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Set by sorear on 4 February 2011.
diakopter byr freather 01:21
supernovus So, for building Rakudo Star (the distribution), do they fork the libraries that are included, or just use the newest versions as of when the distribution is put together? 02:02
seen masak 02:04
aloha masak was last seen in #perl6 39 mins 58 seconds ago joining the channel.
supernovus I wonder if they'll ever make it so that you don't have to recompile all your pre-compiled Perl 6 modules every time you recompile Rakudo. Sigh. 02:11
supernovus No such method 'get_string' for invocant of type 'str' 02:19
skids supernovus: likely that is a problem with a failure being returned from a compiled module. That regressed in star09 IIRC. 02:37
oh he quit. 02:38
Woodi morning everyone :) 07:02
sorear o/ Woodi 07:03
Woodi what you think about putting Object-relational Mapper project into Google Code ? 07:03
Woodi actually I had in mind a) do research on existing implementations word-wide and possible approuches b) find possible ways of OR-mapping in Perl6 c) implement something 07:39
diakopter TRIUMPH
Woodi but looks a) and b) alone qualifies for GCI
sorear yay, vote counting is ~over, now I can be productive again 07:40
diakopter :P
Woodi I hear taxes will incrase :) 07:41
sorear taxes always increase, no matter what they promise 07:42
naught is sure in life but for death and taxes
moritz Woodi: I've toyed a bit with a micro-ORM, and frequently ran into DBIish segfaults 07:46
Woodi ok
moritz Woodi: so an ORM project can only work for somebody who is willing and able to debug and fix those
Woodi then "resolve DBIsh segfaults" !
not many projects so far on perlfaundation page... 07:47
why ppls no brainstorm in such cases is beyound my imagination :)
sorear why brainstorm more projects? we're already overworked 07:48
Woodi sorear: but GCI is for ppls from outside ? 07:48
Woodi it is attracting ppls in small steps. many ppls. and maybe few of them will be able to contribute some wizardy later too :) 07:50
moritz k 08:27
ww
kresike hello all you happy perl6 people 09:09
masak good antenoon, #perl6 10:23
brrt hi masak 10:25
moritz \o
jnthn morning, #perl6 10:31
brrt hi jnthn 10:32
jnthn r: my %h; %h<a>:exists 10:35
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: ( no output )
moritz \o
jnthn This now parses/passes along the adverb. :)
moritz o/
does it do something already?
brrt oh, that is nice
general adverb parsing, or just for :exists?
jnthn So if anybody has tuits to work on implementing the actual logic in the postcircumfix methods... :) 10:36
brrt: General adverb parsing.
tadzik r: my %h; %h<a>:delete; %h.perl.say
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«().hash␤»
tadzik ossum
brrt yay
jnthn r: sub infix:<with>($a, $b, :$joiner) { $a ~ $joiner ~ $b }; say 'fish' with 'chips' :joiner(' and ') 10:38
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«fish and chips␤»
brrt jnthn++, that is really cool 10:39
masak jnthn++ # wow! 10:40
jnthn Finally figured out how the hell STD did it :) 10:40
masak :P
brrt is updating rakudo as we speak 10:41
so the next release is going to have macros and adverbs
that is really really cool
masak .oO( adverbs on macros o.O )
brrt oh behave 10:42
masak :)
moritz and heredocs, and quote adverbs 10:43
masak r: multi infix:<+>($l, $r, :$awesome!) { "AWESOME <guitar solo>" }; say 40 + 2 :awesome
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«Unexpected named parameter 'awesome' passed␤ in sub infix:<+> at src/gen/CORE.setting:2945␤ in block at /tmp/g0Saze_0v7:1␤␤»
masak jnthn: Y NO WORKS? :(
jnthn Um. 10:45
'cus named parameters don't participate in multi-dispatch, I guess. 10:46
But still, it should consider your candidate tighter...
moritz r: multi infix:<+>($l, $r, :$awesome!) { "AWESOME <guitar solo>" }; say Any + Any :awesome
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«AWESOME <guitar solo>␤»
jnthn oh!! 10:47
Yeah, of course
moritz does seem to be a dispatch problem, not an adverb problem
jnthn Not even a problem
A specific (Int, Int) is going to be tighter and an (Any, Any) even if the (Any, Any) is in an outer scope.
