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Set by moritz on 3 May 2013.
[Coke] Any issues with me borrowing some of rakudo's build infrastructure for another nqp-targeting language 01:51
?
diakopter o_O 01:52
I can't imagine anyone..
minding
Timbus i think most people would be thrilled
[Coke] it's also artistic 2.0, even.
Timbus holy carp moarvm 01:53
what is this some kind of christmas
[Coke] some kind. 01:54
Timbus oh i see :I 01:55
diakopter what :)
Teratogen d 02:09
hmm
eternaleye Timbus: I don't think it's quite *the* Christmas yet, but there's definitely some nice presents showing up :P 02:12
[Coke] nqp error: STable conflict detected during deserialization. 02:24
lizmat goodnight #perl6! 06:22
FROGGS[mobile] morning 06:40
diakopter yo 06:42
tadzik hello 07:12
labster good moarning 07:13
masak hello hello 07:14
masak .oO( so yesterday wasn't all a dream! ) 07:15
FROGGS[mobile] *g* 07:18
labster Actually, I just like the word 'moar'. I've used it enough in text messages that my iPhone helpfully suggests it when I misspell it. 07:22
tadzik it's a nice pun too 07:24
masak .oO( a... pun? ) :P
trexy I'm preparing a presentation today and I've got a couple of questions ... anyone about? 07:26
tadzik Parrot wanted to run moar dynamic languages, moar is trying to parrot the way it runs rakudo 07:27
masak trexy: we're about. ask away.
trexy Hey Masak - cool
masak tadzik: I doubt anyone thought of it that way. your brain is a pretzel :P
trexy i'd like to cite this example in a presentation - I'd like to understand what is going on first - rosettacode.org/wiki/Inverted_index#Perl_6 07:28
tadzik masak: is it good or bad? :)
masak tadzik: depends, I guess, (a) if you like pretzels, and (b) if you're a zombie. 07:30
FROGGS[mobile] tadzik: if you are rolling (?) the r in parrot like in "that parrot is dead" then it will be good :p
trexy so - *@files in MAIN - how do you read that? - slurp in a list of files from the command line into the @files list
masak trexy: yeah.
trexy and the Whatever *?
masak in a signature, the * means "slurp". 07:32
that is "put as many arguments as you have into this parameter".
trexy great - that makes sense
masak \o/
FROGGS[mobile] perl6 implicit understanding... 07:33
trexy ok so - it then iterates through each file - slurping in the full contents of each file and lowercasing everything 07:34
where "words" is tokenising the input? 07:35
masak yeah.
.words does .comb(/\S+/)
trexy ah ok cool
trexy now -- the big question ... 07:35
masak (you saved the big question?) :P
trexy haha ... now the metaoperator X 07:36
applied to =>
what's going on there?
masak oh, that one's pretty nice. 07:37
masak "kay $file aganst all individual words as values". 07:37
key*
r: my $file = "foo"; my @words = <a b c d>; say ($file X=> @words).perl 07:38
camelia rakudo cd5ca7: OUTPUT«("foo" => "a", "foo" => "b", "foo" => "c", "foo" => "d").list␤»
trexy cool - I thought it was doing something like that
can't run this example as I'm on a prehistoric version of rakudo
Timbus hm 07:39
r: my $file = "foo"; my @words = <a b c d>; say ($file >>=>>> @words).perl
camelia rakudo cd5ca7: OUTPUT«("foo" => "a",).list␤»
Timbus aw
r: my $file = "foo"; my @words = <a b c d>; say ($file >>=><< @words).perl
camelia rakudo cd5ca7: OUTPUT«Lists on both side of non-dwimmy hyperop of infix:<=>> are not of the same length␤left: 1 elements, right: 4 elements␤ in sub hyper at src/gen/CORE.setting:14093␤ in sub hyper at src/gen/CORE.setting:14081␤ in block at src/gen/CORE.setting:14072␤ in block at …
masak Timbus: try turning both outwards.
