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| kid51 | kid51's report | 13:19 | |
| * My direct work led to closing of these tickets: | |||
| ** TT #1922 review 'make help' output | |||
| ** TT #1934 coding stds for Python files | 13:20 | ||
| * Cage cleaning led to closing of these tickets: | |||
| ** TT #1123 make test errors on OS X 10.6.1 | |||
| ** TT #30 make shared libparrot work with already installed shared libparrot | |||
| ** TT #1873 Win2K version requirement impeded build | |||
| ** TT #540 installed versions of dynext/*.so still link to -lparrot in build dir | |||
| ** TT #1392 build parrot failed on CentOS | |||
| * Additional posting on parrot.org re upcoming Parrot Developer Summit; we need to decide exact day and time ASAP | |||
| * Testing on various branches | 13:21 | ||
| EOR | |||
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| cotto_work | *did: | 19:50 | |
| - started working with fbrito++ to get his github post-receive script ready for prime time | |||
| -- needs a bit of deployment-related work, eta depends on tuits | |||
| -- dukeleto++ moved it into a separate repo and volunteered to add a Build.PL | |||
| - talked with kid51++ about PDS and the state of Parrot in general | |||
| -- should probably blog about that too | |||
| - rfc review, closing tickets | |||
| - started a doodle poll for PDS scheduling | |||
| -- doodle.com/4phzuaiahkgd3ie5 | |||
| -- If you want to participate, add your availability now. | |||
| -- We'll figure out a final time at #ps today. | |||
| - worked on roadmap goals; atrodo and I will be working on M0 (spec and prorotype) for 3.3 | |||
| -- others are welcome, as always | |||
| *will do: | |||
| - more rfc review, more ticket closing | |||
| - PDS | |||
| - finalize roadmap goal(s) for 3.3 for PDS | |||
| *blockers: | |||
| - none | |||
| *eor | |||
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| tcurtis | I finally found a little time to look into the test failure in tree-optimization. Haven't discovered the root cause, but I've figured out how it's failing and opened a ticket on issue on the github repo to remind myself to look into it further. | 19:58 | |
| I plan to look into the bug further and fix it. | |||
| eor | |||
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| mikehh | What I did since my last report: | 20:07 | |
| * unfortunately not that much done due to $work pressure | |||
| * building and testing parrot on amd64/i386, with gcc/g++ | |||
| * some fixes | |||
| What I intend to do in the next week: | |||
| * testing and fixing | |||
| * prepare for next release (Feb 15 - 3.1) | |||
| .eor | |||
| dukeleto merged the ipv6 branch (rakudo has it already) and will be a bit late to #ps | 20:16 | ||
| Util | # Done and doing: | 20:21 | |
| * Working with Coverity to update scans from new GitHub repo. | |||
| .end | |||
| whiteknight | WHAT I DID: | 20:24 | |
| * Working like a madman on IMCC cleanup. Juggling several branches right now to pursue concurrent goals | |||
| WHAT I WILL DO: | |||
| * More IMCC. | |||
| EOR | |||
| plobsing | What I Did: | 20:28 | |
| * dead cruft elimination | |||
| * annotations-tree branch (improves annotation lookup time complexity) | |||
| What I Plan: | |||
| * more annotations work (eg: syntax for PMC annotations) | 20:29 | ||
| * experiment with annotation-based exception-handlers | |||
| * packfile stuff | |||
| EOR | |||
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| cotto_work | hello | 20:30 | |
| tadzik | hello | ||
| plobsing | o/ | ||
| kid51 | hello | ||
| allison | hi | 20:31 | |
| tadzik | my one-liner: Worked on a last week's goal (Deprecations as Data), work pushed to a branch, TT updated | ||
| Coke | ~~ | ||
| mikehh | hi there | ||
| Util | Hello | ||
| whiteknight | hello | 20:32 | |
| kid51 | OMG 9 people already present and participating! Let's rock and roll! | 20:33 | |
| cotto_work: You chairing? | |||
| cotto_work | sure. got distracted momentarily | 20:34 | |
| How'd we do on our goals last week? | |||
| Deprecations as Data got a decent start. | |||
| tcurtis | Hi. | ||
| cotto_work | Did anyone look at false test failures or skipped tests? | 20:35 | |
| kid51 | I did not. | 20:36 | |
| mikehh | naw, too much $work pressure | ||
| cotto_work | I don't think too much got added to the test aggregator wishlist either. | 20:37 | |
