pugscode.org/ | nopaste: sial.org/pbot/perl6 | pugs: [~] <m oo se> (or rakudo:, kp6:, smop: etc.) || We do Haskell, too | > reverse . show $ foldl1 (*) [1..4] | irclog: irc.pugscode.org/
Set by TimToady on 25 January 2008.
pmichaud pugs: say +(1..5) 00:04
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[5␤]
pmichaud pugs: say +(10..20)
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[11␤]
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dolmen will have a look at this tomorrow 00:13
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pmichaud potential release name: picasaweb.google.com/patrick.michau...Xfw2HI43Lo 00:17
lambdabot Title: Picasa Web Albums - Pm - misc, tinyurl.com/6dkcqf
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pugs_svnbot r21047 | lwall++ | [STD] ws memo bug, can now get about 4000 bytes into STD.pm 00:27
r21047 | lwall++ | [Cursor5] show location in orig code more often
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pugs_svnbot r21048 | lwall++ | [STD] package name bugs, combined package_def with role_def 01:31
r21048 | lwall++ | [Cursor5] can now do pretty trace in color
TimToady STD5 now gets 4460 bytes into STD.pm before blowing up \o/
pmichaud yay! How long is STD.pm ? 01:41
Limbic_Region right, but it did it consume the first 4460 bytes correctly :-) 01:43
Auzon pmichaud: STD.pm is ~96000 chars including POD and comments 01:49
pmichaud so, ~ 5% :-) 01:50
Auzon But probably not 5% of the implementation. 01:51
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pugs_svnbot r21049 | Auzon++ | [vim syntax highlighting] fixed problems with my previous syntax highlighting change. qq{} doesn't work, not sure if I'm responsible for that or not. 02:31
rakudo_svn r28699 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: 02:44
r28699 | pmichaud++ | * Add workarounds for argument checking of 0-ary functions (RT#56366).
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pmichaud pugs: say (3..7).pick(10).elems 03:00
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[5␤]
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pugs_svnbot r21050 | Auzon++ | [gsoc_spectest] t/packages -> t/spec/S10-packages/*.t and t/spec/packages/*.pm. Modified a bunch of tests. 04:29
r21050 | Auzon++ | packages used for testing are stored in t/spec/packages to avoid a hyphen in the name since hyphens are not legal package/variable names (without quoting them explicitly each time).
Auzon files left in t/packages are out of date (or rely on unspecced features specific to Pugs)
I'll revisit smartlinks and add a handful of tests that I originally intended to add before I got sidetracked reorganizing. But reorganizing is helpful anyway. 04:31
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Auzon I'll be out tomorrow until late if at all. night all & 05:07
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alester Should "my Num $num = 14" work? 05:57
'cause it goes crashy crashy for me.
rakudo_svn r28703 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: 06:02
r28703 | pmichaud++ | * Add .pick methods and functions.
r28703 | pmichaud++ | * Add .elems methods and functions to Any.
r28703 | pmichaud++ | * Resolves RT#56266 and RT#49085.
r28704 | petdance++ | adding some type sanity 06:09
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rakudo_svn r28705 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: 06:36
r28705 | pmichaud++ | * spectest-progress.csv update
r28705 | pmichaud++ | * 73 files, 944 passing tests as of 2008-06-26 00:00
pugs_svnbot r21051 | pmichaud++ | S29-num/rand.t: Update #?rakudo skip message to link to RT#56274. 06:41
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r28707 | pmichaud++ | * Move .cis and .unpolar into Any.
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pugs_svnbot r21052 | pmichaud++ | S29-num/complex.t: update #?rakudo skip markers for new passing tests 07:15
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pmichaud pugs: say [1,2,3].join('-'); 07:29
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[1-2-3␤]
pmichaud pugs: say ([1,2,3], 7).join('-');
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[1 2 3-7␤]
pmichaud pugs: say join('-', [1,2,3]);
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[-␤]
pmichaud pugs: say join('-', 1, 2, 3); 07:30
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[-␤]
pmichaud pugs: my @a = 1, 2, 3; say join('-', @a);
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[-␤]
moritz_ not quite what expected ;)
Auzon: in r21049 (vim syntax hilighting) you reverted my changes to the type names. Was that on purpose? 07:34
rakudo: say [1,2,3].join('-') 07:36
p6eval rakudo 28687: OUTPUT[1-2-3␤]
moritz_ I'm pretty sure that's correct
rakudo: ([1,2,3], 4).join('-')
p6eval rakudo 28687: RESULT["1 2 3-4"]
moritz_ I think that's also correct
pmichaud pugs: say [1,3,7].values; 07:43
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[137␤]
pmichaud pugs: say ([1,3,7], 2).values;
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[1 3 72␤]
pmichaud pugs: say ([1,3,7], 2).values.elems; 07:44
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[2␤]
pmichaud pugs: say [1,3,7].values.elems; 07:45
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[3␤]
pmichaud rakudo: say [1,3,7].values.elems;
p6eval rakudo 28687: OUTPUT[3␤]
pmichaud rakudo: say [1,3,7].values.WHAT;
p6eval rakudo 28687: OUTPUT[Array␤]
pmichaud oh. 07:46
okay, I think I understand now.
