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Tene takadonet1: you tried to use a placeholder in a sub with a signature. 00:03
rakudo: sub foo($n) { say $^a }; foo(5);
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Placeholder variable cannot override existing signature at line 22, near "; foo(5);"␤»
Tene see?
takadonet1 ... some wha
what*
Tene takadonet1: placeholders are an *alternative* to using a signature. 00:04
takadonet1 well i need a signature in this case 00:06
well i think so
Tene Then put the placeholder you're trying to use in the signature instead.
Perhaps we could see the code?
takadonet1 Currently it's over two module and about to leave ..... 00:07
trying to golf it down as we speak
Tene takadonet1: quick explanation of placeholders: the following two functions are equivalent: sub foo($a, $b) { say $a + $b }; sub bar { say $^a + $^b }; 00:08
also: sub foo(:$a, :$b) { $a+$b }; sub bar { $:a + $:b }
takadonet1 ic 00:09
Tene so instead of listing a formal signature, you annotate at least the first usage of that variable with a twigil, and all so-marked placeholder variables are aggregated, sorted alphabetically, and used to construct an implicit signature.
This is incompatible with an explicitly-listed signature, as the combination would be non-obvious. 00:10
So you're using $^foo or $:foo somewhere in your code, where you don't actually mean to be.
So, search for those twigils
takadonet1 Tene: thanks for the help 00:11
sucks that I gtg :(
Tene takadonet1: np glad to help
uasi rakudo: class A::B {}; my $x = "A::B".new; say "alive"; $x.WHAT; 04:40
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«Null PMC access in get_repr()␤ in main program body at line 22:/tmp/FvJxQWrYBc␤»
uasi class A {}; my $x = "A".new; $x.WHAT; say "alive";
rakudo: class A {}; my $x = "A".new; $x.WHAT; say "alive";
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«alive␤»
Tene .u ∿ 04:43
phenny U+223F SINE WAVE (∿)
TimToady rakudo: "A".new.WHAT.say 04:44
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«Null PMC access in get_repr()␤ in main program body at line 22:/tmp/fJmPPOils1␤»
TimToady rakudo: "Int".new.WHAT.say 04:46
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«Int()␤»
TimToady that's just so wrong
uasi 'nested_or_non-our-scoped_class'.new causes Null PMC access 04:47
TimToady it should create a Str 04:48
uasi er, _or_nonexistent
uasi nods
TimToady say "Int".WHAT 04:49
TimToady rakudo: say "Int".WHAT 04:49
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«Str()␤»
TimToady rakudo: say "Int".WHAT.new.WHAT
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«Str()␤»
TimToady :)
uasi oh
TimToady say "Int".bless(*).WHAT 04:51
rakudo: say "Int".bless(*).WHAT
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«Int()␤»
TimToady wrong
TimToady niecza: say "Int".bless(*).WHAT 04:58
p6eval niecza 406e042: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: Unable to resolve method bless in class Str␤ at line 1 (MAIN mainline @ 2)␤ at line 992 (SAFE G1322ANONC @ 1)␤ at line 992 (SAFE module-SAFE @ 29)␤ at line 992 (SAFE mainline @ 1)␤ at line 0 (boot-MAIN @ 1)␤ at line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0)␤"mono"
..unexpe…
fith Should "SomeChars".new.WHAT = Str?
rakudo: "Blah".new.WHAT.say 04:59
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«Null PMC access in get_repr()␤ in main program body at line 22:/tmp/xkZYycZ9pr␤»
fith rakudo: "Int".new.WHAT.say
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«Int()␤»
fith rakudo: "Str".new.WHAT.say
TimToady yes, .bless is supposed to only pay attention to the "WHAT" of its invocant
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«Str()␤»
uasi TimToady: we've discussed 'Foo'.new thing a few days ago, and pmichaud said the problem can be worked around irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2010-12-14#i_3086639
fith Ah okay, so what's between the ""'s shouldn't matter
TimToady sure, it can be worked around
new and bless are only supposed to pay attention to the type; it's like asking what the "charge" of a particle is without paying attention to its other attributes 05:01
fith OHH, okay, I see what you mean now.
