Perl 6 language and compiler development | Logs at colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log/perl6-dev | For toolchain/installation stuff see #perl6-toolchain | For MoarVM see #moarvm
Set by Zoffix on 27 July 2018.
[Tux] Rakudo version 2019.03.1-225-g90e18b65f - MoarVM version 2019.03-97-g8fef19994
csv-ip5xs0.724 - 0.732
csv-ip5xs-205.951 - 6.163
csv-parser21.986 - 24.524
csv-test-xs-200.428 - 0.431
test7.610 - 7.948
test-t1.679 - 1.716
test-t --race0.792 - 0.804
test-t-2027.544 - 29.550
test-t-20 --race9.038 - 9.117
 11:37
gfldex AlexDaniel: the plan is to resurect perl6.org and to turn it into a religion :-> 15:33
tony-o lol 17:49
timotimo could y'all try rakudo.org on https? 19:46
timotimo also perl6.wakelift.de on ssl and docs.perl6.wakelift.de 19:46
robertle all three work for me 19:47
gfldex same 19:48
robertle perl6.wakelift.de seems to load some contents from another source, which my browser reports to have blocked
can't quite see anything missing though
timotimo oh, let's see 19:50
i don't get any output, can you see what it is?
robertle don't get it. everything it loads comes from that site, except jquery.min.js, which also comes over https 19:51
gfldex i see ajax.googleapis.com
timotimo ah
i get that via decentraleyes
gfldex so it might not work in china 19:52
timotimo hm, or not 19:52
robertle I think my browser is stupid, all that content clearly comes over https, so there is no reason to mark it as mixed content... 19:55
timotimo perl6.nl/ and docs.perl6.nl should also soon work just fine 19:59
ugexe we dont use cloudflare because some people don't want cloudflare seeing their traffic, but its ok to pull down jquery from google? 20:06
timotimo i can change it to be hosted on perl6.org; also, there's an extension that makes CDN stuff go via a different service (and cached locally), but there's no such thing to get around cloudflare i think? 20:07
hm, i wonder
would we be able to ssh into www.p6c.org or hack.p6c.org or even the vm host in the case of a DDoS attack on the server?
i.e. is there a possibility to get a different network path to the vm host so that we can use the local console via virt-manager, for instance? 20:08
lizmat I guess moritz would knnow
gfldex Datacenters tend to have 2 separated uplinks. But they run as failovers. 20:10
ugexe i'd be interested to hear if someone is actually against using a CDN or if that fear is just theoretical hackernews discussion 20:16
gfldex having the whole show mirror friendly would be nice 20:17
that would allow us to run acutal mirrors and if folk don't like cdns, they can feed their local mirror via a vpn 20:18
ugexe i have to imagine there would be a speed boost for zef when fetching the ecosystem list, since just timo hosting the docs was significantly faster for where i am 20:23
timotimo actually it's sena_kun hosting; it's a digitalocean droplet 20:24
Camelia Delivery Network
gfldex are there any DBs on any of those sites? 20:28
timotimo databases? like SQL? 20:38
gfldex yes 20:46
timotimo modules.perl6.org stores its stuff in an sqlite database, but other than that i'm not aware of any 20:51
gfldex sqlite is one of the easy targets for rsync. There is still a cronjob needed tho. 20:53
Or the script that is running updates on the db creates the backup itself just before changing data. 20:54
lizmat notable6: weekly 21:21
notable6 lizmat, 7 notes: gist.github.com/f8b589bff5be6c4f6e...25eb49ae42
lizmat reportable6: 2019-04-15T12:00:00Z 2019-04-22T00:00:00Z 21:51
reportable6 lizmat, OK, working on it! This may take up to 40 seconds
lizmat, gist.github.com/2c2c2698db0f4b6cbf...d55106633d 21:52
lizmat sleep& 21:59
timotimo i'll add filename selection to snap :heap 22:09
i.e. snap heap => "foobar.mvmheap"
AlexDani` jnthn: I'm quite happy with the problem-solving repo 23:03
AlexDaniel definitely better than the mess we had in rakudo/rakudo 23:03
jnthn: I'm a bit worried that it probably puts a bit too much strain on you 23:04
but your responses are extremely helpful and on point :) 23:05
jnthn AlexDaniel: Yeah, I'm glad of the separation; in some senses it's a bit less strain in that problem-solving will often be about unblocking things others wish to do, and having those things easily located is helpful. 23:27
jnthn Also, will depend on the rate at which things are placed there, and how it intersects with times when I've a bunch of other things to do (or when I decide I need a vacation :)) 23:31
Certainly, though, growing more people into the role of evaluating these things would be good. It's easy for me to put a +1 on a response I agree with. :) 23:33
Sleep time now; expect to have some Perl 6 hacking tuits this week :) 23:35
AlexDaniel releasable6: status
releasable6 AlexDaniel, Next release will happen when it's ready. 8 blockers. 61 out of 227 commits logged (⚠ 51 warnings)
AlexDaniel, Details: gist.github.com/6283397848596f90ec...f36c9a50e6
AlexDaniel jnthn: a document in github.com/perl6/roast/tree/master/docs can help too :) 23:38

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