pugscode.org/ | nopaste: sial.org/pbot/perl6 | ?eval [~] <m oo se> | We do Haskell, too | > reverse . show $ foldl1 (*) [1..4]
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svnbot6 r16700 | lwall++ | more tutorial whackage 01:02
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Eidolos can someone send me a commit bit? [email@hidden.address] 01:18
TimToady attempting to load commitbit
what do you want for a user name?
Eidolos sartak please :) 01:19
and thanks!
TimToady hmm, load avg is 9 on feather, so it's marginal at the moment 01:20
in theory is send a bit now 01:22
*sending 01:25
Eidolos OK, I'll keep an eye on my inbox 01:26
got it, thanks again :)
TimToady good, webpage hasn't returned yet... 01:27
Eidolos yeah I'm still loading the URL it gave me 01:28
TimToady I slightly niced audreyt's pugs build processes, so load avg seems to be dropping a bit 01:29
on the other hand, I saw a "trac" process...
no, it was a trac disable, nevermind
Eidolos hehe
ooh, got a <title>! 01:30
TimToady anyway, usual spiel, add yourself to AUTHORS as first commit, welcome aboard! 01:31
Eidolos dances
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Aankhen`` moritz: I appreciate the sentiment, but all I've done is to tweak the JavaScript. The smartlinks are agentzh's baby. :-) 01:43
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Aankhen`` moritz: For the IRC logs, instead of inserting spaces in URIs, how about truncating them instead? 05:21
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svnbot6 r16701 | Darren_Duncan++ | ext/Muldis-DB/ : this is the Perl 6 equivalent of what will end up on CPAN as Muldis::DB version 0.0.0 for Perl 5 05:25
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moritz Aankhen``: no, truncating URLs would be an information loss 07:17
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Aankhen`` moritz: Not if they're linked. You show the truncated version, link to the full version. 07:21
<a href="this.is.a.really.long.domain.name.b...</a> 07:23
lambdabot this.is.a.really.long.domain.name.b...</a>
Aankhen`` stares at lambdabot
.
< and > really oughtn't to be matched as part of a URI. 07:24
" and ' probably shouldn't either.
moritz Aankhen``: I'm not entirely convinced... as soon as somebody constructs an example URL to show somebody how to pass GET parameters to cpan (or something) that will look weird in the logs... 07:25
Aankhen``: but I'll moose about it for a while ;) 07:26
Aankhen`` Trueā€¦ it just seemed weird to have URIs broken up by inserting spaces.
moritz does HTML have any "break-but-not-display"-spaces? 07:27
kind of inverted nobreakspace?
Aankhen`` Unicode has soft hyphens, but the problem is that they're not very well supported in browsers. 07:28
moritz hates browsers
Aankhen`` Heh.
moritz the absence of browser would make web design much more easy ;) 07:29
Aankhen`` LOL.
moritz Aankhen``: I assume you know www.i-marco.nl/weblog/images/breakdown.png ?
Aankhen`` ROTFLMAO. 07:30
Very accurate.
Though I'd take out the "swearing" bit for me, but the rest are fine.
moritz I can confirm even the swearing ;) 07:31
Aankhen`` Heh. 07:33
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Aankhen`` Hmm. 07:34
moritz: On a tangentially related note, what about using a fixed-width font for the logs? :-)
moritz Aankhen``: good idea 07:35
Aankhen`` May I recommend: font-family: Consolas, "Lucida Console", "Courier New", monospace;
moritz Aankhen``: you are welcome to add that the CSS file ;)
Aankhen`` (I can't remember the suggested font for Linux, for some reason.) 07:36
Aankhen`` gets to it.
moritz monospace will do on linux ;)
Aankhen`` A'right.
moritz I like the "verdana bitstream" fonts on linux, there is monospace version of that as well
Aankhen`` Hmm, I don't think that was the one I was thinking of.
Tene moritz: quite accurate! ;) 07:37
moritz Aankhen``: btw the changes will not appear until I do a 'svn up' on my server, so don't dispair if it doesn't seem to work ;) 07:38
Aankhen`` No sweat.
Mind if I do some hacking on it in general? 07:39
I get an itch in my fingers every time I see HTML.
moritz go right ahead
Aankhen`` Yey.
