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azawawi good morning 01:27
ZuLuuuuuu good morning 01:32
azawawi where are you from?
azawawi jordan
u?
ZuLuuuuuu here it is 3:30 am
turkey
azawawi 3:33am 01:33
ZuLuuuuuu jordan? it is in usa?
azawawi south of you ;-)
ZuLuuuuuu cant be?
is it a country :D
oh 01:34
ok
it is "􏿽xFCrd􏿽xFCn" in turkish very different
thats why I couldn't recognise
azawawi maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&...81&z=5 01:35
lambdabot Title: Google Maps, tinyurl.com/55725j
azawawi i know ;-)
ZuLuuuuuu i am gonna sleep good night :) 01:39
azawawi i just woke up... ;-) 01:40
ZuLuuuuuu :D
azawawi good night
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wayland76 (Australia here :) ) 01:43
azawawi hi wayland76
wayland76 hi
azawawi im trying to figure out why this feather.perl6.nl/~azawawi/STD.html is not working properly 01:44
lambdabot Title: STD.pm
wayland76 I would imagine the answer is beyond me, but I'm having a look at it :) 01:46
My browser seems to be choking on it, though :)
azawawi firefox 3?
wayland76 Seamonkey, whichever one came with Fedora 6 01:47
azawawi it should be... 20 MB worth of info in that html
and i havent compressed the tree info yet
wayland76 The new Fedora comes out later this month, and I'll get that
Ok :)
azawawi chrome does not have a problem with it btw...
wayland76 Anyway, if my browser ever recovers, I'll have a look at it :) 01:48
Well, my machine only has 1G memory, too
:)
And a Celeron 266 01:49
azawawi btw, it is the browser that cant handle it not the machine ;-)
wayland76 Seamonkey is currently using about 85% cpu :) 01:50
Yeah, doesn't surprise me :)
Guess I can't help if I can't look at it. Maybe after Fedora 10 comes out, and I've had time to download and upgrade... :) 01:51
Ooh, Parrot release tomorrow 01:53
azawawi what's the link?
wayland76 (although it may be the day after in my time)
between what we just said, or a link that talks about the Parrot release? 01:54
:)
azawawi parrot release link
wayland76 Dunno, but I put it on my calendar, so I must've seen it somewhere :)
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wayland76 (btw, I should've said "18 November"; it's currently the 17th here) 01:56
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azawawi 17th here 01:56
slavik is subst (regex, string) complete?
it doesn't seem to work in rakudo 01:57
rakudo: $x = yay; $x .= subst (/a/, ""); say $x;
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[Scope not found for PAST::Var '$x'␤current instr.: 'parrot;PCT;HLLCompiler;panic' pc 152 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:104)␤]
slavik rakudo: my $x = yay; $x .= subst (/a/, ""); say $x;
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[Could not find non-existent sub yay␤current instr.: '_block11' pc 26 (EVAL_11:16)␤]
slavik rakudo: my $x = "yay"; $x .= subst (/a/, ""); say $x; 01:58
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[No applicable methods.␤␤current instr.: '_block11' pc 78 (EVAL_11:27)␤]
wayland76 azawawi: Yeah, I figured, that's why I specified. You'll probably get the release on the 18th, but I'll have to wait until the 19th :)
slavik rakudo: my $x = "yay"; $x = $x.subst(/a/, ""); say $x;
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[yy␤]
slavik hmm
azawawi slavik: AnyStr.subst 01:59
slavik yeah, I got it, ty
wayland76 rakudo: my $x = "yay"; $x.subst(/a/, ""); say $x;
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[yay␤]
slavik azawawi: I am working on a URL grammar thing
azawawi wayland76: cool thx
slavik so trying to put in as much stuff as I can for demo purposes 02:00
the operators to force context are really nice
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azawawi slavik: demo? 02:02
slavik demonstration 02:03
having trouble with split though
rakudo: say split /-/, "hello-bah";
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near "/-/, \"hell"␤␤current instr.: 'parrot;PGE;Util;die' pc 129 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:83)␤]
azawawi rakudo: my $a="a b c"; $a.split(/ /); say $a; 02:04
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[perl6regex parse error: Null pattern illegal at offset 25, found ' '␤current instr.: 'parrot;PGE;Perl6Regex;parse_error' pc 9717 (compilers/pge/PGE/Perl6Regex.pir:1142)␤]
slavik rakudo: my $a, my $b = split /-/, "hello-bah"; say $a, $b;
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near "/-/, \"hell"␤␤current instr.: 'parrot;PGE;Util;die' pc 129 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:83)␤]
slavik rakudo: my $a, my $b = split /\-/, "hello-bah"; say $a, $b;
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[␤]
slavik rakudo: my $a, my $b = split /\-/ "hello-bah"; say $a, $b;
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near "\"hello-bah"␤␤current instr.: 'parrot;PGE;Util;die' pc 129 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:83)␤]
wayland76 azawawi: to rephrase what I think he means by "demo", is that he wants to make as many examples as possible
slavik yes
rakudo: my $a, my $b = split /w/ "hellowbah"; say $a, $b;
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near "\"hellowbah"␤␤current instr.: 'parrot;PGE;Util;die' pc 129 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:83)␤]
slavik hmm, what am I doing wrong there?