Timbus man i forget which way every time
masak :)
Timbus r: my $file = "foo"; my @words = <a b c d>; say ($file <<=>>> @words).perl 07:40
camelia rakudo cd5ca7: OUTPUT«("foo" => "a", "foo" => "b", "foo" => "c", "foo" => "d").list␤»
trexy ok - so this is hash is then returned from the the "do" and pushed onto results
Timbus there we go. much uglier
trexy hmm - not getting what is happening here: 07:41
(my %norm).push: do for @files -> $file {
masak "create a hash, push these pairs into it". 07:44
now, .push to a hash has a bit special semantics, that's what the code is after.
...but I've gotta run to an airplane; someone else better take over the explanation ;)
moritz note that a for loop returns a list of values that the block returned
trexy thanks Masak - safe flight 07:45
ok Moritz - got it I think
Timbus Hash.push is one of my most favoritest things
trexy OK - almost there now 07:46
the for loop is returning a list of pairs
the each pairs is pushed onto the hash 07:47
.push: <- what is going on with the colon
?
moritz it says "what follows are arguments for the method" 07:48
trexy yep - ok thought so
and the first argument to push is a list - generated by the for loop 07:49
masak &
trexy hmmm or the do?
moritz generated by the do for 07:51
'for' normally is a statement; 'do' turns it into an expression 07:52
tadzik flies 07:53
trexy ok so when you see a "do" in this context - how do you read in your mind? 07:57
Timbus 'do this, give result' 07:59
trexy thanks Timbus 08:03
makes sense
FROGGS[mobile] gorram it, I hate waiting at the airport 08:33
I guess it's too late to ask tadzik if he is flying via NY 08:34
diakopter he is :) 08:38
FROGGS[mobile] cool, then it is pretty possible we meet there 08:40
diakopter he'll be there from 4:30 to 8:30 p.m. 08:41
jfk
FROGGS[mobile] I'm there from five to seven or so 08:42
tadzik FROGGS[mobile]: I am 09:56
I'll be there in about 11 hours
10:45 from now, according to schedule 09:57
FROGGS[mobile] I am there in about 13 hours 09:58
tadzik I'll spend 4 hours on the airport
FROGGS[mobile] I am wearing a light blue yapc shirt
tadzik I have a PLPW t-shirt
FROGGS[mobile] I just two or so
tadzik from where you're flying?
FROGGS[mobile] *nerds* *g*
tadzik I can wait at the exits
FROGGS[mobile] berlin 09:59
tadzik okay
You're to arrive in Austin at like, 11:50 pm?
FROGGS[mobile] ab7248
no, more like 9pm
tadzik hmm. You'll arrive 2 hours later than me, leave 2 hours earlier. What sorcery is this 10:00
FROGGS[mobile] i am arriving 15:45
at the jfk airport
tadzik jfk time, I assume
FROGGS[mobile] yes 10:01
tadzik landing: 40:40p
er, 4:40p
FROGGS[mobile] and then ckeck in is 16:50 10:01
tadzik heh
FROGGS[mobile] ohh
tadzik minimal chance to meet then :)
FROGGS[mobile] damn 10:02
:/
tadzik the beginning of checkin?
FROGGS[mobile] yes
tadzik well, better not wait for me
I'm flying the virgin flight of the new Dreamliner
I seat near the emergency exit, Justin Case
FROGGS[mobile] were do you stay this night?
tadzik in austin
timotimo sadfaces, that X.method doesn't work 10:03
FROGGS[mobile] in austin? really? :p
tadzik heh
doubletree, I think
diakopter?
FROGGS[mobile] ahh, k
I'm at the rodeway inn, which is pretty close 10:04
timotimo so, with the newer rakudo, there's no way to make a gather for or gather map lazy? :(
tadzik er, how can gather not be lazy?
timotimo ah, binding
FROGGS[mobile] timotimo: no idea
timotimo forgot to :
tadzik a list assignment is eager
timotimo yeah. didn't sleep so good i fear 10:05
FROGGS[mobile] how is gulasch going?
timotimo: I hope your bed isnt under water :/ 10:06
timotimo it isn't, but the rest of the city is 10:08
FROGGS[mobile] tadzik: we cant meet at the jfk cause you have to fetch your luggadge when I am alteady boarding
tadzik I have no luggage
besides hand luggage
FROGGS[mobile] k
timotimo the closer i get to my talk, the lamer my slides seem to feel
tadzik hugs timotimo 10:09
FROGGS[mobile] timotimo: yeah, I think I know what you mean
timotimo there's so much stuff i'd love to show, but all i seem to do is show off the most basic stuff that everybody has already seen in other languages 10:10
tadzik what's your talk?
