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| timotimo | so ... what's the connection between playing a song in a key and playing a chord that has the same name as that key? | 08:01 | |
| RabidGravy | the notes in that chord are in the scale | 08:05 | |
| so say, to keep it simple, you have a thing in the key of C, the notes in the scale are C, D, E, F, G, A, B | 08:06 | ||
| timotimo | but the scale is bigger than the chord, right? | ||
| RabidGravy | the basic C major chord is C, E, G | 08:07 | |
| timotimo | right, because major third, perfect fifth, rightt? | ||
| RabidGravy | yaw | 08:08 | |
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| psch | timotimo: the chord with first note of the scale as root is called the tonic. it's the chord that all other natural triads directly or indirectly resolve to | 10:04 | |
| timotimo | "resolve"? | ||
| psch | timotimo: to qualify, in major keys it's the resolution target | ||
| timotimo | can you explain that in term of DNS? | 10:05 | |
| psch | yeah, try playing Fmaj, Gmaj, and Cmaj46 (i.e. E3, G3, C4) in a row | ||
| that's F A C, G H D, E G C | |||
| timotimo | i don't have piano keys next to me right now ;( | ||
| they hardly overlap | 10:06 | ||
| psch | vocaroo.com/i/s0eVx9cLwVdO | 10:09 | |
| ...actually, that's not Cmaj46 | 10:10 | ||
| wait, is it :/ | |||
| timotimo | my piano is unlikely to have 64bit | ||
| 46bit* | |||
| psch | i'm bad with names of inversions :P | 10:11 | |
| timotimo | so, what should i be noticing about that recording? | ||
| what's an inversion? | |||
| psch | playing the notes of a chord in a different ordering | ||
| i.e. the root on top | |||
| *e.g. | |||
| or the fifth at the bottom, with root and third on top | |||
| timotimo | i don't think i have hands wide enough to play 5 below the root and 3 on top of it | 10:12 | |
| psch | C E G is a natural triad, C maj. E G C is the first inversion | ||
| yeah i think you do :P | |||
| timotimo | yeah? | 10:14 | |
| psch | anyway, the noticeable thing in the cadence above is that it leads to Cmaj | ||
| timotimo | you told me to play Cmaj46 and the special thing is that it "leads to" Cmaj? what does "lead to" mean? | ||
| psch | no, the *cadence* | ||
| Fmaj, Gmaj => Cmaj | |||
| timotimo | oh, lead to as in "sounds good"? | 10:15 | |
| psch | yeah, with a bit more technical explanation if you want :) | ||
| timotimo | i'm not sure i'd understand | ||
| psch | vocaroo.com/i/s0o6sG5kJwoE | 10:16 | |
| that's Fmaj, Gmaj, Emin | |||
| as a comparison | 10:17 | ||
| timotimo | also sounds good :o | ||
| psch | yeah, but it doesn't as easy rest on the last chord | ||
| *easily | |||
| note, nothing that sticks to chords in one key can really sound bad | |||
| i mean, it can sound formulaic or boring, but never *really* bad or wrong | 10:18 | ||
| well, if you stick with natural triads at least | |||
| timotimo | "triad" just means three notes played at the same time? | 10:19 | |
| what of the chords that you play with the additional 4th note? and the ones where you play the 4th note, but leave the 3rd out? | |||
| psch | yeah, natural triads (in a given scale) are those that you build from the notes in a scale in the "normal" pattern, that is root, third, fifth | 10:20 | |
| you got an example for playing the 4th note but not the 3rd note? | |||
| timotimo | no | ||
| just that i've been told about that | |||
| and don't remember what it was all about | |||
| i guess the 4th note would be a 7th interavl? | 10:21 | ||
| psch | eh, not necessarily :) | 10:22 | |
| jazz usually leaves out the root afaik vOv | 10:23 | ||
| but they're crazy so there :P | |||
| timotimo | not necessarily? | ||
| are there more ways to put a 4th note into a chord than to make it a 7-interval? | |||
| psch | yeah, C E G A for example :) | ||
| timotimo | huh, a 6 directly after the 5? | 10:24 | |
| why would that work, but not, say, C D E G? | |||
| psch | that can work too | 10:25 | |
| it's a bit close together, so i'd probably move the C up an octave | |||
| timotimo | ugh | ||
| why don't i just lay my arm across the piano keys | |||
| psch | vocaroo.com/i/s0SnGGTGWCoW | 10:33 | |
| that's your C D E G at the start | |||
| as E C D G, though | |||
| timotimo | hmm | 10:35 | |
| psch | youtu.be/M-fxCYiM0Oo like this :) | 10:46 | |
| re: "arm across the piano keys" | |||
| timotimo | wow, doge | 10:47 | |
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| timotimo | did i ever mention how much i love the bomberman 64 OST? check out this song: www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qg0x07oaZ...mp;index=5 | 20:14 | |