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Set by sorear on 4 February 2011.
colomon o/ 00:03
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diakopter eagerly awaits Pm's appearance tomorrow 01:02
cognominal linuxfr published my news :) linuxfr.org/news/calendriers-de-lav...-et-perl-6 01:04
diakopter "About Perl 6, given the limited common with Perl 5 in terms of language, I wonder why it is still called Perl. I feel that there is about as much in common between Perl 5 and Perl 6 between the C and assembler (keeping in mind that we can carry the assembler in C very easily)." 01:06
the last comment, translated
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sorear does the p6 faq have an entry for that yet? 01:08
cognominal I made a mistake about BigInt being a special type. I forgot that had become the regular Int.
diakopter is having fun using Eclipse for textbook-exercises in Java. what a great IDE. 01:09
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sorear diakopter: I can't tell if that was sarcasm 01:26
colomon sorear: just added the ability to increase the number of iterations for a window 01:27
(not yet pushed)
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diakopter sorear: not sarcasm 01:35
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djanatyn moritz: I think I'm going to need an extension >_> 02:03
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colomon sorear: just pushed a patch which allows you to write out any fractal you're viewing as a PPM file. 03:29
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sorear nifty 03:32
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moritz good morning 05:02
djanatyn: deadline extended by 24h
djanatyn moritz: :D 05:03
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djanatyn thank you. I've been playing around with roast, and Tene told me a bit about &[+] 05:03
moritz djanatyn: I'd recommened to use the example code from the ticket, and replace the call to say() with a call to a test function 05:04
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japhb_ On my local system: 06:36
> ':16«f.8*:4[2]**:2<1*2**2>»/-:60[1,0]'.Numeric.perl
-62/15
\o/
moritz \o/ 06:42
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jnthn *yawn* 07:46
morning, #perl6
sorear hi jnthn
jnthn japhb_: Nice .Numeric work! :)
o/ sorear
commute, bbs 08:00
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tadzik gmorning 08:18
moritz \o 08:20
sorear hello
moritz jnthn: t/spec/S32-array/splice.rakudo segfaults here 08:21
jnthn: gist.github.com/1432838 08:22
japhb jnthn, thank you. :-) 08:30
g'night all! 08:33
moritz japhb: have you pushed that to a branch_ 08:34
s/_/?/
japhb: if not, please do so very soon
... and good night to japhb :-)
japhb Sure, give me a sec.
OK, should be there. 08:35
str-numeric
rebased on to nom a few hours ago.
dalek kudo/str-numeric: 499ce20 | (Geoffrey Broadwell)++ | src/core/Str.pm:
WIP snapshot of Str.Numeric rewrite
kudo/str-numeric: 7e86fa8 | (Geoffrey Broadwell)++ | src/core/Str.pm:
Remove no-longer-needed workarounds
kudo/str-numeric: d3645a8 | (Geoffrey Broadwell)++ | src/core/Str.pm:
Refactor Str.Numeric parse failures and pos updates so that failure messages can show exact position of error in source string; wrap a few long lines in same code sections
kudo/str-numeric: 6d35d8c | (Geoffrey Broadwell)++ | src/core/Str.pm:
Support :16<f.8*2**3> and :16«f.8*:4[2]**:2<1*2**2>» style radix/multiplier/exponent style numbers in Str.Numeric; add missing ASCII value comment
japhb It should *not* be merged until Failure handling is resolved. 08:36
moritz understood
japhb OK, *now* sleep & 08:37
sorear sleep
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moritz nomo: my class X::Foo { ... }; my class X::Foo { }; 08:44
nom: my class X::Foo { ... }; my class X::Foo { };
p6eval nom 48b979: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤The following packages were stubbed but not defined:␤ X::Foo␤␤»
moritz works with s:g/X/Y/
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sorear nom: say X; 08:50
p6eval nom 48b979: OUTPUT«X()␤»
sorear nom: my package X { }; class X::Foo { ... }; class X::Foo { } 08:51
p6eval nom 48b979: ( no output )
moritz nom: class X::Foo { ... }; class X::Foo { };
p6eval nom 48b979: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤The following packages were stubbed but not defined:␤ X::Foo␤␤»
moritz nom: ny package X { }; my class X::Foo { ... }; my class X::Foo { };
p6eval nom 48b979: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤CHECK FAILED:␤Undefined routine '&ny' called (line 1)␤» 08:52
moritz nom: my package X { }; my class X::Foo { ... }; my class X::Foo { };
p6eval nom 48b979: ( no output )
moritz (FWIW, the 'my' sometimes made a difference in the past)
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jnthn moritz: Delightful. A crash *inside* GC. :/ 09:09
tadzik yo dawg 09:10
jnthn moritz: I thought we patched that declaration thing last week...
