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Set by sorear on 25 June 2013.
benabik r-p: 1782**12+1841**12-1922**12 00:00
camelia ( no output )
benabik r-p: say 1782**12+1841**12-1922**12 00:01
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«-700212234530608691501223040959␤»
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TimToady p: &circumfix:«{"{ }".words}»(4,5).say 00:36
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Null PMC access in get_bool()␤»
TimToady lue: note that Str|Int cannot ever work in modern Perl 6, since | has been stolen to mean something else 00:37
(in siggie kinds of things) 00:38
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TimToady p: &circumfix:«{'{'} {'}'}}»(4,5).say 00:39
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Null PMC access in get_bool()␤»
lue TimToady: so I'm guessing that conjectural bit is garbage now? Or does it just need new syntax?
TimToady that section is completely petrified 00:40
and the whole thing turned out to be a can of semantic worms with very little social redeeming value 00:43
lue Int⦀Str :) 00:44
TimToady: I can tell it's old by the fact it references "Perl 6.0.0" instead of "Perl 6" ( Not that .0.0 isn't something to talk about nowadays, but we don't think of this as "the initial version of P6" much anymore :) ) 00:45
TimToady r: say «{4 + 2} 4+2».perl 00:46
camelia rakudo-jvm 882e33: OUTPUT«java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space␤ in (gen/jvm/CORE.setting)␤ in (gen/jvm/ModuleLoader.nqp:349)␤ in load_setting (gen/jvm/ModuleLoader.nqp:340)␤ in (src/Perl6/World.nqp:304)␤ in load_setting (src/Perl6/World.nqp:300)␤ in (src…»
..rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«(("6",).list, "4+2")␤»
TimToady r: say (6,'4+2') 00:47
lue TimToady: shall I purge the Polymorphic type section in S02 then?
camelia rakudo-jvm 882e33: OUTPUT«java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space␤ in (gen/jvm/CORE.setting)␤ in (gen/jvm/ModuleLoader.nqp:349)␤ in load_setting (gen/jvm/ModuleLoader.nqp:340)␤ in (src/Perl6/World.nqp:304)␤ in load_setting (src/Perl6/World.nqp:300)␤ in (src…»
..rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«6 4+2␤»
TimToady p: say «{4 + 2} 4+2»
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«64+2␤»
TimToady so where's the space? 00:48
p: say ((6,),'4+2')
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«6 4+2␤»
lue n: say «{4 + 2} 4+2»
camelia niecza v24-98-g473bd20: OUTPUT«6 4+2␤»
colomon r: say "64 + 2"
camelia rakudo-jvm 882e33: OUTPUT«java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space␤ in (gen/jvm/CORE.setting)␤ in (gen/jvm/ModuleLoader.nqp:349)␤ in load_setting (gen/jvm/ModuleLoader.nqp:340)␤ in (src/Perl6/World.nqp:304)␤ in load_setting (src/Perl6/World.nqp:300)␤ in (src…»
..rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«64 + 2␤»
TimToady p: say ((6,).list,'4+2') 00:49
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«6 4+2␤»
colomon r-p: say "{4 + 2} 4+2" 00:50
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«6 4+2␤»
TimToady p: say «{4 + 2} 4+2».perl.eval
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«6 4+2␤»
colomon n: say «{4 + 2} 4+2»
TimToady p: say «{4 + 2} 4+2»
camelia niecza v24-98-g473bd20: OUTPUT«6 4+2␤»
rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«64+2␤»
TimToady here we have a value that doesn't round-trip through .perl.eval !!! 00:51
oh, wait, it does, just wrong :)
p: say ('1','2').gist 00:52
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 2␤»
TimToady p: say ('1'.list,'2').gist
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 2␤»
lue files quoteword space rakudobug 00:53
TimToady p: say (('1',).list,'2').gist
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 2␤»
TimToady p: say «1 2»
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 2␤»
TimToady scratches his head
colomon p: say «{1} 2» 00:54
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«12␤»
TimToady p: say «{1} 2».perl 00:55
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«(("1",).list, "2")␤»
TimToady p: say (("1",).list, "2")
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 2␤»
lue p: say «1 {2} 3»
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«123␤»
lue p: say «1 2 3»
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 2 3␤»
colomon lue++
lue p: say «1 see{2} 3» 00:56
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 see23␤»
lue o.o
p: say «1 see{2}it 3»
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 see2it 3␤»
TimToady p: say «1 {2} 3».perl.eval
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 2 3␤»
TimToady p: say «1 {2} 3».perl
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«("1", ("2",).list, "3")␤»
lue p: say «1 see{2}it 7 {8}9 10»
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 see2it 789 10␤» 00:57
TimToady p: say ("1", ("2",).list, "3")
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 2 3␤»
TimToady p: say ("1", ("2",).list, "3").gist
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 2 3␤»
TimToady p: say ("1", ("2",).list, "3").Str
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 2 3␤»
TimToady p: say ~("1", ("2",).list, "3") 00:58
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 2 3␤»
TimToady so, what's eating the space?
