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Set by sorear on 4 February 2011.
tadzik hello djanatyn 00:01
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djanatyn plays around with Bailador 00:04
mikemol dl.dropbox.com/u/9066248/p6epubs.tar , for those interested.
djanatyn Sorry I haven't been around a while. I've been really busy, writing perl5 and java
mikemol The script I wrote probably isn't great perl 5. I haven't actively written much perl in ages.
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Radvendii hey guys 00:05
mikemol Also, it depends on App-Pod2Epub.
Radvendii i have an idea for perl6, is there a better place to suggest it?
mikemol Radvendii: Not AFAIK.
Speak!
Radvendii afaik?
mikemol As Far As I Know 00:06
Radvendii oh
cool
anyways
why not represent strings as scalars and arrays, so you can do the stuff you want to with them as a scalar, but when it's convenient (like taking a slice) access them as arrays 00:07
one could also do @string[0].uc instead of $string.ucfirst
reduces the number of primitives you have to know
and, since strings are really just arrays of chars anyways, wouldn't this be relatively easy to implement? 00:08
mikemol Is there already a p6advent post on this subject? 00:09
Radvendii: I'm not particularly familiar with Perl 6 (yet), but someone around here will have an answer. 00:10
Radvendii okay... but they have to be on at the right time, is there a more permanent suggestion box?
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raiph rakudo: @a = <a b>; say "@a as Array: " ~ @a ~ " and as String: " ~ @a as String 00:26
p6eval rakudo 2bc97f: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Variable @a is not predeclared at line 1, near " = <a b>; "␤»
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raiph rakudo: my @a = <a b>; say "@a as Array: " ~ @a ~ " and as String: " ~ @a as String 00:26
p6eval rakudo 2bc97f: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Confused at line 1, near "say \"@a as"␤»
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raiph rakudo: my @a = $(@a); say @a; 01:22
p6eval rakudo 2bc97f: OUTPUT«maximum recursion depth exceeded␤ in method defined at src/gen/CORE.setting:549␤ in method Bool at src/gen/CORE.setting:545␤ in sub prefix:<!> at src/gen/CORE.setting:1938␤ in method reify at src/gen/CORE.setting:4257␤ in method gimme at src/gen/CORE.setting:4…
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dalek ecza: d9e5c69 | sorear++ | lib/UCD.cs:
Add ucd_get_value, inflate code for enumerated/catalog properties
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dalek ecza: 60d6d0d | sorear++ | lib/UCD.cs:
Add support for property aliases
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ecza: 808b2c1 | sorear++ | lib/Niecza/UCD.pm6:
Add Niecza::UCD minimalist access module
djanatyn How difficult would it be to add POST support to Bailador, and where would I start if I wanted to do it? 02:47
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dalek ecza: e4cb8d0 | sorear++ | lib/U (2 files):
Add support for property value aliases
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sorear djanatyn: 1. no clue 2. talking to tadzik 03:12
djanatyn looks like I would have to mess with HTTP::Server::Simple, maybe 03:21
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japhb phenny, ask jnthn Can you add 32-bit floats to your CArray short list? That would open up the chance for a fair portion of the OpenGL API. 04:28
phenny japhb: I'll pass that on when jnthn is around.
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moritz \o 06:48
phenny moritz: 18 Dec 21:27Z <lichtkind> tell moritz i will look tomorrow at the text again but i see it as finished
sorear o/ moritz 06:51
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moritz hi sorear. I'm very excited to see efforts on Unicode support in niecza 06:53
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moritz sorear: btw if you need somebody to discuss Unicode stuff, Helmut Wollmersdorfer 06:55
... might be interesting to talk to
he is deeply in the matter, and has written a few posts to p6l about that
he has been disappointed by the lack of feedback, but if you're actually doing stuff, he might be motivated again :-)
sorear hmm, I don't remember any of his posts... 06:56
moritz last one was 2011-06-03 in response to Tom Christiansen 06:57
sorear I'm not really sure what constitutes "Unicode stuff" - my problems are either technical writing problems (This standard annex is unclear!) or linguistic problems (ohai jnthn I hear ch is a letter in slovak does that mean "ch".chars==1?) 06:58
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sorear the former I try to send to the writers, the latter I look for good speakers 06:58
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sorear I don't see anything in www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6....11/06.html 07:00
TiMBuS i see jnthn is working on a bit of C/nci stuff atm. is there a todo list or something?
moritz sorear: well, I think he can help a bit with linguistic problems, but more importantly it's somebody who has many use cases, and can answer questions like "what kind of features do you want?" 07:01
TiMBuS someone wanted to know if perl6 worked with sqlite a few months back... can it now? 07:02
rakudo* not perl6
moritz TiMBuS: I don't think so; the NCI requirements might be met (no idea), but I don't think we have an sqlite driver yet
TiMBuS i more meant the NCI requirements.. 07:04
but i guess i could write the headers
:[ the least fun part of calling a C lib
sorear moritz: are you thinking of www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6....33686.html ? 07:05
moritz sorear: I didn't, but that's certainly one of his posts :-) 07:06
sorear so, do I just send him a pm, "Hi, Moritz Lenz suggested we get in touch since I'm actively doing Unicode stuff for a compiler" ? 07:07
moritz sorear: yes. 07:08
(mention that it's a Perl 6 compiler :-)
of course it also helps if you have specific topics to discuss 07:09
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sorear moritz: *shrug* I've been thinking in terms of S05 this week, not really Unicode as such 07:13
moritz: do you have a current email? 07:14
for em
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moritz sorear: just a sec... 07:50
sent via /msg 07:53
sorear thanks 07:55
mailed 07:59
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sorear *hahah* my first attempt at Name access is producing word salad 08:18
TiMBuS is there a way to breakpoint in gdb when entering a different shared lib 08:19
sorear that sounds difficult to do with gdb alone, but with ltrace it would be easier 08:21
TiMBuS bummer
sorear ltrace hacks the dynamic linker to replace all inter-dll calls with versions that also print name/args 08:22
so break the print rountine
TiMBuS does ltrace stop after a certain amount of tracing 08:25
dalek ecza: e09cd3f | sorear++ | lib/UCD.cs:
Support for inflating character name properties
 08:26
TiMBuS Parrot_api_run_bytecode(0x26256c8, 0x25d22b8, 0x2630188, 0x25d22b8, 1 <unfinished ...>
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
it should go further than that
sorear I guess you could break in the PLT entries, one at a time 08:27
(consult an ELF manual)
TiMBuS i miss ollydbg
:<
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jnthn mornin' 08:32
phenny jnthn: 18 Dec 23:23Z <lichtkind> tell jnthn no it doesnt work now: Cannot use bind operator with this LHS at line 44, near " |classify"
shachaf I was trying to figure out recently, after having a pretty miserable time with gdb, whether there exists a good instruction-level debugger for Linux.
