Zoffix .text of privmsg/notice events is mutable, but I've not explored how well it works or had any need to mutate anything yet 00:01
timotimo right
Zoffix There's .emit and .emit-custom in the design spec for emitting events, but I've not done anything yet there, due to lack of usecases.
timotimo and things like "turn all bot messages into swedish chef english" would better be a filter 00:02
would it be allowed to have the message passed into an "is rw" parameter?
that article reads very well 00:03
and the module seems good
great job!
AlexDaniel Zoffix: I have a question! 01:25
Zoffix: or a feature request, I'm not sure yet 01:26
Zoffix: looking at this: “It's not uncommon for a bot command to take some time to execute. In those cases, we don't want the bot to lock up while the command is doing its thing.”
Zoffix: OK, what if I want to write multiple messages?
Zoffix: Something like: “OK, doing what you asked me to do”… “Still working on it, hang on!”… “OK DONE!” 01:27
Zoffix Use $.irc.send 01:29
AlexDaniel Zoffix: right in irc-to-me? 01:31
Zoffix method irc-privmsg-channel ($e) { start { sleep 2; $.irc.send: :where($e.channel) :text('OK, doing what you asked me to do'); sleep 2; $.irc.send: :where($e.channel) :text('Still working on it, hang on!'); sleep 3; $.irc.send: :where($e.channel) :text('OK DONE!'); Nil; } }
AlexDaniel ah ok 01:32
Zoffix Probably doing $e.reply: 'message....'; will work too
AlexDaniel Zoffix: for some reason I was thinking that if I sleep for long periods of time in irc-privmsg-channel it will hang the bot
Zoffix method irc-privmsg-channel ($e) { start { sleep 2; $e.reply: 'OK, doing what you asked me to do'; sleep 2; $e.reply: 'Still working on it, hang on!'; sleep 3; $.e.reply: 'OK DONE!'; } }
It won't hang 'cause it's inside the start {} 01:33
AlexDaniel aaah
timotimo it'd be kinda neat if a filter could also know what message/event triggered a reply, so that for channels with an [off] marker it could also include the [off] marker in every bit of output
but that seems like it'd require a bit of cooperation from plugin authors to work
which means it'd never work
Zoffix Interesting. Useless use of "not " in expression "not ($slurp_p and $slurp_n)" in sink context (line 7590) 03:04
At stage optimize 03:05
Oh, it's my $need_cap = $sig.count == Inf and not ($slurp_p and $slurp_n);. I think TimToady pointed that out a bit ago 03:06
m: use Test; throws-like { grep $_ == 1, 1,2,3 }, X::Match::Bool 03:08
camelia rakudo-moar 22949d: OUTPUT« 1..2␤Use of uninitialized value of type Any in numeric context in block at <tmp> line 1␤ ok 1 - code dies␤ ok 2 - right exception type (X::Match::Bool)␤ok 1 - did we throws-like X::Match::Bool?␤»
dalek ast: 896d43f | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S32-list/grep.t:
.grep propagates .is-lazy

RT#128773		 03:09
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Displa...?id=128773
MasterDuke i noticed that today also. and additionally, my parse times have gone up a bit, from the high 50s to the high 60s-low 70s 03:10
Zoffix Mine too. It hovered around 60 and now it's at 66 03:11
dalek kudo/nom: 32f341b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | src/core/Block.pm:
Fix conditional with incorrect precedence
 03:23
ast: 671baf4 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S32-list/grep.t:
Avoid spurious warnings in output
 03:27
kudo/nom: 15ee3c3 | lizmat++ | src/core/Any-iterable-methods.pm:
Fix for RT #128779 and RT #126921

