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Geth ¦ rakudo: AlexDaniel self-assigned SEGV in Audio::Sndfile github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/2231 02:45
¦ rakudo: AlexDaniel self-unassigned SEGV in Audio::Sndfile github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/2231
¦ rakudo: AlexDaniel assigned to niner Issue SEGV in Audio::Sndfile github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/2231
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AlexDaniel samcv: ping? ETA? 02:51
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samcv AlexDaniel: just got done flying all day. i will be fully free sat and sunday 04:41
i must go to sleep now though. will check irc when i wake 04:42
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Geth rakudo/post-release-2018.08: fcd45ff802 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core/Rakudo/Iterator.pm6
Move some iterators from Range to R::Iterator
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rakudo/post-release-2018.08: a949a16144 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core/Range.pm6
Rework Range.iterator

Most important semantic change is the behaviour of "AAS" .. "ABS"
  *not* producing just two values
rakudo/post-release-2018.08: c1e62f0884 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core/Range.pm6
Restore the "AAS" .. "ABS" behaviour

a949a161446d7698e2 changed the behaviour to be a simple .succ based iterator (aka, the second element being "AAT"). This restores the referring to the "..." behaviour, which apparently was TimToady's original intent.
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|Tux| Rakudo version 2018.06-480-gea387a12a - MoarVM version 2018.06-434-ge530be4d3
csv-ip5xs0.941 - 0.985
csv-ip5xs-207.949 - 8.212
csv-parser23.322 - 23.348
csv-test-xs-200.429 - 0.444
test9.298 - 9.654
test-t2.108 - 2.170
test-t --race0.923 - 0.933
test-t-2037.281 - 38.234
test-t-20 --race11.410 - 12.133
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Geth rakudo/post-release-2018.08: fa4fccb11e | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core/Rakudo/Iterator.pm6
Don't close over anonymous classes in Rakudo::Iterator, part 2
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nine Oh boy. explicitly-manage has always been broken but in a different way: all strings marked by that function would always report the encoding that was passed to the function last 14:11
ye olde class definitions are not closures issue: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/mast...l.pm6#L635
jnthn oops 14:12
[Coke] good find 14:14
jnthn nine++
nine I wonder if there is a better way to implement explicitly-manage that won't involve having to check each and every string passed to a native sub for a .cstr method. 14:15
jnthn Surely there is 14:17
nine Shouldn't the "who's in charge of freeing this string" depend more on the native sub than the string itself? If the sub (or code it passes the string to) will free the string, we need to handle it specially. If not, then not.
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nine Thus the information should be part of the sub's definition. I.e. it should require a CStr instead of a Str. 14:18
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nine The whole thing makes even less sense the more I think about it. explicitly-manage mixes in a role that adds an attribute with a copy of the string in CStr representation. NativeCall will encode the string in the target encoding and only if the string's repr is not CStr free the encoded string afterwards. So why copy the string in the first place? The copy will be GCed just like the original in any case. 14:28
jnthn I think the idea was to pass in a string that would become owned by the callee 14:31
Rather than freeing it after the call
No argument that it's a good solution :P 14:32
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nine But whether the string would become owned by the callee is a static property of the callee, i.e. whether it contains some call to free() or not. It doesn't depend on the individual string. 14:35
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jnthn Yes, I agree. 14:35
nine Luckily there's already quite some machinery implemented for tracking whether a string argument is supposed to be free'd after the call. Which is used to tell the VM that arguments ought to be free'd while returned strings are not. 14:40
This is just waiting for an explicitly-managed trait on the argument :) 14:42
What I absolutely don't understand is why removing that call to explicitly-manage in Audio-Sndfile fixes the segfault. As the compiled native call code doesn't handle the trait it shouldn't change anything. 14:49
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Geth nqp: a778b81a07 | (Paweł Murias)++ | src/vm/js/nqp-runtime/package-lock.json
[js] Remove package log with outdated vulnerable package
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nqp: 0f9772bee7 | (Paweł Murias)++ | src/vm/js/nqp-runtime/io.js
[js] Make nqp::istype and boolification work on directory handles
nqp: b47d5ef585 | (Paweł Murias)++ | 3 files
[js] Make nqp::getppid and nqp::getpid return -1 in the browser
nqp: c22105be09 | (Paweł Murias)++ | src/vm/js/nqp-runtime/core.js
[js] Make nqp::backendconfig work in the browser
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Geth nqp: 53053c56bb | (Samantha McVey)++ | tools/build/Makefile-Moar.in
Don't store owner or group in our release's tar archive