*than an
*inner
:)
masak oh! 10:48
r: multi infix:<+>(Int, Int, :$awesome!) { "AWESOME <guitar solo>" }; say 40 + 2 :awesome
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«AWESOME <guitar solo>␤»
masak \o/ 10:50
jnthn Don't forget this is the first release with operator precedence traits and shell words too :) 11:06
jnthn r: my $i = 0; while $i < 10 { FIRST { say 'post' }; LAST { say 'wish' }; NEXT { say "and" }; say $i++ }; 11:09
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«post␤0␤and␤1␤and␤2␤and␤3␤and␤4␤and␤5␤and␤6␤and␤7␤and␤8␤and␤9␤and␤wish␤»
jnthn Also, did that last night (before they only worked in for loops) :) 11:09
jnthn meeting & 11:31
masak jnthn++ # FIRST NEXT LAST in for loops 11:45
er, while loops* 11:46
r: my $count = 10; loop { say $count--; last unless $count; LAST { say "liftoff!" } }
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«10␤9␤8␤7␤6␤5␤4␤3␤2␤1␤liftoff!␤»
masak cool. 11:47
masak r: my $count = 10; loop { say $count--; last unless $count; LAST { say "$count -- liftoff!" } } 11:59
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«10␤9␤8␤7␤6␤5␤4␤3␤2␤1␤0 -- liftoff!␤»
azawawi hi #perl6 13:48
Ulti hi azawawi people were around not long ago ;) 14:09
azawawi i noticed 14:10
azawawi it is like coming and say hi to an empty room ... :) 14:11
azawawi hears the echo
masak I guess people are busy. 14:12
I know I am :)
moritz is, too 14:15
azawawi masak: i will level up alone... not a big deal :) 14:17
solo 14:19
azawawi home & 14:29
azawawi %*ENV{'home'} # :) &
moritz %*ENV<home> 14:30
PerlJam greetings perlings! 14:42
tadzik hello jammings
PerlJam [Coke]: I hope you're happy now! :) 14:46
flussence rn: my @a = gather for ^5 { FIRST { next }; take $_ }; say @a 14:48
p6eval niecza v22-19-gd874a8e: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Action method statement_prefix:FIRST not yet implemented at /tmp/a4nndJ9_Wn line 1:␤------> my @a = gather for ^5 { FIRST { next }⏏; take $_ }; say @a␤␤Unhandled exception: Unable to resolve method stateme… 14:49
..rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«0 1 2 3 4␤»
flussence shouldn't rakudo say «1 2 3 4» there?
PerlJam aye, looks like a bug 14:52
moritz I guess FIRST is called before the loop is entered 14:56
r: for ^5 { my $x = $_ ** 2; FIRST { say $x } };
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«Any()␤»
moritz yes, looks like
[Coke] PerlJam: yay, it's over. Now maybe we can do things! 14:57
PerlJam oh, maybe it isn't a bug. "FIRST {...}* at loop initialization time, before any ENTER" and "ENTER {...}* at every block entry time, repeats on loop blocks." So FIRST happens before block entry, which is consistent with what happens. 15:00
moritz so not as awesome as one might want to wish for :( 15:02
PerlJam r: my @a = gather for ^5 { START { next }; take $_ }; say @a 15:03
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«1 2 3 4␤»
moritz PerlJam: remember that phasers don't need a block
r: my @a = gather for ^5 { START next; take $_ }; say @a
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«1 2 3 4␤»
PerlJam START and FIRST seem backwards to me. Or at least START seems like it should be called FIRST. 15:06
moritz
.oO( at FIRST it STARTled me too )
 15:08
PerlJam r: for ^3 { my $x = FIRST time; say $x } # I'm not sure about this one. 15:16
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«Nil␤Nil␤Nil␤»
jnthn back 15:22
[Coke] r: my $x = cat FIRST sink time; 15:36
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤CHECK FAILED:␤Undefined routine '&cat' called (line 1)␤»
jnthn No cat in Rakudo yet :) 15:37
And FIRST outside of a loop don't mean much...
