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| kid51 | kid51's report | 11:08 | |
| * Tried to close several old tickets. | |||
| * trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1255: PARROT_EXPORT visibility in gcc 3.3: will close tomorrow unless someone objects. | |||
| * trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1725: headerizer.pl documentation: will close tomorrow unless someone objects. | |||
| * trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1751: links to DEPRECATED.pod: ticket opened by Paul_the_Greek; made small changes, had discussion | |||
| * trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/677: what should go in tools/dev/, tools/build/, etc?: developing proposal; please see ticket. | |||
| * trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1750: packfile testing problems on Darwin/PPC: still befuddled; sometimes tests pass, sometimes they don't | |||
| * Posted comments in several tickets owned by mikehh and others stating that I thought such tickets were now closable. | 11:09 | ||
| EOR | |||
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| mikehh | What I did since my last report: | 18:30 | |
| * released parrot 2.7.0 | |||
| - my daughter-in-law had a stroke (fortunately mild) on Sunday night (15th) | |||
| - this resulted my missing most of Monday and Tuesday before the release | |||
| - I got everything ready after #ps last week, somehow managed to overwrite | |||
| - the NEWS I had been keeping updated and had to re-create it from scratch, | |||
| - but after making the changes had a test failure in t/pmc/threads.t | |||
| - (not in trunk, just the release directory) I eventually committed what I | |||
| - had got to see if anyone else had the problem. I then did a clean checkout | |||
| - to a new directory and that passed all tests. Still have not worked out | |||
| - what the problem was. Tagged the release and with help from cotto++ got it | |||
| - up on the site. Put a release notice on Parrot.org then, being totally | |||
| - exhausted had to get some sleep. When I woke up, I posted other notices, | |||
| - not sure if I got everything, or if I missed anything. The rest of the | |||
| - week was a complete write-off, getting family business sorted. | |||
| - Only managed to get back to building and testing parrot today. | |||
| - (excuse the long post - just had to rant/comment a bit) | |||
| * building and testing parrot on amd64/i386, with gcc/g++ | |||
| * some fixes | |||
| What I intend to do in the next week: | |||
| * what I intended to do last week | |||
| * work on html_cleanup branch | |||
| * testing and fixing | |||
| .eor | |||
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| nwellnhof | What I did | 18:57 | |
| * got my commit bit | |||
| * started to hang out on #parrot | 18:58 | ||
| * finished my GC timing fixes | |||
| * fixed some GC leaks | |||
| * optimized hash access | 18:59 | ||
| * closed TT#1603, #1465, #945, #1121 and #1737 | 19:00 | ||
| Plans/ideas | |||
| * distinction between charset and encoding for strings doesn't make sense | 19:02 | ||
| - they could be merged which would simplify the code | |||
| * hash cloning could be optimized by storing bucket indices instead of bucket pointers in hashes | 19:03 | ||
| EOR | |||
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| whiteknight | WHAT I DID: | 19:20 | |
| * Still working on PLA. | |||
| * Improved support for BLAS (including support for the reference version written in Fortran) | |||
| * Adding support for LAPACK, looking for a sane way to add an interface to it without going overboard in bloat | |||
| * Ran into a problem in distutils (#1755) that makes life a little harder | |||
| * Following along with all the activity in GC and Hash code. +1 on everybody's effort! | |||
| WHAT I WILL DO: | |||
| * Continue work on PLA to get LAPACK bindings up and working | |||
| ROADBLOCKS: | |||
| * None | |||
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| cotto_work | #done: | 19:28 | |
| - good progress on the github plugin | |||
| - can detect links (git and svn) and redirect them to github correctly | |||
| - stub tooltip support (will expand shortly) | |||
| - co-conspirator: dafrito++ for bugfixes and a testing tool | 19:29 | ||
| - trac-- for having a strange and unclearly documented plugin interface | |||
| - I should have something to play with by next #ps | |||
| - code is at github.com/cotto/github-trac | |||
| #hope to: | |||
| - finish the github plugin, set up a test site to show how it works | |||
| #eor | |||
| Coke | Did: hacked on partcl-nqp, some TT (parrot) and RT (rakudo) chasing. Will miss #ps this week due to work. | 19:30 | |
| will: hack on partcl-nqp. | 19:31 | ||
| .eor | |||
