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Set by TimToady on 25 January 2008.
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loggg Think I got my question answered. Parrot currently can't support library calls. Oh well... painless calling of external libraries is _THE_ reason I'm interested in perl6. 02:00
I have one other. What's the syntax for making such a call? GL::glut::glutinit(argc, argv); ? Maybe ::usr::lib::GL::glut::glutinit(argc, argv); ? 02:03
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Alias_ Can someone that is registered please /msg Phobian for me and tell him to join channel #adamk 03:39
Sorry for the total offtopic, but someone is trying to prvmsg me that isn't in any channels :(
SamB Alias_: done... 03:41
Alias_ Thanks
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SamB Alias_: did he do it ? 03:56
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Alias_ nope 04:01
I assume he's afk
Thanks anyways
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riffraff hi 09:55
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xinming TimToady: In perl 6, will there be a unbless fuction built-in please? 11:57
TimToady: Since when we do bless $ref, $class, will make a object, will we be able to unbless the object and turn it into a nromal structure? In perl 5, there is an unbless implemention. But not built-in, Just hope if they can be built-in. 12:00
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TimToady xinming: the problem is that "everything is an object" in perl 6, so all you can do is turn it into a different object, like an Array. :) 14:35
syle in perl6 for high concurrency servers we looking at threading implementation or events? 14:38
www.usenix.org/events/hotos03/tech/...index.html 14:39
lambdabot Title: HotOS IX &#151; Paper, tinyurl.com/gd5hv
TimToady both, at different levels in your program 14:40
sometimes it's easier to express what you want in threads, and sometimes in events
see www.seas.upenn.edu/~lipeng/homepage/unify.html 14:41
lambdabot Title: Unifying events and threads
[particle2 also see svn.perl.org/parrot/trunk/docs/pdds...rrency.pod and /docs/pdds/pdd24_events.pod 14:42
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xinming TimToady: thanks for the clarification, I forgot about that "Every thing in perl 6 is an object". 15:01
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wolverian reads specdoc 15:19
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rindolf Hi all. 20:07
TimToady: here?
TimToady: have you looked at Arc yet? It's a very cool Lisp dialect, IMO. 20:08
TimToady: but it has a lot to go until it's usable.
pmurias rindolf: what cool features does arc have? 20:13
rindolf pmurias: well, its primary selling point is that its very succinct.
pmurias: also it has (+ for concat, addition, etc. like in Python.
pmurias: which while not suitable for Perl, I feel it belongs in Lisp. 20:14
pmurias: at the moment it's lacking a lot of stuff.
pmurias + for concat sucks 20:15
rindolf pmurias: and for example you can do (with (msg "Hello" id 1) (def myfunc () (+ msg id))) to define a global function which is a closure.
pmurias: like { my $msg = "Hello" ; my $id = 0 ; sub { ... } } in Perl. 20:16
pmurias: and it has macros.
pmurias it's my $id = 1 in perl ;) 20:18
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rindolf pmurias: it's not tested. 20:20
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pmurias looked at python code i wrote when i was 13 today ;) 20:26
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wolverian pmurias, python 1? :) 20:31
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pmurias wolverian: i'm 18 ;) 20:32
wolverian eek.
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pmurias so it was python 2.3 20:37
ispy_ barf... 20:39
sorry, excuse me...
pmurias ispy_: shouldn't mention python here? 20:40
ispy_ haha... 20:41
Nah... just messing. I code in Python for work a bit. Although, it's obvious what I prefer :) 20:42
wolverian I don't get a barf reaction from python anymore, really 20:43
either my standards have lowered or matlab just showed me what a truly terrifying language is like
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wolverian only individual features make me barf nowadays :) (like the 'self.' spam in python) 20:44
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ispy_ haha... That's true. I've actually learned to like the language. I just won't do anything serious with it unless I have too. 20:47
For work I pretty much stick with Perl, C, Python... in that order.
For pleasure, Perl 90% of the time unless the solution calls for C.
My C skills could use a little sharpening too. 20:49
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xinming I ever wish to learn python after I think I "learnt" perl. Later, I was amazed by perl's ability of expression, and also with it's so flexible syntax, I never think about python again. ;-) 20:50
ispy_ One of the major reasons why I love Perl :)
However, it's one of Perl's major downfalls too... but that's really subject to opinion and style. 20:51
Obviously, *we* see it as a strength. I know I do.
xinming I think people who like perl is kind of person who like too many features from all programming language. ;-) 20:54
pmurias it's better then missing the crucial one 20:56
c++ has a lot of features too, but I wouldn't say I like it 20:57
[particle] i really liked c++ in 1994 20:58
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wolverian reading the lojban grammar makes me think of perl6.. 22:06
Tene I wrote most of a lojban grammar in Perl 6 rules. 22:10
not sure where it is anymore, though.
wolverian how'd the longest token matching go?
Tene I don't recall having problems with it. 22:11
Don't think I quite got finished translating it, though.
wolverian mm
Tene It was based off of the PEG
wolverian oh, cool 22:14
I want to see a graph of that :) 22:16
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Tene Hmm... I wonder if I finished my script to generate pictures of rakudo's grammar. 22:32
I have a graph of rakudo's grammar and STD.pm, if you'd like.
wknight8111 i would actually like to see that 22:36
probably a pretty big graph
wolverian sure
Tene Bah, now I have to find them. Jerk.
[particle] tene-- # opening your big fat mouth :) 22:38
Tene ... apparently my apartment is offline.
Nevermind, I guess. I hope my roommate just tripped over the ethernet cable again or something equally easy to fix. 22:39
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