p: say «1 {2} 3».WHAT 00:59
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«(Parcel)␤»
TimToady p: say «1 {2} 3».gist
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 2 3␤»
lue p: say qqw:/1 {2} 3/
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/co2LCoRvej␤Colons may not be used to delimit quoting constructs␤at /tmp/co2LCoRvej:1␤------> say qqw:⏏/1 {2} 3/␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair (restricted)␤»
lue p: say qqw/1 {2} 3/ 01:00
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 2 3␤»
lue ppphhhtt
TimToady p: say «1 '{2}' 3»
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1{2}3␤»
TimToady n: say «1 '{2}' 3»
camelia niecza v24-98-g473bd20: OUTPUT«1 '2' 3␤»
lue p: say «1 \{ 3»
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 { 3␤»
lue p: say «1 \{\} 3»
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 {} 3␤» 01:01
TimToady n: my $x = 2; say «1 '$x' 3»
camelia niecza v24-98-g473bd20: OUTPUT«1 '2' 3␤»
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TimToady p: my $x = 2; say «1 '$x' 3» 01:02
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1$x3␤»
TimToady p: my $x = 2; say «1 "$x" 3»
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«123␤»
lue p: my $x = 2; say «1 $x 3»
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«123␤»
TimToady again, spaces disappear
lue TimToady: quit making me have to revise my bug report! :P
p: my $x = 2; say «1 see$x 3» 01:03
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«1 see23␤»
lue p: say «1 '2' 3» 01:04
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«123␤»
lue p: say «1 '2 3»
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/dldNC_ua_l␤Unable to parse expression in single quotes; couldn't find final "'" ␤at /tmp/dldNC_ua_l:1␤------> say «1 '2 3»⏏<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ argu…»
lue p: say «1 ''2 3»
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«12 3␤»
lue does... does '' count as interpol... /me checks S02
TimToady it's clearly wrong from the standpoint of "should work like shell quoting"
TimToady decides to go pick at a real scab instead of a metaphorical one 01:06
lue created rakudobug finally 01:08
lue enjoys the web-based interface
I'll get rid of the "Polymorphic Types" section from S02, if no-one objects. 01:11
TimToady <crickets> 01:12
colomon half the world is asleep 01:13
dalek ecs: d8cd922 | lue++ | S02-bits.pod:
[S02] Get rid of Polymorphic Types

The idea was novel, but sadly it introduces a terrible set of consequences. Additionally, no-one ever implemented it, and it's never been really necessary.
