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xp_prg is anyone aware of a tool that can pull a web page off a server in such a way that it will work locally correcting all relative things etc... 01:03
PerlJam xp_prg: wget? 01:08
sjohnson xp_prg: firefox is the only way i know how to do it 01:19
i dont know if will download all the img pics, etc
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PerlJam sjohnson: wget will do it. 01:23
now you know of two ways
sjohnson sweet 01:24
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carlin Eugh. Changing recv is going to be messier than I thought ... 05:32
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carlin will have to think about it more after $work 05:56
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sjohnson hello all 07:44
spinclad good globaltime(), sjohnson 07:46
sjohnson it is time i learn the Perl 6 ways
hows it going simcop2387
oops.. spinclad
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spinclad it goes well here, sjohnson 07:48
though others might wonder how i can call this 'well', i suppose 07:49
it's good to see Perl 6 strengthening and starting to blossom 07:50
i have some experiments with environment structure i want to finally do, more than just witnessing the joy 07:52
it is time, in spite of my scattered attention. 07:53
i'll make a first writeup in the next days 07:55
the dao of Perl 6 is indeed strong 07:58
and how goes it with you, sjohnson 07:59
sjohnson just thinking about perl 08:01
... perl 6 is a big deal 08:02
:)
spinclad aye
colomon indeed. 08:06
rakudo: say i; 08:08
p6eval rakudo 49e62f: OUTPUT«Could not find non-existent sub i␤in Main (file src/gen_setting.pm, line 295)␤»
colomon rakudo: say pi;
p6eval rakudo 49e62f: OUTPUT«3.14159265358979␤»
spinclad i needs adding 08:09
colomon Just noticing that from the Oct 07 design minutes. 08:10
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colomon ..and looking at how hard it would be to implement. 08:11
as long as the hotel fire alarm has me up.... 08:12
colomon thinks they have finally stopped announcing that everything is okay, but is now pretty awake.
rakudo: constant i = 1i; say i; 08:13
p6eval rakudo 49e62f: OUTPUT«0 + 1i␤»
colomon oooo, that seems promising.
... but does not work in the setting. Bah,. 08:18
I have a feeling this is one of those things pmichaud can do in his sleep.
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colomon I don't see any sign that there is a test for i yet. But I think I'm ready to try going back to sleep... 08:22
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Su-Shee good morning. :) 08:45
sjohnson hi
moritz_ good morning all
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lichtkind jnthn: what you ment by series operator ? 10:12
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moritz_ search for series in S03 :-) 10:44
rakudo: .say for 1, 3 ... *+2, 9 10:45
p6eval rakudo 49e62f: OUTPUT«1␤3␤5␤7␤9␤»
markmont rakudo: try { fail("oh noes"); CATCH { say "caught"; } } 10:47
p6eval rakudo 49e62f: OUTPUT«caught␤» 10:48
markmont perl6: try { chdir("/no/such/directory"); CATCH { say "caught"; } }
p6eval pugs, rakudo 49e62f: ( no output )
..elf 28890: OUTPUT«Unknown rule: statement_control:CATCH␤It needs to be added to ast_handlers.␤ at ./elf_h line 2850␤»
markmont rakudo: try { chdir("/no/such/directory"); CATCH { say "caught"; } }
p6eval rakudo 49e62f: ( no output )
markmont ...even though chdir() ends with .tailcall '!FAIL'('Unable to change to directory "', newdir, '"') 10:49
Bad understanding on my part? Unimplemented feature?
moritz_ seems like a rakudo bug 10:52
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moritz_ markmont: could you please report it by sending a mail to rakudobug@perl.org? 10:53
markmont Will do, thanks.