| mikehh | need to do it this week | ||
| cotto_work | merging and dealing with the fallout seems to have gone well. | 20:38 | |
| Coke | looks like mj41++ resurrected ttbot (which already caught some win32 failures) | 20:39 | |
| cotto_work | we need more of that | ||
| any thoughts before we move on to questions? | 20:41 | ||
| Alright. Let's move to PDS scheduling. | 20:43 | ||
| or questions, but I didn't see any queued. | 20:44 | ||
| Coke | having stuff like the ipv6 break master is annoying. | ||
| *merge | |||
| (but not annoying enough for me to throw any tuits at it.) | 20:45 | ||
| cotto_work | How well-tested was that before it got merged? | ||
| mikehh | well there are a bunch of codetest failures | 20:47 | |
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| mikehh | fixed but not committed yet | 20:47 | |
| NotFound | Sorry | ||
| kid51 | Was the ipv6 thing a branch merge -- or simply an application of a patch? | ||
| mikehh | according to dukeletto it was a branch and already in rakudo | 20:48 | |
| kid51 | From duke's message to parrot-dev it appears it was a pull from some other repository directly into master. | 20:49 | |
| ... which implies it wasn't really tested in parrot very much. | |||
| cotto_work | That merge could have been done more carefully. I'd prefer to have it in a branch of parrot/parrot for longer before merging. | 20:50 | |
| kid51 | That message being the first here: groups.google.com/group/parrot-dev/...58f99ac1d# | ||
| Okay. Is someone already on the cases where it's generating failures in master? | 20:51 | ||
| whiteknight was reporting failures on Win32 | 20:52 | ||
| cotto_work | Let's make those a goal for the week then. | ||
| Code review on the merge would be good too. I'm sure it could use as many eyeballs as the brains behind them have tuits. | 20:53 | ||
| Util | cotto_work: true in general, but in this case I think this issue is a .h not included, which would only show up in Win32 testing. | 20:55 | |
| cotto_work | any other thoughts before we move to PDS scheduling? | 20:56 | |
| mikehh | couple of branches seem ready to merge | 20:57 | |
| dukeleto is back | |||
| whiteknight | imcc_interfaces needs some fixing, which I will do tonight | 20:58 | |
| plobsing's annotations branch needs testing | |||
| cotto_work | I'll be looking at that one. | ||
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| dukeleto | kid51: the ipv6 branch merge was a branch that has been in parrot.git since around november | 21:02 | |
| kid51 | dukeleto: But if the crucial patch didn't arrive until just recently, then the branch as a whole might not have been sufficiently tested. | 21:03 | |
| Was that the case? If not, why was the branch hanging around so long? | 21:04 | ||
| cotto_work | As far as PDS scheduling, 1000 PST would be great if it didn't exclude some Australia and Asia folks. The next best slot seems to be 1400 PST on Saturday. | ||
| dukeleto | kid51: the original patch author picked up where i left off and made "make test" pass on his machine and mine | ||
| and rather then let the branch get stale again (because he had to deal with a good amount of merge conflicts), i merged | 21:05 | ||
| kid51 | cotto_work: Well, as I have previously indicated, I would like to accommodate JimmyZ and bacek this time if possible. | ||
| dukeleto | i figured it was early enough in this dev cycle that we were still in our "merge-athon" phase | ||
| cotto_work | dukeleto: I think that that was the right decision, though perhaps I'd have given a day or two warning before merging. Anyway, I'm glad it's in master. | 21:06 | |
| dukeleto | Also, I started proto-hacking on Jaspers, Javascript on Parrot : github.com/leto/jaspers | 21:07 | |
| kid51 | PDS scheduling? | ||
| nwellnhof | has anyone actually looked at the IPv6 branch? there's still some work to be done to integrate it cleanly. | ||
| dukeleto | cotto_work: duly noted. I should have asked for some more testing on parrot-dev | ||
| nwellnhof: i did. what do you mean "integrate it cleanly" ? | 21:08 | ||
| nwellnhof | have a look at what Parrot_io_connect_handle does, for example. that's a giant hack to somehow get it work. | ||
| i can fix all that, but i'd prefer to do that in a separate branch. | 21:11 | ||
