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Set by apple-gunkies on 11 November 2005.
autrijus # use.perl.org/~autrijus/journal/27759 01:55
wolverian hello, autrijus :) 01:57
autrijus greetings :)
wolverian yow, that's not much money. sorry to hear that. 01:58
autrijus it's okay... I'm not selling organs yet 02:02
it should pass soonish in early december. 02:03
wolverian that's good to hear.
autrijus on the plus side, this forced me to really write legible analysis/design/requirement/planning documents, which might come in more handy than visio diagrams for pugs :) 02:05
mm, 10am already. gotta get to $job. bbl 02:06
take care... I'll survive this :) & 02:07
malverian autrijus: Woo.. 02:10
autrijus: Is there any way to use pp on a Linux host to cross-compile to win32? 02:13
autrijus malverian: if you use no XS modules, pp --par would work. if you do use XS modules, then probably not 02:14
(as it would require a win32 @INC tree somewhere and probing for it)
it's possible to hack this support into PAR in the same way perl2exe does... want a commit bit?
malverian autrijus: Getting the win32 tree is no problem (I've copied it from an activeperl install), just was curious if pp can be told to look for the win32 libs and to output a win32 compressed exe 02:15
autrijus basically, if your win32 tree contains bin/par.exe, and you can somehow trick /usr/local/bin/par into believing it's par.exe, then it'd just work 02:16
(it requires installing PAR on the win32 tree first)
malverian autrijus: Gotcha..
autrijus: I do have that as well.
autrijus but the $Config{so} would be wrong so .dll probing may be a problem
i.e. it'd be trying to include .so not .dll files 02:17
obra We really need the next rev of PAR-related tools
autrijus so you need to use the target's %Config as well
that's all
obra: like, a portable bytecode? ;)
obra heh
no.
autrijus (which would Just Fix everything)
obra I'm still good with p5 ;)
malverian autrijus: If I made a patch that would allow a runtime option to use onfig from a specific host, would you make use of it? 02:18
Eg.. --config-host=win32 or some such.. (I've not looked at the internals of par/pp so I don't know what names/flags would be relevant, but if I take the time to do so, I'll send you a patch.
autrijus no, I won't make use of patches 02:19
malverian I just wanted to be sure there wasn't already a hidden feature that did this before I put time into it.
autrijus a commit bit is on your way
svn repo is svn.openfoundry.org/par/trunk
just commit ahead :)
consult [email@hidden.address] for design discussions if you need, but otherwise just commit 02:20
wolverian sigh. university is hampering my sleep schedule. why should I sleep at nights? these are the best hours.
malverian nods.
autrijus malverian at gentoo org?
malverian That's me, but I prefer: perl at rabidgeek com 02:21
autrijus ok, drop the first committer bit invitation mailthen and answer then second 02:22
malverian I'll see if I can get something working tonight before the woman finishes her drawing assignment.
autrijus you are a metacommitter; so if you feel like to enlist others, invite them as admins too at rt.openfoundry.org/Foundry/Project/.../?Queue=28 02:23
good luck... I really need to run to work.
& 02:24
malverian Thanks autrijus, have a good one. 02:25
02:38 scw_ is now known as scw
malverian This is going to be difficult.. oy. 02:46
ex-chip hi all. 04:10
04:10 ex-chip is now known as chip
chip (ping anybody who knows about Pugs Parrot targeting) 04:10
d3mi4n jh 04:28
Khisanth hmm this parrot build looks a bit strange 04:31
in fact it looks like it's trying to fork an infinite number of procs :) 04:32
chip well, that would be strange ... for most programs
Khisanth this was just from trying to do a "make clean" :/ 04:36
ah had to rerun Configure.pl 04:42
autrijus chip: I have ~5 minutes if that helps :) 05:48
05:49 _brentp is now known as brentp
obra autrijus: don't forget: parrot sketch in 12 hours 05:50
autrijus obra: roger 05:56
obra :) 06:12
nothingmuch autrijus: ping 06:18
autrijus nothingmuch: pong 06:24
nothingmuch unwelcome forward to reality, or something... weird journalling
but seriously
Term::VT102::Boundless
it's on the CPAN and HTML::FromANSI should use it
want to give me comaint?
autrijus giving 06:25
nothingmuch yummy fufu
anyway, i must be off to work
feel better, autrijus-san
autrijus danke
autrijus is @ work and is about to go out as well
gaal autrijus: hi, missing context for your troubles but hope things get better :-) 06:26
autrijus it will :)
nothingmuch: comaintainership is yours. enjoy!
autrijus waves &
nothingmuch ciao!
gaal: journal
gaal yours? i saw that entry the other day...? 06:27
nothingmuch no
autrijus's
why is CPAN so slow 06:30
gaal see /msg
Khisanth there were a bunch of comments yesterday about PAUSE being paused :)
nothingmuch aye 06:31
since yesterday i've uploaded 6 new modules
so i'm very upset about this =)
obra heh 06:33
what's your favorite?
nothingmuch fav?