arnsholt What's cat for, btw? 15:38
moritz for creating a stringish stream
jnthn loling at
:)
Yeah, not quite sure how to implement it.
moritz neither 15:39
jnthn Well, we're looking good on features for the Nov release. :) 15:40
I think we can have :delete and :exists working well in time for it.
perigrin sub cat { map { Str.coerce($_) } @_ } # excuse the moose-isims
jnthn perigrin: It needs to have lazy semantics and behave more like a string if it's, say, matched against, not like a list of strings. 15:41
The map gets the laziness but not the "act like a string"
moritz perigrin: the problem isn't constructing the objects; it's making everything else that works with string work with Cats too
jnthn Right
Especially things like the regex engine. 15:42
perigrin moritz: implement a herd operator ... once you can herd Cats you can do anything in programming.
jnthn *groan* :)
PerlJam as long as it's not "hurd" 15:43
perigrin PerlJam: depends on how gnu your hurd is ...
flussence r: gist.github.com/4032415 15:55
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9␤»
flussence \o/
[Coke] r: say "mmm {('A'..'a')[11054]}" 16:04
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«(timeout)»
[Coke] awww.
[Coke] r: say "mmm {('A'..'a')[454]}" 16:07
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«mmm QM␤»
[Coke] r: say "mmm {('A'..'a')[424]}" #whoops
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«mmm PI␤»
masak [Coke]: "mmm QM" makes a lot of sense too, if you're into quantum computing. 16:39
er. quantum mechanics.
kresike bye folks 16:42
masak fare thyself well, kresike. 16:43
skids r: role A [$x] { method d { "OHA1".say } }; role B { method d { "OHB1".say } }; role C does A[1] does B { method d { self.A[1]::d() } }; class D does C { }; my D $c .=new(); $c.d; # is there a syntax for explicitly using a parametric role's method? 17:06
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Unable to parse expression in block; couldn't find final '}' at line 2, near "self.A[1]:"␤»
jnthn skids: Not as far as I know 17:08
masak would like something like msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/yh598w02.aspx as a Perl 6 module, for automatically closing file handles 17:33
jnthn I've been suggesting something like that for a while ;) 17:42
Making the limits of resource holding explicit. 17:43
GlitchMr .u В 17:53
phenny U+0412 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER VE (В)
flussence wants something like masak's asking for too. Not real destructors per se, just something like LEAVE but as an object method... 18:03
arnsholt Yeah, deconstructors would be good 18:05
flussence (PHP has real destructors but I've found them somewhat less than useful for real-world code...) 18:06
sorear o/ 18:41
fglock o/ 18:43
masak r: role Disposing { method dispose { say self ~ " disposed" } }; macro RAII($res, $code) { quasi { {{{$code}}}(); LEAVE { {{{$res}}}.dispose } } }; my $res = (class C does Disposable {}).new; RAII $res, { say "processing..." } 19:22
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Unable to parse $*PKGDECL definition at line 2, near "does Dispo"␤»
masak r: role Disposing { method dispose { say self ~ " disposed" } }; macro RAII($res, $code) { quasi { {{{$code}}}(); LEAVE { {{{$res}}}.dispose } } }; class C does Disposable {}; my $res = C.new; RAII $res, { say "processing..." }
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Unable to parse $*PKGDECL definition at line 2, near "does Dispo"␤»
masak oh.
r: role Disposing { method dispose { say self ~ " disposed" } }; macro RAII($res, $code) { quasi { {{{$code}}}(); LEAVE { {{{$res}}}.dispose } } }; class C does Disposing {}; my $res = C.new; RAII $res, { say "processing..." } 19:23
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Error while compiling block : Error while compiling block RAII: Error while compiling block : Error while compiling block : Error while compiling op p6type: Error while compiling op callmethod: Unknown QAST node type QAST::Unquote␤at /tmp/I4MtNVgKXY:1␤…
masak submits rakudobug
jnthn Don't you have enough copies of "nested blocks don't work"? :)
masak maybe. 19:24
jnthn ;) 19:25
masak (but whyyyy)
jnthn Because they're declarations, and the delayed decl stuff ain't done yet, I guess...