moritz jnthn: it seems that the presence of other X:: packages make a difference 09:11
nom: my class Y::A { ... }; my class Y::A { }
p6eval nom 48b979: ( no output )
moritz without them, it works
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jnthn Oddness. That'd mean it was installing the stub in one place, but then failing to find it when it goes looking for an existing declaration. 09:12
moritz: I suspect the splice one is one of the romaing GC segfaults. I'm pretty sure it didn't happen locally for me. :( 09:16
moritz jnthn: if it helps, I could give you ssh access to a linux box where it's reproducable 09:17
jnthn moritz: May help. I will see if running under the debugger catches it, though will have to be this evening once I'm home. 09:20
moritz jnthn: I'm building as a separate user now, to see if it can reproduce the segfault 09:21
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moritz jnthn: hm, can't easily reproduce :/ 09:34
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moritz updated perl6advent.wordpress.com/2011/12/0...ndar-2011/ with links to the posts 09:40
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jnthn moritz: yeah, that's always the issue with GC things :( 09:44
perl6advent.wordpress.com/2011/12/0...-operator/ seems to have linebreaks in odd places 09:45
moritz nom: say so 'ab' ~~ /(.)+/; say $/[0].WHAT 09:46
p6eval nom 48b979: OUTPUT«Bool::True␤Parcel()␤»
moritz nom: say so 'ab' ~~ /(.)+/; say $/[0].elems
p6eval nom 48b979: OUTPUT«Bool::True␤2␤»
moritz nom: say so 'ab' ~~ /(.)+/; say $/[0][0].Str
p6eval nom 48b979: OUTPUT«Bool::True␤a␤»
moritz nom: say so 'ab' ~~ /(.)+/; say $/.list.elems 09:47
p6eval nom 48b979: OUTPUT«Bool::True␤1␤»
moritz nom: say so 'ab' ~~ /(.)+/; say $/.list[0].elems
p6eval nom 48b979: OUTPUT«Bool::True␤2␤»
moritz fixes the line breaks
even the HTML view of the posts isn't the actual HTML that appears on the page 09:49
nom: my @a = @( 'a' ~~ /(.)+/ ); say @a.elems; say @a[0].elems 09:50
p6eval nom 48b979: OUTPUT«1␤0␤»
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moritz nom: my @a = @( 'a' ~~ /(.)+/ ); say @a[0].WHAT 09:50
p6eval nom 48b979: OUTPUT«Match()␤»
moritz hm, shouldn't that be a Parcel?
jnthn nom: my @a = @( 'a' ~~ /(.)+/ ); say @a.perl 09:53
p6eval nom 48b979: OUTPUT«Array.new(Match.new(orig => "a", from => 0, to => 1, ast => Any, list => ().list, hash => EnumMap.new()))␤»
jnthn nom: say @( 'a' ~~ /(.)+/ ).perl;
p6eval nom 48b979: OUTPUT«((Match.new(orig => "a", from => 0, to => 1, ast => Any, list => ().list, hash => EnumMap.new()),),).list␤»
jnthn moritz: I guess the parcel flattens?