OK.
moritz HTML-Junky ;) 07:43
svnbot6 r16702 | Aankhen++ | misc/irclog/cgi:
r16702 | Aankhen++ | * fixed a typo.
r16702 | Aankhen++ | * use a fixed-width font for the logs.
moritz I'm not sure if that's more readable 07:45
anyway, I'm off to receive my examination results... or something ;) 07:46
Aankhen`` moritz: Good luck. :-) 07:57
moritz: I dunno, IRC logs just look weird to me in variable-width fonts. I guess it's a personal preference. 07:58
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moritz @tell Aankhen`` let's just wait for more feedback 08:09
lambdabot Consider it noted.
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Aankhen`` moritz: One thing to consider, though, is that code looks rotten in variable-width fonts. :-P 08:15
moritz right 08:16
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unobe moritz, Aankhen``: I like the fixed-width font :-) 08:54
Aankhen`` :-D
moritz Aankhen``++
Aankhen`` moritz++ # I just tweaked it, the work was all yours, as always ;-) 08:55
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moritz Aankhen``: humble as always... but you _did_ commit the fixed font change ;) 08:56
Aankhen`` Well, yes, but the point is that as usual, I merely refined on someone else's work. It's like someone else builds a car and I polish the door handles.
moritz and if people like polished door handles, they credit you 08:57
it's that easy ;)
Aankhen`` ^_^
I meant to hack on the page some more, but I got sidetracked.
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masak moritz: more feedback: I prefer fixed-width, by far 09:03
especially code and ASCII art are a lot nicer
moritz masak: thank you 09:04
so it's 3:0 for fixed with font, my own vote not included (because I'm not sure yet)
s/with/width/
moritz mooses about using single line substitution regexes to modify the previous line of the author ;) 09:05
Aankhen`` Well, see if this makes you feel any differently: I would not suggest for a second that a fixed-width font is more readable than a variable-width font, but I think fixed-width is much better where there's any chance of code or otherwise alignment-sensitive text. 09:06
moritz is convinced ;)
Aankhen`` Heh.
Regarding substitution regexes: it's a great idea, but people seem to be way too loose with the syntax they use. :-P 09:07
moritz I know, I wasn't entirely serious about them ;) 09:09
Aankhen`` Ah well. 09:10
It would be nice to have, though.
Except for data loss, of course.
Wait, you wouldn't have to lose data.
`ins` and `del` to the rescue!
moritz s/^.*$//
and doing a diff, YaY
Aankhen`` Indeed. ^_^ 09:11
moritz only nerds get such an idea ;)
Aankhen`` Hey, you're in #perl6 now buddy. You don't get to use the N word!
moritz for me that's not negatively connotated 09:12
Aankhen`` Ah.
I always thought of "nerd" as a rather negative word.
"geek" seemed to be the positive oen.
One, even. 09:13
moritz maybe my notion is just screwed up ;) 09:14
ok, s/nerd/geek/ ;-)
Aankhen`` Nah, it seems to be a debatable thing.
I've come across the alternative viewpoint in the past.
s/debatable/subjective/, sorry.
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Aankhen`` Hmm, topic should probably point to the logs too. 09:25
moritz why?
pugscode.org points there
Aankhen`` Ah, good point.
Pun not intended.
moritz ;)
of course not ;)
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gaal moose! 13:55
moritz mosse indeed!
gaal hey moritz :) 13:56
moritz hi hi
gaal happy solstice
moritz ah, right 13:57
thanks ;)
gaal it's all downhill from here...
moritz yes, on sunday I'll go down to the south ;)
and enjoy the warmth in germany ;) 13:58
but that's not what you meant, i presume
gaal urrr, here it's warm enough
heh, I meant I like long days, and now they'll start getting shorter.
moritz here in edinburgh it's around 15..20Ā°C
[particle] 16hrs of daylight today here 13:59
gaal oh, you're in Embra? what a nice city
moritz only on the northern hemisphere
gaal: yes, one year of studying abroad
gaal yeah, bsb's probably glad it'll start getting longer
moritz gaal: and atm the debconf is here ;)
gaal oh, cool
looks like I'm missing OSCON by an inch 14:00
moritz the other day I heard some interesting talks... about opensolars+debian, fully automated installers and other fancy stuff ;)
gaal mmm, DTrace...
moritz and ZFS
but they have some evis stuff there as well 14:01
depending on an evinronment variable, the call either linux- or solaris binaries
that understand different command line options
gaal /usr/ucb ps aux
s, ,/,
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pmurias hi 14:34
fglock pmurias: hi
gaal hey pmurias, fglock 14:35
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svnbot6 r16703 | moritz++ | [irclog] added paging to the search results, on agentzh++'s request 14:52
moritz I guess the search is so slow because I don't have any index on any columns 14:54
is there a "mysql indexes for dummies"-Tutorial somewhere?
