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Set by Tene on 29 July 2008.
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meppl good night 00:39
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pugs_svn r21876 | ruoso++ | [smop] more work being done on lexical scope. The test is still failing 01:17
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nothingmuch i think "polymorphic eval" is audreyt's fault... it sounds audreyesque 02:16
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gaal Eval takes many shapes. 05:43
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meppl good morning 09:59
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pmurias ruoso: hi 17:55
ruoso: are you blocking on any part of mold now? 17:56
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pmurias what is the printf format in C to print exactly n chars? 18:29
s1n rakudo: say 18446744073709551616/2 18:32
p6eval rakudo 29834: OUTPUT[9.22335e+18␤]
s1n pmurias: %5c (for 5 characters)? 18:33
rakudo: say 18446744073709551616/1
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p6eval rakudo 29834: OUTPUT[1.84467e+19␤] 18:33
s1n rakudo: 18446744073709551616/1
p6eval rakudo 29834: RESULT[1.84467e+19]
pmurias s1n: %s.* was what I was looking for 18:39
s1n pmurias: there's a number of ways really, if it's c++ you should really use setw or something similar 18:42
if it's c, then you can use truncated strings, or the count specifier with a string 18:43
pmurias it's smop so it's C, truncated strings means? 18:44
pugs_svn r21877 | s1n++ | [spec] failing regression test due to division inaccuracy
pmurias i'm using a length field in our string object 18:46
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s1n what are you doing with the length field? got an example? 18:48
pmurias sure, printf("%s.*",len,str); 18:50
walk& 18:51
s1n pmurias: yeah, that's more or less the runtime version of the length specifier (like how i showed the example with the 5 in it) 18:52
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s1n err well, it could be compile time (i don't want to be misleading), but you get the idea, your use is perfectly valid 18:53
pmurias s1n: len and str are variables not just placeholders 18:55
it could be "%*c" as well
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s1n Auzon: did you finish the gsoc work? 19:00
Auzon I have one more week of it.
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Auzon So my project will be finished then (even though the test suite work will continue, and I'm likely to be around to lend an hour here and there) 19:01
pmurias walk&
s1n Auzon: well it's good to see the test suite moving forward, thanks for the work :) 19:05
Auzon It's been fun, and a great learning experience too. 19:07
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s1n anyone have a link to the web-based spec (the one hosted on feather with the collapsable spec tests)? 19:10
Auzon perlcabal.org/syn/ <-- that? 19:11
lambdabot Title: Official Perl 6 Documentation
s1n Auzon: yeah, the cabal, thanks
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s1n bah, nothing on either readline or eof 19:13
Auzon t/spec/S16-filehandles/io.t mentions readline 19:19
t/spec/S16-io/basic-open.t mentions eof
s1n yeah, it doesn't say what the return is when an eof is reached and whether a final readline is needed to detect the eof or it sets the eof after the last valid read 19:20
right now, it looks like a final readline with undef returned is needed to detect it 19:21
err well, it looks like it doesn't actually return undef 19:22
Auzon Yeah, .eof looks underspecced 19:24
s1n hmmm
Auzon I imagine it should return Bool::True after the final line so you can use it as: until $fh.eof {.say} 19:25
hm, well, imagine that I put a $fh.readline in there too.
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s1n is there a good way to get a better print of a scalar (like how the evalbot does)? 19:26
Auzon Try .perl 19:28
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s1n do you see where the =$filehandle operator is? 19:32
nm, s03 19:33
Auzon =$foo is generic iteration so you can use it on Ranges and such 19:36
s1n yeah i read that
Auzon You can also .shift and .pop iterators, which looks like a lot of fun on filehandles. 19:37
s1n it looks like =$foo on filehandles isn't working
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s1n it looks like '@foo = =$bar' is returning the IOIterator, according to the spec, it doesn't look like it works 19:39
Auzon Jonathan++ worked on this recently, so let me dig up his notes on it 19:40
Ah, right, it's broken until Rakudo has lazy lists 19:41
s1n ahh 19:42
got a link to his notes?
pmurias ruoso: what do you think i should have in the SMOP talk, a glimps of the metamodel,the smop RI stuff, m0ld?
Auzon www.rakudo.org/2008/08/fixing-bugs-...t-whe.html
lambdabot Title: Fixing bugs, and looking at where we're at - Rakudo.org
s1n Auzon: okay, that clears up that mess, thanks, i hadn't read his blog in a little while (maybe i should catch up) 19:44
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Auzon Yeah, I subscribe to several P6 feeds to keep on top of things. Attending Parrotsketch is also informative, though it also has non-Rakudo stuff. 19:44
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s1n i do too but i have been falling behind lately 19:45
lots of non-technical things going on around here
pugs_svn r21878 | pmurias++ | [smop] fixed typo in lexicalscope, better printing of constant identifiers 19:47
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pugs_svn r21879 | s1n++ | [spec] skip the prefix:= tests until lazy-lists are implemented 20:02
ruoso pmurias, although the metamodel is the most important aspect of smop, I think the roadmap on how to take a pragmatic approach to p6 will probably be more important... 20:09
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pugs_svn r21880 | ruoso++ | [smop] lexical scope test pass, but lots of leaks happens... 20:15
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pmurias ruoso: should i put the first sketch of the talk on the wiki? 20:42
i hesitate a bit to go into the roadmap, as the things with have done are dwarfed by the things to yet remaining 20:44
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pmurias s/to// 20:56
s1n it looks like S28 is still in draft, is that correct? 21:04
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s1n if so, do we mark the S02-magicals as rakudo skip? 21:05
(i guess i was soliciting moritz_ and pmichaud on that last question)
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pmurias ruoso: the leaks are caused by a circular refenernce with ¢continuation, not realeasing mold and something else 21:12
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