although I'm still a little curious if [1,2,3].join('-') should be "1-2-3" or "1 2 3".
(since [1,2,3] is a Scalar) 07:47
wow, 2:44a here. Time for sleep.
moritz_ pmichaud: scalar containers dispatch method calls to their stored objects 07:50
pugs_svnbot r21053 | pmichaud++ | Update some skip messages in the test suite to include RT ticket numbers.
pmichaud moritz_++ # good point. 07:52
afk 07:53
moritz_ sleep well ;) 07:54
pugs_svnbot r21054 | lwall++ | [STD] bugs, bugs, bugs, bugs...now gets 11% through parsing itself 08:05
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pugs_svnbot r21055 | pmichaud++ | Oops! Be careful of $_ interpolation in "...". (pmichaud--) 12:25
r21056 | pmichaud++ | Clean up fudging in S29-num/int.t . 12:28
moritz_ pmichaud: do you ever sleep? ;-) 12:29
pmichaud sure! 12:40
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rakudo_svn r28711 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: 13:11
r28711 | pmichaud++ | * Small update to postfix:<i>, so that (1i)i comes up with the
r28711 | pmichaud++ | correct result.
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Auzon moritz_: probably not :) I'll look at it tonightish 13:20
moritz_ Auzon: maybe we should import type information from docs/p6types, rhr++ did assembly quite many there 13:22
pmichaud pugs: say (1i)i # just curious
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[0 + 0i␤]
pmichaud rakudo: say (1i)i; # updated, yet? 13:23
p6eval rakudo 28687: OUTPUT[0+1i␤]
pmichaud no. Actually, 28687 is pretty old.
moritz_ oh, maybe I should start cron in the new chroot... 13:27
gbacon which svnbot does rakudo_svn run? 13:31
moritz_ gbacon: a perl 5 based (not yet in any repo)
rakudo: say (1i)i; # updated, yet?
p6eval rakudo 28687: OUTPUT[0+1i␤]
moritz_ wrong chroot
oh, it was actually a locked svn repo causing troubles
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moritz_ rakudo: sub a(Num $x) { say $x); a(1) 13:54
p6eval rakudo 28714: OUTPUT[Missing '}' at line 1, near "); a(1)"␤current instr.: 'parrot;PGE::Util;die' pc 120 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:82)␤]
moritz_ rakudo: sub a(Num $x) { say $x}; a(1)
p6eval rakudo 28714: OUTPUT[Null PMC access in type()␤current instr.: 'a' pc 137 (EVAL_15:59)␤]
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pmichaud The "Null PMC access in type()" is probably worth an RT ticket. 14:13
rakudo: say (1i)i; # how about now?
p6eval rakudo 28714: OUTPUT[-1+0i␤]
pmichaud yay!
rakudo: say (50..60).pick 14:14
p6eval rakudo 28714: OUTPUT[56␤]
pmichaud rakudo: say (50..60).pick(5).join(' ') 14:15
p6eval rakudo 28714: OUTPUT[52 57 53 55 60␤]
pmichaud rakudo: say (50..60).pick(*).join(' ')
p6eval rakudo 28714: OUTPUT[52 54 53 50 59 58 60 55 56 57 51␤]
pmichaud rakudo: say 5.pick(5);
p6eval rakudo 28714: OUTPUT[5␤]
pmichaud rakudo: say 5.pick(5, :repl);
p6eval rakudo 28714: OUTPUT[55555␤]
[particle] do you need the comma? 14:19
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pmichaud currently, yes. 14:23
I'm pretty sure that's the case for all named arguments (i.e., requiring commas between them and other arguments) 14:25
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moritz_ rakudo: say 1 ~~ Int 14:37
p6eval rakudo 28714: OUTPUT[1␤]
moritz_ rakudo: say 1 ~~ Num
p6eval rakudo 28714: OUTPUT[0␤]
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pmurias pixie: say 23; 14:38
p6eval pixie: OUTPUT[Subroutine from redefined at ElfCore5.pm line 741.␤Subroutine to redefined at ElfCore5.pm line 742.␤cp: cannot stat `lex/Perl/expect_term': No such file or directory␤Use of uninitialized value in numeric eq (==) at ../../src/perl6/STD5.pm line 3241.␤Use of uninitialized value in ...
