lizmat looks like test-t just got 15% faster again 09:46
(at least for me)
dogbert17 lizmat: what time did you get? 12:22
and where is [Tux]?
Zoffix: can you test the example in RT #131375 on your Win 64? 14:06
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display...?id=131375
Zoffix dogbert17: "Unable to allocate an array of 20000000 elements" this is on 2017.07 14:34
dogbert17 Zoffix: thx, but you need MoarVM 2017.08.1-19-g151a2563 14:55
:)
Nine++ made the fix and it works on my 32bit Linux system, it would be nice if we can test it on W64 as well 14:56
Zoffix Ain't got one
dogbert17 what system did you try it on, 32 bit lInux?
Zoffix Win64. I mean, I don't have bleed Rakudo; only Star. Can't compile on this box; maybe one the weekend will test on my home box 14:57
.in 3d check on Win10: rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display...?id=131375 14:58
yoleaux Zoffix: I'll remind you on 27 Aug 2017 14:58Z
dogbert17 thanks a lot 15:04
ugexe the biggest array i could initialize on win10 using that RT example was 16_777_216 15:10
1 more element and it blows up 15:11
stackoverflow.com/questions/125966...77216-in-c
dogbert17 ugexe: what version of MoarVM do you have? 15:14
the fix was made ~two days ago 15:15
ugexe .08
the last release
dogbert17 ok, the fix was made after the release 15:16
github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/f9...1351ca6058
ugexe ah i see. any idea why that wasn't causing issues like the RT in linux? 15:17
dogbert17 it did on 32 bit 15:27
dunno why it worked on 64 bit Linux but not on W 64 15:28
ugexe definitely fixed on windows too 15:31
I need a zef command like -to in `zef install -to=...` that acts just like -to but installs all dependencies into the -to location (even if the dependencies are already installed in other visible repos) 15:55
looking for ideas on the -option=... to use for this 15:56
remember that it could be mixed with -to, e.g. zef install foo -to=home -option=local 15:58
TimToady back from eclipse roadtrip 16:10
moritz TimToady: was it worth it? 16:12
moritz saw one in Germany some years ago; it was partially cloudly, so couldn't see the Corona; but still very impressive 16:13
TimToady it was very worth it; we were in western Oregon near Corvallis where it was clear from clouds and wildfire smoke 16:17
had about 2 minutes of totality, and we could see the corona
and Venus, and maybe Mercury 16:18
ah, no, it was Mars I saw 16:19
anyway, one can make all sorts of interesting observations, but as people who've been to an eclipse frequently point out, it's primarily a gut-level emotional experience 16:22
there's something primal about it
but also one just invests so much emotional energy in getting to the right place at the right time, with extra gasoline, all sorts of emergency supplies, etc. 16:23
when we got up at 3am in Medford, we still didn't know whether we'd be in eastern or western Oregon
western was closer, and the weather was supposed to be good both places, so we started up toward Salem, planning to go east into the mountains from there 16:24
but as the sun started coming up, we realized that there were tremendous amounts of smoke from forest fires where we were planning to go, so we headed west instead 16:25
and got out from under the smoke in time to find a little village called Pedee
where some kind folks had opened up their church so we could have a bathroom
one of the cooler things was watching the jet planes curling in to follow the path of the eclipse 16:27
Zoffix :D 16:29
TimToady anyway, I can now check that off my bucket list, or could if I had a bucket list :) 16:34
Zoffix adds it to the bucket list :) 16:46
The sky barelly darkened here due to it, but it had this surreal quality to it. 16:47
TimToady now imagine that surrealness just cranking up over an hour, and getting faster and faster, such that you can see it getting darker every second 16:48
[Coke] I can compile win64 if someone needs something.
TimToady and you can see the shadows moving on the ground of convection around the shadow 16:49
and the wind changes as the umbra passes over 16:51
Zoffix :D
TimToady but there's nothing really to compare to just seeing a hole in the sky where there shouldn't be one
I can see why people get addicted to it 16:53
[Coke] btw, getting this warning building on MSVS17: 16:59
LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option '/LC:\Users\User\rakudo\install\bin'; ignored
LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option '/lmoar'; ignored
(the build is suprisingly fast, given that I'm doing it on windows inside a VM) 17:00
dogbert17: outputs "starting" then 'array initialized.' then exits. 17:02
This is Rakudo version 2017.08-5-g593fa5f87 built on MoarVM version 2017.08.1-19-g151a2563
implementing Perl 6.c.
dogbert17: 1 billion is too many, though. 17:05
dogbert17: 100 million : Starting, followed by a moarvm panic 17:06
Geth roast: cfa23079e3 | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | S05-grammar/methods.t
Fix typo in test description
17:16
dogbert11 [Coke]: thx for testing, 100 million takes quite a bit of memory, how much do you have? 17:52
samcv TimToady, i have a question for you about regex and hoping you know something about this
m: my $a = 'aaaaaab'; 'a' x 999999 ~ 'b' ~~ /$a/; say now - INIT now
camelia 7.31652197?
samcv m: 'a' x 999999 ~ 'b' ~~ /aaaaaab/; say now - INIT now 17:53
camelia 0.00505117?
samcv it's 150x different the amount of time it takes from literally typing in the value or if it's in a variable. and that's kind of unacceptable. so i'm wondering how we can fix this
Geth roast: 1e4fd21486 | (Samantha McVey)++ | S03-operators/repeat.t
Add tests for `x` operator to ensure normalization retained
17:56
6.d-prep: 8236870838 | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | TODO/FEATURES.md
Add to TODO: Consistify Naming of `$*INITTIME`