Sorry it took so long to fix: this one definitely slipped through the cracks :-(		 09:51
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Displa...?id=128779
Link: rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Displa...?id=126921
lizmat re slower compile times: I think I will have to concur, looking at my latest "cold" spectest result: 10:11
Files=1112, Tests=52514, 238 wallclock secs (13.65 usr 4.10 sys + 1452.07 cusr 124.32 csys = 1594.14 CPU)
there are 3 more files, and 76 more tests, but the previous low was 225 wallclock / 1535 CPU 10:12
Zoffix giggles at comments on www.reddit.com/r/programming/comme...ome_async/ 10:42
People think :from<Perl5> uses a Perl 5 compiler in Rakudo :) nine++ 10:43
"In theory it should be though, as you can define a grammar for Perl 5 and make a Perl 5 compiler in Perl 6 that would work like this." 10:45
tadzik may be worth pointing them to FROGGS++'s v5 10:46
Zoffix This is my evolution of parse times: gist.github.com/zoffixznet/b11127c...051d4b1871 10:57
m: say "{(47.491 - 44.624)/47.491*100}% slower" 10:58
camelia rakudo-moar 15ee3c: OUTPUT«6.036933% slower␤»
Zoffix 44-45s being what I normally had in the past
nine Zoffix: am I understanding this correctly? You run the Perl 5 code on a different thread? 11:15
Zoffix nine, yeah, it runs in a start{} block
nine And it works? 11:16
Zoffix Seems to
nine Awesome :)
jnthn Zoffix++ # nice article :) 11:26
Zoffix Thanks.
jnthn Also nice use of async stuffs. :) Seeing people do neat stuff with them helps motivate me to spend the tedious hours hunting/fixing the instabilities in them. :) 11:39
lizmat m: say 255/238; say 1594/1535 # concurring roughly with slowdown in parsing that Zoffix calculated 11:40
camelia rakudo-moar 15ee3c: OUTPUT«1.071429␤1.038436␤»
lizmat Zoffix: s/procrastenator/procrastinator/ 11:42
Zoffix Thanks. Fixed. 11:44
dalek ast: 9697a3b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S32-list/sort.t:
sort stored in a sub returns a List

RT#128779		 11:46
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Displa...?id=128779
dalek ast: 94d5bc9 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S32-list/sort.t:
detached .sort returns a List

RT#126921
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Displa...?id=126921
lizmat I wonder how much trouble it would be to make "sub a(/foo/) {}" be sugar for "sub a($ where /foo/)" 11:48
Zoffix It sucks a bit that dalek cuts off output silently. Above, the very latest commit is missing entirely: github.com/perl6/roast/commit/9dd9...0821f9ddff
There's an RFC RT ticket for sub a(/foo/) work; same as sub a('foo') works 11:49
lizmat ah, ok :-)
Zoffix This one rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=128278 11:50
jnthn I don't immediately see a syntactic ambiguity in doing it 11:51
Zoffix Looks like spectest no longer hangs on my home VM \o/ 12:01
jnthn Zoffix: It was a hanging S17-supply test before? :)
Zoffix Yeah
jnthn++ fixing things
jnthn Yeah, that one I got. Actually there's still another problem that can cause such a hang but it's much less common to hit it. 12:02
(Have to get really unlucky wiht the timing)
Got a branch to fix that too, but it manages to bust .throttle
Zoffix looks at rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id...et-history 12:08
"Note that we don't generally test sink warnings currently." <-- is there a reason for it or can I go and add tests?
I see [Coke] reopened the ticket and added the testsneeded tag. 12:09
moritz Zoffix: I don't think snik warnings are mandatory for a compiler 13:28
*sink
it's in the "let's see what we can do for you, but we won't promise anything" category 13:29
much like compile-time errors on signature mismatches are a nice-to-have feature
Zoffix We still can test it, just not as part of roast. 13:30
psch m: "foo"; CATCH { default { say "caught"; .perl.say } } 13:32
camelia rakudo-moar 15ee3c: OUTPUT«WARNINGS for <tmp>:␤Useless use of constant string "foo" in sink context (line 1)␤»
dalek p: 4dbabe9 | (Pawel Murias)++ | src/vm/js/ (9 files):
[js] Rename $call to $$call for consistency.
p: 659181a | (Pawel Murias)++ | src/vm/js/ (5 files):
[js] Rename $apply to $$apply for consistency.
psch m: "foo"; CONTROL { default { say "caught"; .perl.say } }
camelia rakudo-moar 15ee3c: OUTPUT«WARNINGS for <tmp>:␤Useless use of constant string "foo" in sink context (line 1)␤»
psch sink warnings completely bypass our CX everything? 13:33
moritz yes, they are compile-time
psch so output testing
mst you can't SIGWARN 'em somehow? 13:36
Zoffix .ask [Coke] I see you re-opened with testsneeded tag. Should we test sink warnings (see TimToady's comment on ticket)? Where should we test; in Rakudo's test suit? rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id...et-history 13:47
yoleaux2 Zoffix: I'll pass your message to [Coke].
dalek p: 166b381 | (Pawel Murias)++ | src/vm/js/nqp-runtime/reprs.js:
[js] Fix undeclared variable.
 13:53
p: 4b27a15 | (Pawel Murias)++ | src/vm/js/nqp-runtime/reprs.js:
[js] Remove debugging leftover.
 14:12
Zoffix
.oO( bot idea: you give it a date, it gives you a list of Rakudo commits on for that day )
 14:32
Oh, I guess that's what git log --since=yyyy-mm-dd --before=yyyy-mm-dd is for 14:35
committable, help 14:40
committable Zoffix: Like this: committable: f583f22,HEAD say 'hello'; say 'world'
Zoffix committable, 470be033192dd34cf7336e77ca46573f5cdadfb5 class SinkCanary { method sink { note "SUNK!" } }; my ($a) = SinkCanary.new;
committable Zoffix: ¦«470be03»: SUNK!
Zoffix committable, 470be033192dd34cf7336e77ca46573f5cdadfb5,HEAD class SinkCanary { method sink { note "SUNK!" } }; my ($a) = SinkCanary.new;
committable Zoffix: ¦«470be03»: SUNK!␤|«HEAD»:
Zoffix MasterDuke++ AlexDaniel++ # useful bots 14:41
committable, join #zofbot
committable Zoffix: ¦«join»: Cannot find this revision
Zoffix .ask AlexDaniel is is possible to make committable/bisectable join #zofbot? I don't wanna spam #perl6-dev 14:42
yoleaux2 Zoffix: I'll pass your message to AlexDaniel.
Zoffix committable, 470be033192dd34cf7336e77ca46573f5cdadfb5 use Test; { my $is-sunk = False; my class SinkCanary { method sink { $is-sunk = True } }; my ($a) = SinkCanary.new; isnt $is-sunk, True, 'not sunk' } 14:43
committable Zoffix: ¦«470be03»: not ok 1 - not sunk␤␤# Failed test 'not sunk'␤# at /tmp/KAb2CHYWM4 line 1␤# twice: 'True' «exit code = 1»
MasterDuke Zoffix: they don't currently have any logic to join new channels, the channels are hardcoded at start time 14:44
but i'll create an issue for that
Zoffix MasterDuke++
committable, 470be033192dd34cf7336e77ca46573f5cdadfb5 use Test; { my $is-sunk = False; my ($a) = class { method sink { $is-sunk = True } }.new; isnt $is-sunk, True, 'not sunk' } 14:53
committable Zoffix: ¦«470be03»: not ok 1 - not sunk␤␤# Failed test 'not sunk'␤# at /tmp/EAa9kf9HAN line 1␤# twice: 'True' «exit code = 1»
dalek ast: 1b57b3d | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S04-statements/sink.t:
my ($a) = ... does not trigger sinking