phenny jnthn: 04:28Z <japhb> ask jnthn Can you add 32-bit floats to your CArray short list? That would open up the chance for a fair portion of the OpenGL API.
shachaf It seems that the answer is no. :-(
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jnthn phenny: tell japhb it's pretty much top of the list; I know exactly how to do it :) 08:33
phenny jnthn: I'll pass that on when japhb is around.
sorear gdb can be made significantly better with display/i *$eip and some other stunts
shachaf Is display different from print? 08:35
sorear yes
shachaf I was using p/100i *$eip or something along those lines.
Also disas, though it only seems to work when you have symbols.
sorear that command instructs gdb to print the current instruction after every stepi
shachaf Oh, right, *that* display. 08:36
That would've helped, yes. :-)
sorear I also wrote a hacked version of objcopy that injects symbols into a stripped binary
shachaf Hmm. 08:37
Should I ever have a need to use gdb for that again, I'll hopefully remember this. 08:38
TiMBuS well okay it seems dyncall is making it into sqlite.so with no issues. and then it bounces off a trampoline function for some reason. and then mov's 0 into [rsi] (which is also 0?) 08:41
bang
wtf
dalek kudo/nom: 7ed1840 | moritz++ | src/Perl6/Actions.pm:
throw X::NYI errors for several NYI features
sorear TiMBuS: calls across .so files go into trampolines. Reading ELF stuff may be useful 08:42
TiMBuS they usually do 08:43
im not too fussed about that
shachaf TiMBuS: rsi is probably the second argument to the function? 08:44
TiMBuS the second int 08:45
so its a pointer but its 0
this would have been easier if i had just installed sqlite-dbg. but there we go 08:46
jnthn, do opaquepointers work in nom?
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jnthn TiMBuS: Yeah, I tested those 08:50
sorear \o/ ß => ss
dalek ecza: 383966e | sorear++ | lib/ (3 files):
Add support for String properties
sorear -> sleep... guess I didn't get to <:Foo> today 08:51
dalek ecs: 12c8b58 | moritz++ | S32-setting-library/Exception.pod:
[S32::Exceptions] briefly describe the default exception printer
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TiMBuS oh christ im so damn retarded 09:08
so, how do you declare a pointer to a pointer in zavolaj 09:09
jnthn TiMBuS: What's the use case? OpaquePointer really doesn't care much what you have a pointer to - it's just...a pointer. :) 09:11
TiMBuS but a ptr to a ptr can be set
and since a normal opaqueptr = 0
doesnt work for the things that return object pointers 09:12
(such as sqlite3_open) 09:13
actually. pfftpfpf. opaquepointers shouldnt be 0 at all! why is it 0
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jnthn TiMBuS: I guess I'm gonna need some kinda Pointer[blah] type if we want to handle pointers to stuff in a generic fashion. 09:15
TiMBuS mayybe. but that's not the issue i think 09:16
heres the last call that the sqlite example does (according to gdb): openDatabase (zFilename=0x5e67b10 "test.db", ppDb=0x0, flags=6, zVfs=0x0)
ppDb=0x0? ¯\(ºдಠ)/¯ 09:18
i could deal if you just add a method to return the address of a CPointer.. and another method to set the contents of a CPointer 09:23
jnthn Both possible. 09:26
TiMBuS but i guess thats only a small skip away from just implementing dereferencing 09:28
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moritz phenny: tell [Coke] about perlgeek.de/blog-en/perl-6/grant-re...ors-4.html grant status update 09:37
phenny moritz: I'll pass that on when [Coke] is around.
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dalek kudo/nom: 1eadbbf | moritz++ | src/core/Exception.pm:
re-prioritize decisions in the default exception handler
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tadzik djanatyn: ping 10:06
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tadzik djanatyn: I thought about it a bit. Random thoughts: you need to split @routes between @get and @post for example, then before doing the actual dispatching check if $env<method> is GET or POST or what and then do the handler lookup 10:10
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moritz maybe make routes a hash with request method as key 10:31
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moritz and you can make get() and post() return their arguments 10:32
so that you can write get post '/' => sub { ... }
tadzik hmm, nice idea 10:33
maybe we could make it another task (possibly harder) and give it to djanatyn as well
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tadzik now brain seems awake. Good morning #perl6 :) 10:43
moritz good morning tadzik's brain :-) 10:45
tadzik who's for advent today? 10:47
moritz masak++
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tadzik oh cool 10:48
moritz aye
tadzik I can catch some of the remaining days
moritz that would be nice
lichtkind has written a post too, let's just schedule it for the 20th (aka tomorrow) 10:49
so that you have time to prepare a post for the 21st, if that works for you
dalek : fd36e37 | tadzik++ | misc/perl6advent-2011/schedule:
Claim 21st
 10:50
tadzik heh, I've just claimed 21st ;)
good sync
moritz will probably get a merge conflict :-) 10:51
tadzik :)
I like the github editor
dalek : 36b31d6 | moritz++ | misc/perl6advent-2011/schedule:
[advent] more scheduling
moritz now we have only two vacancies left
I might do one day together with masak 10:52
phenny: ask TimToady if he wants to the 24th post for the advent calendar
phenny moritz: I'll pass that on when TimToady is around.
moritz phenny: tell TimToady erm, missing verb. Insert 'write' where appropriate :-) 10:53
phenny moritz: I'll pass that on when TimToady is around.