moritz hm, right 09:55
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dalek kudo/nom: e9733c5 | moritz++ | src/core/Any.pm:
implement item()
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ast: 8d0856d | moritz++ | S32-array/splice.t:
unfudge an item() test
jnthn wonders what shape the star repo is in with respect to nom 10:28
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dalek ast: 445d836 | moritz++ | S0 (2 files):
rakudo unfudges
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ast: 97c4f95 | moritz++ | S03-smartmatch/any-hash (2 files):
rename a smartmatch file, and clean in up
kudo/nom: d0c1523 | moritz++ | t/spectest.data:
track test file rename
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dalek kudo/nom: 568aed7 | moritz++ | lib/Test.pm:
[Test] fix typo and error diagnostics
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felher happily reads through the perl6 advent calendar :) 13:33
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dalek kudo/nom: cd3a5d7 | coke++ | t/spectest.data:
track failure modes
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muixirt perl6: for 1..20 { .say if $_ == 9 ff $_ == 13; } 13:40
p6eval niecza v12-3-g193ca57: OUTPUT«9␤10␤11␤12␤13␤»
..pugs b927740: OUTPUT«*** No such subroutine: "&infix:ff"␤ at /tmp/WJIEomF78Z line 1, column 21-42␤»
..rakudo d0c152: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Flip flop operators are not yet implemented at line 1, near " $_ == 13"␤»
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dalek ast: ae9d8ff | moritz++ | S (2 files):
fudge and correct tests
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moritz nom: class C1 { }; class C2 is C1 { }; sub f(C1 @x) { }; my C2 @y; f @y
p6eval nom d0c152: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤CHECK FAILED:␤Calling 'f' will never work with argument types (C2) (line 1)␤ Expected: :(Positional @x)␤»
moritz jnthn: bug, or NYI? 13:45
jnthn moritz: Definite bug, I know pretty much exactly what it is.
moritz jnthn: tested in S14-roles/parameter-subtyping.t 13:46
jnthn moritz: There's a far simpler case of it too
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jnthn nom: my Int @x; my Int @y; @x := @y; 13:46
p6eval nom d0c152: OUTPUT«Type check failed in binding␤ in block <anon> at /tmp/3zslD9JDm7:1␤ in <anon> at /tmp/3zslD9JDm7:1␤»
jnthn nom: my @x; @x := 42; # also related
p6eval nom d0c152: ( no output )
dalek kudo/nom: 15ba074 | moritz++ | t/spectest.data:
run another test file
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colomon moritz++ 14:05
aloha Karma for moritz is now 2842
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jnthn wonders why aloha found that number more noteworthy than, say, any other one, and decided to tell us about it :) 14:10
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moritz jnthn++ 14:17
aloha Karma for jnthn is now 2464
moritz oh NOE!
[Coke] aloha, source?
aloha, master?
it's github.com/bacek/aloha, btw. looking now. 14:18
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[Coke] the source hasn't been updated since February 16, 2011. 14:20
moritz maybe it uses some modules that have been updated
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[Coke] search.cpan.org/~diz/Bot-BasicBot-P...e/Karma.pm 14:22
Responds with the new karma for <thing> unless karma_change_response is set to a false value. 14:23
looks fixable, anyway. ;)
moritz [Coke]++
[Coke] explain [Coke
aloha positive: nothing; negative: nothing; overall: 0.
[Coke] explain [Coke]
aloha positive: nothing; negative: nothing; overall: 0.
[Coke] explain moritz
aloha positive: | S02-types/hash.t: (dalek), | src/metamodel/how/NQPMu.pm: (dalek), | LHF.markdown: (dalek); negative: git commit -a without checking git diff first (moritz_), we have your karma. fix bug to get it back !:) (masak); overall: 2842.
[Coke] seen diz? 14:24
aloha diz was last seen in 15313 days 14 hours ago .
[Coke] nom: say 15313 / 365.24
p6eval nom 15ba07: OUTPUT«41.925856970759␤»
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jnthn ...is IRC evem 42 years old? :) 14:25
[Coke] seen thingthatdoesntexit?
aloha thingthatdoesntexit was last seen in 15313 days 14 hours ago .
[Coke] Looks like a bug, going back to epoch.
(which is slightly older than I am, so I spot it often. ;)
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[Coke] That's probably search.cpan.org/~diz/Bot-BasicBot-P...le/Seen.pm 14:26
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[Coke] iwbni perl's advent calendar shared a feed every year. 14:42
(perl 5, that is)
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[Coke] aloha: ask rjbs if we can get a perl5 advent calendar RSS feed that will show all years, not just the current year. 15:12
phenny: ask rjbs if we can get a perl5 advent calendar RSS feed that will show all years, not just the current year.
phenny [Coke]: I'll pass that on when rjbs is around.
