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Set by TimToady on 25 January 2008.
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meppl good night 00:19
mncharity g'night meppl 00:20
meppl ;)
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pugs_svn r21587 | putter++ | [rx_on_re] Moving AST emitter methods from p5 to p6. 00:46
mncharity the last few are going to be harder. 00:47
g'night all &
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pugs_svn r21588 | lwall++ | [STD] avoid infinite redispatch loop 01:25
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pugs_svn r21589 | lwall++ | [STD] let and temp are just lvalue prefixes, not declarators 01:45
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TimToady @tell pmurias you may work on macros if you like. there's an add_macro stub in Cursor.pmc already. it's called from deflongname currently, but we'll have to figure out how to attach traits like precedence 01:51
lambdabot Consider it noted.
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Auzon ok, moritz_, I sent the mail 03:01
lambdabot Auzon: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
Auzon @messages
lambdabot mncharity said 4h 10m 26s ago: re reading lines, a cautionary tale - I've squandered a scary amount of life attempting workarounds for pugsbugs. Man months. Given that rakudo is actively developed,
I suggest you try applying a very low threshold to asking "rakudo folks: I need to do X - can you find me a way to do it that works?", and shift to some unblocked aspect of test writing.
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Auzon @tell mncharity Thanks for your insight. I usually don't spend much time on working around bugs, but this one had the potential of a high payoff since it would add a ton of regex tests in one spot, making it easy to identify what is tested. 03:03
lambdabot Consider it noted.
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pugs_svn r21590 | Auzon++ | [gsoc_spectest] combining some S05 directories 03:50
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pugs_svn r21591 | lwall++ | [type-based.t] s/Rule/Regex/ 04:16
r21592 | Auzon++ | [gsoc_spectest] moved repeat.t into spec, added more tests (added 11 tests). 04:23
r21592 | Auzon++ | Added more items to TASKS for S05
Auzon Apparently I also reverted something I didn't think I committed. It works out :) 04:24
@tell moritz_ Should I remove the todo note on existing tests tagged with :todo<feature> or :todo<bug>? 04:27
lambdabot Consider it noted.
Auzon lambdabot++ 04:28
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pugs_svn r21593 | Auzon++ | [gsoc_spectest] litvar.t to spec and more tests. (added 2 tests) 04:38
Auzon sleep &
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moritz_ @tell Auzon re removing :todo<feature>, replace it with #?pugs todo "feature" 06:25
lambdabot Consider it noted.
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perl7 hi 07:37
moritz_ hi
lambdabot moritz_: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
moritz_ lambdabot: I know, that you ;-) 07:38
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pugs_svn r21594 | moritz++ | [spec] s/dies_ok/eval_dies_ok/ in S05-metasyntax/repeat.t 08:02
moritz_ @tell Auzon I think now it's worth to check the syntax of new test files with src/perl6/tryfile, it catches more syntax error than it misparses
lambdabot Consider it noted.
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pmurias TimToady: should just returning an $C->cursor_fresh("newGrammar") from add_macro enough to change the grammar? 09:19
lambdabot pmurias: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
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pmurias TimToady: should just returning an $C->cursor_fresh("newGrammar") from add_macro enough to change the grammar?/// 10:41
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ruoso good morning 12:08
moritz_ hi ruoso ;) 12:09
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pugs_svn r21595 | moritz++ | [spec] basic test for open() and iteration over the file handle 14:25
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pugs_svn r21596 | moritz++ | [spec] svn props for new test files 14:53
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pugs_svn r21597 | fglock++ | [v6.pm] updated TODO list from cpan-testers 15:17
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pugs_svn r21598 | fglock++ | [v6.pm] 0.029 15:23
Auzon nice idea about the syntax highlighter, moritz_++ :) 15:25
lambdabot Auzon: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
Auzon I wonder if it's possible to get Vim or Kate able to use an external highlighter somehow. 15:26
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Auzon @messages 15:26
lambdabot moritz_ said 9h 49s ago: re removing :todo<feature>, replace it with #?pugs todo "feature"
moritz_ said 7h 23m 35s ago: I think now it's worth to check the syntax of new test files with src/perl6/tryfile, it catches more syntax error than it misparses
moritz_ Auzon: I already use Vim as external syntax hilighter
Text::VimColor IIRc
Auzon I meant having Vim use a STD.pm-backed highlighter. 15:27
moritz_ oh that. Dunno
TimToady @@tell pmurias yes, that is how you switch to a different language; the "interesting" parts relate to derivation and optimization
Auzon: it would currently be quite slow...