RT#127491		 14:55
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Displa...?id=127491
MasterDuke they are also in #perl6, so you could divide your spamming across each 14:56
Zoffix :/
dalek ast: 9a4af3b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S04-statements/sink.t:
Reword test to make it clearer what it tests
 14:58
b2gills I think that the only kind of tests that could/should be in roast for sink warnings, are ones that test to make sure there aren't any warnings. 15:55
TimToady well, otoh, pragmatically speaking, the sink warnings are a very important part of what allows us to use the fancy precedence table without confusing people more than we do 15:57
whenever you use something either tighter or looser than you expected, values and pure functions tend to fall off, and we're just spotting those bits falling to the floor 16:02
so from a usability point of view, it's very much a part of the language
the danger is that we might produce a warning we'd have to retract later if circumstances made it impossible to detect 16:03
b2gills Which would mean that tests for sink warnings would be better separated from roast, or a part of roast that is explicitly optional 16:05
TimToady well, we have the concept of stress tests 16:06
but in some sense these are low-stress, not high-stress 16:07
mst clearly sink warnings belong there, given that precedence related confusion definitely induces stress 16:08
TimToady so I guess I'm basically okay with just including sink warning presence/absence tests in roast itself, since the stakes are low enough that changes can be considered errata 16:15
btw, the slowdown noted recently might be due to actually doing the want processing on some method bodies that were inadvertently omitted before, and that means a lot more annotations on the qast tree 16:19
if so, we could probably get that performance back by baking common annotations into the nodes themselves rather than into attached hashes
especially for things like :WANTED, which is just boolean, and could go in a bitmask 16:20
Zoffix m: use use Foo::Bar 17:10
camelia rakudo-moar 15ee3c: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Could not find symbol '&Bar'␤»
TimToady GIGO :) 17:20
Zoffix :) 17:28
MasterDuke is there some reason Proc::Async doen't have an exit code and signal? 17:34
TimToady you mean, is there a *good* reason? 17:38
the usual good reason is that it would require time travel to the future wait(), but there could be bad reasons too :) 17:41
Zoffix MasterDuke, the .result of the Promise .start returns is a Proc object. It does have .exitcode and .signal 17:56
japhb Zoffix++ # Excellent IRC::Client article 19:29
dalek kudo/nom: 1035edb | lizmat++ | src/core/Any-iterable-methods.pm:
Fix for RT #128780