dalek kudo/nom: d9a22f4 | moritz++ | src/core/List.pm:
coerce the RHS to Int in infix:<xx>

fixes things like $val xx @array		 15:18
ast: d9bb314 | moritz++ | S03-operators/repeat.t:
rakudo unfudge
moritz enjoyed watching vimeo.com/9270320 15:21
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moritz the information density isn't all that high, but it's... enjoyable nonethelss 15:24
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dalek kudo/nom: b8ee2ed | coke++ | t/spectest.data:
track failure modes
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moritz nom: sub f(:$a!, $b) { } 15:43
p6eval nom d9a22f: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Cannot put required parameter after variadic parameters at line 1, near ") { }"␤»
moritz :$a! isn't optional, so that error message makes little sense 15:44
std: sub f(:$a!, $b) { }
p6eval std be1f10e: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Cannot put required parameter after variadic parameters at /tmp/xI4t8RynP1 line 1:␤------> sub f(:$a!, $b⏏) { }␤Potential difficulties:␤ $b is declared but not used at /tmp/xI4t8RynP1 line 1:␤------> sub f(:$a!,…
jnthn hm, fail 15:45
Should probably say "after named parameters" or so...
At least Rakudo is consistent with STD here ;)
tadzik 6 failures in t/spec/S05-mass/properties-general.rakudo, known? 15:46
dalek ast: 3f59192 | moritz++ | S12-methods/what.t:
correct tests that called positional arguments by name
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[Coke] tadzik: I'll kick off a spectest here. 15:53
jnthn I have vague memories of hearing about differeing pass/results on those tests. 15:54
Maybe different ICU version or something...
tadzik moritz: commented github.com/perl6/roast/commit/3f591925fe 15:55
moritz (properties-general) fails here too
I suspect different ICU version too
tadzik: there's no mention of Multi or MultiSub in the specs 15:56
jnthn It doesn't make any sense since the multi spec changed 15:57
tadzik so what does this RT expect?
oh, it's outdated I guess
jnthn decommute ^ 15:58
&
moritz tadzik: it is
tadzik okay
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moritz the ticket just wanted it to not Null PMC Access 16:00
tadzik okay 16:01
dalek ast: 3d1207b | moritz++ | S02-names-vars/names.t:
unfudge passing tests
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dalek kudo/nom: bef928a | moritz++ | src/Perl6/Grammar.pm:
fix parsing of "enum" as identifier
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lichtkind i think i have a advent topic 16:06
colomon \o/
lichtkind the new hash methods
or is that taken?
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lichtkind i checked old calendars 16:07
by taken i mean in your plan
tadzik new hash methods?
lichtkind y
moritz what new hash methods? 16:08
lichtkind allright last year they were new
moritz what hash methods?
classify? 16:09
... and categorize
lichtkind yes
moritz lichtkind: then please add your name and topic to the schedule file in the mu repo 16:10
lichtkind moritz: i better write first the text
moritz nom: $_ = 3; for 1 -> $a { $_ = 5 }; .say 16:11
p6eval nom b8ee2e: OUTPUT«5␤»
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moritz nom: say &[<=>].WHAT 16:15
p6eval nom b8ee2e: OUTPUT«Sub()␤»
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moritz nom: say &[<=>].('1', '4'( 16:16
p6eval nom b8ee2e: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Unable to parse postcircumfix:sym<( )>, couldn't find final ')' at line 1␤»
moritz nom: say &[<=>].('1', '4')
p6eval nom b8ee2e: OUTPUT«-1␤»
TimToady nom: say '1'.&[<=>]('4') 16:17
p6eval nom b8ee2e: OUTPUT«-1␤»
moritz nom: say sort &[<=>], <1 4 3 6 2> 16:18
p6eval nom b8ee2e: OUTPUT«No applicable candidates found to dispatch to for 'infix:<<=>>'. Available candidates are:␤:(int $a, int $b)␤:(num $a, num $b)␤:(Int $a, Int $b)␤:(Num $a, Num $b)␤:(Instant $a, Instant $b)␤:(Date $a, Date $b)␤:(Real $a, Real $b)␤:(Any $a, Any $b)␤␤ in sub infix:<<=>>…
moritz doesn't understand why
nom: say &[<=>].arity 16:19
p6eval nom b8ee2e: OUTPUT«1␤»
moritz nom: say &[<=>].count
p6eval nom b8ee2e: OUTPUT«1␤»
moritz ah 16:20
so it tries to invoke it with one argument only
jnthn: see above
moritz goes through the nom regressions in roast
TimToady though &[] is supposed to force 2-arg
moritz I know 16:21
TimToady maybe because chaining?
er, wait, no
moritz and that implies that the tests that do ok &infix:<==> === &[==] are wrong 16:22
TimToady nom: say &[cmp].arity
p6eval nom b8ee2e: OUTPUT«2␤»
moritz TimToady: no, default values for reduction
(I guess)
because if &[==] forces arity 2, and &infix:<==> does not, they can't be the same 16:23
TimToady nom: say &[leg].arity
p6eval nom b8ee2e: OUTPUT«1␤»
TimToady leg is also 1
but not cmp?!?