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somep6user perl6: say "go go"; 11:16
p6eval pugs b927740, rakudo 1eadbb, niecza v12-72-g383966e: OUTPUT«go go␤»
somep6user niecza: say 2334r345345;
p6eval niecza v12-72-g383966e: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Whitespace is required between alphanumeric tokens at /tmp/flUmkHiCFu line 1:␤------> say 2334⏏r345345;␤␤Two terms in a row at /tmp/flUmkHiCFu line 1:␤------> say 2334⏏r345345;␤␤Parse fa…
somep6user niecza: say 2334345345 11:18
p6eval niecza v12-72-g383966e: OUTPUT«2334345345␤»
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somep6user perl6: my $a=5; my $b=6; [+] $a,$b,10; 11:46
p6eval pugs b927740, rakudo 1eadbb, niecza v12-72-g383966e: ( no output )
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somep6user perl6: my $a=5; my $b=6; say [+] $a,$b,10; 11:46
p6eval pugs b927740, rakudo 1eadbb, niecza v12-72-g383966e: OUTPUT«21␤»
somep6user perl6: @aaa=<1 2 3 4 5>; 11:49
p6eval pugs b927740: OUTPUT«*** ␤ Unexpected "=<"␤ expecting "::"␤ Variable "@aaa" requires predeclaration or explicit package name␤ at /tmp/0yECMCY_3a line 1, column 5␤»
..niecza v12-72-g383966e: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Variable @aaa is not predeclared at /tmp/_AjPx9EFgv line 1:␤------> <BOL>⏏@aaa=<1 2 3 4 5>;␤␤Unhandled exception: Check failed␤␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/boot/lib/CORE.setting line 880 (die @ 2) ␤ at /home…
..rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Variable @aaa is not predeclared at line 1, near "=<1 2 3 4 "␤»
somep6user perl6: my $a=5; my $b=6; [+] $a,$b,10; my @aaa = <1 2 3 4 5>; say @aaa >>++; 11:51
p6eval niecza v12-72-g383966e: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Postfix found where infix expected (change whitespace?) at /tmp/rXapij03b_ line 1:␤------> b,10; my @aaa = <1 2 3 4 5>; say @aaa >>⏏++;␤␤Parse failed␤␤»
..pugs b927740: OUTPUT«<Error><Error><Error><Error><Error>␤»
..rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Missing << or >> at line 1, near "+;"␤»
somep6user perl6: my @aaa = <1 2 3 4 5>; say @aaa >> ++; 11:52
p6eval pugs b927740: OUTPUT«*** ␤ Unexpected ">>"␤ expecting operator, ":" or ","␤ at /tmp/UEA3ij2r_n line 1, column 33␤»
..niecza v12-72-g383966e: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Unsupported use of >> to do right shift; in Perl 6 please use +> or ~> at /tmp/dnJubPmAjN line 1:␤------> my @aaa = <1 2 3 4 5>; say @aaa >>⏏ ++;␤␤Prefix requires an argument at /tmp/dnJubPmAjN line 1:␤---…
..rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Unsupported use of >> to do right shift; in Perl 6 please use +> or ~> at line 1, near "++;"␤»
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p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Confused at line 1, near "say @aaa\ufffd+"␤»
..niecza v12-72-g383966e: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Confused at /tmp/frtCn1U7Ld line 1:␤------> my @aaa = <1 2 3 4 5>; say @aaa⏏�++;␤␤Parse failed␤␤»
..pugs b927740: OUTPUT«decodeUTF8': bad data: '\65533'␤*** ␤ Unexpected "\65533++;"␤ expecting "::", term postfix, operator, ":" or ","␤ at /tmp/q6Gg24fzoe line 1, column 32␤»
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somep6user my @aaa = <1 2 3 4 5>; @aaa􏿽xBB++; say @aaa.perl; 12:02
perl6: my @aaa = <1 2 3 4 5>; @aaa􏿽xBB++; say @aaa.perl;
p6eval pugs b927740: OUTPUT«decodeUTF8': bad data: '\65533'␤*** ␤ Unexpected "\65533++;"␤ expecting "::", term postfix or operator␤ at /tmp/g2D4fbu5Ly line 1, column 28␤» 12:03
..niecza v12-72-g383966e: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Confused at /tmp/Iwe30hinPS line 1:␤------> my @aaa = <1 2 3 4 5>; @aaa⏏�++; say @aaa.perl;␤␤Parse failed␤␤»
..rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Confused at line 1, near "@aaa\ufffd++; s"␤»
lichtkind :)
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tadzik b: my @aaa = <1 2 3 4 5>; @aaa»++; say @aaa.perl; 12:03
p6eval b 1b7dd1: OUTPUT«["2", "3", "4", "5", "6"]␤»
somep6user perl6: my @aaa = <1 2 3 4 5>; say @aaa.perl; 12:08
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«Array.new("1", "2", "3", "4", "5")␤»
..pugs b927740: OUTPUT«["1", "2", "3", "4", "5"]␤»
..niecza v12-72-g383966e: OUTPUT«["1", "2", "3", "4", "5"].list␤»
tadzik I think it's just hyperops that are NYI in most implementations 12:09
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somep6user perl6: my @aaa = <1 2 3 4 5>; @aaa􏿽xBB ++; say @aaa.perl; 12:13
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Confused at line 1, near "@aaa\ufffd ++; "␤»
..niecza v12-72-g383966e: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Confused at /tmp/nVjwxLk2Br line 1:␤------> my @aaa = <1 2 3 4 5>; @aaa⏏� ++; say @aaa.perl;␤␤Parse failed␤␤»
..pugs b927740: OUTPUT«decodeUTF8': bad data: '\65533'␤*** ␤ Unexpected "\65533"␤ expecting "::", term postfix or operator␤ at /tmp/OrFxvZSuE3 line 1, column 28␤»
somep6user perl6: my @aaa = <1 2 3 4 5>; [*] @aaa; say @aaa.perl; 12:16
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«Array.new("1", "2", "3", "4", "5")␤» 12:17
..pugs b927740: OUTPUT«["1", "2", "3", "4", "5"]␤»
..niecza v12-72-g383966e: OUTPUT«["1", "2", "3", "4", "5"].list␤»
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lichtkind moritz: beside a small warning that last line is not yet full duported is there anything else to change ? 12:30
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moritz lichtkind: what are you talking about? and what is "duported"? 12:39
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lichtkind supported 12:39
my last code line, ah well i told phenny to paste this jnthn 12:40
i thought you for a minue
moritz last line of code in the advent post? or what? 12:41
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lichtkind yes the last code example, its modified from synopses but i yesterday night discovered unimplemented 12:47
moritz shouldn't that be written as
\(:@good, @bad) := classify(..)