Also, the pipe character was already in use in other ways. That's just untenable.		 01:16
TimToady predicts <crickets> from the rest of the world as well 01:18
lue "I never even knew about those polygonal types anyway" 01:19
colomon that's how you solve the square versus rectangle conundrum, right? 01:22
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lue Any particular reason why ‹› isn't the Unicode equivalent to <> in P6? (Or has it just never been that important?) 01:23
colomon <crickets> ;) 01:24
lue ‹crickets›
TimToady r: say q‹crickets› 01:25
camelia rakudo-jvm 882e33: OUTPUT«(timeout)» 01:26
..rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«crickets␤»
TimToady maybe someone should just unplug the jvm for now...
we haven't gone out of our way to look for non-latin1 equivalents for latin1 operators 01:27
lue p: say qw‹foo bar baz›
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«foo bar baz␤»
lue TimToady: that was my suspicion (not gone out of your way). It would nicely mirror <<>>/«» is all.
TimToady note we don't even have ≠ 01:28
we were kinda forced out of latin1 in dealing with sets, since the texas versions are so klunky 01:29
colomon It's so easy to add your own version of operators...
lue colomon: precisely why I'm not moaning about it. It was just an idea that flashed across my mind today :) 01:30
TimToady likes ≟
or should that be ≟≟ in C-derived languages? :) 01:31
lue ≠? What is this, a math class? if there was a EQUALS SIGN WITH OVERLAYED EXCLAMATION MARK, maybe, but for now != works :)
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TimToady then there's ÷ 01:31
if we switched to that, we could do like Ada and make /= the sign for ≠ 01:32
lue p: say "Champion of Unicode™" if 1 ⩵ 1
TimToady I'm sure everyone would just love that...
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/G3psVWzgxY␤Two terms in a row␤at /tmp/G3psVWzgxY:1␤------> say "Champion of Unicode™" if 1 ⏏⩵ 1␤ expecting any of:␤ postfix␤ infix stopper␤ …»
TimToady n: say "Champion of Unicode™" if 1 ⩵ 1 01:33
camelia niecza v24-98-g473bd20: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Confused at /tmp/7T9m39PJwM line 1:␤------> say "Champion of Unicode™" if 1 ⏏⩵ 1␤␤Parse failed␤␤»
TimToady I like that message better.
TimToady doesn't know how rakudo gets the notion that there's another term there... 01:34
lue also, my $a ≝ 42; (really, Unicode gives us no excuse to ambiguate = anymore :P) 01:35
TimToady that would make more sense for a constant than a variable 01:36
lue nod
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TimToady np: constant @a = 1,@a; say @a[3] 01:38
nr: constant @a = 1,@a; say @a[3]
camelia rakudo-jvm 882e33: OUTPUT«(timeout)»
..rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/MkVEGNmmJW␤Variable '@a' is not declared␤at /tmp/MkVEGNmmJW:1␤------> constant @a = 1,@a⏏; say @a[3]␤ expecting any of:␤ postfix␤»
..niecza v24-98-g473bd20: OUTPUT«(Any)␤»
TimToady nobody really does ≝ there yet
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TimToady would still like to be able to define hamming numbers the way Haskell can: hamming = 1 : map (2*) hamming `union` map (3*) hamming `union` map (5*) hamming 01:45
assuming a reasonable merge operators, should come out looking like: 01:46
my @hamming := 1, ((@hamming X* 2) M (@hamming X* 3) M (@hamming X* 5)).squish;
constant @hamming = 1, ((@hamming X* 2) M (@hamming X* 3) M (@hamming X* 5)).squish; 01:47
that is
but something is not being evaluated with sufficient abstraction for that to close the recursion 01:48
rosettacode.org/wiki/Hamming_numbers#Haskell if anyone is interested in pursuing this 01:51
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TimToady (probably requires => lists that can construct themselves lazily to do it right) 01:52
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TimToady (either that, or a purer idea of what @a means in this context) 01:53
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colomon lue: lue stands for life universe and everything? 03:24
TimToady believes that to be the case 03:26
colomon fjords 03:27
lue colomon: Life U. Everything, yesiree :)
colomon lue++ 03:29
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lue TimToady: despite how broken the «1 {2} 3» stuff is, I can't help but feel like it's more in the cool trick category than the showstopper category :) Like ☃☄: not useful, but not utterly terrible. 05:14
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TimToady well, if it isn't fixed, someone will depend on the current semantics, and then we will break their code when we make it work right; production code is really hard to fix--see Perl 5 05:18
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TimToady what was it, SCO Unix, that had && and || reversed in shell scripts, and they never could fix it 05:19
"we have customers that depend on that"
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geekosaur not in /bin/sh. it had a csh which was pretty much the same one that xenix always had, and which had that bug 05:20
xenix csh was doing that before sco existed, even 05:21
trs-xenix csh in 1982 had the same bug.