timotimo it'll be 1 hour of semi-unorganised perl6 'goodies' 10:11
tadzik ossum
on monday?
timotimo today at 1800
tadzik ah
timotimo i spent most of my time preparing a framework to do the presentation properly with, but i'm sure it was time well invested. it's quite flashy
FROGGS[mobile] tadzik: he is at the GPN in germany 10:12
tadzik I see 10:13
timotimo wasn't there an amusing recronym of "Cool" at one point?
tadzik there was 10:15
I think it said something about 'object oriented' ;) 10:16
layer? 10:17
convenient?
timotimo ah, that sounds about right 10:21
Cool Perl 6 Convenient OO Loopbacks 10:22
tadzik :)
close enough
timotimo a class can ~~ a role, even if it doesn't explicitly does/but the exact role in question, is that right?
r: role Tag { method tag() { ... } }; class Flop { method tag() { say "got me!" } }; say Flop ~~ Tag; say Flop.new() ~~ Tag; 10:23
camelia rakudo cd5ca7: OUTPUT«False␤False␤»
timotimo hm.
spider-mario the debugger in Star 2013.05 fails to build on my machine: 10:34
paste.awesom.eu/MEC
oh, I might not have the right parrot/nqp in my path 10:35
:/
I’ll try again
spider-mario it still fails :( 11:00
timotimo r: my ($cool, $all); for OUTER::OUTER::.kv -> $k, $v { if $k ~~ /^<upper>/ { if $v ~~ Cool { $cool++; @coolclassnames.push: $k; } $all++ } } say "$cool / $all of classes are Cool."; 11:17
can that be right?
camelia rakudo cd5ca7: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Variable '@coolclassnames' is not declared␤at /tmp/k3FrFVBUsZ:1␤------> Cool { $cool++; @coolclassnames.push: $k⏏; } $all++ } } say "$cool / $all of clas␤ expecting any of:␤ postfix␤»
timotimo whoops
r: my ($cool, $all); for OUTER::OUTER::.kv -> $k, $v { if $k ~~ /^<upper>/ { if $v ~~ Cool { $cool++ } $all++ } } say "$cool / $all of classes are Cool.";
camelia rakudo cd5ca7: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Confused␤at /tmp/nFqY7hi0NA:1␤------> /^<upper>/ { if $v ~~ Cool { $cool++ } ⏏$all++ } } say "$cool / $all of classes ␤ expecting any of:␤ postfix␤ statement end␤ statement modifier␤ …
timotimo r: my ($cool, $all); for OUTER::OUTER::.kv -> $k, $v { if $k ~~ /^<upper>/ { if $v ~~ Cool { $cool++ }; $all++ } }; say "$cool / $all of classes are Cool.";
camelia rakudo cd5ca7: OUTPUT«3 / 3 of classes are Cool.␤»
timotimo oh, hehe. wrong number of OUTER for the evalbot it seems 11:18
r: my ($cool, $all); for OUTER::OUTER::OUTER::.kv -> $k, $v { if $k ~~ /^<upper>/ { if $v ~~ Cool { $cool++ }; $all++ } }; say "$cool / $all of classes are Cool.";
camelia rakudo cd5ca7: OUTPUT«use of uninitialized value of type Any in string context in block at /tmp/NOkp8cmeLJ:1␤␤use of uninitialized value of type Any in string context in block at /tmp/NOkp8cmeLJ:1␤␤ / of classes are Cool.␤»
timotimo r: my ($cool, $all); for OUTER::.kv -> $k, $v { if $k ~~ /^<upper>/ { if $v ~~ Cool { $cool++ }; $all++ } }; say "$cool / $all of classes are Cool.";
camelia rakudo cd5ca7: OUTPUT«use of uninitialized value of type Any in string context in block at /tmp/dB3umFfDNM:1␤␤use of uninitialized value of type Any in string context in block at /tmp/dB3umFfDNM:1␤␤ / of classes are Cool.␤»
timotimo hum.
whatevs.