?
erm no. :(:@good, @bad) := classify(..)
on the left side should be a signature, and right side a capture
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moritz perl6: enum A <b c d>; say b.Str 13:28
p6eval pugs b927740: OUTPUT«*** No such subroutine: "&enum"␤ at /tmp/fasDCDQYDV line 1, column 1-15␤»
..rakudo 1eadbb, niecza v12-72-g383966e: OUTPUT«b␤»
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moritz nom: say ([1, 1], { $_ >>+<< [1,1])[^2].perl 13:39
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Unable to parse blockoid, couldn't find final '}' at line 2␤»
moritz nom: say ([1, 1], { $_ >>+<< [1,1]} ... * )[^2].perl
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«(1, 1)␤»
moritz why doesn't that print out ([1, 1], [2, 2]) ?
bug?
nom: say [1, 1] >>+<< [1, 1] 13:40
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«2 2␤»
moritz that part seems to work fine
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colomon nom: say ([1, 1], { $_ >>+<< [1,1]} ... * )[^1].perl 14:03
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«(1,)␤»
jnthn nom: say ([1, 1], { $_ >>+<< [1,1]} ... * )[^4].perl 14:04
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«(1, 1, 2, 2)␤»
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jnthn Excessive flattening. 14:04
oh, it's probably the "take flattens" bug 14:05
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colomon nom: say ([1, 1], { $_ >>+<< [1,1]} ... * )[^10].perl 14:05
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«Sorry, lists on both sides of non-dwimmy hyperop are not of same length:␤ left: 1 elements, right: 2 elements␤␤ in sub hyper at src/gen/CORE.setting:8693␤ in block <anon> at /tmp/L9R2pprxKy:1␤ in sub coro at src/gen/CORE.setting:4499␤ in method reify at src/gen…
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[Coke] gist.github.com/1476841 no real change in spec tests in 3 days. 14:09
phenny [Coke]: 09:37Z <moritz> tell [Coke] about perlgeek.de/blog-en/perl-6/grant-re...ors-4.html grant status update
[Coke] moritz++ saw it, thanks!
felher moritz: i just saw that you added $@ and $% to the spec. Thnx :) 14:10
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[Coke] (not that I expect rakudo and niecza to pass more tests every day. ;) 14:12
literal w35 14:13
jnthn ...literally dozens of windows.
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moritz [Coke]: which reminds me, I wanted to write tests for the stubbing thing that jnthn++ implemented for the advent calendar... :-) 14:15
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[Coke] moritz++ 14:18
and jnthn++, wth.
colomon [Coke]: apologies for the lack of progress. Things have been very busy here. ;) 14:19
and my Advent post sucked up all my spare p6 time.
[Coke] colomon: another 729 tests to hit 60%, if rakudo stands still. 14:22
colomon how many to hit 66.6%? ;) 14:23
jnthn moritz: yes, tests for that would be great
[Coke] ~1944 14:24
jnthn nom: sub foo() is rw { my $x; return Proxy.new: FETCH => method () { $x }, STORE => method ($v) { $x = 2 * $v }; }; my $a := foo(); $a = 21; say $a 14:25
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«42␤»
jnthn Also I did a first cut implementation of Proxy yesterday. Don't know that's tested anywhere.
Spec'd in S06 iirc. 14:26
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moritz does 'my $x is Proxy' work? 14:27
jnthn not yet.
...what would that mean? :) 14:28
(you didn't give Proxy a STORE or FETCH...)
moritz jnthn: only makes sense for classes that wrap or inherit from Proxy
jnthn moritz: Yes
Anyway, NYI. 14:29
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jnthn I implemented Proxy 'cus I needed it for Zavolaj. 14:29
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dalek ast: 21e85ed | moritz++ | S14-roles/stubs.t:
initial tests for composing roles with stubbed methods
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moritz did I miss any important cases? 14:35
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lichtkind added pretty to index a 14:36
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lichtkind rakudo: my @d= 1..5; say @d.fmt( jojo %d %d); 14:42
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Variable %d is not predeclared at line 1, near " %d);"␤»
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lichtkind rakudo: my @d= 1..5; say @d 14:42
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«1 2 3 4 5␤»
lichtkind rakudo: my @d= 1..5; say @d.fmt( "jojo %d %d");
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«Null PMC access in get_integer()␤ in method fmt at src/gen/CORE.setting:1697␤ in method reify at src/gen/CORE.setting:4352␤ in method reify at src/gen/CORE.setting:4257␤ in method reify at src/gen/CORE.setting:4257␤ in method gimme at src/gen/CORE.setting:4621…
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lichtkind rakudo: my @d= 1..5; say @d.fmt( "%d", ','); 14:43
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«1,2,3,4,5␤»
lichtkind rakudo: my @d= 1..5; say @d.fmt( "%d-", ',');
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«1-,2-,3-,4-,5-␤»
lichtkind rakudo: my @d= 1..5; say @d.fmt( "%d-");
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«1- 2- 3- 4- 5-␤»
lichtkind rakudo: my @d= 1..5; say @d.fmt( "%d-%s"); 14:44
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«Null PMC access in get_string()␤ in method fmt at src/gen/CORE.setting:1697␤ in method reify at src/gen/CORE.setting:4352␤ in method reify at src/gen/CORE.setting:4257␤ in method reify at src/gen/CORE.setting:4257␤ in method gimme at src/gen/CORE.setting:4621␤…
lichtkind rakudo: my @d= 1..5; say @d.fmt( "-%s");
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«-1 -2 -3 -4 -5␤»
lichtkind got it :)
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jnthn npmca ist crap, though. 14:44
masak submits rakudobug 14:45
hello, #perl6 :)
jnthn masak. He submits bugs, THEN greets you.