Though that seems unrelated to failing to find the unquite.
*unquote
masak aye.
jnthn I assume it's not soemthing simple like not processing the [0] node of the quasi block properly? 19:26
masak o.O
of course not. who would commit such a trivial mistake? 19:27
jnthn (every block has two kids, one with decls, one with statements...)
masak hides between two lines of source code
jnthn my $past := $<block>.ast<past_block>.pop; 19:27
nqp::bindattr($quasi_ast, $ast_class, '$!past', $past);
:P
PerlJam masak: you must be thin to fit in such a tight space. 19:28
masak jnthn: yes, that seems wrong in the light of what you just said.
PerlJam: it's all a question of eating fewer carbs and setting the font size high enough. 19:29
jnthn
.oO( unlikely sentence was unlikely... )
 19:30
dalek kudo/nom: 692a610 | jnthn++ | src/core/Any.pm:
Implement :exists and :delete for associative.
 20:08
kudo/nom: f81716a | jnthn++ | t/spectest.data:
Run S32-hash/delete_adverb.t.
ast: 9e30ec8 | jnthn++ | S (5 files):
Rakudo unfudges.
 20:09
jnthn %h<a>:delete # can haz :) 20:10
skids jnthn++ 20:16
brrt has anyone implemented dynamically scoped subroutines? 20:17
and if so, why, and how
cognominal_ brrt: there are anonymous routines and dynamically scoped variables, and variable can have an & sigil. That gives all waht you want. 20:20
diakopter can also use $ sigil 20:21
brrt fair enough
nr: my sub &*foo ($x) { ... }; 20:22
p6eval niecza v22-19-gd874a8e: OUTPUT«Potential difficulties:␤ $x is declared but not used at /tmp/Smphzehzwu line 1:␤------> my sub &*foo (⏏$x) { ... };␤ &foo is declared but not used at /tmp/Smphzehzwu line 1:␤------> my sub &*foo ⏏($x) { ... };␤␤»…
..rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Missing block␤at /tmp/lOHmhu0v68:1␤»
cognominal_ or should that be variable with variable with dynamic extent? scope and extent are two different thing even if I don't remember being used in the synopses.
brrt nr: my sub &*foo ($x) { say $x + 1; }; &*foo(32);
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Missing block␤at /tmp/srzaMNiVMj:1␤»
..niecza v22-19-gd874a8e: OUTPUT«Potential difficulties:␤ &foo is declared but not used at /tmp/aOVZz0CwcJ line 1:␤------> my sub &*foo ⏏($x) { say $x + 1; }; &*foo(32);␤␤Unhandled exception: Unable to resolve method postcircumfix:<( )> in type Any␤ at /tmp/aOVZz0CwcJ…
cognominal_ * don't remember the "extent" word being used 20:23
brrt fails to make & a sigil in rakudo 20:24
masak nr: my &*foo = sub ($x) { say $x + 1 }; &*foo(32)
brrt nr: my &foo = sub ($x) { say $x * 2; }; &foo(34); 20:25
p6eval rakudo 5dd878, niecza v22-19-gd874a8e: OUTPUT«33␤»
rakudo 5dd878, niecza v22-19-gd874a8e: OUTPUT«68␤»
masak brrt: this is essentially what cognominal told you at 21:20.
brrt yes, i see, i just failed to do it at my laptop
sorry for being annoying about some things :-) 20:26
masak no problem. 20:27
S06 says you should bea ble to do it your way, too.
but it doesn't work yet.
also, 'sub foo($x) is dynamic' is s'posed to work and result in the same thing. 20:29
(S06 does 'my sub', but I think that may be a holdover from when subroutines weren't 'my'-scoped by default)
brrt as a related question, what happens when i define an our variable in a routine? 20:31
nr: sub foo { our $bar = 4; }; foo; print $bar;
p6eval niecza v22-19-gd874a8e: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Variable $bar is not predeclared at /tmp/EoAPX5SN7I line 1:␤------> sub foo { our $bar = 4; }; foo; print ⏏$bar;␤␤Unhandled exception: Check failed␤␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/boot/lib/CORE.setting line 1437…
..rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Variable $bar is not declared␤at /tmp/EHfUhsLwFD:1␤»
masak it goes out of scope at the end of the routine.