jercos r: {my$p=(3-.bytes)%3;.list.push(0 xx$p).map(->$a,$b,$c{('A'..'Z','a'..'z',0..9,<+ />)[$a+>2,$a+<4+&0x30+|$b+>4,$b+<2+&0x3C+|$c+>6,$c+&0x3F]}).join.substr(0,*-$p)~"="x$p}("any carnal pleasure.".encode) 11:30
camelia rakudo cd5ca7: ( no output )
jercos r: {my$p=(3-.bytes)%3;.list.push(0 xx$p).map(->$a,$b,$c{('A'..'Z','a'..'z',0..9,<+ />)[$a+>2,$a+<4+&0x30+|$b+>4,$b+<2+&0x3C+|$c+>6,$c+&0x3F]}).join.substr(0,*-$p)~"="x$p}("any carnal pleasure.".encode).say
camelia rakudo cd5ca7: OUTPUT«YW55IGNhcm5hbCBwbGVhc3VyZS4=␤»
jercos r: {Buf.new(.comb(/. ** 4/).map({pack("N",('A'..'Z','a'..'z',0..9,<+ />).pairs.map(*.invert).hash.push("=",[]).{.comb}.reduce((*+<6)+|*)).[1..(3-($_~~/\=\=?/).chars)]}))}("YW55IGNhcm5hbCBwbGVhc3VyZS4=").decode.say 11:31
camelia rakudo cd5ca7: OUTPUT«any carnal pleasure.␤»
jercos well that was fun :3
side note: MIME::Base64 working with strings is, in my mind, rather silly given base64 is a mapping of a string of bytes to a string of characters, not of characters to characters. 11:32
jercos would personally expect to, as above, get a Buf back from a base64_decode, and feed a buf into a base64_encode 11:33
moritz that's probably the sanest factoring, yes 11:36
colomon +1 11:55
spider-mario building the perl6 debugger appears to work when star is already installed system-wide, which suggests a path problem to me 12:10
Ulti is going to a talk titled "Perl 6 ... Am I Bovvered?" 12:27
perl monger in Bristol, UK is giving a talk to all the local techy people
from the blurb it looks like they are "bovvered" too
ztt_ Array has .each method is convenient if 12:47
moritz can't parse that statement 12:51
colomon needs to get packing 13:14
pmichaud good morning, #perl6 13:23
huf mood gorning, serl pix 13:24
lizmat morning pmichaud, huf 13:25
pmichaud time to read backlog 13:26
colomon o/ 13:28
pmichaud heh 13:32
ubuntu marked bug #1 as resolved. 13:33
colomon what was it? I've been ignoring that story on hacker news for a week... ;)
pmichaud bug #1 was that microsoft dominated with a majority of market share.
moritz of desktop OS
colomon any early reports from the hackathon? 14:39
colomon is mostly packed, thanks to his wife's amazing packing skills
arnsholt I'm going there in a little bit, so no report from me yet 14:48
gfldex imagines an ear sticking out of a suitcase
diakopter japhb: ping 14:49
pmichaud I'm not yet packed. :-/ 14:51
need to pack in the next six hours
current eta in Austin for me is about 21:00-21:30
sorear good * #perl6 15:20
sorear o/ colomon 15:26
GlitchMr It's so fun when your computer explodes. 15:35
Util colomon: Early report from hackathon = rurban is helping arnsholt with a zavolaj bug, bulk88 is here and catching up with rurban, Michael Hamlin and Sebastian Green-Husted are looking at unmaintained modules to adopt, and dukeleto just walked in. 15:53
colomon at the airport. 15:57
sorear yay colomon 15:58
me too
colomon sorear! \o/
sorear somehow I don't think we're talking about the same one though
colomon, \o/
nwc10 are you sure - they all look the same :-( 15:59
colomon nwc10: not this one, it's pretty small. MBS
sorear nwc10: I am talking to you from the WORLD'S BUSIEST 1-RUNWAY AIRPORT
colomon I can see 5 of the 6 gates from where I'm sitting.