masak submerges in $dayjob again, hoping to re-appear later in the week
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lichtkind rakudo: my @d= 1..6; say @d.fmt( "%d-%s"); 14:49
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«Null PMC access in get_string()␤ in method fmt at src/gen/CORE.setting:1697␤ in method reify at src/gen/CORE.setting:4352␤ in method reify at src/gen/CORE.setting:4257␤ in method reify at src/gen/CORE.setting:4257␤ in method gimme at src/gen/CORE.setting:4621␤…
masak rakudo: say sprintf("%d-%s", 42)
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«Null PMC access in get_string()␤ in sub sprintf at src/gen/CORE.setting:1841␤ in block <anon> at /tmp/l7bxDeoee7:1␤ in <anon> at /tmp/l7bxDeoee7:1␤»
masak sprintf is the real culprit.
jnthn ah 14:50
moritz thought so
jnthn moritz: The test didn't cover the inheritance case of having a method. 14:52
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moritz jnthn: right 14:52
lichtkind likes fmt
jnthn moritz: Other than that, it looks good. 14:53
moritz: I think there may be an RT for this too
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colomon niecza: say (a => 3) eqv (a => 3) 15:12
p6eval niecza v12-72-g383966e: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: Cannot use value like Pair as a number␤ at <unknown> line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 195 (Any.Numeric @ 4) ␤ at <unknown> line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting li…
flussence seeing that sprintf talk made me wonder... does zavolaj know how to do varargs stuff like that? 15:13
jnthn flussence: Not yet.
flussence: I in theory can support it, but it's probably not trivial. 15:14
oh, maybe it's not so horrific.
flussence hm, what about vsprintf? va_list is just a struct, afaik
jnthn I know dyncall supports it for cdecl.
lichtkind www.perlfoundation.org/perl6/index....tablet#fmt 15:17
new stuff
colomon nom: say (a => 3).invert 15:18
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«3 => "a"␤»
colomon should Enum have an invert method? 15:19
dalek ast: 9872f1f | (Solomon Foster)++ | S0 (2 files):
Fudge for niecza.
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colomon ugh, lots of failures in the niecza spectest. anyone know if they are expected? it's hard to see what they could have to do with my latest change... 15:32
dalek ecza: 1da092a | (Solomon Foster)++ | lib/CORE.setting:
Add kv sub, Pair.invert.
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ecza: 81237b2 | (Solomon Foster)++ | t/spectest.data:
Turn on pair.t.
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[Coke] colomon: gist.github.com/1476841 shows failures for some time now. 15:45
(since 12/14) 15:46
colomon huh. I'm not getting anything like 295 failures. More like 8.
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[Coke] that's using t/spec/test_summary, which is like, but entirely the same as, 'make spectest'. Also, we might have different platforms. 15:49
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dalek ast: 2fdbd0d | (Solomon Foster)++ | S05-metasyntax/litvar.t:
Fix fudging for niecza.
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ast: 6b769eb | (Solomon Foster)++ | S05-metasyntax/litvar.t:
Unfudge passing tests.
ast: cd2cf77 | (Solomon Foster)++ | S05-metasyntax/repeat.t:
Unfudge for niecza.
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ast: d72e0b4 | (Solomon Foster)++ | S05-metasyntax/sequential-alternation.t:
Refudge for niecza.
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colomon nom: "hello foo bar and baz".capitalize 16:24
p6eval nom 1eadbb: ( no output )
colomon nom: say "hello foo bar and baz".capitalize
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«Hello Foo Bar And Baz␤»
colomon nom: say "hello foo bar and baz".substr(6, 10).capitalize 16:26
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«Foo Bar An␤»
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colomon sorear: ping 16:38
say "hello".lc.subst(:g, /\w+/, { say "boo $0"; ucfirst $0; })
nom: say "hello".lc.subst(:g, /\w+/, { say "boo $0"; ucfirst $0; })
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«boo ␤␤»
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colomon nom: say "hello".subst(:g, /\w+/, { say "boo $0"; ucfirst $0; }) 16:51
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«boo ␤␤»
colomon niecza: say "hello".subst(:g, /\w+/, { say "boo $0"; ucfirst $0; }) 16:52
p6eval niecza v12-74-g81237b2: OUTPUT«Use of uninitialized value in string context␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 782 (warn @ 2) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 169 (Mu.Str @ 9) ␤ at <unknown> line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting …
colomon arrrgh, complete brainfail
niecza: "hello".capitalize
p6eval niecza v12-74-g81237b2: OUTPUT«Use of uninitialized value in string context␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 782 (warn @ 2) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 169 (Mu.Str @ 9) ␤ at <unknown> line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting …
colomon niecza: say "hello".capitalize
p6eval niecza v12-74-g81237b2: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Confused at /tmp/KQNNKRpM7B line 1:␤------> say "hello".capitaliz⏏e␤␤Parse failed␤␤»
colomon niecza: say "hello".capitalize()
p6eval niecza v12-74-g81237b2: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Confused at /tmp/uHNpdznJqT line 1:␤------> say "hello".capitaliz⏏e()␤␤Parse failed␤␤»
colomon std: say "hello".capitalize() 16:53
p6eval std dc62e1d: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Confused at /tmp/eCyhXCuI_A line 1:␤------> say "hello".capitaliz⏏e()␤ expecting any of:␤ POST␤ bracketed infix␤ infix or meta-infix␤ method arguments␤ postfix␤ postfix_prefix_meta_operator␤
..statement modifier loo…
colomon perl6: say "hello".capitalize
p6eval pugs b927740, rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«Hello␤»
..niecza v12-74-g81237b2: OUTPUT«Use of uninitialized value in string context␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 782 (warn @ 2) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 169 (Mu.Str @ 9) ␤ at <unknown> line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting …
colomon niecza: say "hello".subst(:g, /\w+/, { ucfirst $0 }) 16:54
p6eval niecza v12-74-g81237b2: OUTPUT«Use of uninitialized value in string context␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 782 (warn @ 2) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 169 (Mu.Str @ 9) ␤ at <unknown> line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting …
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sorear good * #perl6 17:20
colomon \o
you're just in time to stop me from going back to $work. ;)
if you've got a moment... 17:21
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sorear colomon: Hi I ave a moment. 17:23
colomon \o/
so capitalize is borked
sorear colomon: I just got rid of the /\w+/, { ucfirst $0 } "feature". Are you seriously telling me the spectests use it? :| 17:24
colomon and I've been tracking it down, and it appears to be because subst isn't setting $/ to the match value properly.
