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Set by autrijus on 13 June 2005.
castaway luckily he couldnt see me from there ;) 00:00
castaway has plenty of pics of herself ,)
Odin-LAP Poor thing.
Odin-LAP has too many. 00:01
Darren_Duncan castaway, what's your name? I can't find "castaway" in the AUTHORS 00:03
ditto Odin-LAP; I can't find that in the AUTHORS; your name? 00:04
Odin-LAP Not present. :> 00:05
theorbtwo DD: she should write something, so she can go in AUTHORS in good faith.
00:05 Limbic_Region_ is now known as Limbic_Region
Darren_Duncan sure 00:05
theorbtwo Jess Robinson (CASTAWAY) 00:06
Darren_Duncan I half-assume that everyone on this channel has or will contribute something
norstar2 Greetings
Darren_Duncan maybe to clear things up we should have a separate file of people on #perl6 that aren't yet qualified to be in AUTHORS
theorbtwo Oh, nope, Jess "castaway" Robinson (JROBINSON) 00:07
DISTUNIGUISHEDLURKERS
norstar2 Darren, are you a Perl 6 programmer?
Darren_Duncan yes
norstar2 Do you work on Pugs?
Darren_Duncan my main contribution to Pugs is in writing Perl 6
castaway is not present in AUTHORS 00:08
Darren_Duncan both attempting to make Perl 6 modules run on it, and writing tests
Limbic_Region theorbtwo - have all the glitches that got exposed after your patch (or the majority of them anyway) get fixed?
theorbtwo Yes, but if you were, that would be your entry.
Darren_Duncan I'm not a Lambda
castaway distinguished?
theorbtwo Limbic: I think so.
Limbic_Region I am back to using svk and am going to attempt latest pugs to file some bug reports against
Darren_Duncan sometimes also participating in this channel and p6l about what the langauge should look like and/or having it clarified 00:09
theorbtwo so needs a better laptop.
castaway Darren, why were you looking? ;)
Darren_Duncan sometimes knowing a person's real name can tell a bit more about them
online handles are so un-descriptive 00:10
theorbtwo Depends on the handle, and the name.
Darren_Duncan sure
theorbtwo Real names really tell you more about a person's parents.
Darren_Duncan when I say 'handle', I mean those that don't resemble real names
Odin-LAP And the person in question!
Darren_Duncan I always use my real name on the internet and never made an alias
Odin-LAP theorbtwo: Oooh, like patronymics? ;p 00:11
theorbtwo "theorbtwo" tells you that I' the sort of person who would name himself theorbtwo.
castaway hmm, what do real names tell you, if anything?
(it can give an idea as to nationality etc, but apart from that?)
Odin-LAP Darren_Duncan: Here's the question: Aren't handles *more* descriptive, since they tend to be self-chosen?
Darren_Duncan they can often tell you a person's gender and culture, sometimes age too
depends what one wants to know I suppose 00:12
castaway interesting, so which am I of those? ;)
Odin-LAP Indeed.
theorbtwo "James Mastros" just tells you that my parents are the sort of people that would name me "James Mastros".
castaway (not tha theorbtwo didnt already give one away)
Darren_Duncan you explicitly said you were a female earlier
in your comment about having too many pictures
castaway hmm, so I did.. ,) 00:13
Odin-LAP "Whoops."
;)
geoffb Perhaps a better question is, "Why is your nick <foo>?" That would probably tell you the most, assuming they answered honestly
Darren_Duncan to be honest, given just a handle, I have to assume that everyone here is a male until I know otherwise, given that is likely the majority
castaway geoffb: I dunno, there are so many reasons
fine by me
Odin-LAP Darren_Duncan: Ooooh. Let's just hope you don't run into any extreme feminists. ;)
geoffb castaway, shoot . . . (see, now this already sounds interesting) 00:14
theorbtwo (Even that tells you a lot... like it's not "No purticular reason".)
castaway I even get that when people know my name
Darren_Duncan when I say "assume", I mean "image in the head associated with the handle"
castaway geoffb: nope, waiting for Darren to guess first ,)
(since it probably gives another one away ,)
Darren_Duncan I don't actually tell people someone is one or the other since I don't spread misinformation on purpose
who wants me to guess what? 00:15
theorbtwo doesn't have to worry too much about spreading misinformation on castaway.
