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| masak finally starts reading "Let over Lambda" | 17:58 | ||
| vendethiel | NICE :D | ||
| masak | I'm on chapter 1. | 18:06 | |
| so far, this is a very Lisp-y book, in the sense that it's unashamedly condescending. | |||
| "Understanding why macros are so great requires understanding what lisp has that other languages don't. It requires an understanding of other, less powerful languages." | 18:08 | ||
| "Sadly, most programmers lose the will to learn after they have mastered a few other languages and never make it close to understanding what a macro is or how to take advantage of one." | 18:09 | ||
| vendethiel | oh, it definitely is. | ||
| masak | I'm hoping the condescension will gradually give way to content... :P | ||
| "Where other languages are rigid and specific, lisp is fluid and generic." blah blah blah blah | 18:10 | ||
| vendethiel | .oO( if your reaction is "obviously, he doesn't know perl", you're pretty much as condescending as he is ) :P |
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| masak | my reaction is more like "obviously, he likes his lisp a lot" -- and a feeling that this makes him non-objective in a way typical for lisp people. | 18:23 | |
| but, we'll see. maybe he's completely right in his superiority, and by the end of the book I'll agree with him completely. | |||
| "In the sense that other languages are composed of primitives, lisp is composed of meta-primitives." -- staaaahp | 18:26 | ||
| nearing the end of chapter 1 here :) | |||
| chapter 2: closures | 18:33 | ||
| yay \\o/ | |||