TimToady undefined type objects are just charge carriers that don't happen to have actual data 05:02
uasi phenny: tell masak 'A::B'.new *is* the bug. see irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2010-12-19#i_3103401 05:03
phenny uasi: I'll pass that on when masak is around.
TimToady seems the fundamental problem is actually in .bless 05:05
anyway, this is probably parrot's p5ish semantics showing through 05:06
(p5 confused class names with strings all the time) 05:07
::() is the only thing that knows how to turn a string into a class (without using eval, that is) 05:08
moritz_ good morning 09:49
cotto: which perl are you running? 09:54
cotto moritz_, whatever's default on feather 09:56
looks like 5.10.1 09:57
moritz_ cotto: the default perl in $PATH is one in /usr/local/ 09:59
so it won't pick up packages installed via apt 10:00
moritz_ installs a new Bot::BasicBot with cpanm
uasi rakudo: {}.hash 12:40
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«Method 'hash' not found for invocant of class ''␤ in main program body at line 22:/tmp/MtYgzAJC02␤»
Trashlord what :|
uasi rakudo: (a => 1).hash.hash
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«Method 'hash' not found for invocant of class ''␤ in main program body at line 22:/tmp/9k7cyOL80J␤»
uasi rakudo: (a => 1).hash
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: ( no output )
uasi rakudo: (a => 1).hash.WHAT.say 12:41
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«Hash()␤»
moritz_ rakudo: say (a => 1).hash.PARROT
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«␤»
moritz_ ugh.
uasi :/
jeeger Greetings! Any tips on a perl6 book? I've finally caved in and installed rakudo^^ 12:56
tadzik try The Perl 6 Book :)
perl6.org/documentation/
moritz_ github.com/perl6/book/downloads
jeeger tadzik: That's too easy^^ 12:57
tadzik :)
jeeger Hm, pity that there is no epub version. 12:58
moritz_ jeeger: you could make one 12:59
if I understood correctly, epub is mostly xhtml + meta data 13:00
there's already a HTML or xhtml make target
jeeger Hm, I'll try that 13:01
jeeger Hm, the epub version looks okay, but converting to lrf killed all structure and highlighting. I'll have a look at the epub version on my reader... 13:22
uasi Adding a hash() method in src/core/Hash.pm solves the {}.hash problem: gist.github.com/747323
moritz_ uasi: can you please send a pull request? 13:26
uasi moritz_: sure 13:27
ardeshir rakudo: say " "x 9-$_,"#"x$_*2-1 for 0..9,2 xx 3; 13:29
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT« ␤ #␤ ###␤ #####␤ #######␤ #########␤ ###########␤ #############␤ ###############␤#################␤ ###␤ ###␤ ###␤»
uasi sent
moritz_ moritz.faui2k3.org/tmp/using-perl-6.zip my very naive attempt of epub conversion 13:32
ardeshir my Int $day = 23; $day = "Monday"; say $day; 13:35
Ah..type check fails.....nice 13:37
is my Any $x == my $x 13:39
jeeger Hm, Perl6 is working towards being a lisp, but it's still a perl. Yay!
moritz_ jeeger: it tries to be lisp, but with proper syntax and good names :-)
tadzik :)
ardeshir rakudo: my Any $day = 23; $day = "sunday"; say $day; 13:40
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«sunday␤»
tadzik ardeshir: you can ommit Any 13:41
rakudo: my $a = 5; $a = "b"; $a.WHAT.say
p6eval rakudo a95c1d: OUTPUT«Str()␤»
ardeshir tadzik: so it is the same as my $x 13:42
i see
p6 is sexy 13:43
tadzik ardeshir: have you used Perl 5?
ardeshir yes
but i have not read much of the p6 docs yet, will be doing that before adding any more noise here ;) 13:45
jeeger moritz_: I converted it to epub with calibre ebook-convert, and it looks pretty nice on my reader.