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[Coke] gist.github.com/1434231 # for tadzik - i miss being able to just paste this into a bot on the web. 16:42
tadzik [Coke]: I didn't get that failures, and I have the same TODO passing 16:43
moritz I can declare a my constant i = 1i; if I put it into SAFE.setting
[Coke] tadzik: just unfudged that todo passing.
tadzik ok cool
moritz but it loops if I put it into src/core/ somwhere
[Coke] tadzik: you have a 64 bit box? 16:44
moritz (compilation loops, that is)
tadzik [Coke]: yes
dalek ast: 29ee946 | coke++ | S03-operators/range.t:
unfudge for rakudo/nom
jnthn moritz: compilation loops probably means exception handling fail :/ 16:45
[Coke] tadzik: that'll do it.
jnthn Or at least, that's what I've tended to encounter.
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jnthn &[+] is kinda cheating at the moment - I didn't make it filter to arity 2. Not sure what they best way to do that is...it'd kinda suck to re-compute the arity-2 list every time, but I'm not sure where to stash it either. 16:45
PerlJam jnthn: got a second? Could you explain to me the process by which method lookup happens? I think the first time the method is called, we get find_method, and the result of that is put in the cache and then executed. Future method calls read from the cache. Is that correct? 16:47
jnthn PerlJam: no 16:48
PerlJam: At compose time, we pre-emptively populate the method cache.
PerlJam ah.
jnthn PerlJam: NQP doesn't have to support any kind of dispatch failover, so it goes a step further and marks the cache as authoritative, meaning that normal dispatches never have to call .^find_method
PerlJam Hmm 16:50
jnthn Well, I should say NQP's meta-objects
We have an interest in being able to say "no such method" quite fast in NQP. 16:51
PerlJam jnthn: I was looking at Grammar::Debugger ... correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it create a new routine on each method call?
jnthn: I was thinking the way to optimize that was to call .wrap() on the method once and put that in the cache, but I guess I'd have to introspect the method names and call .wrap on them at compose time to populate the cache appropriately. 16:52
jnthn PerlJam: If you wrap it then you'll damage to original. 16:53
*the
PerlJam: The answer is to cache the computed closures. 16:54
PerlJam: It'd make things faster, though I'm not sure how much.
PerlJam okay, thanks for the input (I just think about these things in the interstices when I'm procrastinating at work :) 16:56
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tadzik bug of the day: Foo *a = malloc(...); memset(&a, ...); 17:04
jnthn oops :) 17:05
tadzik (wtf, why did this malloc return 0)
mux yes, why? that's actually an interesting question
tadzik memset expects a pointer to the memory location
mux oh scratch that, I didn't see the erroneous &
tadzik me neither
mux I thought you were talking about something else entirely :D
tadzik me too 17:06
:)
flussence I vaguely remember reading somewhere that 0 is a valid return value for malloc...
mux flussence: it is
the thing is it rarely happens in practice
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tadzik it is, but it would be... extremely suprising :) 17:06
mux (by 0 I meant NULL here)
flussence or was it that it's a valid input value...
tadzik I started to think "so malloc got broken and the system still runs? wow"
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ashleydev on the iphone that wouldn't be as rare 17:25
but if you wait a while it'll clear out some memory space and it'll probably work the 2nd time 17:26
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sorear good * #perl6 17:36
ashleydev * 17:38
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colomon o/ 17:42
arnsholt flussence: malloc will return NULL if it failed to allocate the requested amount of memory 17:43
colomon woah. one of the political blogs out there has just done a post inspired by the Flip-Flop operator post. 17:48
moritz colomon: URL? 17:50
colomon theothermccain.com
there's a trackback, that's how I learned about it.
theothermccain.com/2011/12/05/softw...flip-flop/
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arnsholt colomon: That was one of the less coherent posts I've read in a while =) 17:54
colomon I wouldn't be surprised if it doubles our page views just by accident, though. :)
arnsholt Indeed =) 17:55
Speaking of page views, has the advent calendar been submitted to HN/Slashdot?
