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thou ugexe: FYI: this works like I want it to. gist.github.com/softmoth/1da0f8e722e98c2363bf 02:13
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thou ugexe: regarding tap/act, I still contend that you've got a race there. See commented-out .act() calls in this code ^; the note() calls for stderr and stdout will overwrite each other. 02:14
I have to use another channel to properly merge the lines. I believe your process code has the same issue. 02:15
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thou erm, sorry, nevermind! I do think it's still a potential problem, but this one is due to my running multiple threads a the same time 02:16
I'd need to do some random sleeping in the act() closures to test my hunch 02:17
jobs
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ugexe if i want the lines properly merged, i access stdout and stderr directly. i would not use $merge 03:01
but thats assuming im using one persons definition of proper
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ugexe your problem is because you are calling say/note whatever inside your tap/act 03:05
if multiple threads are printing out $*OUT, you will get what appears to be incorrectly merged lines 03:07
if you are really trying to merge the output to the terminal, that is a different thing. a blog post that shows the general idea ugexe.com/create-a-perl6-terminal-progress-bar/ 03:11
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ugexe but you have to make choices. if you receive a line of text without a line break at the end, and then another process fires its own tap to print, what do you do?
peteretep Is there a quick overview of the implications of that choice?
ugexe zef::cli::statusbar puts a lock inside $*OUT's print method 03:15
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TimToady checking out breakfast at the Abba, then off to the Alhambra 05:00
we have one free ticket if anyone happens to be here and awake enough to leave 8:00 or so 05:01
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ShimmerFairy TimToady: how many more stops until you're home (or if not that, your next destination)? A quick look for Alhambra places at least two in Spain and California, so it's not like I could guess :) 05:19
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emilbarton hi, why does $str.eval returns "method not found for invocant of class string"? 05:36
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ShimmerFairy it's spelled EVAL in Perl 6 now. so it'd be EVAL($str) or $str.EVAL :) 05:39
emilbarton ok thanks
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TimToady ShimmerFairy: "The" Alhambra is in Granada, Spain 05:55
ShimmerFairy ah, I somehow missed the "the" there :)
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ShimmerFairy By the way, I think I'll be ready to push my val() and allomorphic types as a branch tonight :) . The only main issue is that my implementation of IntStr dies on bigints, and I'm not sure how to fix that. 06:05
(The only thing I can think of is a fallback Int attribute, and then reimplementing all of Int's methods in IntStr, but ick) 06:06
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ShimmerFairy m: say "".Numeric # this is surprising, and feels wrong to me 06:09
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«0␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 36ea47: OUTPUT«0␤»
nine ShimmerFairy: that's probably Perl 5 heritage 06:12
ShimmerFairy nine: replacing .Numeric with a val() call in my code caught that in a test, and I'm quite OK with saying "but I don't see a number in that string" :) 06:13
(replacing the implementation of Str.Numeric, that is)
dalek kudo/glr: cb9b821 | FROGGS++ | t/01-sanity/19-say.t:
remove test of say() that does not work with .gist, laben++
 06:15
kudo/glr: cf3b24c | timotimo++ | t/01-sanity/19-say.t:
Revert "remove test of say() that does not work with .gist, laben++"

Was supposed to be on the glr branch
This reverts commit cb9b821b08095c6d4c1157085e7fc2084f2dd72d.
kudo/glr: 5ba44fc | hoelzro++ | tools/build/NQP_REVISION:
Bump NQP_REVISION

For close_stdin fix in MoarVM
kudo/glr: 78b8f29 | (Stefan Seifert)++ | tools/build/NQP_REVISION:
Merge branch 'nom' into glr
ShimmerFairy nine: I could see it might've been some sort of guarantee for ?$string === ?$string.Numeric.Stringy , back when "0" was False :)
nine Darn...really have to leave for the office now 06:16
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masak morning, #perl6 07:05
ShimmerFairy o/ 07:07
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laben hello #perl6 07:13
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ShimmerFairy o/ laben 07:19
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laben as i feared, Template::Mustache doesn't work because the grammar or the actions fail to create the correct result. now, where do i sign up for a crash course in grammars and actions? 07:56
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nine laben: doc.perl6.org/language/grammars is quite good 07:57
laben nine: do you know if Grammars and/or Actions internally use some sort of push that would need to be adjusted for glr? 07:59
DrForr laben: I've got a pretty extensive grammar/actions combo in the ANTLR module in the ecosystem.