moritz_ jeeger: I tried it via the calibre GUI (from the html file), and it mangled the code sections 13:46
ie removed whitespaces
jeeger moritz_: Hm, I've yet to see a code section. 13:47
moritz_ jeeger: scroll down :-)
jeeger moritz_: Yep, mangled.
hmmm
moritz_: Hm, the html target doesn't output html. That could be the problem. 13:49
ah, forget it. Less filtered the tags
moritz_ it's HTML, but without header (iirc)
jeeger Hm, reading code on an ereader is not really a good idea 13:51
ardeshir from within p6's REPL (./perl6 !argc) can one load a script? 13:56
moritz_ eval slurp 'filename.pl' 14:07
ardeshir slurpit... thnx moritz_ 14:08
jeeger Aaaaaand we're back on the road to awful, terrible, innuendorific puns. 14:09
moritz_ jeeger: that was harmless. Just wait until jnthn has something to say again :-) 14:10
dalek kudo: a82071b | uasi++ | src/core/Hash.pm:
Implement Hash.hash

Signed-off-by: Moritz Lenz [email@hidden.address]		 16:30
shortcircuit This channel went on a pun spree, and I missed it? :( 16:35
moritz_ wasn't really much punning 16:47
masak y0, zebras. 17:23
phenny masak: 05:03Z <uasi> tell masak 'A::B'.new *is* the bug. see irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2010-12-19#i_3103401
masak well, yes and no.
I'm already aware that Str.new shouldn't behave like it does in Rakudo. 17:24
masak so... on second thought, maybe this Null PMC access wasn't really worth reporting. 17:24
(because it'll be fixed once the Str.new security hole is plugged)
tadzik hey masak
masak hi! \o/ 17:24
uasi_ masak: I mean, RT #80958 is missing the point 17:44
masak yes. thinking of merging it with the ticket that isn't :) 17:47
masak uasi_: rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=73144 17:50
masak merges 17:50
uasi_ masak++ 17:51
uasi_ masak: it would be enough just to close #80958, since doing .WHAT doesn't matter 18:07
masak true. I could have done that, too. 18:08
dalek kudo: 96d7e0d | KodiB++ | src/core/Temporal.pm:
[Temporal] Made the seconds part of Instant.Str use a leading 0 like DateTime.Str.

Thanks to
  perl6advent.wordpress.com/2010/12/1...omment-559
for the observation.		 18:09
uasi_ thinking how I can fix that 18:15
uasi_ needs parrot-fu
takadonet1 hey all 18:26
tadzik hey
moritz_ a parrot walks into a bar and says "Null PMC access in Beer" 18:27
takadonet1 ... 18:28
tadzik the bartender says: I'm shaked, not mixed
or: .WHAT? 18:30
abhi_ hi 18:42
anyone there
colomon o/
moritz_ oh hai 18:43
abhi_ o/ colomon
takadonet1 abhi_: yo
moritz_ just wondered why booting my laptopt didn't work with the self-built kernel
turned out I forgot ext4 support, and guess what the root file system is... :-)
takadonet1 hehe 18:44
colomon whoops!
abhi_ newbie to iRC
moritz_ now building a new kernel, and wishing for more cores 18:45
abhi_: welcome
abhi_ thanks moritz
sorry for your laptop thing 18:46
moritz_ no problem, just own stupidity :-)
abhi_ you all guys are working on perl 6 18:47
tadzik some on, some in
masak some merely interested.
moritz_ some are learning it, some are using it 18:48
masak some are lurkers with very persistent sessions ÖP
:P
abhi_ and some r masters!!!!!!!! 18:49
i have used perl 5 in ma college days
abhi_ how perl 6 is different from perl 5 18:50
??
masak rakudo: say "like this! :)" 18:51
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«like this! :)␤»
masak rakudo: class A { method foo { say "We have classes built-in" } }; A.new.foo
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«We have classes built-in␤»
flussence
.oO( I wouldn't doubt a few people here have actually mastered R )
moritz_ abhi_: we tried to correct all those errors that perl 5 made
masak rakudo: say 01234 18:52
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«1234␤»
masak submits rakudobug
moritz_ std: 01234
p6eval std 625303c: OUTPUT«Potential difficulties:␤ Leading 0 does not indicate octal in Perl 6; please use 0o1234 if you mean that at /tmp/qREqji4lGW line 1:␤------> 01234⏏<EOL>␤ok 00:01 118m␤»
flussence rakudo: say 0o1234
masak right.