Set owner and group to ID 0 and don't store the same either. This is done so the archive will not show the username of the user who created the release.		 19:13
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samcv looks like i don't have push permissions to rakudo/rakudo anymore 19:39
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timotimo samcv: could it be caused by the recent switch-around of roles in the repos? or was that just in perl6/ ? 20:50
samcv timotimo: that's what i'm guessing? dunno who to ask to get it fixed
timotimo i don't seem to have access for that 20:51
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AlexDani` samcv: you should have now 21:29
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AlexDaniel samcv: I locked master so that people push somewhere else :) 21:30
samcv ah i can do that from now on
if that's what the new thing is I will do it
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Geth rakudo: 5d1cec5a4c | (Samantha McVey)++ | tools/build/Makefile-Moar.in
Don't store owner or group in our release's tar archive

Set owner and group to ID 0 and don't store the same either. This is done so the archive will not show the username of the user who created the release.		 21:44
AlexDaniel samcv++ 21:48
samcv s/same/name
jnthn AlexDaniel: In the future, I think we should have a release branch rather than blocking master. (It's what I plan to have us switch to doing in MoarVM.) 21:51
AlexDaniel jnthn: sure, I can do that. In fact I've done that for the last two releases, I think? 21:52
for me it makes no difference from which branch I release
jnthn: in fact, why future 21:54
jnthn Didn't want to disrupt what you're doing ;)
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jnthn: branches are cheap 21:55
cool, there're now github.com/rakudo/rakudo/tree/release-2018.08 github.com/perl6/nqp/tree/release-2018.08 21:56
moarvm side you guys handle yourself please :)
jnthn: fwiw it doesn't resolve the problem fully. Say we're a few days before the release and someone decides to push breaking stuff into master. Do we expect the release branch to exist at that point already? If yes, then all good and needed fixes to master will need to be cherrypicked, so that's a lot of cherrypicking… and if we don't want that, then we're still blocking master, just in a different (less strong) way 22:01
I guess something like that is what git flow is attempting to fix, but it has its own issues
jnthn AlexDaniel: Yeah, there's no perfect option. Probably about the right point to do it is when toaster looks clean enough that "we must be very close" :) 22:03
AlexDaniel cool, we'll try it out next time
jnthn I'm also wondering what it'd take to get more regular toaster runs 22:04
So far as I can tell, automation + somebody providing a place to run it 22:05
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AlexDaniel basically a rewrite of toaster, see colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log...08-12#l652 22:06
like, of some parts of it at least
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jnthn Ah, that'd be a way to make it run in less time, yes 22:06
AlexDaniel basically the way it works now is very wasteful, if I understand correctly it will install most modules more than once (sometimes as a dependency)
jnthn Though how long does a run take with it today?
AlexDaniel about an hour on the machine I was using 22:07
but that's google cloud thingy with a bunch of cores
or maybe ≈2 hours, I don't remember
but personally I also want it to bisect right away so that I'm not spending any time on that 22:08
jnthn Hm, like a 32-core one?
AlexDaniel yeah mine has 24 cores 22:09
if it can already run tests there's no good reason for it not to run the same tests with a different rakudo, bisecting is also cheap :)
timotimo have we considered mounting a filesystem that can do snapshots and doing some magic with that for the installation stuff? or maybe trickery with hard links?
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AlexDaniel timotimo: no, why? Like, what is this going to help with? 22:11
timotimo i should perhaps have read that irclog :D
AlexDaniel and now that I figured out that zef has --to thingy, it looks even easier 22:15
also it sounds like fun project to work on if you have time, so if anybody is looking for a way to contribute ;) ;) ;) 22:17
jnthn I'd guess one could just topo-sort the whole ecosystem, and then install/test that way?
AlexDaniel jnthn: yes
jnthn It's fun but I'm not exactly short of things to do :P
AlexDaniel yeah that's exactly what I mean
I wish we had something like GSoC or similar 22:18
jnthn Indeed
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