pmurias moritz: is it possible to expand the ...? 14:39
well, _moritz:
moritz_ pmurias: I can execute the same from the command line 14:40
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pmurias i think the pixie: works only the warnnings hide the output 14:40
moritz_ aye 14:41
pmurias: I think the best solution is to add a filter to pixie's output (before it is truncated)
pmurias makes sense 14:42
moritz_ or (even easier from my POV) a pixie wrapper script
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moritz_ that hides these warnings 14:42
(atm length filtering is done before per-impl filtering - a bit stupid :)
pmurias Maddingue: i'll fetch my laptop and code the wrapper 14:43
s/Maddingue/moritz_
cgi-irc nick completion sucks 14:44
[particle] why can't you fix or disable the warnings in pixie?
pmurias particle: the are genuine warnings, and most of them are emitted by things used by pixie 14:45
masak moritz_++ # for www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=657862
pmurias fetching laptop&
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moritz_ pixie: say 1; 14:49
p6eval pixie: OUTPUT[Subroutine from redefined at ElfCore5.pm line 741.␤Subroutine to redefined at ElfCore5.pm line 742.␤cp: cannot stat `lex/Perl/expect_term': No such file or directory␤1␤]
moritz_ difference is that I recompiled STD5.pm in the mean time 14:52
perl5.10.0 gimme5 STD.pm > STD5.pm # is that right?
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rakudo_svn r28715 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] Stub in Block, Ruotuine, Sub and Method PMCs and classes. Start using them for subs and methods (not for normal blocks yet - is a tad tickier). 15:07
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moritz_ can I have multis with constants in the signature? 15:07
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moritz_ ie. multi sub divides(Int $x, Int $divisor){...}; multi sub divides(Int $x, 2) { ... } 15:08
b_jonas moritz_: pattern matching of data? dunno 15:09
TreyHarris moritz_: good point in email, i missed that particular concatenation. I think TimToady will have to make a ruling here... 15:10
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moritz_ TreyHarris: I hope he does 15:12
TreyHarris: I think that atm Complex is intended to be completely outside the type structure of numeric types, which makes defining all those multis a real mess 15:13
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b_jonas moritz_: it's even intended that way? 15:18
that's a pity
I like first class complex numbers
both because of the semantics and because of the implementation 15:19
moritz_ b_jonas: not entirely sure if it's intentend. I seem to recall that, but I forgot where I got that idea from 15:20
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pugs_svnbot r21057 | rhr++ | [p6types] Adjust Num heirarchy, pending further clarification 15:44
r21057 | rhr++ | Note that most/all methods in Positional might really be in Any
r21057 | rhr++ | (although that would make Positional rather pointless)
moritz_ it wouldn't make Positional pointless, because it's what defines the @ sigial 15:46
for example it holds the postcircumfix:<[ ]> method
masak moritz_: I don't understand your question in the email thread "Type of literals"
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masak if Foo isa Int, why wouldn't 1 be an Int too? 15:47
moritz_ masak: yes, but 1.WHAT would say Foo, not Int
masak ah, yes
though isa_ok would do the right thing
then I understand your question
and I agree that the test is likely wrong
moritz_ ok, we seem to have consensus here 15:48
masak though I can't see how one could make the test fail without leaving 'standard' Perl 6
they are, after all, literals 15:49
moritz_ the question is what the "standard" says about the type of literals
which is what my question asks
masak why shouldn't 'standard' Perl 6 guarantee that 1.WHAT eq 'Int'? 15:50
moritz_ to allow optimizations
masak ah.