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| plobsing | ~ What I Did: | 19:49 | |
| * not much (no internet access for a while) | 19:50 | ||
| * a couple rakudo startup improvements | |||
| What I Plan: | |||
| * more rakudo startup speedups | |||
| * eliminate costly collision checking in hash thaw | |||
| * manipulate packfiles more efficiently in imageio | |||
| * land gsoc_nci branch | |||
| EOR | |||
| dukeleto | What I did: | 19:59 | |
| * Worked on parrot github mirror. I now have a MooseX::Runnable app that will sync | |||
| all svn branches to github, created new git tags from svn tags and remove dead | |||
| branches from github when they are deleted from svn. Still needs some docs, | |||
| and could be abstracted for other projects, but this is what it looks like now: | |||
| github.com/leto/Util/blob/master/pe.../Parrot.pm | |||
| * Did GSoC stuff | |||
| * Tried to close some tickets | 20:00 | ||
| * Worked on PL/Parrot. Running into this coredump gist.github.com/546982 | |||
| on this PL/Parrot branch: github.com/leto/plparrot/tree/global_grammar | |||
| * Gave a talk about PL/Parrot at PDXPUG, slides : | |||
| github.com/leto/presentations/raw/m...G/pres.pdf | |||
| What I will do: | |||
| * Setup the parrot github mirror so that it is run from feather or some other server. | |||
| Currently I am running it manually to make sure it does not set things on fire. | |||
| * Stuff | |||
| Blocking on: | |||
| * IRL | |||
| .EOR | |||
| tcurtis | What I did: | 20:04 | |
| * Not much Parrot-wise. | |||
| * Tried unsuccessfully to switch IO.readall to use a StringBuilder. | |||
| * Blog post shortly. | |||
| * Relaxed a bit after GSoC. | |||
| What I will do: | 20:05 | ||
| * Upload GSoC tarball to googlecode. | |||
| * Hopefully work on tree-optimization some. | |||
| EOR | |||
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| cotto_work | helol | 20:30 | |
| mikehh | hi there | ||
| tcurtis | Hi. | ||
| dukeleto | hola hola hola (oatmeal and granola) | ||
| nwellnhof | hi everyone | ||
| cotto_work | dukeleto: can you lead this thing? | 20:31 | |
| dukeleto | cotto_work: yeah | 20:32 | |
| Welcome to the weekly Parrot Dev meeting. Please buckle up. | |||
| mikehh | click click | 20:33 | |
| dukeleto | so how did we do on our goals for the week? I am pretty sure we closed more than 13 tickets | ||
| cotto_work | That was a good goal. We should try it again. | ||
| mikehh | yes - gotta a couple to close still | ||
| nwellnhof | But this time *everyone* closes 13 tickets ;) | 20:34 | |
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| particle | you first. | 20:35 | |
| nwellnhof | just kidding | ||
| NotFound | Sorry, will report later. | ||
| dukeleto | anybody have any comments about what we accomplished in the last week? critiques or condemnations? | ||
| particle | dafrito's cla arrived. | ||
| cotto_work | good news there | 20:36 | |
| particle | have we "accomplished" the vote for the parrot board? | ||
| dukeleto | voting is open until the end of the month | ||
| mikehh | I think smash was working on that | ||
| particle | oh, right, i forgot it's another week still. | 20:37 | |
| vote early, vote often! | |||
| cotto_work | Should there be something on parrot.org about that? | ||
| particle | seems like a newsworthy item, indeed. | 20:38 | |
| would you mind contacting smash about that? | 20:39 | ||
| cotto_work | np | ||
| dukeleto will tell @parrotvm/!parrot about the board election as well | 20:41 | ||
| let's talk about which goals we want for this week | 20:42 | ||
| mikehh | maybe to the list as well | ||
| dukeleto | anything critical that we should all know about? | ||
| nwellnhof | i have some plans for the string subsystem | 20:43 | |
| i think the current distinction between charsets and encodings doesn't make sense | 20:44 | ||
| mikehh | the g++ build is broke at the moment, dunno how critical that is | ||
| nwellnhof | charsets and encodings should be merged IMO | 20:45 | |
| dukeleto | nwellnhof: that sounds like you should make an RFC ticket and email parrot-dev about it | ||
| mikehh: that is critical as well | |||
| mikehh | darbelo has been working on that | ||
| nwellnhof | dukeleto: ok | ||
| mikehh | charsets and encodings that is | 20:46 | |
| NotFound | mikehh: I'll take a look at the c++ as soon as possible | ||
| mikehh | NotFound: tried fixing it but got more broken | ||
| dukeleto | looks like we closed 14 tickets this past week, according to trac.parrot.org/parrot/query?status...changetime | 20:47 | |
| nwellnhof | didn't plobsing fix the g++ build 65 minutes ago? | ||
| dukeleto | i think trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1746 needs more eyes as well. Segfaults from Rakudo means a deep bug. | 20:48 | |