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moritz_ thank you for reporting 10:55
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lichtkind moritz_: thanks 12:07
moritz_: must be knew 12:08
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moritz_ somewhat, yes 12:15
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dalek ok: 8d93fcb | moritz++ | src/regexes.pod:
[RX] two typos noted by (Adrian White)++

  (for which I opened <rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=50794>, and
the � and � are lost, because TeX doesn't know the file is encoded as UTF-8.		 12:25
clkao win 27 12:29
avar dalek: you can define some macros to make tex grok utf8 12:32
moritz_ avar: I tried a \\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}, but it produced a lot of unrelated build errors that I didn't understand 12:34
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pugs_svn r28891 | colomon++ | [t/spec] Add tests for i as 1i. 13:00
arnsholt moritz_: You could use the \\og and \\fg commands instead of literal UTF-8 guillemets? 13:12
Although that might require some fiddling with babel to get the commands loaded 13:13
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colomon Seems like some hacking on Pod::PseudoPod::LaTeX may be needed? 13:16
arnsholt moritz_: If you use T1 fonts it turns out you can just write << and >> to get the guillemets 13:25
Just like Perl 6 =)
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jsut is .isa() known to have problems with colons in class names? 13:32
lisppaste3 jsut pasted ".isa has problems with colons?" at paste.lisp.org/display/89206 13:35
moritz_ arnsholt: I don't think I can use use that in POD 13:37
jsut: looks like a bug, yes
jsut should / can i turn that into a failing test for you guys? 13:38
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moritz_ jsut: yes, please. And a ticket to rakudobug@perl.org 13:38
jsut: if you want something that works, you can use the type name without the quotes 13:39
jsut i suppose i could look at the docs on rakudo.org to see how to send in the patch
really. 13:40
interesting ;)
i didn't try that obviously
the next rt ticket number is 70000 13:59
moritz_ and masak is not online ;-) 14:00
jsut does p6 have a use lib () yet? 14:02
moritz_ no, and it's not clear if it ever will
because modules need to be organized differently from Perl 5 14:03
jsut right now to run my little tests i'm setting PERL6LIB in env, which i guess is what you need to do.
moritz_ for one to allow multiple versions of the same module
the other reason is that the file system can't always represent every possible module name
jsut not having a concept like that seems like it'd make it harder for people to ship their own code.
moritz_ that intermediate plan is to install the modules to ~/.perl6/lib/ 14:04
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jsut the "file systems not being able to represent every possible class name" bit could obviously be a big wrench in things 14:06
at least if you're thinking about it from the p5 world. i guess that happens in p5 anyway though since you can use UTF8 in package names
moritz_ another point is case sensitivty 14:07
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jsut yeah 14:07
thanks for you help, i sent the bug and just attached the patch with new tests 14:08
is that any better / worse than forking on github and sending pull requests?
moritz_ jsut: please send patches (from git-format-patch) to the bug tracker 14:11
jsut: and the tests go into the pugs testsuite, I can give you commit access for that 14:12
jsut: just tell me your desired nickname and your email address (by private message if you fear spam)
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moritz_ t/spec/S29-any/isa.t would be a good location 14:16
the tests that are shipped with rakudo are just very basic sanity tests for thing we need in Test.pm
jsut ok
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moritz_ jsut: welcome, you should have an invitation in your inbox now or very soon 14:18
jsut: it's a custom to add yourself to AUTHORS in the first commit 14:19
jsut okey
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pmurias moritz_: can't linux use utf8 file names? 14:32
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moritz_ pmurias: it can 14:42
traditionally linux hasn't been the most troublesome platform for developers ;-) 14:43
but for example there might still be length limits
pugs_svn r28892 | jsut++ | Tests for RT #69999, .isa on classes with colons in their names 14:53
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dalek ok: 077ab7c | moritz++ | src/regexes.pod:
[RX] more look-ahead, look-behind
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dalek ok: 0116ca3 | moritz++ | src/grammars.pod:
[grammars] explain grammar inheritance
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TimToady /names 20:26
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pugs_svn r28893 | kyle++ | [t/spec] label and fudge new tests from jsut++ 23:55

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