  - github.com/perl6/roast/issues/296
  - github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1462
  - github.com/perl6/doc/issues/510
18:24
perlpilot m: my $a = rx/aaaaaab/; 'a' x 999999 ~ 'b' ~~ /$a/; say now - INIT now 18:36
camelia 4.2885446?
perlpilot m: my $a = rx/aaaaaab/; 'a' x 999999 ~ 'b' ~~ $a; say now - INIT now
camelia 0.0068104?
perlpilot samcv: So ... I agree with you, but the user does have other options :) 18:38
Geth 6.d-prep: 594b10032a | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | TODO/FEATURES.md
Better new name for $*INITTIME

per github.com/perl6/roast/issues/296#...-324719710
18:40
samcv perlpilot, well there's something that is taking such a long time when it's in a variable, and it shouldn't take that long 18:54
when it completes 150x faster if you put the literal word there or use `index` or `nqp::index`
i mean the regex does use nqp::index but before that it does ??? idk what it does but it takes 149x longer than just running nqp::index 18:55
what good is my KMP algorithm if it spends 149x of its time doing something else?
also i wonder if i can implement the Knuth-morris-pratt algorithm backwards for MVM_string_index_from_end it must be possible. just process the needle backwards into the jump table, and then start at the end... 18:58
though i'm not sure how much that is used
yeah i don't see it used in the nqp source other that having the op added 18:59
Geth roast: eaec1961ef | (Samantha McVey)++ | S03-operators/repeat.t
Fix todo count for JVM in repeat file
19:00
samcv wow the unicode conference is expensive $995 for the conference only, or 1495 for conference and tutorial. 100 dollar discount for unicode members 19:05
it's located right by where i live right now though. conference is October 16-18 19:06
AlexDaniel and another 100 dollar discount if you pay by September 1st :) 20:23
b2gills Rakudo is currently broken for me, “Missing or wrong version of dependency '/opt/rakudo/bin/../share/nqp/lib/MAST/Nodes.nqp' (from 'src/Perl6/Pod.nqp” 21:08
I use this to build Rakudo: gist.github.com/b2gills/34bc96f5e8...dc6e703148 21:15
Geth specs: Xliff++ created pull request #122:
Update S27-perl-culture-draft.pod6
21:20
specs: baec197a05 | Xliff++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | S27-perl-culture-draft.pod6
Update S27-perl-culture-draft.pod6

Minor typo fix.
21:24
specs: cdca1ad1a9 | (Brad Gilbert)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | S27-perl-culture-draft.pod6
Merge pull request #122 from Xliff/patch-1

Typo in S27-draft Lost -> Lots
samcv b2gills, have you tried recompiling nqp then recompiling rakudo 22:44
b2gills What managed to fix it is basically “cd ~/Program/Perl6/rakudo/nqp; git checkout master; git pull; perl Configure.pl --prefix=/opt/rakudo --gen-moar; make install; cd ..; git pull; Configure.pl --prefix=/opt/rakudo; make install 23:40
I did do a lot of things before that, but I don't think they changed anything 23:41