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pmurias fglock: i read your Request for kp6 architecture review 15:05
fglock pmurias: you are the first person to admit it
pmurias ;)
moritz I think pmichaud admitteted it indirectly as well ;) 15:06
is that a property of persons who's nick start with ^pm? 15:07
pmurias the visitor pattern seems fine to me, defining the ast in EmitPerl6 and EmitPerl5 is a bit strange
fglock pmurias: yes, this needs a rearrange
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pmurias putting COMPILER:: in a seperate file might help kp6-perl5.pl a bit more readeable 15:10
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pmurias not sure where should it be placed 15:15
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fglock pmurias: I mean to translate it to mp6, for reusability - it belongs to the compiler, not the runtime 15:17
pmurias kp6-perl5 or COMPILER::? 15:19
fglock both, actually - but COMPILER is more important; kp6-perl5 is a bit perl5-specific 15:20
I've got a looong list of to-do tasks - that's why I decided to pause and make a grand plan 15:21
the roadmap is already obsolete, btw 15:22
the critical path is no longer the regex engine; it can reuse PGE/PCR; the kp6-regex will only be needed by JVM and the like 15:23
same for the object system, with parrot-OO and perl5-Moose
this will simplify things 15:24
jvm/javascript/python can be developed as bonus tasks 15:25
and this will likely increase the collaboration with the parrot team 15:26
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fglock lunch & 15:28
pmurias kp6-perl5 should report syntax error instead of die'ing with a strange error message 15:31
s/syntax/a syntax/ 15:32
svnbot6 r16704 | pmurias++ | syntax error reporting 15:37
pmurias argh.. forgot kp6- prefix in the log message.. 15:38
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fglock pmurias: ping 16:00
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fglock pmurias: in case you backlog: 16:05
about "defining the ast in EmitPerl6 and EmitPerl5 is a bit strange",
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fglock the AST is not defined there, it's a kind of "aspect oriented programming" 16:06
it's telling the nodes how to emit code
moritz pmurias++ # contributing to kp6 16:08
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pmurias fglock: pong 16:15
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ibrown weee 16:15
pmurias weeee
ibrown how goes this am? 16:16
[particle] wiii
fglock pmurias: did you see what I said about EmitPerl6? 16:17
pmurias yes
but the generated code defines it none the less 16:20
it could be a source of confusion if someone changes one of the definition without the other 16:22
fglock you mean the acessors? yes, that's a mistake
hmm - right, I can't detect this kind of error 16:23
ibrown if i were to take an image, ftp that image, then remove that image. with a simple like few line perl script, how would i ensure the delete doesn't happen before the transfer completes? 16:24
may sound stupid yes. but sometimes it appears the delete happens before the ftp finishes. is that what "callbacks" should be used for? 16:25
pmurias when is EmitPerl6 used?