sorear and the travel channel thinks it's the world's 10th most dangerous, too (mostly for that reason) 16:00
colomon hard to believe it's the *world*'s 10th most dangerous. 16:01
nwc10 curious. Gatwick merrily claims "has the world's busiest single-use runway with up to 53 aircraft movements per hour in late-2012 and a maximum capacity of 55 movements per hour"
that's a different excuse for a stat
colomon realizes belatedly that it is June 16:02
nwc10 European airports usually skew things in their favour by qualifying it as the most X for an international aiport
everyone cheats
sorear colomon: the list was only commercial passenger airports, so no "airstrip outside McMurdo" stuff 16:05
colomon sorear: ah, I was thinking of "third world corrupt dictatorship" airports. ;) 16:06
sorear I think they might have been excluding "management" type issues, iirc it was mostly "really awful terrain for an airport" things 16:07
but it was entertainment TV, not a reliable source anyway :p
colomon ... but ... but ... it's more reliable than the Internet, right?!
moritz you mean the Internet isn't reliable???? 16:21
nwc10 IP sure isn't reliable, so it might contain lies, but I thought that TCP was reliable, so surely it will be telling the truth :-) 16:22
moritz hey, it's checksummed, so it must be consistent! 16:24
colomon just realized he has just spent thirty minutes fiddling around instead of getting to actual hacking 16:35
colomon actually, an awful lot of it has been waiting for Quicken to start so he can make a $work invoice 16:42
afk # shutting down in anticipation of boarding starting soon...
timotimo how would other people like an "is ducky" trait that would cause the optimizer to look at the arguments and make sure that all of them have a type that's known or restricted at compile time? 17:50
moritz isn't that the opposite of duck typing? 17:56
avuserow is on the way to YAPC::NA :) 18:16
dukeleto o/ 18:44
dukeleto is hanging out with Util++ and others at the YAPC::NA hackathon
lizmat being one of the others :-) 18:47
labster I'm heading down to L.A. pretty soon now to catch my flight. 19:00
Though it's an overnight flight, so I thought I'd do some sightseeing first 19:01
lizmat r: my $a= my %{Any} # sadly, no way to create a nameless typed hash 19:15
camelia rakudo cd5ca7: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Unsupported use of %{Any}; in Perl 6 please use %Any␤at /tmp/1C7NgaIFyY:1␤------> my $a= my %{Any}⏏ # sadly, no way to create a nameless t␤»
sorear Texas achieved 20:01
moritz \o
pmichaud sorear: Welcome to Texas. 20:05
I'm already in Texas also, but still about 4 hours driving away :)
sorear currently chillin in DFW... tantalizingly close 20:08
about 2 hours away
pmichaud heh 20:09
oh! then I'm only about 20 miles from you.
sorear so I hear you and/or diakopter will be picking lots of people up?
Hah
pmichaud I could practically pick you up from DFW and you could ride with me to AUS :)
sorear If we'd coordinated better ... yeah
pmichaud I'm not slated to pick people up yet, because I don't yet know when I'll be driving to AUS.
I'm an unreliable taxi this week. 20:10
sorear well, gdey and me will be landing at 1705
pmichaud once I'm in AUS, I can do some taxiing
I'll probably be departing here around 1705
maybe a bit later
so... I'm guessing you're in Terminal B?
sorear where are you currently? IIRC you live in Corpus Christi? 20:11
pmichaud I used to live in Corpus Christi, a decade ago.
I now live in Plano.
just north of Dallas
sorear I'm sitting 15ft away from Gate C19
pmichaud 30 minutes from my driveway to Terminal C parking :)
I thought about flying DFW->AUS or DAL->AUS, but I like having my car with me in AUS. Plus I can return home whenever I want/need to 20:13
dalek d: 2504c1a | larry++ | STD.pm6:
don't carp about %{} and such in a declaration
 21:06
TimToady 1st commit from Austin...
araujo anybody knows if there exist a perl6 tool to test apps? 21:16
and hi around :)
lizmat TimToady++ :-) 21:22
tadzik hello #perl6 21:50
lizmat hi tadzik! 21:56
tadzik waiting at JFK
arnsholt Almost there! 21:57
lizmat feels for tadzik 21:59
tadzik which us beer is good? 22:06
budweisser, coors, samuel adams?