| plobsing | nwellnhof: I thought I did | ||
| mikehh | might have done - haven't tested yet | ||
| dukeleto | Shall we make our goal for the week to close 20 tickets? Is that reasonable? | 20:49 | |
| cotto_work | +1 | ||
| dukeleto | we have 676 open tickets | ||
| tcurtis | +1 | ||
| nwellnhof | but not all of the open tickets are bugs | 20:50 | |
| NotFound | r48638 builds for me | ||
| dukeleto | nwellnhof: yes, you are correct. And not all bugs have tickets :) | ||
| closing 20 tickets would mean closing about 3% of our tickets in one week, which is a nice goal | 20:51 | ||
| do we want to make a stipulation that a few important TT's should be included in that 20, or make it any 20? | |||
| nwellnhof | we have 305 open bug tickets | ||
| 149 todo | 20:52 | ||
| cotto_work | dukeleto: narrowing down the scope might make it easier to pick a ticket and run with it | ||
| dukeleto | cotto_work: sure. how do you want to narrow the scope? | ||
| NotFound | Some todo should be rfc | ||
| cotto_work | no useful idea | ||
| NotFound | But usually no one comments on rft, so it doesn't matter %-) | 20:53 | |
| s/rft/rfc | |||
| dukeleto | I think we should concentrate on closing open bug tickets, but I think lowering the total number of open TT's is a good thing. 676 open tickets is ... a lot. | ||
| NotFound: i hear ya. Maybe we need a better-defined RFC process. | 20:54 | ||
| NotFound | dukeleto: we can create an RFC to discuss that X-) | ||
| dukeleto | nwellnhof: so how about "Close 20 TT's this week, concentrating on open bug tickets" ? Sound reasonable? | ||
| ERECURSIVERFCPROCESS | 20:55 | ||
| nwellnhof | +1 | ||
| dukeleto | ok, we have a goal for the week. | ||
| cotto_work | FWIW, I'd be glad to help anyone who wants to help hack on the github trac plugin set up a test environment. | ||
| dukeleto | cotto_work: i can help on the front where the trac plugin needs to talk to the github mirror | ||
| So, i think we are now at the quiz-show portion of the meeting. Questions? | 20:56 | ||
| mikehh | anything happened with smolder? | 20:57 | |
| dukeleto | i haven't heard anything. last i heard, particle was talkign to OSU folks | ||
| tcurtis++ # blog posts much appreciated | 20:58 | ||
| The smolder situation is ... suboptimal. | 20:59 | ||
| nwellnhof | what's the deal with smolder? | 21:00 | |
| dukeleto | our current smolder server is down. this means that "make smoke" has nowhere to post test reports | 21:01 | |
| this makes people sad | |||
| nwellnhof | i see | ||
| dukeleto | we may need to look into other options for receiving test reports | ||
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| dukeleto | wouldn't it be nice if we can something piggyback onto CPANtesters or something? | 21:02 | |
| s/something/somehow/ | |||
| having to run our own server to accept test results requires maintenance | |||
| mikehh | smoke/smolder allows us to look at problems on other platforms than your own | 21:05 | |
| dukeleto | I think we should bring this issue to parrot-dev and continue with the meeting, though. | ||
| Any other questions? | |||
| mikehh | taptinder is of use there but it is x86 - 32 and 64 bit only | 21:06 | |
| dukeleto | taptinder is saving our feathers right now. Without taptinder, we would be running blindly. | 21:07 | |
| mikehh | sure, but we need test results from other platforms, including sparc, arm and power | ||
| dukeleto | I think we should talk about git and github a bit. As a community, which features of github do we want to use? | 21:08 | |
| mikehh: agreed. Everyone wants more tests on more platforms. | |||
| nwellnhof | does anyone regurlarly test on windows? | 21:09 | |
| i think there are a lot of windows related tickets | |||
| mikehh | taptinder does | ||
| tt.taptinder.org/ | 21:10 | ||
| nwellnhof | trac.parrot.org/parrot/search?ticke...;q=windows | ||
| mikehh | it runs builds/tests whenever there is a new revision | 21:11 | |
| dukeleto | anything else that needs to be talked about in #ps, or shall we go back to #parrot ? | 21:12 | |
| mikehh | we were going to look at git and github? | ||
| dukeleto | I think #ps is the right place to talk about what we want to accomplish this week regarding converting to git, but this is not the place for extensive discussions. Those are for #parrot and parrot-dev | 21:13 | |
| cotto_work: can you give a quick status report on your github trac plugin and what we can expect in the next week? | 21:14 | ||
| cotto_work: does it talk to the parrot github mirror ? | |||
| I think we should close this #ps and take other questions to #parrot and parrot-dev. Good luck to everyone in our quest to close 20 tickets! | 21:19 | ||
| dukeleto goes back to #parrot | |||
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