moritz arnsholt: I'm not aware of a /. submission
arnsholt: but it would be great to have one 17:56
[Coke] colomon++ 17:58
aloha Karma for colomon is now 183
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colomon [Coke]: er, what have I done now? ;) 17:59
arnsholt moritz: This is the third year of Perl 6 advent, no? 18:00
colomon arnsholt: yes
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[Coke] moritz: and still no real production release? ;) 18:05
colomon: whoops! I thought you wrote the blog post. anyway, thanks for noting the linkback. 18:08
arnsholt There we go. Submitted to slashdot as well: slashdot.org/submission/1870962/per...t-calendar
[Coke] PerlJam++ # No, I still don't think I'll ever use the flipflop operator.
aloha Karma for perljam is now 55
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colomon I've never used the flipflop, but after reading this it does feel to me like there is some cool application for it, hiding off in the shadows somewhere... 18:13
sorear flipflop's reason for existing is, like so many other Perl feaures, s2p 18:14
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sorear '/foo/,/bar/d' becomes 'print unless /foo/ ff /bar/' 18:15
PerlJam I used to used flip-flop all the time in Perl 5 (not so much lately) but I still had a hard time explaining it in words.
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moritz PerlJam: the weird thing is that the flip-flop operator carries state 18:39
PerlJam: unlike any/most other operators
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colomon moritz: yeah, I was wondering how it was implemented.... 18:41
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[Coke] my $foo = 42; ($foo, "stuff")[0] = 24; say $foo; 19:09
perl6: my $foo = 42; ($foo, "stuff")[0] = 24; say $foo; 19:10
p6eval pugs b927740: OUTPUT«*** Can't modify constant item: VRef <Scalar:0x7f41cc366fa1>␤ at /tmp/g6RkzZzOIu line 1, column 15-38␤»
..rakudo bef928: OUTPUT«Cannot assign to a readonly variable or a value␤ in block <anon> at /tmp/eROaY_J02E:1␤ in <anon> at /tmp/eROaY_J02E:1␤»
..niecza v12-3-g193ca57: OUTPUT«24␤»
[Coke] std: my $foo = 42; ($foo, "stuff")[0] = 24; say $foo;
p6eval std be1f10e: OUTPUT«ok 00:01 124m␤»
[Coke] b: my $foo = 42; ($foo, "stuff")[0] = 24; say $foo;
p6eval b 1b7dd1: OUTPUT«24␤»
[Coke] are b and niecza right?
moritz I think so 19:11
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dalek ast: 88b5007 | coke++ | S02-types/lists.t:
Convert regression to RT
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raiph greetings, flying camels 19:55
tadzik hello raiph
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colomon nom: say 'This "is" "really" a test'.comb(/ <-["]>/) 20:03
p6eval nom bef928: OUTPUT«T h i s i s r e a l l y a t e s t␤» 20:04
colomon oooo, right in one! :)
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felher If i have a grammar, consisting only of regexes (which i think do backtrack) and i have a regex of structure 'regex A { \h* [<B>] \h* }' and change it to 'regex A { \h* [<A>|<B>] \h* }', how can the first parse something that the second can not? I'm only adding alternatives, am i not? 21:08
[Coke] could have negative assertions in <A>, no? 21:09
arnsholt Or could be some kind of LTMy bug
jnthn We don't do LTM on alternations yet in nom, fwiw. 21:10
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arnsholt Then probably not an LTMy bug =) 21:10
felher What workes is paste.pocoo.org/show/516795/
what doesn't is: paste.pocoo.org/show/516793/
diakopter are you using nom? 21:11
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felher diakopter: yes 21:11
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diakopter probably it doesn't work because backtracking into subrules doesn't work 21:12
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felher diakopter: Yeah, that would explain it. Thnx :) 21:14
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mberends \o/ 21:59
mberends iz riting teh next p6advent blogpost :0 22:00
colomon mberends++ 22:01
colomon is cooking noms and swearing at LilyPond
jnthn is feeling way too tired after somehow only managing 4 hours of sleep last night 22:02
colomon sometimes thinks LilyPond was designed by the STEP specific committee... 22:08
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jnthn manages to make 5000 tests fail 22:23
Fixed a longstanding RT though ;) 22:24
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benabik 5000 failures to fix one bug? Nice ratio. ;-) 22:28
mux that's one badass fix
jnthn Yeah, turns out that losing the type constraints on every parameter works wonders for failing tests. 22:30
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japhb_ jnthn, I think you should call that a win. ;-) 22:35
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jnthn :P 22:40
Got it fixed now
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jnthn Busted split...well, because it does something bad. 22:40
japhb_
.oO( Bad method! No biscuit! )
 22:42
jnthn Relied on @foo := ... not actually enforcing the sigil. 22:43
Which I've got fixed locally.