castaway culture and age.. mine that is
castaway notes as an aside, that she currently cant tell who is emoting what, since it comes up white on white ,) 00:16
geoffb OK, going with the probabilities -- white, late 20's to early 40's
Darren_Duncan notes as an aside that I explicitly turned those stupid yellow ball smiley graphics off on my client because I abhor them 00:17
castaway geoffb: is your nick Darren? ;)
Darren, me too
geoffb castaway, heh
Limbic_Region bah - now pugs fails to build 00:18
grrrrrrr
Darren_Duncan castaway, the name Jess Robinson suggests someone from a European-style culture, in answer to your question
as for sex, its hard to tell because at least half the names out there can be applied to one of either kind; wouldn't know if you hadn't said 00:19
Odin-LAP European-style? English-speaking, moreover! 00:20
castaway lucky for you that happens to be correct
(yeah "European" is anyone of many many cultures)
Darren_Duncan by contrast, some names stand out as being middle-eastern or asian etc
castaway otoh that places you firmly on the NA continent, Darren ,)
Darren_Duncan suffice it to say, I only said a real name helps "a little more" 00:21
castaway (I find one can get a lot more from incidental conversation than names)
and ges?
Darren_Duncan certainly, but that takes time
theorbtwo Limbic_Region, fails how?
castaway sure, I was just curious
Limbic_Region perlbot nopaste
perlbot Paste your code here and #<channel> will be able to view it: sial.org/pbot/<channel>
Darren_Duncan to be honest, I have a poor memory for people, that aside from a small handful, I won't remember in an hour who said what here
pasteling "Limbic_Region" at 24.35.57.240 pasted "like this" (37 lines, 2.6K) at sial.org/pbot/11330 00:22
Darren_Duncan same in real life, difficulty with names and faces
theorbtwo Likewise, DD.
Darren_Duncan my memory is a lot better with spacial or mathematical things
theorbtwo Whee.
No clue what would cal^Huse that. 00:23
castaway oops, I meant "and age" back there
theorbtwo cause that.
Darren_Duncan eg, after I go to OSCON this year, I should be able to draw a map of the conference center from memory several years later
example of spacial that was
Limbic_Region so it is bombing out on Prelude.hs on a fresh checkout 00:24
fresh as in I reformatted the harddrive 00:25
Darren_Duncan so, out of those talking here right now (last 10-20 mins), who's going to OSCON 2005?
theorbtwo What does your Prelude.hs contain?
castaway nudges theorbtwo
(query window)
theorbtwo wonders why he's being nudged?
castaway thats pretty drastic, Limbic ,)
Darren_Duncan separate question: what do you do in your IRC client to change the appearance of your handle in posts when you are self-describing 00:26
(my client shows a bullet to the left of the handle) 00:27
Limbic_Region castaway - I didn't really format it - but for all intents and purposes that partition was wiped
geoffb Darren_Duncan, do you mean '/me does foo'? 00:28
Darren_Duncan lets test that theory ...
Darren_Duncan testing a theory
that seems to have done it
thanks
geoffb sure
Limbic_Region theorbtwo - I have two - different sizes
you want the one that was bombing out obviously
Darren_Duncan now I just have to remember for next time
Limbic_Region silly me
Darren_Duncan original question: is anyone here going to OSCON 2005? 00:29
pasteling "Limbic_Region" at 24.35.57.240 pasted "Prelude.hs" (27 lines, 3.1K) at sial.org/pbot/11331 00:30
castaway not me, Darren
theorbtwo OK, if it's 27 lines, it's probably riht.
Darren_Duncan I'm hoping I'll like it ... especially given the CDN$2200 or so I'll be spending to go 00:31
Limbic_Region it is 27 lines
and blowing up perfectly
Darren_Duncan now away from comp for a bit 00:32
castaway geoffb: my favourite song at the time was "Message in a Bottle", btw (and it seemed to fit some too)
my .plan was/is the chorus from that song
*nudge* 00:34
Odin-LAP plants a ten kilogram nugget of plutonium wrapped in primed HE in the middle of the channel. 00:37
s/nugget/sphere/ # perhaps..?
castaway (so either he is in Canada, or OSCON is.. and since thats in Portland..) 00:38
Darren_Duncan YAPC::NA is in Canada, OSCON isn't
castaway and you?
Limbic_Region is taking his recent troubles even getting pugs to run as a sign and decides to call it a weekend
castaway hugs Lim 00:39
oops
Darren_Duncan if you're asking me, I'm at home in BC, Canada
Limbic_Region when are you and your better half coming back castorbaway?
castaway hugs Limbic_Region
Limbic_Region hugs back
theorbtwo To Lancaster, tomorrow.
castaway back to PA, tomorrow
castaway ponders who was the better half, and who the asked, there ,)
Limbic_Region ok - what dates were you looking at possibly getting together?
castaway anytime between Sun and Thurs 00:40
Odin-LAP wonders why nobody's scared of the fat man.