still takes 2 minutes to parse STD.pm even with the cache loaded 15:28
Auzon Yeah, that's a bit long, but I imagine you haven't done any optimizations, and if you run it on Rakudo or something like that, it'd be fast enough 15:29
TimToady a robust, fast dfa engine will help a lot
moritz_ maybe you can steal the one from TCL?
TimToady so will optimizing out all the unnecessary lazy lists
has to be able to tell you which alternative matched 15:30
most dfa engines don't
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pmurias ruoso: hi 16:02
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ruoso pmurias, hi 18:07
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pmurias ruoso: what is the alternative to using gimme5 for sm0p? 18:31
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ruoso pmurias, what do you mean? 18:34
pmurias what other parsers engine run perl6 grammars 18:37
* parser engines 18:38
?
ruoso don't really know ;)
pmurias found a workaround :) 18:41
nested sm0p frames will be {...} instead of q:sm0p {...}
walk& 18:43
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pugs_svn r21599 | Auzon++ | [gsoc_spectest] added new angle-brackets.t file to test all <...> forms (2/3s completed). (added 25 tests) 20:03
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moritz_ Auzon++ # systematic tests 20:04
Auzon I would've completed the rest, but I need to write up my report and take a break. 20:12
moritz_ speaking of reporting... I'll be offline during the next two weeks, roughly 20:13
(vacations, YaY)
Auzon I'm almost thinking that it'd make more sense to divide up that 535 test file (or otherwise organize them) instead of moving it as-is 20:14
moritz_ why? to get a better idea for what's actually covered?
Auzon Yes, and some things require external code (like using variables or calling subroutines in it) 20:15
[particle]1 auzon: have you looked at parrot's pge tests? 20:16
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[particle] there are many tests for s05-related syntax 20:16
split into multiple files
Auzon [particle]: No, I have not. Would it make sense to put them into the Pugs repo? 20:17
moritz_ t/compilers/pge/perl6regex/ 20:18
Auzon This looks a lot like the t/regex/p6regex/regex_tests file in Pugs 20:19
but it's a whole lot longer, so presumably more comprehensive. Is it maintained? 20:20
moritz_ I'm quite sure, it's run as part of the ordinary parrot test suite
the question is more "is the syntax still identical to Perl 6?" 20:21
[particle] yes, it's maintained 20:22
if it's out of date (perhaps \d is) then it must be updated
Auzon Is it meant to be identical to S05 syntax?
[particle] yes, everything under perl6regex/ 20:23
moritz_ Auzon: yes, but PGE traditionally updates slower than S05 ;-)
[particle] these tests were created (mainly by me) long before it was possible to write in perl 6 20:24
Auzon If I see any changes, I should send patches to rakudobug, correct?
[particle] no, those are parrot tests, so parrotbug 20:25
Auzon OK, sounds good.
[particle] if you wish to use them for perl 6 (put them in the spectest suite) then they should be copied there
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[particle] for example, parrot has p5regex tests copied from perl 5.9.4
Auzon There are a lot of those in pugs/t as well. 20:27
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pmurias TimToady: how much slower would STD be withought autolexing? 20:39
Auzon Is it accurate to say that PGE is based on Perl 6 rules? 20:40
moritz_ I'd say it implements Perl 6 rules
but isn't 100% up-to-date 20:41
Auzon The way that the PGE tests are organized was something I had in mind when I mentioned splitting up the t/regex/p6regex/regex_tests file earlier. 20:42
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pugs_svn r21601 | fglock++ | [v6.pm] more operators 20:53
[particle] auzon: pge is parrot's grammar engine 20:54
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[particle] it has a perl 6 regex front end, and a perl 5 regex front end. 20:55
it could also someday have a bnf front end, but i never got the tuits
errands & 20:56
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pmurias @tell ruoso $interpreter.goto({$io.print("#1")}) should print #1? 21:06
lambdabot Consider it noted.
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