  - also make .min/.max about 40% faster
  - rewrite with nqp::ops and iterator
  - should be much more memory friendly as no longer copying data around		 20:35
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Displa...?id=128780
Zoffix m: say :2a cmp :3a 21:02
camelia rakudo-moar 1035ed: OUTPUT«Less␤»
Zoffix m: say :4a cmp :3a
camelia rakudo-moar 1035ed: OUTPUT«More␤»
Zoffix m: say { :3a, :4a }.max
camelia rakudo-moar 1035ed: OUTPUT«a => 4␤»
Zoffix m: say { :4a, :3a }.max
camelia rakudo-moar 1035ed: OUTPUT«a => 3␤»
Zoffix How does it sort pairs by default?
FROGGS_ in the last two example there is only one pair, no?
m: say { :3a, :4a } 21:03
camelia rakudo-moar 1035ed: OUTPUT«{a => 4}␤»
Zoffix Oh. FROGGS_++
FROGGS_ m: say { :3b, :4a }.max
camelia rakudo-moar 1035ed: OUTPUT«b => 3␤»
lizmat m: say { :3b, :4a }.max(*.value) 21:04
camelia rakudo-moar 1035ed: OUTPUT«a => 4␤»
lizmat is probably what you meant ?
Zoffix I was just wondering what it does when no argument is given to min/max 21:05
lizmat it cmps the pairs 21:07
m: say a => 3 cmp b => 4
camelia rakudo-moar 1035ed: OUTPUT«Unexpected named parameter 'a' passed␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
lizmat m: say (a => 3) cmp (b => 4)
camelia rakudo-moar 1035ed: OUTPUT«Less␤»
lizmat m: say (a => 5) cmp (b => 4) 21:08
camelia rakudo-moar 1035ed: OUTPUT«Less␤»
lizmat infix:<cmp> for pairs is: (a.key cmp b.key) || (a.value cmp b.value)
Zoffix lizmat++ thanks 21:09
m: say { :3b, :4a }.minmax
camelia rakudo-moar 1035ed: OUTPUT«Index out of range. Is: 1, should be in 0..0␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤Actually thrown at:␤ in any at gen/moar/m-Metamodel.nqp line 3055␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
lizmat Zoffix: that one I didn't fix yet 21:10
Zoffix Hm. What would it return though? 21:11
m: say ((a => 5) ... (f => 6))
camelia rakudo-moar 1035ed: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Method 'succ' not found for invocant of class 'Pair'␤»
Zoffix m: say ((a => 5) .. (f => 6))
camelia rakudo-moar 1035ed: OUTPUT«:a(5)..:f(6)␤»
Zoffix m: .say for ((a => 5) .. (f => 6))
camelia rakudo-moar 1035ed: OUTPUT«Method 'succ' not found for invocant of class 'Pair'␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
lizmat ZoffixL: it would return a Range with a Pair at each endpoint 21:12
Zoffix Range with Pair end points doesn't seem to be working. 21:16
m: say ((a => 5) .. (b => 6))[0]
camelia rakudo-moar 1035ed: OUTPUT«Method 'succ' not found for invocant of class 'Pair'␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
lizmat Zoffix: yeah, I think it only makes sense to call .min and .max on it 21:17
dalek ast: 9b9c39a | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S03-operators/minmax.t:
min/max on Hashes

RT#128780		 21:25
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Displa...?id=128780
dalek kudo/nom: dd0fe7f | lizmat++ | / (2 files):
Add optimized min/max/minmax for native arrays

  - int/num/str arrays
  - between 15x and 25x as fast as the non-native equivalent		 21:34
ast: 1952a14 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S03-operators/minmax.t:
Remove trailing whitespace
lizmat timotimo: so was it a native array you did .min / .max on or not ? 21:39
timotimo no 21:45
wow, 15x and 25x 21:48
that's really good
dalek kudo/nom: 373634e | lizmat++ | / (2 files):
Don't need cmp for natives

And make the method multi's so that the min/max/minmax(&by) case isi done by the candidates in Any		 22:03
lizmat will look at Any.minmax tomorrow 22:04
good night, #perl6!
timotimo yay 22:05
MasterDuke Zoffix: i had tried a whole bunch of stuff, but missed that, thanks 22:38
i'm getting more useful stuff with that, but i still can't get a .signal to work on anything 22:40
travis-ci Rakudo build errored. Elizabeth Mattijsen 'Don't need cmp for natives 23:08
travis-ci.org/rakudo/rakudo/builds/148589867 github.com/rakudo/rakudo/compare/d...3634e72766

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