does one have to explicitly mark reopening of classes in perl6? 16:27
fglock I don't think so 16:28
re EmitPerl6 - looking
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pmurias a grep dosn't find anything 16:29
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pmurias sorry mistake, it does 16:30
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fglock pmurias: it looks like it is used for implementing Code.perl() only 16:32
pmurias i'll add an --perl6 flag 16:33
fglock ok
ibrown: re ftp, I don't think you can get that information 16:35
moritz but on linux that shouldn't be a problem if the transfer isn't aborted.. you can call unlink() on an open filehandle without destroying something 16:36
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mico got the book on Perl6 an Parrot from Amazon today. I love it, It makes Perl seem simple :-9 16:38
TimToady 'course, I'm just in the process of fixing all that. :)
moritz mico: that was open sourced the other day ;) 16:39
svnbot6 r16705 | pmurias++ | kp6 - --perl6 flag
moritz mico: and indeed it is easy - at least parts of it ;) 16:40
TimToady moritz: you can occasionally get into trouble with NFS
mico I am thinking a lot about Perl 6, I have to write a 200 page book in Italian
moritz TimToady: yes, NFS is evil ;)
TimToady and Windows is a different animal completely 16:41
usually you run into a hard lock there
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moritz I won't comment an Windows' evilness ;) 16:41
args what about VMS then. 16:42
moritz I don't know anything about it, just that it exists ;)
and it has a reputation for being... different as well ;) 16:43
TimToady biab & 16:44
pmurias wishes he could get VML working with IE under wine ;) 16:45
fglock pmurias: if you want to take a look at another point, we were discussing yesterday: moritz.faui2k3.org/irclog/out.pl?ch...20#id_l547
lambdabot Title: IRC log for #perl6, 2007-06-20, tinyurl.com/22mkm6
fglock this is about the way kp6 processes BEGIN blocks 16:48
pmurias i need too make a breake from the computer(vision getting blury), so i'll likely look into it tomorrow 16:49
bye&
fglock omg, is it a kp6 side-effect? 16:52
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mico args, last time I touched VMS I did a mail merge in Fortran. Looked like windows but much better 17:11
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ibrown Net::FTP needs a callback of sorts 18:08
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diakopter twimc: www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp...ead=208549 18:10
lambdabot Title: Python 3000 Status Update (Long!)
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moritz_ re 18:16
ibrown hey moritz, can you peep a url for me right quick tell me why the loop might be roxored? 18:18
sial.org/pbot/25707 18:19
lambdabot Title: Paste #25707 from "ibrown" at 63.175.130.15
moritz_ peeping...
ibrown thanks man
its annoying.
moritz_ which of these is line 23?
ibrown the while loop 18:21
sorry 18:22
moritz_ sorry, but I can't tell that without context and testing 18:23
first you should try to get rid of that warning - it tells you that something is terribly wrong 18:24
do you 'use strict; use warnings;' ?
ibrown yeah 18:25
2 secs
moritz_ and for the looping.. maybe if you transfer in text mode, some line endings may change, thus never resulting in equally sized files
ibrown cause the way it's setup right now, i lose some images. 18:29
like 1/2 the image on occasion
i'm assuming cause the ftp session disconnected.
moritz_ ibrown: I think your approach is wrong.. transmit all data, then check on the remote host if it was transfered OK, and only then delete data 18:31
ibrown i'm using net::ftp tho
so isn't ftp->put($file) equiv. of doing it that way? 18:32
or does that method not have a callback -> launches process of sending, and goes to next line in script
moritz_ you should test the return status of ftp->put 18:33
ibrown with eval?
moritz_ no
my $return_status = $ftp->put($file)
ibrown sorry, i suck at error checking 18:34
then if return_status = 1 it's success tru?
moritz_ at least that's what I'm guessing while skimming over the docs
ibrown: no. Read that documentation 18:35
ibrown kk 2 secs
moritz_ it tells you what it returns on success
ibrown ugh. it's annoying, i got this db to rebuild and i have to fix this damn script i shouldn't have written the way i wrote it months and months ago lol
oh so it says it returns the remote filename if none was given 18:36
so i guess that means the value would be the filename passed to put
is that a syntaxual thing, where, the cmd waits for eval when you store result into array? 18:37
or is that just me being a retard newb?
oh shit
you know what
the ftp_put routine.
after the put ,i had $ftp->quit
i'm a moron
dammit 18:38
moritz_ ibrown: I don't know that ftp_put is, never seen its definition
s/that/what/
ibrown its my home-grown routine 18:40
sub ftp_put($){
my ($filename,$ftp) = @_;
print $filename, "\t:filename\n";
my $put_return = $ftp->put($filename)
or die "Cannot get file $filename \n", $ftp->message;
print $put_return, " is the return\n";
#$ftp->quit;
}
just the simple put. j00 kno
i like to organize the code into 2 sections. 18:41
moritz_ sorry, but you are doing bs here ;)
compare the first two lines
ibrown no i'm all about help homey.
moritz_ ftp_put($) declares it needs one parameter 18:42
ibrown i've taught myself perl as much as i know it now, without mailing lists/irc or people to teach me
moritz_ and in the next you are reading two parameters out of @_
ibrown yeah, i just changed the script adding a function for connect/disconnect
moritz_ no, your general concept is fine, only these two lines are bogging me
ibrown oh 18:43
yeah i was adjusting the paramaters, added the ftp_put require $ftp variable 18:44
so i could do the actual connect earlier, and pass the var around.