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«668␤»
flussence rakudo: say '0o1234'.Int # works too
moritz_ masak: it should warn, but the outcome is OK
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«668␤»
masak moritz_: nod.
flussence (is Str.Int just parsing the Str using normal grammar?) 18:53
moritz_ flussence: not yet
masak moritz_: another place where turning off a particular warning with a pragma would be potentially useful.
abhi_ oh that really cool
let me start playing with perl 18:54
moritz_ abhi_: have you found perl6.org/ already?
abhi_ yes moritz 18:55
moritz_ great
abhi_ hey moritz those documentation books are enough for exploring or any other useful blogs 18:57
colomon planetsix.perlfoundation.org/ 18:59
abhi_ thanks colomon 19:02
masak abhi_: perl6advent.wordpress.com/ 19:04
colomon masak: planetsix is carrying perl6advent too. :) 19:05
masak yes, but only this year's posts :)
colomon oh, fair enough. 19:07
abhi_ thanks to all that was a great help!!
masak o/\o
lue ohai world o/ 19:09
masak lue: hi. nice blog post. 19:12
lue thank you. It'll be interesting to look at my pod parser code and laugh in embarrasment today :) 19:13
masak I find I laugh in embarrassment over my old code, but less and less. 19:14
masak seems I'm converging on something asymtotically. maybe due to discipline. 19:14
lue I'm going to hunt down what 'actions' are and how to use them, in case I might find them useful. 19:17
masak mind if I give you the quick tour?
moritz_ lue: did you read the grammar chapter in the book? 19:18
abhi_ i will be back soon with more queries
bye for today
masak abhi_: we await you with open arms.
colomon o/
abhi_ thanks o/ 19:19
masak \o 19:20
lue You mean *The Book* ? I honestly have never looked at it, I probably should.
masak lue:
rakudo: grammar G { regex TOP { ^ abc $ } }; say ?G.parse("abc")
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«Bool::True␤»
masak rakudo: grammar G { regex TOP { ^ abc $ } }; class G::Actions { method TOP($/) { say "TOP matched" } }; say ?G.parse("abc", :actions(G::Actions.new))
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«TOP matched␤Bool::True␤»
masak that should tell you how to plug in an actions object. 19:21
that's half of the secret of action classes. the other half is the built-in function &make.
masak with which you can adorn the tree of Match objects produced by the grammar. 19:22
every Match object has an .ast attribute, and calling &make sets it.
rakudo: grammar G { regex TOP { ^ abc $ } }; class G::Actions { method TOP($/) { make "Life, the Universe, and Everything" } }; G.parse("abc", :actions(G::Actions.new)); say $/.ast 19:23
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«Life, the Universe, and Everything␤»
masak lue: any questions?
lue Why would you want to use actions? I see "accessing the results in an easier fashion" as the answer, but I'm not sure. 19:27
moritz_ that's exactly it 19:28
tadzik also, it scales well
tadzik as the last year advent calendar entry says :) 19:28
masak usually, what you want to do when you get the tree of matches from the grammar parse, is to traverse that tree. actions are an easy way to do that *while parsing*, with much of the traversal boilerplate hidden. 19:29
tadzik actions are one of the most terrifying things before, and the most amazing once you learn them
s/once/after/
masak actions are the natural next stepping stone after one learns grammars. 19:30
arnsholt Actions are bloody brilliant 19:31
=)
lue [looking at book] Seems like actions are natural for such things as Pod parsers. I think I will most likely use them, after reading up on them.