lizmat none() 22:07
budweiser and coors are the very big chain beers 22:08
lee__ don't they only drink Lone Star in Austin? :P
lizmat samuel adams I do not know
tadzik is still at JFK :-(
tadzik I took some Magic Hat
its wikipedia picture looked good ;)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Magic_h...nd_mug.jpg 22:09
lizmat and when you empty the bottle, and how it upside down, it shows a 6! 22:09
*hold 22:10
tadzik and I get to fly the dreamliner on the back way too! \o/
lizmat way cool! 22:11
tadzik www.lowbird.com/data/images/2011/01...ch-win.jpg
that airplane is friggin awesome
mine was the first one ever to land at JFK, so they used a fire truck to baptise it
lizmat: (shows a 6) cool trick, I have to try that :P 22:12
timotimo moritz: the person who suggested it clled it "compile time duck typing", which is of course not a sensible term 22:24
timotimo sadly, i didn't get to mention >>op<< and friends once in my talk. also almost no word no lazy/infinite lists or gather/take, no given/when, not much smartmatch 22:27
i'm kind of sadface. at least my slides were for almost exactly 1hr 22:28
lizmat timotimo++ for getting out the word 22:32
timotimo from a cursry poll from my audience it seems i wasn't able to bring people to the same excitement as i feel day to day when doing perl 6 23:08
i think i wrote my perl6 too punctuationy for a few of the people 23:09
tadzik timotimo++
if one person got it, it was a success
timotimo i did :P
tadzik awesome :)
timotimo i talked to a perl5 person after my talk and whet his appetite regarding junctions and given/when and wowed him with rakudo::debugger's source code 23:10
lizmat fwiw, I think there are *plenty* of (ex-)Perl5 people out there wanting to come back to something good like Perl 6
tadzik there was an insightful talk the other day 23:11
(the other year, more like)
it went along "I moved from Perl to Ruby because syntax, but now I'm back because MooSex::Declare"
timotimo is moosex::declare the thing that makes classes in perl5 look like in perl6? 23:12
tadzik yeah
timotimo i wonder if it would be workable to follow the implementation of MoarVM and try to build a as-similar-as-possible system atop pypy 23:13
it would give a GC and JIT for free basically
TimToady std: my %{Any}; 23:15
camelia std 2504c1a: OUTPUT«ok 00:00 43m␤»
colomon_phone o/ 23:18
Waiting for shuttle to hotel
Anything exciting happen today?
lizmat Edith Bunker died? 23:19
colomon_phone Really?
I had no idea she was still alive 23:20
lizmat 90 years
colomon_phone Good run
colomon_phone tries to remember when jnthn's flight gets in 23:22
sorear good * #perl6
colomon_phone Sorear!
sorear colomon_phone: diakopter is going to pick up jnthn and masak at 1930
presumably the flight comes in before then
colomon_phone Are you at the hotel? 23:23
sorear Yes 23:24
tadzik I'll be in austin in 11:48, will there be someone to pick me up?
colomon_phone Cool
sorear diakopter> I can be there in 15m if you want me to pick you up
(he's right behind me) 23:25
tadzik it took me a while to get it :) 23:25
ok, that'd be awesome
colomon_phone How big is Austin? I was surprised at the size of the airport
sorear tadzik: 11m 48s? 23:26
shall we leave now?
tadzik sorear: no, I don't think it's necessary :)
but if you could be there circa 12 pm, that'd be great
sorear We thought you arrived at 8:30?
tadzik on jfk, yes
oh, no 23:27
I depart at 8:31
(from jfk)
sorear colomon_phone: do you need a ride? now>
colomon_phone I've paid for a shuttle
sorear Ah. 23:28
colomon_phone On shuttle 23:29
Now
sorear k 23:32
diakopter sorear: tell the guys there about this beeradvocate.com/beerfly/city/30 23:43
tadzik mmm
do you us people have deep friend beer too? 23:44
diakopter I think so
tadzik er, deep fried tha tis
since deep fried ice cream, I expect ridiculous things 23:45
sorear diakopter: They say "get your butt down here"
diakopter what does that mean
I was just there
colomon_phone At hotel 23:46
diakopter o/
diakopter stefan, you're waiting for me, right? 23:56
sorear: ^
arnsholt: ping 23:57
anyone have arne's cell phone?
colomon_phone: ask the front desk if your name is on the same room as Arne Skjsaerholt 23:58
I'm sorry i didn't write down these plans )_)
colomon_phone Arne is here, but they claimed not to have my name or his 23:59
diakopter yeah they do
diakopter Confirmation: 88189871 23:59

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