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lue
.oO(You can either get cake and die.)
 05:21
geekosaur (come to think of it I think unisoft v7's csh had it too) 05:23
they both blamed it on 2.8bsd I think?
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TimToady don't recall, but yeah, it was csh 05:26
TimToady only used 4.*bsd, which didn't have that issue that I can recall 05:27
diakopter r-j: 1 05:28
geekosaur I have heard that the bug was not in any released 2BSD csh, only in the one that found its way into xenix, unisoft, etc.
camelia ( no output )
diakopter \o/
TimToady is that just a restart or did you fix sump'n? 05:29
diakopter sum1 needs to signal hangup to the perl that lauches the eval server every day or so
*lunches 05:30
TimToady nom, nom...
diakopter r-j: 1 while try die 05:32
camelia ( no output ) 05:33
lue r-j: say "I got better" 05:34
camelia rakudo-jvm 882e33: OUTPUT«I got better␤»
geekosaur who was that masked newt?
diakopter r-j: say try die
camelia rakudo-jvm 882e33: OUTPUT«Nil␤»
diakopter r-j: say eval die 05:38
camelia rakudo-jvm 882e33: OUTPUT«␤ in block at /tmp/ZBy3qbs0pP:1␤ in any eval at gen/jvm/stage2/NQPHLL.nqp:1086␤ in any evalfiles at gen/jvm/stage2/NQPHLL.nqp:1292␤ in any command_eval at gen/jvm/stage2/NQPHLL.nqp:1196␤ in any command_eval at src/Perl6/Compiler.nqp:17␤␤»
diakopter r-p: say eval die 05:39
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6: OUTPUT«␤ in block at /tmp/PHSW8R6Ns0:1␤ in any at /tmp/PHSW8R6Ns0:1␤ in any at gen/parrot/stage2/NQPHLL.nqp:1146␤ in any eval at gen/parrot/stage2/NQPHLL.nqp:1133␤ in any evalfiles at gen/parrot/stage2/NQPHLL.nqp:1339␤ in any command_eval a…»
diakopter what'a this "in any"
geekosaur I assumed a typeything (Any vs. Block vs. ??) 05:40
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jercos r: my Int enum Card (("Ace", 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, "Jack", "Queen", "King") X~ " of " X~ ("Spades", "Clubs", "Diamonds", "Hearts")) 07:45
camelia rakudo-parrot 215ba6, rakudo-jvm 882e33: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤No such method 'returns' for invocant of type 'List'␤»
jercos n: my Int enum Card (("Ace", 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, "Jack", "Queen", "King") X~ " of " X~ ("Spades", "Clubs", "Diamonds", "Hearts")) 07:46
camelia ( no output )
jercos n: my Int enum Card (("Ace", 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, "Jack", "Queen", "King") X~ " of " X~ ("Spades", "Clubs", "Diamonds", "Hearts"));Card.pick.say
camelia niecza v24-98-g473bd20: OUTPUT«7 of Clubs␤»
jercos Was this your card? :p 07:47
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lizmat arnsholt: /o 08:09
just backlogging before decommuting
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dalek ecs: 9c428a9 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | S17-concurrency.pod:
/.sleep/.alarm/

I think ".sleep" is confusing, as its functionality does not match sleep(). And from this, we could spec an alarm() function, which would just create a subscribable with an .alarm and code to be executed when the alarm arrives.		 08:19
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dalek ecs: fa517be | util++ | S (5 files):
Fix typos in S02, S21, S99, S32/IO, and S32/Exception
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dalek ecs: 10b9553 | larry++ | S17-concurrency.pod:
$*TICK should return Instants, not DateTimes
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TimToady S17's select examples are all syntax errors, which on the surface means they need commas, but on a deeper level probably means we need a more natural syntax for our combinators 15:30
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dalek ecs: f7cb43e | larry++ | S17-concurrency.pod:
Add missing commas to select args
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TimToady wishes there were a shorter word that means "subscribable" 15:36
tadzik feed? :) You subscribe to a feed... 15:37
geekosaur "known"?