colomon actions++ 19:33
masak lue: sounds excellent. ask as soon as you have more questions -- so far they've been great.
arnsholt lue: Actions are a natural thing for parsers =)
lue It would explain why I thought &parse was a bloody difficult thing to use. colomon++ for his advent post (day 18), for without it I would have only known of actions as a file in rakudo :) 19:34
colomon Glad it was useful to you. :) 19:35
for sure grammars + actions are fantastic.
masak I think pmichaud mentioned that he invented actions (in Perl 6). 19:36
colomon really? I just assumed it was part of the original grammar scheme.
masak no, I think not.
one nice thing is that one can have several action classes for the same grammar.
depending on the desired backend, for example. 19:37
colomon I've been wondering how well that will work in practice.
masak time will tell.
colomon I've noticed that I've tweaked the ABC grammar to make it work better with the actions I am currently writing.
masak that sounds like a very sane thing to do. 19:38
colomon not clear that the tweaks would work properly for a completely different set of actions.
masak well, the actions are a sort of "client" to the grammar.
colomon I think it will be very interesting to see where best practices for them lands four or five years from now.
masak so making the grammar conform to what the action(s) desire is only natural.
of course, with many action classes, there might be competing constraints.
but there likely would have been anyway, due to waterbedding :P 19:39
lue rakudo: Grammar G { regex TOP { ^ <alpha>+ $ } }; class G::Actions { method TOP($/) { make "You said $/" } }; G.parse("hello", :actions(G::Actions.new)); say $/.ast; 19:43
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Confused at line 22, near "Grammar G "␤»
lue rakudo: grammar G { regex TOP { ^ <alpha>+ $ } }; class G::Actions { method TOP($/) { make "You said $/" } }; G.parse("hello", :actions(G::Actions.new)); say $/.ast;
masak small 'g' in 'grammar'
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«You said hello␤»
lue I thought so. 19:44
masak lue: very good. now answer me this: are actions top-down or bottom-up?
lue
.oO(hm. I would guess, but that's not the point.) based on what I've seen so far, I would guess top-down.
 19:45
flussence is there a way in rakudo to write a MAIN(Str ~~ any(@command-names)) so that the auto-generated help text lists the @command-names?
tadzik I'd go for writing my own USAGE 19:46
masak lue: they're bottom-up.
lue: smaller rules finish before the bigger rules do. TOP finishes last.
flussence oh wow, there's a USAGE sub? learning something new every day :) 19:47
tadzik :)
the “help text” is the default USAGE sub
lue I can tell there are some implications to that, but I don't see it. [TOP stomps on smaller rules' asts?] 19:48
tadzik lue: the smaller tokens are "make"'d first 19:49
time for me, see you zebras!
masak tadzik: \o :)
tadzik (and I plan to come back with one or 2 Rakudo patches, but shh!) 19:50
masak lue: in practice it means that in any given action method, you can see the .ast attributes of all descendent match objects.
lue o/ tadzik
masak ++tadzik
tadzik (if you want write them before)
o/
lue aaah.
masak & 19:52
colomon huh
rakudo: my $a = 10; say $a[0]
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«10␤» 19:53
colomon I think I understand why it happens, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not...
lue rakudo: my $a = (1,2); say $a[1] # just checkin' 19:54
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«2␤»
lue Is look at rakudo's Actions.pm (a good idea|insane) for learning about actions? 20:01
look*ing*
moritz_ it's a bit big for that :-) 20:02
colomon lue: rakudo's Actions.pm is very complicated.
lue So the answer is any(Bool::False, Bool::True) ? [if I remember the output format correctly] 20:03
colomon rakudo: say ^1 20:06
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«0␤»
arnsholt rouen886 20:22
Er, wrong window
thundergnat Good * #perl6 20:41
colomon \o 20:44
thundergnat When you have a sort modifier block, is it legal to have a secondary sort term in the modifier block? I vaguely remember seeing code like that somewhere but can't seem to find it anywhere. 20:50
Or does that even make sense?