brrt a routine is a package? 20:32
masak it is not.
masak and that's not the right conclusion to draw from the result of the evaluation, and from what I said ;) 20:32
try again. 20:33
brrt nr: sub foo { our $bar = 3; }; foo(); say ::<bar>; 20:34
p6eval niecza v22-19-gd874a8e: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object␤ at Niecza.StashCursor.Core (System.String key, Boolean final, Niecza.StashCursor& sc, Niecza.Variable& v, Niecza.Variable bind_to) [0x00000] in <file…
..rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«Any()␤»
[Coke] did anyone answer the recent stackoverflow question about perl6 ?
brrt [Coke] link please :-)
masak nr: sub foo { our $bar = 3 }; foo; say our $bar 20:35
p6eval niecza v22-19-gd874a8e: OUTPUT«3␤»
..rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«Any()␤»
[Coke] brrt: if I had that, I'd know if it was answered.... and it was.
masak submits rakudobug
[Coke] stackoverflow.com/questions/1326267...-in-perl-6
masak nqp: sub foo { our $bar := 3 }; foo(); our $bar; say($bar)
p6eval nqp: OUTPUT«Routine declaration requires a signature at line 2, near "{ our $bar"␤current instr.: 'panic' pc 13089 (src/stage2/gen/NQPHLL.pir:4619) (src/stage2/gen/NQPHLL.pm:324)␤»
masak nqp: sub foo() { our $bar := 3 }; foo(); our $bar; say($bar)
p6eval nqp: OUTPUT«3␤»
brrt pretty nice p6 is on stackoverflow now 20:36
masak oh, there's been a few stackoverflow questions about Perl 6. 20:37
[Coke] 56. :)
masak nice. :) 20:38
brrt p6: ::.perl 20:45
p6eval rakudo 5dd878, niecza v22-19-gd874a8e: ( no output )
brrt p6: say ::.perl
p6eval niecza v22-19-gd874a8e: OUTPUT«PseudoStash.new(...)␤»
..rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«PseudoStash.new("GLOBALish", GLOBAL, "EXPORT", EXPORT, "\$?PACKAGE", GLOBAL, "::?PACKAGE", GLOBAL, "\$_", Any, "\$/", Any, "\$!", Any, "\$=pod", Array.new(), "!UNIT_MARKER", !UNIT_MARKER, )␤»
brrt p6: say PACKAGE::.perl
p6eval niecza v22-19-gd874a8e: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Undeclared name:␤ 'PACKAGE::' used at line 1␤␤Unhandled exception: Check failed␤␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/boot/lib/CORE.setting line 1437 (die @ 5) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/src/STD.pm6 line 1147 (P6.comp_unit @ 37) ␤ at /h…
..rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤CHECK FAILED:␤Undefined routine '&PACKAGE' called (line 1)␤»
brrt p6: say $&PACKAGE.perl 20:47
p6eval niecza v22-19-gd874a8e: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Invalid hard reference syntax at /tmp/W2xTE44vkh line 1:␤------> say $⏏&PACKAGE.perl␤␤Parse failed␤␤»
..rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Invalid hard reference syntax at line 2, near "&PACKAGE.p"␤»
brrt p6: say $?PACKAGE.perl 20:48
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«GLOBAL␤»
..niecza v22-19-gd874a8e: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object␤ at Niecza.StashCursor.Core (System.String key, Boolean final, Niecza.StashCursor& sc, Niecza.Variable& v, Niecza.Variable bind_to) [0x00000] in <file…
[Coke] r: use Exporter; 20:56
p6eval rakudo 5dd878: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Could not find Exporter in any of: /home/p6eval/nom-inst/lib/parrot/4.8.0-devel/languages/perl6/lib, /home/p6eval/nom-inst/lib/parrot/4.8.0-devel/languages/perl6/vendor/lib, /home/p6eval/nom-inst/lib/parrot/4.8.0-devel/languages/perl6/site/lib, /home/p…
mj41 hi, Is there any way to do something like say Qc $template; without eval? ... example gist.github.com/4034388 20:58
[Coke] ... you want to run arbitrary code in a Str without an eval? 21:00
mj41 [Coke]: ... yes ... maybe it doesn't make sense at all :-) 21:02
jnthn mj41: I just did a load of quote improvements recently and I'm not aware of a way to do that :)
mj41 I think Qc is sort of syntax useful for simple template system. But not sure if it is intended to be somehow reusable on Str without eval. ... Sorry if it doesn't make sense. ... Eval is probably good enough. 21:06
jnthn Well, the thing that does the interpolation is the parser 21:08
And eval is the way to call back into that :)
You could possibly argue we need a way to call *directly* into the quote parser, such that it expects to parse the whole of a string.
