLCompiler (uncommitted)
* Fixing Rakudo to work from installed Parrot
* Provided suggestions for IO speed improvements
Other Rakudo stuff:
* Fixed .get and .lines on IO objects
* Corrected handling of $.methcall and $.methcall(args)
* Significant refactor/rewrite of postcircumfix:<[ ]>
* Updated Whatever handling, created WhateverCode
* Refactored assignment in terms of .STORE
* Added temporary .parse method to Perl6::Grammar
* Updated "module Foo;" (and S11) to allow statements before it
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cotto hi 18:30
masak \\o/
jonathan hi
Tene O HAI
allison hi
chromatic hello
Util hello
NotFound hola 18:31
chromatic allison?
Whiteknight hello
barney hi
jhorwitz hello
allison - I've been traveling since last week, which pretty much absorbed the week. Will be back on Wednesday.
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allison - Also checked in all remaining changes to the pcc_rewiring branch. 18:32
Whiteknight allison++
allison - And nearly done with the final chapter of the neverending book.
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chromatic barney?
barney Started to look into PHP extensions
Might have some time now, for hacking on Pipp 18:33
.eor
chromatic making toast
removing the amount of evil in the world (memory leaks, bottlenecks)
working on the t/pmc/undef.t problem
still looking at Tcl/Rakudo/IMCC memory leaks
editing the neverending book
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chromatic cotto? 18:34
cotto * finished coding and testing of a PCT-based vtable.tbl compiler for pmc_pct
* am working on getting pmcc to use it instead of the current (temporary) perl-generated code
.eor
chromatic japhb?
jhorwitz? 18:35
jhorwitz nothing to report today, just lurking.
chromatic masak? 18:36
masak one-line report today: did more-than usual number of Rakudo commits, some Druid, proto, November and Web.pm hacking, 20 rakudobug tickets in the past two weeks. .eor
chromatic moritz? 18:37
jonathan?
jonathan Rakudo
* Methods now all get a default *%_ is they didn't declare a slurpy hash themselves
* .^parents and .^methods now a lot less buggy; written and passing some 60+ new tests - we were very lacking in tests for those. Still not quite done, but getting there.
* Helped get mberends++ Temporal work into the setting
* Did some fixes to BUILD. It's actually useful now.
* Implicit return values from routines now get type checked.
* Did some work on figuring out what it would take to get us hll_map'ing MultiSub to Perl6MultiSub, and got a good handle on the problem. But lots to do yet. Will fix up various issues though.
* Fixed parsing bug so sub foo returns Cup of Coffee { } style constraints work 18:38
* Other little bits here and there.
Other
* I go on vacation on Friday, will be away and mostly if not entirely offline for ~ 2 weeks. Don't miss me too bad.
</report>
chromatic NotFound?
NotFound I've been migrating both my desktop and laptop systems. I think I fixed or cleaned something but don't remember %-)
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chromatic particle?
pmichaud? 18:39
Oh, he pre-pasted.
Tene?
Tene * This list probably has more than just the past week. I'm kinda vague on time.
* More work on HLLs.
* HLL Library namespace importing for Rakudo and Cardinal. 18:40
* Got Partcl providing libraries (but not consuming yet).
* Defined a class in Cardinal, subclassed it in Rakudo, used it from Steme.
* Used a hacked-up version of Rakudo's HTTP::Daemon from Steme.
* Used Tags.pm and HTTP::Daemon.pm in Cardinal.
* Working on another blog post about this, but blocking on the next item:
* I currently get a segfault when trying to load Rakudo or Cardinal from Steme. It goes away when I disable GC. I tried debugging it, but failed badly. Posted a ticket.
* I looked into getting Pynie participating in this, but I'd need to get its class implementation up to speed first.
* Very busy with life over the past few weeks. Hopefully it will settle down after this coming weekend.
* I think I did some other things? I don't really remember.
KTHXBAI
chromatic Util?
Util * Converted 2 Debian Shootout benchmarks (binary-trees and fannkuch) to Perl 6.
* Tickets coming from shootout work:
* Found value-vs-container bug in Perl6's .push() .