previously, the whole foreach of files was one routine, and it would chop images off
pasteling "ibrown" at 63.175.130.15 pasted "Whole Bo-Bo" (68 lines, 1.6K) at sial.org/pbot/25708 18:45
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ibrown that's the URL to the whole thing 18:46
so you can kinda get a grasp as to what i was trying to explain.
i know i didn't need a heredoc either, i just like them kinda
i think that'll work now tho correctly, hopefully the picdesk will get off my ass now 18:47
awesome. its chugging along now. 18:56
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Coke Gothmog_: you're not andrew, are you? 19:02
evalbot_r16702: say undef.WHAT
?eval say undef.WHAT
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evalbot_r16705 OUTPUT[Scalarā¤] Bool::True 19:02
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Coke ?eval say some_missing_func() 19:14
evalbot_r16705 Error: No such subroutine: &some_missing_func
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svnbot6 r16706 | fglock++ | [kp6] fixed <?? !!> in EmitPerl6 output 19:52
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svnbot6 r16707 | fglock++ | [kp6] kp6-perl5.pl - AST handling cleanup 20:22
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Juerd It's never gonna make it in 5 :) 20:44
wolverian uh oh, feather's rebooting.. everyone /layout save; /save quickly! 20:45
Juerd It's so damned slow :( 20:46
wolverian what is? 20:47
Juerd feather
wolverian oh. yeah.
Juerd I still don't know what exactly makes it so slow.
memory test goes well, harddisks work at full speed, raid array works at full speed, the system is responsive
Network works well and at low latency
But *programs* go wrong
There's no rootkit, according to two checkers 20:48
wolverian maybe a reboot will fix it :) 20:50
Juerd It's been rebooted before 20:51
Creating ramfs... 20:54
This may break at reboot :(
initrd needs modules, I don't know which. 20:55
Let's hope udev is sufficient
wolverian sounds scary, whatever you're doing 20:56
Juerd Argh. I'm just stopping the timer 20:57
Until it's done
I hadn't expected it to be so slow during update-initramfs
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Juerd Feather problem found 22:12
TimToady board order on bus?
Juerd Defective memory module
TimToady ah
Juerd Was still working, but incredibly slowing down the entire system 22:13
TimToady continuous interrupts, likely...
Juerd The thing was too hot to touch initially - 75 celcius.
[IR thermometer]++
So feather is up with 1 GB now.
TimToady if something interrupts continuously it can appear to work but interfere with everything... 22:14
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Juerd Better to have little RAM at usable speed than lots of RAM without being able to use it :) 22:14
TimToady anyway, yay
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Juerd Does anyone want to donate RAM? :) 22:14
TimToady I only have CAMEL
moritz_ Juerd: is there a chance to reactivate trac?
Juerd There's probably a pun in there, but I don't recognise it :)
[particle] juerd: fb-dimms? 22:15
Juerd moritz_: Let's see what happens if we do that :)
pasteling: DDR1
moritz_ Juerd: and perhaps forbid it with robots.txt to reduce load
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Juerd If only I could remember how I disabled it :) 22:16
TimToady the other day I saw a process name that say something like perl.disable.trac 22:17
*said
Juerd Yes, I see the file, but don't know how it's called :)
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Juerd Ah. I didn't do this :)
TimToady hmm, commitbit.pugscode.org/admin/project/Pugs/people gets a proxy error 22:21
so does the bare name
Juerd moritz_: Trac is enabled now.
TimToady "connection refused"
Juerd But it's still dog slow.
TimToady did you change IP addr? 22:22
Juerd TimToady: No. It probably means that someone, a user, hasn't made their webserver reboot proof.
TimToady odd to get a connection refused from it if that's the case 22:23
Juerd Not really.
That just means there's nothing listening on the specified port
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Juerd Which is port 6666 22:23
daxim_ gets his kicks on port 6666
TimToady on feather?