rakudo: my $a, my $b = split /w/, "hellowbah"; say $a, $b; 02:05
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[␤]
slavik why isn't that working?
wayland76 rakudo: my $a, my $b = split(/w/, "hellowbah"); say $a, $b;
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[␤]
slavik rakudo: (my $a, my $b) = split /w/, "hellowbah"; say $a, $b;
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[Method 'lvalue' not found for invocant of class 'PAST;Stmts'␤current instr.: 'parrot;PAST;Compiler;as_post' pc 2924 (src/PAST/Compiler.pir:742)␤]
azawawi slavik: lvalues do not work yet in rakudo
wayland76 rakudo: my $a; my $b; ($a, $b) = split(/w/, "hellowbah"); say $a, $b;
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[Method 'lvalue' not found for invocant of class 'PAST;Stmts'␤current instr.: 'parrot;PAST;Compiler;as_post' pc 2924 (src/PAST/Compiler.pir:742)␤]
azawawi rakudo: my ($a, $b);
p6eval rakudo 32742: RESULT[Method 'perl' not found for invocant of class 'Signature'␤current instr.: '_block11' pc 37 (EVAL_15:15)␤] 02:06
slavik rakudo: my ($a, $b) = split /w/, "hellowbah"; say $a, $b;
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[Method 'lvalue' not found for invocant of class 'PAST;Stmts'␤current instr.: 'parrot;PAST;Compiler;as_post' pc 2924 (src/PAST/Compiler.pir:742)␤]
azawawi rakudo: my $a, $b; # this should work
slavik hmm, is there a not using strict?
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[Scope not found for PAST::Var '$b'␤current instr.: 'parrot;PCT;HLLCompiler;panic' pc 152 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:104)␤]
azawawi rakudo: my $a; my $b; # this should work
p6eval rakudo 32742: RESULT[undef]
azawawi slavik: my ($a, $b) -> my $a; my $b; # to make it work 02:07
slavik rakudo: my $a; my $b; ($a, $b) = split /w/, "hellowbah"; say $a, $b;
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[Method 'lvalue' not found for invocant of class 'PAST;Stmts'␤current instr.: 'parrot;PAST;Compiler;as_post' pc 2924 (src/PAST/Compiler.pir:742)␤]
slavik I basically want that ... looks like @list = split works though 02:08
will use that for now ...
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azawawi slavik: btw, you can '/msg p6eval' privately to test things 02:10
slavik azawawi: well I want you to see what I was doing :)
besides, I have rakudo installed
and pugs 02:11
pugs from cabal and rakudo from svn
although I am 100+ revs behind
azawawi evalbot control version
p6eval This is evalbot revision 23014
slavik rakudo:
rakudo: ;
p6eval rakudo 32742: RESULT[Null PMC access in find_method()␤current instr.: '_block11' pc 37 (EVAL_12:15)␤]
slavik there
mine is 326xx 02:12
will update it shortly
rakudo: say "blah" * 2; 02:16
p6eval rakudo 32742: OUTPUT[0␤]
slavik aww
would be neat that if a string was an operand of an arithmetic operator, it would return the identity for that operation 02:17
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meppl good night 02:29
slavik night 02:30
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azawawi @tell TimToady should i be removing nodes like routine_declarator__S_114method from redspans trees? 02:34
lambdabot Consider it noted.
slavik ok ... I need some help with a point block 02:36
to make it more terse and unreadable
I have @pairs where each element is in the form of \w+=\w+
I would like to do something like the following: for map {split /\=/, $_ } @pairs -> $key, $value { say $key, $value; } 02:37
azawawi slavik: im not really familiar with that... maybe with moritz_ comes... 02:39
slavik k
basically I want to do a for BLOCK -> var, var
or some sort
azawawi hmmm have tried looking at 99problems (feather.perl6.nl/~azawawi/html/exam...problems/) 02:40
lambdabot Title: Index of /~azawawi/html/examples/99problems
azawawi s/have/have you/ 02:41
slavik hmm, no
what is that?
azawawi www.ic.unicamp.br/~meidanis/courses...blems.html
lambdabot Title: L-99: Ninety-Nine Lisp Problems, tinyurl.com/tt9e7
slavik err, they aren't perl6 ... :P 02:42
azawawi the first link are re-written in perl6
slavik oh
azawawi s/are/is
slavik meh
azawawi im still sleepy ;-)
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azawawi @tell TimToady i stopped using is_routine, is_type, how about using @baseroutinenames and @basetypenames directly? 02:45
lambdabot Consider it noted.
