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Set by TimToady on 25 January 2008.
meppl good night 00:18
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pugs_svnbot r20312 | clkao++ | defer the actual bindings in Data::Bind::Sig::bind after we 06:59
r20312 | clkao++ | figure out what and where to bind for everything.
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20312
lambdabot Title: Changeset 20312 - Pugs - Trac
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pugs_svnbot r20313 | nothingmuch++ | refactor and expand tabs 07:06
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20313
lambdabot Title: Changeset 20313 - Pugs - Trac
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pugs_svnbot r20314 | clkao++ | * split bind() into prelare and finalize binding. 08:07
r20314 | clkao++ | * provide all_variable_names method.
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20314
lambdabot Title: Changeset 20314 - Pugs - Trac
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nwc10 does pugs implement state? 17:49
I've build rakudo and it does not :-(
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PerlJam so implement it for rakudo or bug the people working on rakudo for it. 17:50
nwc10 that wasn't actually an answer to my question.
PerlJam The best way to find out if pugs groks state is to either read the source or compile pugs and run a test program.
nwc10 I'm not in an easy position to compile pugs - I don't that that I have access to any machine with ghc on 17:51
the pugs evalbot died a long time ago?
PerlJam pugs seems to parse state just fine. 17:52
nwc10 cool. thanks. I'll bug someone to install ghc
so that I can (at some point) write regression tests for 5.11
PerlJam doesn't look like pugs groks initializer semantics though. 17:54
oh, wait. Yes is does
s/is/it/
silly me for writing a bogus test.
Tene nwc10: You should try asking about state in #parrot on irc.perl.org 17:56
nwc10 thanks 17:59
PerlJam yikes. someone needs to update the parrot installed on feather.
$ /usr/bin/parrot --version
This is parrot version 0.4.5-devel (r13933) built for i386-linux.
Juerd PerlJam: How about I give you access to do it yourself? :)
PerlJam Juerd: I was hoping you weren't listening ;) Sure, go ahead. 18:00
Juerd I have a highlight on "feather". Now you can avoid it in the future ;)
PerlJam heh
Juerd What is your login?
PerlJam duff
Juerd Your job description is now "keeping parrot up to date" 18:01
Let me know when/if you no longer want that
You may use sudo now
PerlJam wait a second ... I forgot about feather's split personality. Where is it describe what the various feathers are for? 18:02
(hoping I'm just on the wrong one ;)
Juerd Er, nowhere actually.
feather0 - domain 0 to manage the other feathers
feather1 - semi-public access shell box
feather2 - for important stuff like repositories and websites, but nobody is using this yet 18:03
feather3 - for dangerous stuff like evalbots
In general, bare "feather" refers to feather1.
PerlJam right, so does that mean I have sudo on them all or just feather1?
Juerd 1
PerlJam gotcha
Juerd If you need access to the other feathers, let me know. feather0 is Juerd only :) 18:04
PerlJam well, why isn't anyone using feather2?
Juerd Because nobody has tuits to move things around.
It was invented for the Pugs repository, the Pugs website, Commitbit, etc.
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Juerd It takes either someone who knows how those things work, or someone with sufficient tuits to find out. 18:05
And of course additional tuits to actually do it.
PerlJam My tuits are small and constantly interrupted by my wife or kids, so I may be able to pile enough of them together to do something useful with feather2 at some point.
Juerd Neat!
PerlJam anyway, that's for another day. right now, I need to stop procrastinating and get back to work. 18:06
pugs_svnbot r20315 | clkao++ | support default values.
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20315
lambdabot Title: Changeset 20315 - Pugs - Trac
PerlJam talk to you all later
PerlJam &
Juerd See ya, and thanks in advance for updating parrot
ruoso if someone is subscribed to perl6-all only... is there some restriction on posting to the other lists? or it's just the lists that have a huuge delay? 18:08
Juerd The lists are moderated. The delay is dependent on the tuits of the moderators
It may take up to a few days in severe circumstances. 18:09
ruoso oh... ok...
all the traffic? or non-subscribers only?
Juerd Fortunately they do whitelist :)
IIRC all not previously whitelisted posters, but perhaps subscribers are whitelisted automagically.
ruoso wonders if subscribing to -all puts you in the whitelist already... 18:10
Juerd Very probably not.
I think they're individual lists
ruoso :/ 18:11
ruoso not in the mood for unsubscribing all and subscribing each one right now... :|
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pmurias Juerd: they are moderated against spam? 18:14
Juerd I don't know against what exactly 18:15
Probably spam, abuse, trolls, etc :0
ruoso wonders if any moderators could be reached to whitelist me without having to switch the subscritions...
Juerd They'll see your message when they do their queue 18:16
If you need speedier communication NOW, you could bounce your message to other members manually.
ruoso nah... it's not that important... (if it makes there in any reasonable amount of time) 18:17
ruoso bbl & 18:18
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[particle] Juerd: i have little excuse not to ask for similar access 18:18
*to PerlJam 18:19
Juerd [particle]: What role description can I jot down for you? :) 18:20
(Recorded in /etc/sudoers)
[particle] parrot underlord. 18:21
Juerd Translate it to sysadmin speak please :)
Does this mean keeping it updated? 18:22
Testing? Bashing? :)
[particle] i wanna make sure parrot and rakudo are up to date and functional
Juerd Ok! 18:25
pasteling: You can now sudo 18:26
And thanks :)
[particle] pasteling probably won't do much sudoing :)
and thank you!
Juerd Er... The other pa[tab] 18:27
It's the circumfix [] that gives you lower priority in irssi, I think
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[particle] i had too many nick problems without the [] 18:28
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Juerd [particle]: For the record, I'm not complaining :) 18:37
[particle] sure. i am. :) 18:41
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pmurias what data structure should be used for sets in the subset construction algorithm? 19:25
* which 19:26
sets of nfa states which should be maped to a given dfa state
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pmurias more generally what set representations can be efficiently used as hash keys 19:37
?
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pmurias OT i hate google map api source code obfuscation, the errors from the api have really bad traces 19:50
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pmurias ruoso: what mailing list did you post to? 19:59
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ruoso pmurias, p6-lang 20:00
but it seems it wasn't approved yet... 20:01
pmurias :( 20:03
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ruoso pmurias, it was a reply to the polymorphism thread... 20:08
a clarification about how p6 matches types...
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pmurias how's the web app going? 20:16
ruoso it's being a neat project... 20:19
I'm implementing it using SOAP over XMPP with Catalyst
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ruoso pmurias, btw... the message got through... 20:24
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sehnlv OT for a brush up on c/c++ 20:42
what do you guys suggest i start with
mofino a gun 20:50
sehnlv heh 20:56
pmurias sehnlv: you mean a book? 21:03
Tene sehnlv: you could do some work on Parrot. ;) 21:09
sehnlv yeah 21:34
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