obra of the new modules
nothingmuch oh 06:34
possibly Catalyst::Plugin::Session::PerUser for it's DWIM goodness or Catalyst::Plugin::Authorization::ACL because it's hella-cool
obra I'll have to have a look 06:36
and next month, I'll have to sell you on something better than Catalyst ;)
What are you using for cat sessions? 06:44
nothingmuch Catalyst::Plugin::Session 06:47
(which I also wrote ;-)
gotta go to work
obra ok 06:49
It'd be cool to have a good base session handler that's not tied to one framework
r0nny yo 09:39
is therre a way, to find the name of the actual script with full path ? 09:40
azuroth what's the runtime twigil? @? 09:41
wolverian ? I think 09:43
azuroth S05 thinks that's "compiler hint". hmm
oh well. r0nny: I'd expect it might be in $+OS or $?OS or something? 09:44
wolverian S02 you mean?
azuroth heyy, good catch 09:45
don't know why I thought this page I had open was 5, not 2...
wolverian maybe you had it open backwards
azuroth hehehe
$?OS - os compiled under $*OS - os running under. cool 09:47
wolverian hum. then it's *
r0nny bur whgat about the script name ??
azuroth I can only imagine it's in one of the fancy * global vars 09:48
gaal ?eval $*PROGRAM_NAME
yoohoo? evalbot? 09:49
anyway, r0nny, if you want to peek these things are mostly defined in Pugs.Run 09:50
r0nny DARN
$?FILE is allways the actual file 09:51
wolverian shouldn't that be the file it was originally compiled to? ;)
r0nny and it hasnt got the fill path
full 09:52
what is the difference betwen a module, and a class - after reading some stiff i got problems understanding 10:08
anyone ?? 10:10
wolverian module is not OO. ;) 10:12
r0nny hmm 10:13
File::Fils locks as if it was oo
btw - would it mind if i define classes like class FOO:BAR::BAZ; ?? 10:15
S12 tells something about - but im not sure what it means 10:16
nothingmuch autrijus: ping 12:59
gaal ?eval "it's alive!" 13:56
13:56 Aankh|Clone is now known as Aankhen``
gaal who runs evalbot? 13:57
Aankhen`` iblech?
rafl gaal: lpalmer, afaik. 14:18
gaal are junction eigenstates specified in p6? 16:49
robkinyon i remember reading something about them in the appropriate apocalypse/synopsis 16:50
but, i don't think it's being implemented as Q::SP is in P5
gaal L<S02/Junctive Operators> doesn't mention them. 16:51
chip autrijus: I was given to understand that all gcc platforms implement exceptions with a static table, but perhaps it's only the ELF/DWARF targets 18:49
the idea is to register try{} areas and corresponding catch labels with a static table, since the try areas are actually known at compile time in their entirety 18:50
svnbot6 r8012 | fglock++ | * /docs/notes/laziness.txt - "List" vs "Tuple"; 20:20
r8012 | fglock++ | reorganization of sections.
r8013 | kane++ | * update section on dependency engine, add explenations
r8013 | kane++ | * add section on repo_* scripts and pretty printers
r8014 | kane++ | * new update date -- major change
fglock why are the commits being resubmitted sometimes? (I didn't send r8012) 20:31
obra maybe an smerge? 20:32
fglock hi obra 20:35
obra hey flavio 20:36
dduncan fglock, ... 20:37
that same problem has happened to me, twice so far
seems svk related ... it never happened with plain svn
and it happened when using 'svk push' 20:38
integral
.oO( svn doesn't have smerge )
dduncan I assume yours cited some files with a flag 'g'?
fglock dduncan: I'm using svn, and sometimes TortoiseSVN, but not svk 20:39
DesreveR yo 20:40
dduncan I used plain svn in the past, and moved to plain svk a month ago 20:41
fglock did anyone read laziness.txt? there are some concepts I'm not sure about 20:42
dduncan fglock, unless you never committed those changes at all, this actually isn't a duplicate 20:43
svnbot6 is just late in reporting them ... I downloaded those updates an hour ago
according to my log, they only appeared once
8012 thru 8014
fglock dduncan: the latest commit was >24h
dduncan so svnbot was late
unless you can cite 2 commit numbers with the same change, there was no duplicate ... 20:44
by contrast, the 2 times I said it happened to me, there were 2 commit numbers for each
fglock dduncan: found it - there is the same message in the IRC log yesterday, about 10:00 20:45
geoffb Doesn't svnbot have a habit of reporting "recent" commits when it reconnects? 20:46
dduncan yes, svnbot reported it twice, but note that the commit number is the same, 8012, so the commit only occurred once 20:48
that's the important part
integral the revision number is unique in the repository fglock. If there's only one number, it only happened once. Stuff that happens on IRC has little relevance to what's really happening :) 21:07
fglock I've missed the discussion that added 'tuple' to the language - I'd like to know what was the reason, and find out if my definition makes sense 21:09
21:34 Lopo_ is now known as Lopo
nothingmuch spam spam spam use.perl.org/~nothingmuch/journal/27778 spam spam 23:41
Limbic_Region_ I bet theorbtwo will be interested in that spam 23:42
he entered the same contest but didn't fare as well
nothingmuch he can actually be found lurking on #mightyv on irc.perl.org ;-)
Limbic_Region_ heh 23:43
as soon as I pointed out that entry he thought they might win
nothingmuch well, nighty night 23:44
time to go zzzzzz 23:45

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