Juerd TimToady: Yes. 22:26
I don't know who had a server running on that port
TimToady commitbit.pugscode.org and feather.perl6.nl are the same machine! 22:28
oh, I understand what you were saying earlier now. it's commitbit itself that isn't rebootproof 22:32
hmm
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moritz_ but at least it replies fast ;) 22:32
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Juerd tries to backup the data again 22:32
That hasn't worked the past few days 22:33
It took more than a day to do just the root filesystem, without the homedirs...
moritz_ btw speaking of load... one of the packages.debian.org servers had a load of > 3000 shortly after reboot ;) 22:34
Juerd Wow
Highest I've ever seen is 1015
moritz_ not too bad either ;)
fork while fork ;-)
and you're there... but then you can't run `uptime` any more to monitor it *g* 22:35
Juerd Uhhuh 22:36
This was on an actual production machine, dieing from broken hardware
The output of uptime(1) was the last thing it ever displayed before it crashed showing a 80x25 grid of colourful random characters, some of them blinking 22:37
TimToady I think we want to run /data/svn/commitbit as user www-data, probably. does anyone else know any better?
Juerd I think /data/svn/* is the repository and must not be executed
TimToady hmm 22:38
Juerd There's probably a checkout somewhere
TimToady probably audreyt's copy then
Juerd Perhaps :)
Will at least be safer to try 22:39
TimToady but I do know it was running as user www-data, not as audreyt 22:40
moritz_ why shouldn't programs in the repository be executed?
Juerd moritz_: Because it may detect from where it's running, and drop state files there. 22:42
moritz_ Juerd: good point 22:46
Juerd Or worse: change them :)
I don't think svn likes it when you start changing its data without notifying it :)
Which is one of the reasons that I want to make feather a virtual machine of which I can take snapshots 22:47
Another reason is that I can then reboot the hardware without rebooting the operating system you guys use.
Which, given how "well" people make things reboot proof, would be a great improvement.
But it first needs more memory :)
And, when it runs xen, important things can be moved to a more secure virtual machine 22:48
TimToady there is only one executable commitbit on the machine, it seems, and that's in /data 22:49
(according to locate) 22:50
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TimToady possibly it's run under some other name, like jifty... 22:51
Juerd TimToady: But locate's database hasn't been updated in a while, because of load issues. It's currently updating, but scanning the entire filesystem takes a while 22:56
TimToady ah, that might explain why I'm getting more results as time goes on... 22:59
moritz_ feather's "fast" again, p6-on-parrot passing sanity, more life on p6l and p6c - looks like a good time for perl 6
Juerd Nah, someone's just hacking a lot of code in a very short time span
moritz_: As for real speed, a hardware upgrade would be nice but since I'm almost bankrupt, I can't do that 23:00
So it's "fast", not fast.
moritz_ Juerd: I know
Juerd I'd like to upgrade it to a dual core system with 4 GB ram, one day. 23:01
moritz_ Juerd: you should ask if you could get a microgrant for hardware, as you already pondered
Juerd Yea
moritz_ and pmichaud gained a few contributers, thats (perl6)++ as well ;)
and fglock gained a kp6-contributer ;) 23:02
TimToady hmm, root is running two finds at once. that's gotta hurt... 23:03
Juerd Cache should make it not hurt. 23:04
Tene presuming they're accessing the same parts at the same time, or that all accessed parts completely fit into cache.
TimToady maybe they're on different filesystems...
diakopter I started mine before Juerd's :P
TimToady nope, they look identical 23:05
diakopter updatedb, I mean
Juerd diakopter: You're also running updatedb.
Heh.
I'm killing mine then.
TimToady sigh...once an SA, always an SA... :) 23:06
Juerd SA?
TimToady Sysadmin
sez someone who spent an inordinate amount of time upgrading to F7 over the last week
and still can't get gnome working on his laptop... 23:07
Juerd And trac, I don't know how it was written, in what language and using what methods 23:08
But it SUCKS, performance-wise.
diakopter python
Juerd My god, that's a heavy CGI.
The CGI regularly uses up to 45 MB of RAM, and takes a few *seconds* to load. 23:09
I saw it has a fcgi equivalent. Anyone interested in making it work with that?
diakopter either fcgi or mod_python would help... 23:11
hmm well, current lore dictates the use of tracd 23:13
(over mod_python and fcgi)
Juerd diakopter: Can you make that happen? 23:14
I'm off to bed
Good night, or whichever localtime!
diakopter Juerd: ok 23:15
moritz_ Juerd: sleep well ;)
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diakopter updatedb runneth still 23:20
Juerd [email@hidden.address] 23:36
63.251.223.176 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 the lights are out (sf)
Giving up on 63.251.223.176.
obra: Do you know why [email@hidden.address] isn't functional (see previous 4 lines) 23:37
afk
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