colomon I'm not sure.
thundergnat for instance, sort by word length with a secondary ASCII sort: my @sorted = @unsorted.sort: { $^a.chars, $^a };
colomon ah! 20:51
I think that's legal in theory but NYI in Rakudo.
thundergnat I sort of works locally
but it is buggy if it is legal
colomon sure, if you encode both things to a single thing that cmp works on it will probably work already. 20:52
flussence rakudo: <duck cake umbrella cardboard>.sort({ $^a.chars, $^a }).Str.say # now I'm curious
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«cake duck umbrella cardboard␤»
colomon I'm trying to remember what the name is of the official type. Ordering, or something like that...
flussence rakudo: <duck cake umbrella cardboard>.sort(*.chars, *).Str.say # will this work? 20:53
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«Too many positional parameters passed; got 3 but expected between 1 and 2␤ in 'Parcel::sort' at line 1395:CORE.setting␤ in main program body at line 22:/tmp/eCzVnSjbDI␤»
flussence it'd be nice if that did...
colomon Ordering, indeed.
thundergnat it ""works" except it does a string comparison on the word lengths.
so length 10 sorts before length 2 20:54
colomon still don't know where it's defined in the spec, alas.
thundergnat colomon: yeah, I couldn't find it either...
colomon it's definitely NYI in Rakudo.
you can do this the other way, though...
thundergnat Sigh. That would (will) be so cool... 20:55
colomon rakudo: <duck cake umbrella cardboard>.sort({ $^a.chars <=> $^b.chars || $a leg $b }).Str.say
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«cake duck umbrella cardboard␤»
thundergnat Since sort is stable, could easily do my @sorted = @unsorted.sort.sort: { $^a.chars }; 20:56
colomon Hmmm... you may well be right about that, but I don't see stable in the spec, and I'm not sure I'd trust Rakudo actually have stable sorts yet. And writing out the comparison the long way does work now. 20:59
rakudo: <duck cake umbrella cardboard>.sort.sort(*.chars).Str.say 21:00
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«cake duck umbrella cardboard␤»
colomon well, that works. thundergnat++
flussence grr... trying to write a MAIN sub so I can do "perl6 ./program commandname", but it's not working: 21:03
multi sub MAIN(Str $command where { $_ ~~ @commands }) { }
moritz_ flussence: did you mean: $_ ~~ any @commands ? 21:04
flussence probably :)
colomon moritz_++
flussence that's the one... I'd been trying a bunch of different things and that was what I gave up at 21:05
thundergnat colomon: according to the perl6 book github.com/perl6/book/blob/master/...asics.pod, perl6 has stable sort, and I am willing to take that as authoritative.
moritz_ is wililng to take the spec as authoritative 21:07
colomon is willing to take TimToady as authoritative ;) 21:09
colomon some days, anyway. 21:09
thundergnat heh
flussence hmm, now it won't fall through to USAGE() when I feed it a non-matching string...
colomon rakudo: my ($s, $t) = 0.1, 0.2; say $s ~~ (0, 1) && $t ~~ (0, 1)
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«Bool::False␤»
colomon precedence?
rakudo: my ($s, $t) = 0.1, 0.2; say ($s ~~ (0, 1)) && ($t ~~ (0, 1)) 21:10
p6eval rakudo 96d7e0: OUTPUT«Bool::False␤»
masak er.
colomon yah, er
masak are you trying to treat parcels as ranges?
colomon doh!
masak why not use ranges instead? :)
colomon thought I was.
colomon :| 21:11
well, that's an easy enough fix, maybe
I wanted the ^..^ op, just spelled it entirely incorrectly. 21:12
ah, that's the last piece I needed for p2 21:14
lue I have a lot of stuff in my code that involves finding what's in the match object, and then one line to do something about it. Think that could be replace with actions? :) 21:16
colomon sounds likely. 21:17
colomon reluctantly decides 2 R%% [+] is just too cutesy
lue waits for the net.join('') :) 21:18
arnsholt What's the %% operator?