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TimToady well, the role would presumably be Feeder 15:37
but that doesn't really mean something you can sign up for
'does Feeding' is more grammatical 15:38
and nobody can figure out whether 'enrol(l)ment' has one 'l' or two 15:41
we could steal "Publisher", which is currently rather over-specific 15:42
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TimToady thinks using options on .schedule is a fine idea, given the combinatorics 15:45
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TimToady would like to sneak "cue" in there somewhere; maybe that's what "async" should become 15:46
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TimToady since a cue is what one actor takes from another to start an action or utterance 15:47
.oO(Enter Hamlet)
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TimToady though really, 'start' is probably the clearest thing to replace 'async' with 15:52
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dalek ecs: 2f50e05 | larry++ | S17-concurrency.pod:
use 'start' for initiating asynchronicity

Especially since we have a 'run' command that does something else, and 'run' most often means 'run to completion', which is not true here.		 16:05
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TimToady also, we don't have a start block anymore... 16:05
sjn hm. maybe there are more words one could use from theater terminology? :)
s/async/plot/ 16:06
"parallel storylines"
sjn would love a keyword named "meanwhile" :)
perigrin INT. Thread A 16:07
EXT. Process B
sjn finishing off might be a "finale"
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dalek ecs: 6b3e9d8 | larry++ | S (3 files):
more s/async/start/ tweaks
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TimToady s/Subscribable/StageManagement/ # oh wait, that's longer... 16:11
Stager is shorter but less clear 16:12
though $*STAGER.cue({...}) is clearer by context 16:13
$*CUER.cue is really short, but 'cuer' is a funny looking word 16:15
TimToady is thinking about huffman coding in a larger sense than just the program; we probably won't type Subscribable all that many times inside the program, but we'll be writing about it all the time, so something shorter would be better for that 16:18
benabik .o( Why did you misspell CURE? )
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sjn TimToady: huffman is good, but I hope you also can find some love for the conveyance of understanding. ("making it easy to understand|teach|guess the right word") :) 16:21
sjn wonders if $*DIRECTOR.cue would be confusing 16:24
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jnthn evening 16:27
I see my "let's get consensus on what to do wiht the new/old S17" was quickly ignored...
But happy to see lots of effort going in.
The "turn just some of the _ into -" is the only one I absolutely know I'm reverting. :) 16:28
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jnthn But it may be obviated by another refactor anyway... 16:29
TimToady which I've already said I like :)
jnthn Yes, I saw that :)
I don't feel strongly either way, but the combinatorics argument is a good one. 16:30
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jnthn The rest I need to read the patches, but I'm exhausted after late night arriving (Stockholm airport decided to deliver luggage crazy slow) and early morning (teaching located a good bit out of the center, and wanted time to set stuff up, though clueless reception soon hosed that plan...) So probably will leave that for tomorrow or so. :) 16:31
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jnthn "cue" is quite a nice word 16:32
It puns nicely with queue ;)
TimToady indeed
jnthn So even if you mishear it, you still understand what it does :)
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TimToady I suppose it could be $*PLAYLIST.cue for the younger set :) 16:35
jnthn Wait, which contextual are we renamin? :) 16:36
*renaming
I actually don't think S*SCHEDULER needs huffmanizing, fwiw
'cus you're not meant to interact with it directly in the common case
But rather use things that use it.