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pugs_svn r23029 | azawawi++ | [STD_syntax_highlight] quote -> dark magenta 02:47
r23029 | azawawi++ | [STD_syntax_highlight] package_declarator -> dark red
r23030 | azawawi++ | [STD_syntax_highlight] stop using is_routine and is_type 02:48
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pugs_svn r23031 | azawawi++ | [STD_syntax_highlight] package_declaractor->bold red (for --ansi-text) 02:52
azawawi @tell TimToady after looking at param_var, i noticed that we have 2 trees for buffer '$STOP' in 'method TOP ($STOP = undef) {' 02:53
lambdabot Consider it noted.
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s1n pmichaud: ping 03:05
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azawawi @tell moritz_ what's the best way in your opinion to compress <span id="tree_\d+"> in --full-html=- STD_syntax_highlight output? 05:07
lambdabot Consider it noted.
azawawi work &
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xinming 34 05:33
wrong window, sorry.
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lichtkind is there anywhere material about elf? 11:56
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moritz_ re 14:38
lambdabot moritz_: You have 5 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
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ruoso Hello! 15:51
[particle]1 hola
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TimToady @tell azawawi no, @baseroutinenames and @basetypenames are going away as soon as we implement a prelude to define them instead. if the info you need isn't in the tree, it should be put there. 16:18
lambdabot Consider it noted.
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rakudo_svn r32768 | infinoid++ | [rakudo] gen_junction_pir.pl can use strict and warnings. 16:20
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rakudo_svn r32770 | japhb++ | [Rakudo] Add languages/perl6/tools/rebase-rakudo.pl 16:50
r32770 | japhb++ |
r32770 | japhb++ | * Add rebase-rakudo.pl, a tool to make rebase/rebuild/test
r32770 | japhb++ | of Parrot/Rakudo more "fire and forget".
r32772 | japhb++ | [Rakudo] Set svn props on rebase-rakudo.pl
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masak ok, given that we don't have list slices in Perl 6 yet, what's the easies way to take a list slice? 16:52
rakudo: my @a = 0, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50; say @a[1,3,5]
p6eval rakudo 32769: OUTPUT[30␤]
masak (Rakudo currently treats the index as a scalar)
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masak rakudo: sub slice(@a, @i) { my @res; for @i.values -> $ix { @res.push(@a[$ix]) }; return @res }; my @a = 0, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50; say slice(@a, [1, 3, 5]) 16:55
p6eval rakudo 32769: OUTPUT[103050␤]
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masak workarounds++ 16:58
TimToady we've got list slices in Perl 6, but not in perl6 16:59
rakudo_svn r32774 | infinoid++ | [rakudo] Add copyright line and $Id$ to rebase-rakudo.pl. 17:00
TimToady pugs: my @a = 0, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50; say @a[1,3,5]
p6eval pugs: No output (you need to produce output to STDOUT)
TimToady hmm
masak Pugs has been doing that for a few days,
at least here on #perl6
TimToady well, works here orz
masak we've got list slices in Perl 6, but not on #perl6 :P
TimToady perl6: my @a = 0, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50; say @a[1,3,5] 17:01
p6eval pugs: No output (you need to produce output to STDOUT)
..elf 23014: OUTPUT[Useless use of a constant in void context at (eval 117) line 4.␤50␤]
..rakudo 32769: OUTPUT[30␤]
TimToady std: my @a = 0, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50; say @a[1,3,5]
p6eval std 23014: OUTPUT[Use of uninitialized value $file in open at Cursor.pm line 151.␤Use of uninitialized value $file in concatenation (.) or string at Cursor.pm line 151.␤parse failure␤]
TimToady heh
masak STD has been doing that for a few days, too. 17:02
TimToady bot rot
masak rakudo: say "bit rot".subst(/i/, <o>) 17:05
p6eval rakudo 32769: OUTPUT[bot rot␤]
masak <o> 17:06
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masak rakudo: my $l; for 1..2 -> $t { $l = $l // $t; say $l; $l = $t } # found a bug 17:24
p6eval rakudo 32775: OUTPUT[1␤1␤]
masak wait, nvm.
that's correct :/
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masak @tell pmichaud The strange thing about nopaste.snit.ch/14615 is that $last_linetype doesn't keep its value between the two iterations in the for loop. 17:35
lambdabot Consider it noted.