* Found that Perl6's .splice() cannot act as .push() .
* Learned Git (again), to contribute the benchmarks to perl6-examples. [major time sink]
* No progress on Win32 pbc_to_exe. Trying again this week.
.eor
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chromatic Whiteknight? 18:41
Whiteknight IO SYSTEM 18:42
* Reworked IO branch to use base_type comparisons instead of abusing VTABLE_does, allison++
* Benchmarked, IO-heavy tests ran 4x faster after replacing PCCINVOKEs for FileHandle
* Combined with Infinoid++'s work, we're seeing major speedups on IO-heavy programs, and major speedups on "make coretest". I can coretest in < 1 minute now.
* Merged io_rewiring branch into trunk, ping me if you see IO-related problems
* Busy with $real_life and $day_job and $contract_work, so am limited this week.
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chromatic CokeZero?
CokeZero hio.
chromatic Like IO but friendlier. 18:43
CokeZero Mostly work on partcl since last I was here; spec test is running again, trying to identify memory leaks, fix some small bugs. see the partcl blog.
won't be at YAPC.
would like to meta-discuss #ps for my q.
chromatic Anyone else? 18:44
darbelo me
chromatic go ahead
darbelo .report decnum-dynpmcs :GSoC
* Eliminated all destination reuse in three arg ops.
* Started on decTest conversion. Can parse them now.
* Added a few more VTABLEs and METHODs to DecNum.
* Working on freeze() and thaw() now. 18:45
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chromatic Questions!
Coke, go.
CokeZero, go? 18:46
CokeZero Sure.
Was thinking that at least in addition to, perhaps instead of, we should encourage committers to blog their reports. 18:47
there's parrot.org, any committer should be able to post there; there's planet parrot, we can add someone's personal blog if we can restrict it to parrot-related entries.
chromatic Seems sensible.
CokeZero I think that'll get us more exposure, even within the community. 18:48
blogs seem more visible than IRC backlog.
clinton ++
CokeZero And then I don't have to feel guilty about not resurrecting TWIP. =_)
TimToady
.oO(but I read IRC more than I read blogs)
CokeZero TimToady: you're demonstrably wierd.
(no offense. it's quite endearing! =-)
Util in_addition_to++ ; instead_of-- 18:49
CokeZero we can always repost the reports here.
Tene I also read IRC far more than blogs. I'm fine posting to a blog, though.
CokeZero and many of us here already do.
allison CokeZero: +1 (on blogging, though also agreed on wierd (it's not a requirement for the job, but it helps))
TimToady we need a noblog to go with nopaste :)
allison :) 18:50
TimToady I guess it'd actually be a yesblog though...not really symmetric
Tene TimToady: want one written in Perl 6? 18:51
NotFound use blog;
TimToady sorry, discussion always goes downhill when I join in...
chromatic Yeah yeah, noncomitters derailing the meeting again.
masak
.oO( non-committal discussion )
18:52
chromatic Other questions?
Who's doing the next release?
CokeZero Whiteknight is on the docket. 18:53
chromatic Other questions? 18:54
TimToady any progress on profiling? 18:55
chromatic I've written up a plan of attack. I know cotto's interested in working on it too. 18:56
Whiteknight I'll send an email to the list about the release tonight
CokeZero I'm interested in having it. Happy to volunteer some testing cycles.
allison roadmap review? 18:59
chromatic Go ahead.
allison From Tene's report it sounds like we're on track for export conventions and hll interop.
Tene++
jhorwitz: what would you say is the state of pdd10 on extending/embedding? 19:00
jhorwitz: needs substantial work? needs some work? needs light editing?
chromatic My guess is substantial work. 19:01
It probably doesn't reflect calling convention changes.
allison (jhorwitz may not be here any more, but he's had the most experience)
chromatic: yes, I suspect you're right 19:02
jhorwitz is on a con call...
allison ah, thanks jhorwitz
so, let's call that one "at risk" for 1.3
end of roadmap review
chromatic Anything else? 19:04
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chromatic Okay, see you all in #parrot. 19:05
TimToady brings on the liars, lions, and clowns 19:06
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