| dukeleto | nwellnhof: so can you create a branch to refactor and make our ipv6 saner? that would be awesome | ||
| nwellnhof: i agree, there are some hacks in there. I thought that it was enough of a starting point to go in and it would attract ipv6 people from outside parrot | 21:12 | ||
| nwellnhof | is the windows build still broken? | ||
| dukeleto | i saw many commits that said there were partial fixes, but i am not sure | 21:13 | |
| i guess we should mark ipv6 support as experimental, as well | |||
| cotto_work | That'd be a good idea. | ||
| dukeleto | do we have a YAML version of deprecated.pod yet? | 21:14 | |
| i haven't done the conversion | |||
| i think we can continue ipv6 talk in #parrot. what else needs talkin' about? | 21:15 | ||
| cotto_work | We need to finalize the PDS time, though kid51seem to have ducked out. | ||
| whiteknight | we can do that on the list tonight and tomorrow | ||
| dukeleto | what about the content of PDS? has that been hammered out? | ||
| whiteknight: works for me | |||
| tadzik | dukeleto: I can generate yaml instead/in addition to json | 21:16 | |
| dukeleto | tadzik: please! i beg you... | ||
| tadzik | no problem :) | ||
| dukeleto | tadzik: so we can start using deps as data | ||
| whiteknight | I'm going to be sending proposals for two roadmap items to discuss to the list within the next day or two | ||
| tadzik | (I'd prefer JSON anyway) | ||
| whiteknight | if people want to talk about other topics, I suggest they do the same | ||
| kid51 is here | |||
| cotto_work | wb | ||
| tadzik | didn't know this was a blocker | 21:17 | |
| kid51 | whiteknight++ for posting about roadmap items | 21:18 | |
| dukeleto | tadzik: YAML is easier for humans | ||
| tadzik | si | ||
| dukeleto | tadzik: we can provide json generated from yaml if people really want that | ||
| cotto_work | humans++ | ||
| dukeleto | tadzik: and i want to make a web interface to the dep data, if you are interested in that, let me know | ||
| goals? | 21:19 | ||
| tadzik | dukeleto: maybe after my finals | 21:20 | |
| cotto_work | I'd like to propose 1400 PST for the PDS. | ||
| dukeleto | tadzik: cool. buena suerte! | ||
| cotto_work: which day? | |||
| kid51 | 1400 PST = 1700 EST (5:00pm NYC) works4me | ||
| cotto_work | Saturday | ||
| tadzik | wklej.org/id/464587/ -- does it look good? | 21:21 | |
| whiteknight | is that good for people in other hemisphers? | 21:22 | |
| I know that was a focal point | |||
| kid51 | It will be earlyish Sunday morning for bacek | ||
| feasible | |||
| cotto_work | He listed it as "if needed" | 21:23 | |
| kid51 | less good for China/India/Middle East | ||
| late Saturday evening for Europe | |||
| but there is no time that will please everyone | |||
| cotto_work | nope | ||
| mikehh | 22:00 for me, but ok | 21:24 | |
| kid51 | What does that translate to in UTC? | 21:25 | |
| 2200 UTC Sat Jan 29, I believe | |||
| mikehh | that's me - GMT eq UTC | 21:26 | |
| dukeleto | tadzik: i like it. if it is valid yaml, please commit to the branch | ||
| cotto_work | any final goals for the week? | ||
| here's what I have: | |||
| GOAL 1: fix ipv6 merge-related failures, review code (all) | |||
| GOAL 2: test branches - imcc_interfaces (whiteknight), annotations-tree (cotto) | |||
| GOAL 3: PDS prep - roadmap goals (kid51, dukeleto, cotto, whiteknight) | |||
| GOAL 4: concerns to address before 3.3 in April (all) | |||
| tadzik | dukeleto: it's YAML.pm generated, so I guess it's valid | ||
| whiteknight | looks good to me | ||
| dukeleto | cotto_work: tree-optimization tuits | ||
| kid51 | cotto_work: like whiteknight said ... | ||
| whiteknight | I say a lot of things | 21:27 | |
| cotto_work | dukeleto: good one. | ||
| dukeleto even listens sometimes | |||
| kid51 must now refocus on $job | |||
| cotto_work | GOAL 5: fix tree-optimization test failure, increase bus number | ||
| any volunteers for that last one? | |||
| mikehh | just remember we have the next release on 15 Feb | 21:28 | |
| tadzik | DEPRECATED.yaml pushed | ||
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| whiteknight has to duck out and head home. later | 21:28 | ||
| cotto_work | let's call it a wrap | ||
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| dukeleto | tadzik++ | 21:28 | |
| good meeting! | |||
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