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masak . 20:46
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pugs_svn r23032 | moritz++ | [t/spec] test for RT #60528 21:11
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rakudo_svn r32781 | moritz++ | [rakudo] '!FAIL'() when Str.substr index is out of bound, instead of throwing 21:20
r32781 | moritz++ | an exception. Patch courtesy by Vasily Chekalkin, bacek++
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spx2 could this be true ? 21:47
www.catonmat.net/blog/wp-content/up...-dirty.jpg
masak spx2: it's at least not as punny as TimToady usually is 21:52
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spx2 will perl6 have threads or will it be the same scary improvisation that perl5 is ? 22:08
pmichaud spx2: I think the current design is that there's an explicit 'hyper' keyword that says you want the following operation(s) to be performed in parallel. 22:11
lambdabot pmichaud: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
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spx2 I gotta tell ya , some crazy shit going on in those synopsis ... 22:21
spx2 covers eyes
masak spx2: anything special you want to ask about them? 22:22
spx2 masak: yes,if the language will be learnable by human beeings 22:25
masak spx2: I'm programming in it right now.
it's not a problem.
(as far as I know, I'm a human being.) 22:26
wknight8111 ...or a very clever bot 22:29
masak what's the difference? 22:33
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literal spx2: the format of the synopses aren't ideal for learning, but they are ideal for language implementors... 22:40
spx2 literal: oh yes, that escaped me 22:41
masak it's like very concentrated juice. 22:42
literal the apocalypses and exegeses are more fun to read
they cover they "why is it like this?" and the "how can I make use of it?" parts 22:43
PerlJam Although both are a bit dated
literal yeah
PerlJam The Exegesis on Rules in particular could use an update. 22:44
ZuLuuuuuu I don't know the discussion but you can also get the "Perl 6 and Parrot Essentials" book which is a more polished look into the language 22:46
PerlJam Yeah, that book is a good parrot reference and a broad intro to perl 6. 22:48
(also a bit dated :)
literal it's available free online somewhere 22:50
parrot/pugs svn or somewhere, don't remember
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ruoso Hello! 23:12
masak y0 23:13
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wayland76 rakudo: say "yo-yo".subst(/o/, 0) 23:34
p6eval rakudo 32783: OUTPUT[y0-yo␤]
wayland76 So how do we do a global subst?
masak wayland76: know about .trans ? 23:35
rakudo: say "yo-yo".trans( [ "o" => "0" ] ) 23:36
p6eval rakudo 32783: OUTPUT[y0-y0␤]
masak moritz_++ taught me that. 23:37
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literal rakudo: say "bla.trans(a => 'o') 23:41
p6eval rakudo 32783: OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near "\"bla.trans"␤␤current instr.: 'parrot;PGE;Util;die' pc 129 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:83)␤]
literal rakudo: say "bla.trans([a => 'o'])
p6eval rakudo 32783: OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near "\"bla.trans"␤␤current instr.: 'parrot;PGE;Util;die' pc 129 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:83)␤]
literal rakudo: say "bla.trans('a' => 'o')
p6eval rakudo 32783: OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near "\"bla.trans"␤␤current instr.: 'parrot;PGE;Util;die' pc 129 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:83)␤]
literal rakudo: say "bla.trans(['a' => 'o']) 23:42
p6eval rakudo 32783: OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near "\"bla.trans"␤␤current instr.: 'parrot;PGE;Util;die' pc 129 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:83)␤]
literal I fail
rakudo: say "bla".trans(a => 'o')
p6eval rakudo 32783: OUTPUT[bla␤]
literal rakudo: say "bla".trans('a' => 'o')
p6eval rakudo 32783: OUTPUT[blo␤]
literal no autoquoting?
TimToady rakudo: say "yo-yo".subst(/o/, 0, :global) 23:45
p6eval rakudo 32783: OUTPUT[y0-yo␤]
TimToady rakudo: say "yo-yo".subst(/o/, 0, :g)
p6eval rakudo 32783: OUTPUT[y0-yo␤]
TimToady oh well
pmichaud we don't do :g yet :-( 23:46
although I think there's a patch in the queue for it.
If so I'll see about applying it. If not I have plenty of people who could write it.
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