TimToady no, scheduler is fine
jnthn OK
TimToady it's subscribable that is rather too heavy 16:37
jnthn Oh
Yes, I agree
TimToady and I think we'll be talking about them all the time
jnthn i didn't steal Observable from Rx 'cus I knew there was no chance of us sticking to the rest of the API :)
TimToady since people aren't that up-to-date on the paradigm
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jnthn So I figured I'd leave that free for anybody who wants to make a module that is an API-alike :) 16:38
TimToady well, Feeder isn't too bad from the standpoint of we might implement feeds with this
jnthn Oh, hmmm
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TimToady anyway, not in a rush, but just something to toss about and weigh 16:38
jnthn This is extremely un-fully-thought-out but I had wondered just a tiny bit if we might want feeds to be a kinda monad-y construct where the type of the first thing controls everything that happens next 16:39
And that we get rid of the slurpy and actually make it method based
So
TimToady sure, if ; is a monadoid, so is ==>
jnthn @foo ==> grep { ... } ==> map { ... }
Is really
@foo.grep({ ... }).map({ ... })
Because I *really* want it for subscribable chains too 16:40
But the slurpy stuff makes writing the candidates hairy :(
TimToady like I said, we need better combinators
syntactically speaking
jnthn Yeah
I just noticed that making chains of ==> sugar for chained method calls might be a really nice thing to do
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jnthn Because it means "do it in the language of the thing we currently have" 16:41
And is a LOT prettier than unspace ;)
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jnthn And I think APIs where you chain method calls are common enough that people will make good use of this outside of Perl 6... :) 16:42
um
I mean
outside of core stuff
TimToady though if we leave out the . people will get confused, so maybe @foo ==> .grep ==> .map
jnthn Told ya I was tired :P
I don't know that it's confusing
TimToady well, there .= already
jnthn Because you know the invocant is the last thing...well, "know" :) 16:43
FROGGS hello o/
jnthn I would live with ==> .grep I guess
I think I'd just prefer it as the default...
TimToady maybe we just need to define STDIN for everything we can run :) 16:44
jnthn ;)
TimToady shower &
FROGGS .oO( TimToady ==> shower { /ö } ==> grep { -> $towel { ... } } # Ohh noes! stub towel executed! ) 16:51
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FROGGS damn it, should have included SOAP::Lite 16:54
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[Coke] "followable" 17:45
trackable?
recordable? 17:46
TimToady eventual :) 17:47
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jnthn Pushy ))) 17:59
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TimToady Reactionary :) 18:01
.oO(actors and reactors)
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TimToady leaders and followers 18:03
one "follows" the news as well
diakopter Befriendable 18:04
Stalkable 18:05
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geekosaur Amiable; extra credit if you can get Aimable to fall out... 18:07
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TimToady if your feed is coming from an antenna, you tune your receiver 18:15
diakopter Transceivable 18:16
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TimToady Intranceivable! 18:16
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anocelot "You keep using that word..." 18:18
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TimToady anyhoo, if we implement ==> with subscribables, I think we could safely steal 'does Feed' to represent the underlying role, then pick some appropriate verb to subscribe/follow/track 18:21
diakopter Edible 18:22
Bitable
arnsholt anocelot: Incidentally, is an anocelot a negated ocelot? =)
TimToady .melikes 18:23
timotimo is Tasty
diakopter Potable
anocelot likes potable
TimToady .yu
.yum
diakopter Potatable
TimToady isn't potable only about fluids though?
anocelot Well, if it can blend... 18:24
perigrin I think anything you can carry is potable.
TimToady it's really about what you want to eat, not what doesn't make you sick
anocelot savory
TimToady .want
anocelot droolworthy
colomon wonders if jnthn++ would be more comfortable with drink analogies. ;) 18:25
TimToady want cookie!
'does Tap' 18:26
anocelot feeds TimToady Oreo
TimToady .draw
.order 18:27
jnthn hahaha
does Pump
Like a beer pump
:D
"message pump" is actually what Windows calls it, iirc :)
TimToady pump definitely has 'push' connotations to 18:28
*too
Pump.tap() maybe