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moritz_ or perhaps a not-so-contrieved example might be Ranges 15:50
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masak how so? 15:50
moritz_ (1^..5) might be implemented by a different class than (1..5)
masak mm, ok 15:51
moritz_ or you could autmatically flatten short ranges into lists, if that happens to be more efficient
masak yes. 15:52
though that would require analysis about the surroundings
b_jonas yep
[particle] moritz: youd' have to do type punning if that's the case
otherwise it's just wrong
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masak because 3.5 ~~ 2..4 should not be flattened 15:53
[particle] 1..2 ~~ List # ouch
moritz_ I hope Perl 6 lives long enough to motivate people to write really clever compilers
b_jonas in ruby for example, 1 is a Fixnum, but you don't actually use Fixnum for anything, only its superclass Integer because integers are transparently upgraded to Bignums when they're large
masak moritz_: people already write really clever compilers
b_jonas Fixnums are just a more efficent representation for some Integers
moritz_ [particle]: ok, perhaps the Range to List autoconvertion was contrieved again ;) 15:54
b_jonas it's only an implementation thing
moritz_ masak: not optimization wise, not for perl 6 ;)
masak :)
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moritz_ "first make it run, then make it right, then make it fast" 15:55
masak though a product is sometimes quite worthless before step 2 15:56
and often of little interest before step 3
[particle] you forgot TimToady's job, "first make it lex"
b_jonas lol
moritz_ masak: yes, but for other developers it really helps to have something that runs ;)
[particle]: ;-)
masak moritz_: true 15:57
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b_jonas meh, if it's the kind of language where if it parses it almost always is correct, then you only need a syntax checker, not something that runs the programs 15:57
moritz_ I never encountered such a language 15:58
pmichaud moritz_: btw, if you can get me a latest copy of your spectest_regression.csv grapher (or check it into the repo), I can automatically generate graphs and have them hosted on my server. 16:00
moritz_ pmichaud: I'll check it in a few minutes
pmichaud or we could probably get them hosted on a feather* host
(my server has plenty of bandwidth, though.) 16:01
moritz_ doesn't care where it's hosted, but it looks nice on rakudo.de, so I'll keep a copy there ;)
my MANIFEST diff contains +languages/perl6/t/01-sanity/09-types.t [perl6] 16:04
should I commit that?
pmichaud yes. we have a couple of people who have been adding files to the repo but forgetting to update manifest 16:05
rakudo_svn r28717 | moritz++ | [perl6] added tools/progress-graph.pl. Also added missing test file to 16:06
r28717 | moritz++ | MANIFEST
r28719 | moritz++ | [perl6] codingstandards 16:11
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TimToady /e 16:19
not to mention \o 16:20
TimToady has to use o rather than o/ because his left shoulder is sore... :)
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pmurias moritz_: it would be best to implement the error filtering in the evalbot 16:31
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moritz_ pmurias: I trust your judgement there 16:33
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moritz_ pmurias: if you implement the filtering, I'll move the lenght filtering to happen after the per-implementation error filtering 16:33
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pmurias moritz_: i added some hacks to ignore warnings under --quiet 16:50
pugs_svnbot r21058 | pmurias++ | [pixie] the --quiet option dosn't print warnings
pmurias pixie: say 4;
p6eval pixie: OUTPUT[Subroutine from redefined at ElfCore5.pm line 741.␤Subroutine to redefined at ElfCore5.pm line 742.␤cp: cannot stat `lex/Perl/expect_term': No such file or directory␤4␤]
moritz_ pmurias: I svn up'ped now
pixie: say 4 16:51
pmurias pixie: say 4;
p6eval pixie: OUTPUT[4␤]
moritz_ W0OO00T
pmurias++
pmurias how does one get a pugs.blogs.com account? 16:53
moritz_ pmurias: first get a blogs.com account, then poke the right people(tm) 16:54
it could be that I'm one of those, I'm not entirely sure
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moritz_ seems I'm not one of those[tm]. 16:58
pugs_svnbot r21059 | pmurias++ | [STD_red] fixed => handling (preclim is respected)
moritz_ pmurias: maybe ask those who already posted there?
afk 17:00
pugs_svnbot r21060 | cjfields++ | more tests
cmarcelo audreyt: hello. are you deriving those separated packages for pugs from the svn? or there's sth extra? (/me just reading #haskell backlog)... 17:02
pmurias @seen mncharity 17:06
lambdabot I haven't seen mncharity.
pugs_svnbot r21061 | pmurias++ | [elf] add elfX a unstable/less-hacky elf branch
pmurias @seen moritz_
lambdabot moritz_ is in #perl6. I last heard moritz_ speak 6m 32s ago.
audreyt cmarcelo: no, I'll check them all into svn when I'm done with it... 17:07
cmarcelo: alternatively! you can check them all into svn and nuke src/{Pugs,Main}*, if you feel like it
and hack Makefile.PL to build third-party/Cabal and third-party/cabal-install
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audreyt and generally redo the build system 17:07
to be a shallow shim to cabal 17:08
(bbl)
cmarcelo nice.
