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Set by TimToady on 25 January 2008.
mib_1864dswq I am experimenting with getting .perl to work on the hashes now. What I want to do is call .perl() on each value in the hash. 00:22
mib_1864dswq When I try to do this with val.'perl'(), I am getting the error: Method 'perl' not found for invocant of class 'ResizablePMCArray' 00:23
mib_1864dswq How do I get access to the actual object in that value so that I can call the .perl method. I am currently testing a hash of hashes when I see this, but I expect I would see it for any complicated structure 00:24
pmurias creating smop data structures from C is hairy ;) 09:20
masak pmurias: why are you doing that? 09:36
pmurias playing around now, hoping to generate smop nodes from elf soon 09:40
do you now of better way to feed smop code?
* a better
masak not really 09:43
just curious about what you were doing
what's smop again? a meta-model? 09:44
pmurias masak: it's an object model + a runloop
www.perlfoundation.org/perl6/index.cgi?smop 09:45
lambdabot Title: SMOP / Perl 6
masak thx
pmurias the runloop sucks but it is designed to be replaceable but i like the object format 09:46
masak looks interesting 09:47
pmurias it is interesting how fast could smop possibly run(with a jit and other things), compared to parrot 09:52
as smop has a cleaner but less speed-oriented architecture
masak what version has smop reached? 09:57
pmurias 0.2.1 i guess 09:58
masak so, pre-roadmap versioning 10:02
pmurias the completed parts of the roadmap are in the changelog 10:03
masak ok
Juerd feather1 was out of memory. 12:18
moritz_ was it a leaking bot again? 12:19
Juerd I have no idea.
feather.perl6.nl/~juerd/feather1.pe...ry-day.png 12:21
moritz_: The problem is, there's not much you can do once the box hangs 12:22
moritz_: Feather isn't actively monitored by me. (And never will.)
moritz_ so we'd need logging on a per-process basis, which is probably not worth the trouble 12:23
Juerd Well, what we need most is people with tuits - of all kinds.
It's easy to monitor a machine for growing processes, but I'm not going to do it because intervening would mean more work for me. 12:24
Though in this case the number of processes also went up, by about a hundred.
moritz_ ah well, I guess that will happen from time to time 12:26
Juerd I estimate once per few months. 12:28
Maybe once a month on average
It tends to happen a few times in a row :D 12:29
moritz_ rakudo: class foo { method bar { 1; } }; say 1; 14:22
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[1␤]
moritz_ rakudo: class f { method bar { 1; } }; say 1;
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[1␤]
moritz_ rakudo: class a { method bar { 1; } }; say 1;
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[1␤]
moritz_ rakudo: class a { method bar { 1; } }; my a $a .= new(); say $a.bar 14:23
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[Scope not found for PAST::Var '$a'␤current instr.: 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;panic' pc 158 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:103)␤called from Sub 'parrot;PAST::Compiler;post_children' pc 1681 (src/PAST/Compiler.pir:364)␤called from Sub 'parrot;PAST::Compiler;call' pc 2779
..(src/PAST/Compiler.pir:783)␤called from Sub 'parrot;PAST::Compiler;post_chil...
pmurias @tell mncharity =~ is explicitly illegal perl6 18:10
lambdabot Consider it noted.
geezusfreeek hey guys. i was reading notes-on-haskell.blogspot.com/2008/...ages.html, which says "[Hindley-Milner type inference is] such a good idea, that it's slowly making its way into new programming languages like Perl 6 [...]" 18:49
lambdabot Title: Notes on Haskell: Static vs. Dynamic Languages, tinyurl.com/4ckvy4
geezusfreeek could anybody provide some insight into this for me? i can't seem to find anything relating hindley-milner inference to perl 6 anywhere
woah, lambdabot is here!
moritz_ Perl 6 has optionally typing 18:51
optionally *static* typing, that is
I haven't heard of type inference in Perl 6 so far
if something doesn't have a type declaration you won't get a compile time type error 18:52
at least that's not guaranteed
geezusfreeek hmm, okay
Eevee anyone running debian or ubuntu or other derivative, your keys are broken: isc.sans.org/diary.html
lambdabot Title: SANS Internet Storm Center; Cooperative Network Security Community - Internet Se ... 18:53
moritz_ Eevee: you're late ;)
Eevee: it made the news yesterday 18:54
Eevee moritz_: well thanks for telling *me* :P my desktop has sshd with public key auth, this is the sort of thing I would like to know about
moritz_ actually anybody who maintains an openssh server and used DSA should consider making new keys
Eevee: I told Juerd yesterday (and that I updated feather), and posted the link in #p5p and #perlde (both on irc.perl.org) 18:55
Eevee "luckily" my webserver is just password. but I should probably regen the certs I use for email
moritz_ so I didn't want to spam *all* channels that I'm in ;)
Eevee see I'm not in either of those! 18:56
oh wow 18:57
ubuntu's security update PROMPTS me to regen my keys for me
ubuntu++
moritz_ so does debians ;) 18:59
and installs a blacklist of insecure keys
Eevee yeah, patching server now and I see openssh-blacklist being installed
scary. possibly also a testament to OSS how fast this has been patched in a way that will fix everything for me 19:00
geezusfreeek @karma ubuntu
lambdabot ubuntu has a karma of 1
Eevee haha, it's a start
moritz_ @karma debian 19:01
lambdabot debian has a karma of -1
geezusfreeek lol
Eevee ha
moritz_ uuh
debian++ # fixing its stuff and eating its own dog food
Eevee alrighty, all patched and sshd not running on my machine for the moment 19:06
meppl good night 20:52
nelogd k 23:10
Eevee l 23:11

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