flussence lue: wouldn't that be a net.cat? :P
lue not in Perl 6 land (unless there is a cat sub) 21:19
flussence S32:52...
lue .oO[ which S32? :) ]
flussence any()! (ok, containers) 21:20
colomon lue: cat is the lazy string type 21:20
colomon but it's NYI, and mostly Not Yet Spec'd. 21:20
lue [ ah! the netjoin hath occured! \o/ ] 21:21
arnsholt colomon: Re your statement above, it'd be "sum is divisible by two", no? 21:22
colomon arnsholt: yes 21:22
colomon is getting quite frustrated that his point in loop code isn't working. 21:50
jnthn o/ from Cologne 21:57
Not quite where I expected to be today but... :)
arnsholt At least they should have beer =) 21:59
jnthn They *do* have beer.
I enjoyed some, before having to come back and try and fix my travel plan up. 22:00
In theory, I may make it back to the UK tomorrow.
lue hi jnthn o/
jnthn o/ lue
lue
.oO(must... avoid... puns... [they'd have people hoppin'!])
flussence jnthn: getting the train? All the airports here are closed from what I read. 22:01
jnthn flussence: Not all :) 22:10
flussence: No, the train plan was EPIC FAIL. Long story.
flussence: Basically, the whole thing fell apart before I even got out of Sweden.
flussence ouch. 22:11
I went on long-distance rail for the first time in years last month, wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be. 22:12
jnthn The incompetence and lack of any organization was disgusting. Seeing people fighting each other to get on the few replacement bus services there were was just sad (one guy looked pretty bad, lying in the freezing snow).
Thankfully, in Denmark they actually have a clue how to make stuff work and treat people. 22:13
jnthn But there was no way to really recover the trip overall. I missed the critical connection I needed to get, and with that missed, the whole lot was screwed. 22:14
I do a lot of long-distance rail and it usually is very pleasant and works just fine.
jnthn Ah well. At least I got some nice German beer out of it. :) 22:17
flussence the only other time I went long-distance, it was because we'd got on the wrong train and didn't realise for a while :) 22:19
jnthn lol 22:21
I laugh but I'm sure I'll manage that one day too 22:22
Thankfully my "wrong train" incidents tend to have been confined to underground railways in cities, where on can't go that long a way without finding out "oops" :)
*one
The cool places have circular lines. Then even if you do get on the train going in the wrong direction, you still get there...eventually. :-) 22:23
arnsholt I once took the wrong last train for the night 22:25
Thankfully it was summer =)
flussence
.oO( I wouldn't want to be stranded in this weather, day or night... )
 22:26
arnsholt Yeah. I could just walk back to the city and wait for the first train the next morning 22:27
jnthn arnsholt: d'oh. 22:28
arnsholt: Yes, doing that with the last train is...problematic.
lue is wishing trains existed in USA, to share in this storytelling 22:29
flussence they're only buses on rails here anyway, you're not missing a lot :P 22:32
(in the UK anyway; mainland EU gets all the fun stuff...) 22:33
lue but still, the best we got here is government-sanctioned sexual harassment and pornography at the airport :/ 22:34
arnsholt jnthn: Yeah. But it was during the summer holiday, so I got a good story out of it and no major problems =)
flussence lue: those aren't much better here. I'd rather take the boat these days... 22:37
lue
.oO(What happens when a child goes through a full-body scanner?)
 22:38
flussence cooks 'em faster. 22:40
(oh c'mon google, why can't I look up my own IP address on gmaps?) 22:41
jeeger It goes over it's head 22:45
lue time for me to go the way of the nom (nomdō ?). Bai! o/ 22:46
jnthn nomdo :D 22:51
arnsholt Huh. The competition is teaching me all kinds of useful stuff 22:54
jnthn takes some rest & 23:03
dalek rixel: 042032b | diakopter++ | / (20 files):
push of updated sprixel files
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dalek rixel: 79fcca0 | diakopter++ | sprixel/s (6 files):
add the antlr-generated lexer/parser/compiler
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