sorear: no, niecza's setting uses it
sorear ah
that's fixable.
colomon what bit of it did you get rid of?
sorear /\w+/ contains no capturing groups, so $0 should not have been defined 17:25
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sorear previously niecza had a hack where, with no capturing groups, $0 meant $/ 17:25
colomon .... interesting.
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colomon so should ucfirst $/ work, then? 17:26
sorear the original purpose of this hack was to make say "foo" ~~ /./ do something useful, before .gist was added
yes
colomon niecza: say "hello".subst(:g, /\w+/, { ucfirst $/ })
sorear I'm testing a fix now
p6eval niecza v12-74-g81237b2: OUTPUT«Hello␤»
colomon sorear++
sorear ...or you can test it! 17:27
colomon fix for capitalize, you mean?
I'd be happy to test it.
dalek ecza: 80c1f80 | sorear++ | lib/CORE.setting:
Fix bogus use of $0 in capitalize (colomon++)
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sorear no, you just did.
I didn't think to use p6eval ;)
colomon ah. :)
yup, that makes capitalize work much, much better. :) 17:29
I've been working on cleaning up the spectest so it tests clean, and that was a bit of a show-stopper. 17:30
t/spec/S05-grammar/action-stubs.t is crashing outright, I'm guessing that's got something to do with your current changes? 17:36
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sorear that's funny because action stubs were removed from the spec 1y+ ago 17:43
sorear tries it to see how (and more importantly, where) it crashes 17:44
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[Coke] perl6: say 1..3 minmax -6..-2 17:45
p6eval niecza v12-74-g81237b2: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: minmax NYI␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 889 (die @ 2) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 2049 (infix:<minmax> @ 2) ␤ at /tmp/rov5n_SH1i line 1 (mainline @ 3) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting li…
..pugs b927740: OUTPUT«*** No such subroutine: "&infix:minmax"␤ at /tmp/15AkplD8YP line 1, column 1 - line 2, column 1␤»
..rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«-6..3␤»
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sorear what? 17:47
it should not be hitting the MMD dispatcher for this ... 17:48
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[Coke] perl6:say +(5..5) 17:51
perl6: say +(5..5)
p6eval niecza v12-74-g81237b2: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: Cannot use value like Range as a number␤ at <unknown> line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 195 (Any.Numeric @ 4) ␤ at <unknown> line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0) ␤ at /tmp/Zmj5aYUqkh line 1 (mainline @ 1) …
..pugs b927740, rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«1␤»
[Coke] so, why would that be 1 ? 17:52
niecza sounds saner here.
sorear hahahaha. 17:53
[Coke] nom: say +(1..10)
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«10␤»
sorear niecza: sub foo { '{*}' }; say foo()
p6eval niecza v12-74-g81237b2: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object␤ at Niecza.Kernel.TypeDispatcher (Niecza.Frame th, Boolean tailcall) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ␤ at Niecza.Kernel.StandardTypeProtoC (Niecza.…
[Coke] ah, it's the # of elements?
sorear [Coke]: seems likely
[Coke]: like +@(self)
[Coke] That's almost sane.
If you agree, it'll get you 4 more spec tests. ;) 17:54
sorear I agree
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sorear niecza: say ('abc{*}' ~~ m:pos(0) / '{*}' /); say ('{*}' ~~ m:pos(0) / '{*}' /); 17:55
p6eval niecza v12-74-g81237b2: OUTPUT«Bool::False␤#<match from(0) to(3) text({*}) pos([].list) named({}.hash)>␤»
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[Coke] will try to patch that. 17:56
dalek ecza: 25c05b3 | sorear++ | src/niecza:
sub foo {*} and sub foo { '{*}' } are not the same, *sigh*
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sorear colomon: t/spec/S05-grammar/action-stubs.t passes again
except for the bit where subst changes $/ 17:59
which is something I have mixed feelings on 18:00
look at, say, t/spec/fudge lines 115-117
subst changing $/ is useful in practice!
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dalek ast: 84d0e6f | (Solomon Foster)++ | S05-capture/match-object.t:
Refudge for niecza.
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dalek ecza: ea02434 | coke++ | lib/CORE.setting:
Make Range in numeric context return # of elements.
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ast: 27d0c93 | coke++ | S0 (2 files):
niecza unfudge
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colomon [Coke]++ 18:27
dalek ast: 3564b2f | coke++ | S03-metaops/reduce.t:
niecza unfudge
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[Coke] ah, missed one.