but keeping Cabal and cabal-install copies of our own in the tree? 17:09
audreyt sure, if you're aiming for offline installation. 17:10
(bbl for real)
cmarcelo k 17:11
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pugs_svnbot r21062 | lwall++ | [Cursor5] BRACKET should restore outer language 19:03
r21062 | lwall++ | [STD] parse :my correctly
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Lorn_ p6eval: say foo 21:30
say 4
;
say 4;
moritz_ rakudo: say 4; 21:31
p6eval rakudo 28729: OUTPUT[4␤]
Lorn_ how i test perl6 things?
moritz_ Lorn_: you have to talk to a particular implementation
implementations are rakudo,pugs,elf,pixie,kp6,nqp,yap6 21:32
Lorn_ moritz_: :) if i has 2 arrays, $a = [0, 1, 2] , $b = [ 0, 1, 4, 5 ] i want to intersect( sorry for the bad english :P) and $intersect will be $intersect = [ 0, 1 ] 21:33
moritz_: how i did this with perl6? i remember that has something to help me with that..
moritz_ pugs: my @a = 1, 2, 3; my @b = 2, 3, 4; my @inter = grep { $_ ~~ @b } @a; say @inter.perl
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[*** ␤ Unexpected "@a"␤ expecting ",", ":" or operator␤ at /tmp/DNFIPN7fPU line 1, column 65␤]
moritz_ pugs: my @a = 1, 2, 3; my @b = 2, 3, 4; my @inter = grep { $_ ~~ @b }, @a; say @inter.perl 21:34
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[\()␤]
moritz_ not good ;)
Lorn_ :P
moritz_ best bet is to do it like in p5 and build a hash of one of those arrays
Lorn_ hey, 5.10 has smart match too ~~ 21:35
moritz_ pugs: my @a = 1, 2, 3; my @b = 2, 3, 4; my %b{@b} = 1 xx @b; my @inter = grep { %b{$_} }, @a; say @inter.perl
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[\(2, 3)␤]
Lorn_ i dont have 5.10 at work :/ only at home
moritz_ much better ;)
Lorn_ :) 21:36
moritz_: do you have 5.10?
i think that my @a = 1, 2, 3; my @b = 2, 3, 4; my @inter = grep { $_ ~~ @b }, @a; say @inter.perl will work in 5.10
moritz_ it should (with some more parenthesis) 21:37
perl5.10.0 -wle 'my @a = qw(a b c); my @b = qw(d c a); my @inter = grep { $_ ~~ @b } @a; print "@inter"'
a c
rakudo: say 3 ~~ (2, 3, 4) 21:38
Lorn_ moritz_: nice
p6eval rakudo 28729: OUTPUT[Method 'ACCEPTS' not found for invocant of class 'List'␤current instr.: 'infix:~~' pc 10492 (src/gen_builtins.pir:6878)␤]
Lorn_ installing 5.10 at $home :)
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pugs_svnbot r21063 | cjfields++ | fix test (should be a space, not underscore) 21:49
r21064 | moritz++ | [spec] moved no_implicit_block.t to spec/S04-statements/ 21:55
r21064 | moritz++ | (and s/_/-/g in the file name)
r21065 | moritz++ | [spec] fudged no-implict-block.t 22:02
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cggoebel anyone have experience formatting SD cards? 22:02
Can anyone tell me why I can fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 create a single linux partition... do a mkfs.ext2 on /dev/mmcblk0p1 (getting "Buffer I/O error" and "io page write" errors then mount /dev/mmcblk0 /mnt -t vfat and see and work with the files which were there from when it was originally formatted as vfat?
oops...
moritz_ cggoebel: wrong channel ;)
cggoebel wrong channel... apologies
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pugs_svnbot r21066 | moritz++ | [spec] unfudged two passing tests in anon_block.t, jonathan++ for making them 22:06
r21066 | moritz++ | pass
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rakudo_svn r28730 | moritz++ | [rakudo] one more test for spectest_regression 22:14
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pugs_svnbot r21067 | moritz++ | [spec] test for $_ being treated as formal parameter of a block 22:25
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Juerd cggoebel: The table needs to be reread. hdparm -z 22:28
fdisk does this on write. However, if it fails, you must reboot first. 22:29
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pugs_svnbot r21068 | moritz++ | [spec] moved two tests to a different file (which will 22:33
r21068 | moritz++ | follow in next commit. svn--)
r21069 | moritz++ | [spec] added tests for repeated declaration of a variable in same scope
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pugs_svnbot r21070 | moritz++ | [t] removed redundant test 22:39
r21071 | moritz++ | [t] rewrote test in terms of eval_lives_ok, and spell-checked description 22:42
rakudo_svn r28731 | moritz++ | [rakudo] one more test for spectest_regression 22:47
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