benabik ouch.
jnthn Not sure Rakudo's ever got this right before
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japhb_ jnthn, out of curiosity, what are you working on? 22:49
dalek ast: c486ab7 | jnthn++ | S14-roles/parameter-subtyping.t:
Correct a test, unfudge another.
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ast: 4f77025 | jnthn++ | S14-roles/parameterized-type.t:
Turns out we still passed this test for the wrong reasons; fudge it. :(
kudo/nom: 375bbe8 | jnthn++ | src/ (3 files):
Refactor to static type handling, so it relies on the bind constraint rather than the container descriptor. Fixes my @foo := 42; not failing, plus avoids giving the optimizer a bunch of crappy type info so it gives false positives when analyzing parameterized role arguments.
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kudo/nom: 32f00e7 | jnthn++ | src/core/Str.pm:
We now enforce the sigil when binding; fix split, which worked based on that check being missing.
kudo/nom: 40b3369 | jnthn++ | src/core/Array.pm:
First bit of enforcing typed array types.
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kudo/nom: 104beb8 | jnthn++ | t/spectest.data:
We can now run and pass all of parameter-subtyping.t.
jnthn japhb_: That lot ;)
japhb_: Another yak shave for doing arrays in NCI decently.
japhb_ Ah, gotcha!
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jnthn marks a 3 year old RT as testneeded 22:55
eek, German spam in the RT queue 22:56
"pray! Entspannt, Erfrischt, Macht fit!"
phenny: "pray! Entspannt, Erfrischt, Macht fit!"?
phenny jnthn: The de to en translation failed, sorry!
jnthn aww
jnthn wanted to learn 3 new words :)
benabik translate.google.com: Pray! Relaxed, refreshed, might fit! 22:57
jnthn ah 22:58
I'm pretty sure "might fit" is a bad translation.
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jnthn It's "might" as in "power", iiuc. 22:58
nom: my &foo = 42 23:00
p6eval nom bef928: OUTPUT«Type check failed in assignment to '&foo'; expected 'Callable' but got 'Int'␤ in block <anon> at /tmp/DXxkH5_axL:1␤ in <anon> at /tmp/DXxkH5_axL:1␤»
jnthn \o/ 23:01
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dalek ast: 3f1e455 | jnthn++ | S16-filehandles/filetest.t:
Fudging; verification on a platform other than Windows would be helpful.
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lichtkind jnthn: correct translation is: makes agile 23:25
dalek kudo/nom: e5cf070 | jnthn++ | src/core/IO.pm:
Re-instate getc.
kudo/nom: f346f0a | jnthn++ | t/spectest.data:
Run S16-io/getc.t.
kudo/nom: 7bc7c6e | jnthn++ | src/core/IO.pm:
Add back .z file test; filetest.t now seems close to working.
kudo/nom: 74c7491 | jnthn++ | t/spectest.data:
Run filetest.t.
jnthn Clearly the spam was trying to sll us scrum training. :)
*sell
lichtkind something like that :) 23:27
diakopter I will ScrumMaster your Requestor Sprint Backlog with Artifacts to Story 23:29
lichtkind diakopter: now i have a full row :) 23:30
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dalek ast: 62c60f6 | jnthn++ | S12-introspection/walk.t:
Bring walk.t in line with the spec.
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mberends perl6advent.wordpress.com/2011/12/0...on-niecza/ came out slightly early, please comment :-) 23:48
jnthn mberends++ # looks good 23:50
mberends thanks jnthn 23:51
diakopter +1
diakopter learns about the flip-flop operator for the first time 23:53
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dalek kudo/nom: 6a15ccd | jnthn++ | src/core/Mu.pm:
Implement Mu.WALK.
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kudo/nom: ded9695 | jnthn++ | t/spectest.data:
Turn on S12-introspection/walk.t.
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