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tadzik 'evening 18:54
colomon 'afternoon
sorear hello. 18:55
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lichtkind cheers o/ 19:11
rakudo doenst know lol or is it gone?
colomon LoL is not gone 19:12
lichtkind yes but the operator is callen lol not?
colomon I have no idea 19:13
lichtkind didnt worked in rakudo
tadzik never heard of a lol operator 19:14
lichtkind s03 has heard and so did I 19:15
i wrote it into the tablets 2 years ago
buhuhu nobody is following my work
but curiosly S02 write it LoL and S03 lol 19:16
LoL seames to be a built in type 19:17
and lol the op
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[Coke] looks like no lol spec tests. 19:25
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[Coke] nom: say ~(1..2) 19:30
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«1 2␤»
[Coke] nom: say ~('a'..'b')
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«a b␤»
[Coke] nom: say (1..2) 19:31
p6eval nom 1eadbb: OUTPUT«1..2␤»
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masak oh hai, #perl6! 19:55
flussence yayitsmasak! 19:57
colomon \o
masak \o/
sorear Hello masak \o/ \o/ \o/
masak I've missed you people
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sorear masak: I'm past finals and I have plenty of time now 19:59
masak the dire lack of #perl6 was only partly made up for by wonderful weather, awesome food, and daily massages for two weeks :)
sorear: nice to hear. I'm past the hump of work for this year, and have some moderate amounts of time. 20:00
tadzik lol! Masak!
masak I'm happy to report that a p6cc will happen this year. we don't know exactly when yet, but stay tuned.
lol! tadzik! \o/
tadzik \o/
sorear p6cc?
tadzik coding contest!
masak ayup
some excellent problems lined up for you this year. :) 20:01
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sorear masak: by "this year", do you mean "the next 12 days" or "the next 12-377 days" ? 20:01
masak well, the announcement will hopefully be in the former, but it'll stretch on during the early parts of the latter. 20:02
er, "it" being the contest.
not the announcement. :)
tadzik hell with the contest. How was the vacation? 20:03
masak warm. sunny. relaxing.
jnthn evenin'
masak Hong Kong woulda beat Singapore in awesomeness, if it weren't for the smog.
Ko Lanta was endearing. 20:04
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masak my travel companions and good friends are dears, too. 20:04
lol, jnthn!
jnthn omgz, masak! 20:05
:)
masak I am really tired. my, um, plan is to blog for p6adv and then go to bed, like, a lot.
most of my body actually believes it's 3 am in Hong Kong right now. 20:07
which it is -- argh, you know what I mean. :)
jnthn masak: going to be once should be sufficient. Getting up to go to bed multiple times won't help. :)
masak hopes the blog post will turn out better than his confused ramblings on channel
jnthn Just do a post on how to write a bf compiler :) 20:08
masak .oO( just write a gf compiler and change some stuff )
no, I know what to write about. 20:09
tadzik . o O ( just write gf a compiler )
sorear ...a gf compiler?
tadzik heh, that reminds me
jnthn . o O ( just gf )
tadzik "what is gonna be your present for me?" "suprise. I'll make it myself" "...you'll write me a program?"
true_story.png 20:10
sorear probably not talking about GF(2**8)
masak sorear++ :)
sorear: I'm all for diversifying portfolios, but wow that's a lot of GF...
sorear Galois fields 20:11
masak knows
jnthn didn't :)
masak the Galois fields are a nice spot to have a little picnic with one's gf...
tadzik Loooow lieeeee, the fieeelds of Galoiiiiiis 20:12
colomon I thought they were still a bit bloody... 20:13
masak only with martyrs.
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dalek ecza: d9cc964 | sorear++ | lib/UCD.cs:
Implement procedural na and dm mappings for CJK and Hangul
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[Coke] wonders how pairs should sort. 20:45
perl5: my %hash = (1=>2,3=>4,5=>6); say %hash.pairs.sort()
perl6: my %hash = (1=>2,3=>4,5=>6); say %hash.pairs.sort() #whoops
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«"1" => 2 "3" => 4 "5" => 6␤»
..pugs b927740: OUTPUT«1 23 45 6␤»
..niecza v12-77-gea02434: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: System.InvalidOperationException: Comparison threw an exception. ---> Cannot use value like Pair as a number␤ at <unknown> line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 195 (Any.Numeric @ 4) ␤ at <unknown> …
jnthn Hangul! \o/
masak 한글! 20:52
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sorear jnthn: mmm? 20:54
jnthn sorear: I just think Hangul is awesome. ;)
sorear oh yes. yes it is. 20:55
jnthn I learned how to read it once (the sounds, not many of the meanings). It's rusted now though. :(
jnthn should visit Korea again :) 20:56
The people and food are also awesome. :)
sorear perl6: say "\c[HANGUL SYLLABLE HAN]"
p6eval niecza v12-77-gea02434: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Action method charname not yet implemented at /tmp/FIPmcwKra2 line 1:␤------> say "\c[HANGUL SYLLABLE HAN⏏]"␤␤Action method charnames not yet implemented at /tmp/FIPmcwKra2 line 1:␤------> say "\c[HAN…
..rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«한␤»
..pugs b927740: OUTPUT«Unknown charname 'HANGUL SYLLABLE HAN' at /usr/share/perl/5.10/unicore/Name.pl line 1␤�␤»
[Coke] jnthn: you hear the korea news, I presume?
sorear perl6: say "\c[FULL STOP]" 20:57
p6eval niecza v12-77-gea02434: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Action method charname not yet implemented at /tmp/G3AB36G_ye line 1:␤------> say "\c[FULL STOP⏏]"␤␤Action method charnames not yet implemented at /tmp/G3AB36G_ye line 1:␤------> say "\c[FULL STOP[33…
..pugs b927740, rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«.␤»
sorear rakudo, really?