Since eval starts in the main language. 21:09
mj41 jnthn: yes something like that ... problem with eval solution is line 13 gist.github.com/4034388 ... but I can live with this for now :-). 21:13
[Coke] mj41: what's the problem? 21:17
r: gist.github.com/4034388
p6eval rakudo f81716: OUTPUT«1␤abc $mvar 10 $mvar abc␤2␤abc $mvar 10 $mvar abc␤3␤...how?␤»
mj41 [Coke]: if you uncomment line 13 21:18
[Coke] r: gist.github.com/4034551
p6eval rakudo f81716: OUTPUT«1␤abc $mvar 10 $mvar abc␤2␤===SORRY!===␤Confused␤at eval_0:1␤»
mj41 you need to escape all ｣
[Coke] r: gist.github.com/4034551
p6eval rakudo f81716: OUTPUT«1␤abc $mvar 10 $mvar abc␤2␤something borked␤===SORRY!===␤Confused␤at eval_0:1␤»
[Coke] so if the eval might fail, wrap it in a try, no? 21:19
so if the eval might fail, wrap it in a try, no? 21:20
r: gist.github.com/4034551
p6eval rakudo f81716: OUTPUT«1␤abc $mvar 10 $mvar abc␤2␤something borked␤3␤...how?␤»
[Coke] (there, need proper catch block)
mj41 rhr: say Qc 'abc \' $mvar {$mvar} $mvar abc'; 21:22
rhr: say Qc 'abc \' abc'; 21:24
masak mj41: it's also fairly easy to do your own templating with .trans 21:34
I do that quite a lot.
'night, #perl5 21:36
er, #perl6 :P
[Coke] masak: *mock horror* 21:47
mj41 night ... and thx for help and new features raw.github.com/mj41/Perl-6-GD/mast...odData.png 21:49
jnthn mj41++ # producing the graph 21:51
PerlJam Is there an easyish way to make an RPM out of a CPAN dist (including its dependencies) ? 21:59
oops, ww
(but if you guys know the answer, I'd appreciate it :) 22:00
geekosaur cpan2rpm? 22:01
flussence wishes distro package managers had pluggable repo support so stuff like CPAN became built-in... 22:06
Tene yum has pluggable repo support 22:20
I usually use cpan2dist, I think. I've previously used cpanspec, and before that cpan2rpm. 22:21
Tene looks like out of those three, my laptop only has cpanspec installed, so I probably used that most-recently. 22:22
PerlJam Tene: thanks, that helps. 22:26
Tene Feel free to message me if you run into any trouble. 22:29
Krunch are there any kind of "complex" synchronisation objects in perl6? specifically i am interested in a thread-safe queue (this seems to have been in rfc185 previously) 22:37
sorear funny you should mention that, because thread-safe queues are the ONLY complex sync object in niecza 22:38
multithreading has not seen very much love in either compiler yet 22:39
Krunch just found rfc86 which mentions mailboxes 22:40
but yeah, i realise threads are not quite there yet
PerlJam Krunch: what were you going to do with these "complex synchronization objects" if you found them? :) 22:43
Krunch just trying to write a "concurrent hello world" in perl6 22:44
linuxfr.org/news/de-tout-de-rien-d...nt-1406218 22:45
jnthn has blaught: 6guts.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/lots...r-release/ 23:27
sleep & 23:28

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