Limbic_Region Odin-LAP - I am both fat and scary
castaway afaik we're planned thurs afternoon/evening and flying back to munich fri
Odin-LAP triggers the nuke. 00:41
castaway nuffin! ,) 00:49
nothingmuch huh? 00:53
castaway wot? 00:54
(an IRC proxt would certainly be useful here) 01:01
proxy even
azuroth hey 01:19
is the parrot cvs borken? is this the right place to ask? 01:20
theorbtw1 az: No, ask on irc.perl.org/#parrot. 01:54
azuroth ahh, okay 01:55
thanks
02:02 castaway_ is now known as castaway
geoffb is bak 02:24
Did you ask me something, castaway?
I saw the Message in a Bottle comment . . . and yep, that says a lot. :-) 02:25
castaway nope
makes guessing the era easy, no?
geoffb yep
castaway mumbles at Perl/Everything 02:26
geoffb Do they answer back? 02:27
castaway fraid not
geoffb damn shame. Be interesting to hear what they had to say 02:28
castaway I'm not sure it would, y'know ,)
geoffb does `svk pull` again and hopes for the best . . . "And this time, with FEELING."
A nice cryptic answer perhaps -- " Y - E - S " 02:29
castaway so very prologish 02:30
geoffb imagines the monks receiving Deep Thought's answer from the BBC HGTTG
castaway s:) 02:31
geoffb What does the s indicate? Hairstyle? 02:37
geoffb never became an emoticon expert . . . which is perhaps a good thing
Bah, OF still down. *sigh*. 02:38
Darren_Duncan Autrijus' journal is up, seemingly a half hour ago 02:39
castaway sorry, the s was left over from typing something in another channel, I wondered where it went to ,) 03:25
mugwump notes that lists.utsl.gen.nz/pipermail/pugs-co...5-June.txt makes a nice patch file 06:52
arcady that's just too convenient... 06:58
Alias_ Hi folks, how's the hackathon going? 08:29
Juerd autrijus: In your journal, where you say "chomped part", don't you mean "what's left after chomping"? 08:51
autrijus: I'd think the "chomped part" would be the "\n" part
pdcawley_ reads autrijus's latest journal entry and applauds wildly. Go larry1 10:37
s/1/!/
cognominal can you access svn.openfoundry.org? 12:05
meppl no 12:10
but the mirror svn.perl.org/perl6/pugs/ is online 12:11
nothingmuch_ Juerd: autochomping behavior will cause the FH to return a subclass of String 12:12
but otherwise $foo behaves like a normal string, that is missing the EOL marker 12:13
like ChompedInput or something like that
and then you can say $foo.newline to get back the part that was chomped off
and you can make a filehandle return an unchomped, nonmagical string by passing it an adverb
14:30 knewt__ is now known as knewt_
Limbic_Region am I the only one that Pugs is blowing up for on Win32? 14:36
14:42 Limbic_Region_ is now known as Limbic_Region 15:20 Limbic_Region_ is now known as Limbic_Region
steveq Are there problems with the svn server? 16:48
Khisanth it's probably still down
nothingmuch Algorithm::Dependency::Objects released 18:37
autrijus rehi \camels! 18:46
<- still relenging and waiting for stevan to resume the metamodel work 18:47
coral gets out the pom-poms 18:48
are you in yapc land now? 18:49
autrijus I'm in the hackathon
day #3 already
i.e. final day here 18:50
mugwump hi, I've got Date tests behaving
I'll be able to commit tomorow sometime... 18:51
autrijus ooh. 18:54
luqui: are you checking in your PIL metamodel work somewhere? 18:56
mugwump & # sleep after long party :) 19:00
nothingmuch autrijus: i've thought a bit about metamodels... want to talk? 19:13
meet me outside
if yes
autrijus outside meet if metamodel talk then 19:14
nothingmuch yes, but not forth metamodels 19:15
give me 10 mins
we're doing releng
autrijus ok.
Juerd nothingmuch: I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but I think it's not what I meant :) 20:01
nothingmuch Juerd: huh? 20:07
about Junction|Any?
autrijus nothingmuch: how's releng and things? 20:15
nothingmuch uh, fine
want to do MM?
verby is released 20:38
23:05 Maddingue__ is now known as Maddingue

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