I'm suprised Rakudo can do this
jnthn [Coke]: Yes, read it first thing this morning. 20:58
sorear: Sometimes Rakudo does stuff. ;-)
sorear: It only works if on a Parrot built with ICU, iirc.
sorear ooc, where is that implemented?
jnthn sorear: Good question. I *think* there's a dynop. 20:59
That calls into ICU.
sorear jnthn: looks like charname in src/HLL/Actions.pm 21:02
jnthn oh. :)
sorear -> pir::find_codepoint__Is( ~$/ )
jnthn ah, oK.
Then a Parrot core op that delegates to ICU :)
github.com/sorear/niecza/commit/d9cc964b1c
sorear I figured there was a dynop but I was more interested in where on the Rakudo side
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Radvendii hey guys 21:02
sorear jnthn: What about that commit?
o/ Radvendii 21:03
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jnthn sorear: ooops :) 21:03
sorear: Accidental paste :) 21:04
.oO( at least there wasn't anything else on the clipboard :) )
sorear rakudo: say ord "\c[LINEAR B SYLLABLE B008 A]"
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«65536␤»
sorear rakudo: say "\c[LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH MACRON AND GRAVE]" 21:06
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Unrecognized character name LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH MACRON AND GRAVE at line 1, near "]\""␤»
sorear rakudo: say "\c[TAMIL CONSONANT NN]"
p6eval rakudo 1eadbb: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Unrecognized character name TAMIL CONSONANT NN at line 1, near "]\""␤»
jnthn .u LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH MACRON AND GRAVE 21:10
phenny jnthn: Sorry, no results for 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH MACRON AND GRAVE'.
jnthn .u TAMIL CONSONANT NN
phenny jnthn: Sorry, no results for 'TAMIL CONSONANT NN'.
jnthn Hm. :)
.u LINEAR B SYLLABLE B008 A
phenny jnthn: Sorry, no results for 'LINEAR B SYLLABLE B008 A'.
jnthn oh :)
sorear One of those is the name of a supplementary character, the other two are from NamedSequences.txt 21:11
jnthn sh, k 21:12
*ah
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masak blog post! \o/ perl6advent.wordpress.com/2011/12/1...-its-good/ 21:30
colomon jnthn: is the "$got.defined" line in Test.pm's sub is there to prevent "uninitialized variable" warnings? 21:32
jnthn colomon: Imagine so. 21:33
colomon: oh
colomon: more likely to do with Failure actually
masak aye.
jnthn masak: yay!
masak the comment even says so.
i.e. making sure the Failures don't trigger and throw an exception. 21:34
colomon how exactly does it do that?
colomon is trying to figure out how to deal with tons of uninitialized variable warnings in Niecza test runs.
sorear fix the tests that do "x" ~ Any without a good reason? 21:37
masak colomon: calling .defined disarms the Failure. 21:38
colomon sorear: the tests I'm looking at are the other way around. we're getting Any when we should be getting a more useful object. 21:41
sorear colomon: and the tests don't fail?
colomon sorear: they fail, they just fail with a lot of useless stack trace noise 21:42
sorear Perhaps use Test ought to suppress warnings entirely 21:43
masak huh? sounds like a bad idea.
colomon gist.github.com/1499027 for instance
masak ok, going to bed at least a hundred times now. 'night. 21:44
sorear colomon: probably a good idea to put // '' into Test.pm6 then
in &is
colomon right, but then that breaks if someone does do is $x, Any 21:46
sorear no
that never worked
niecza: use Test; is "", Any, "moo";
p6eval niecza v12-78-gd9cc964: OUTPUT«Use of uninitialized value in string context␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 782 (warn @ 2) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 169 (Mu.Str @ 9) ␤ at <unknown> line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/Test.pm6 line…
sorear niecza: use Test; is "", Any, "moo"; CONTROL { return } 21:47
p6eval niecza v12-78-gd9cc964: OUTPUT«ok 1 - moo␤»
colomon let me try it and see what happens to the spectest run.... er?
sorear is that what you mean?
diakopter phenny: tell moritz typo in your last spec commit 21:48
phenny diakopter: I'll pass that on when moritz is around.
sorear colomon: pastie.org/3042880 21:49
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lue Is it OK for me to install my own recent version of rakudo on feather? (I would assume yes, but the server's welcome message has me overly-worried) 21:52
sorear lue: it is OK for you to do a systemwide install of the latest Rakudo 21:56
lue: the original idea for feather was that all of the users would share admin rights, but what's actually happened is that everybody neglects it
tragedy of the commons
lue Oh, I thought I would just keep a most-recent version in my own home folder. 21:57
sorear seems wasteful
colomon sorear: sorry to disappear on you, co-opted to cooking noms for my family. will return post-nom 22:01
lue So I'm guessing it would be alright for me to compile Rakudo nom and then install it to /usr/local ? 22:03
sorear yes 22:06
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lue Hm. Did anyone else get the "perl6.org is ugly" email? 'Cos it doesn't look like it went through any mailing list. 22:24
sorear lue: it came to you because you're a member of the perl6 organization on github 22:25
lue ah, [That would explain the "github" bit in the From header] duh to myself.
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[Coke] ruvs whitespacebot! 22:38
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sjn waits for someone to write an indentbot 22:44
lue apparently can't write to /usr/local . Oh well. 22:51
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colomon sorear: your patch (slightly tweaked) works fine. I'm still seeing similar messages fly by during the spectest, so there must be similar problems lurking in Test.pm6 23:08
dalek ecza: d18c193 | (Solomon Foster)++ | lib/Test.pm6:
Avoid warnings in "is".
 23:09
colomon Ack, should have said "sorear++" in the message.
sorear++ again, just for good measure 23:11
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dalek ast: ab7accd | (Solomon Foster)++ | S03-operators/assign.t:
Fudge for niecza.
 23:37
ecza: 8c6d50c | (Solomon Foster)++ | t/spectest.data:
Turn on S03-operators/assign.t.
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