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FROGGS laben: do you get error messages you could gist? 08:05
yoleaux 30 Aug 2015 21:00Z <laben> FROGGS: the LAST phaser doesnt seem to fire when the last execution is finished with next, see "for 1 {LAST {say "last"};next}"
FROGGS ohh, the LAST phaser thing might be some very easily fixable...
laben just a quick question, the TOP action is called last, after every other action has been called, right? 08:06
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nine laben: my Apache-To-Nginx seems to parse just fine and that's a largish grammar. From what I can see, there's just a couple of GLR fixes necessary in the converter code itself. 08:08
FROGGS: do you by chance still have my short micro USB cable? 08:09
JimmyZ isn't the TOP first? 08:11
laben somehow an action doesnt get called, which means the correct ast is never made. let's see why... 08:12
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FROGGS nine: damn, it was yours? 08:18
ó.ò
I convinced tadzik to take it -.-
nine This...may even be an advantage. You aren't coming to YAPC are you? 08:19
FROGGS JimmyZ: the TOP token is called first, so the TOP action method is called last
nine: I'm not, correct
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nine tadzik may be, so I may even have a chance of getting it back ;) 08:19
FROGGS :S
nine: Sorry
nine No worry.
tadzik nine: I'm not, sorry :( 08:20
nine: but I'm still in Zurich :)
if you want to catch me
nine I'm already back in Linz
tadzik ah :/
nine I should have charged my phone in Switzerland at least once. Then I'd have noticed the missing cable. 08:21
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nine Curse you large battery! 08:21
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tadzik :) 08:22
DrForr DAMN YOU FOR BEING SO EFFICIENT 08:23
nine Maybe I should just give in and register a Google account to suck my battery empty in a day ;) 08:24
laben gosh, the bottom action doesn't get called even once on glr, that's why it does not create any ast. at the same time, why the heck is nom calling the same action 2 times, with the same argument, when there's evidently only one occurrence?
nine laben: sounds like we overcompensated? 08:25
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laben seems like it's called twice because it's used in an assertion. but the assertion totally doesn't get called in glr. what's going on? 08:30
need to go now, have a good day #perl6 08:42
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lizmat messages? 08:51
yoleaux 30 Aug 2015 10:39Z <nine> lizmat: I figured out what's wrong with zip-latest.t! It's just that every way we tried to fix the issue hit an underlying bug. Array.clone re-uses the same $!reified buffer for the clone and List.from-iterator creates a new $!reified but uses the same scalar containers for the values. So they are still linked.
lizmat .tell nine Good to know what caused the issue... :-) 08:52
yoleaux lizmat: I'll pass your message to nine.
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nine lizmat: It's also fixed by now :) 08:52
yoleaux 08:52Z <lizmat> nine: Good to know what caused the issue... :-)
lizmat cool!
nine There's now only 2 GLR related spec test failures: Sequences do not yet throw the correct exceptions on invalid input and one of the advent tests is not properly GLRed yet. 08:53
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lizmat I saw 5: 1 of them is a known issue on OS X with IO::Socket::INET 08:54
the other two I'm not sure about
nine t/spec/S02-literals/numeric.t fails also on nom 08:55
ShimmerFairy++ fixed numeric.t to actually test what it's claiming to test and that's why it now shows failures. They should just be todo'd
cdc .tell [Coke] about irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2015-08-29#i_11138242, I use for each arguments of a Bash command-line: sub escape-arg(Str $arg is copy) { if $arg ~~ s:g/([ ' ' | \' | \\ | <:Control> ])/{ $0.ord.fmt('\\u%04x') }/ { [~] <$'>, $arg, <'> } else { $arg } } 08:56
yoleaux cdc: I'll pass your message to [Coke].
nine many-processes-no-close-stdin.t was also a nom issue that has since been fixed by hoelzro++ (NQP bump was missing)
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ShimmerFairy sorry for not TODOing those tests, by the way; I think my idea was "oh, I messed around in that part of the grammar recently, I could fix that soon!" and then didn't :P 09:00
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ShimmerFairy m: say :10<-42> # this is how I guessed you negate adverbial numbers, but apparently I'm wrong :) (though to be fair the spec says nothing about a negative number of this form) 09:13
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling /tmp/jP8rFHCpOz␤Malformed radix number␤at /tmp/jP8rFHCpOz:1␤------> 3say :10<7⏏5-42> # this is how I guessed you negate␤ expecting any of:␤ number in radix notation␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling /tmp/zkxkvTeU3r␤Malformed radix number␤at /tmp/zkxkvTeU3r:1␤------> 3say :10<7⏏5-42> # this is how I guessed you negate␤ expecting any of:␤ number in radix notation␤»
RabidGravy If I need to reference a type 'B' in a role 'F' that may be consumed in term by 'F' is doing something like "self ~~ ::('B')" in the role valid way of not having to load the class (and get blown out for circular dependency)? 09:16
ShimmerFairy do you want ::?CLASS, per chance? 09:17
RabidGravy no I don't
the role may be consumed by a variety of things, it needs to check if something is one of them 09:18
(actually self was a bad example there as the actual code doesn't do that) 09:19
ShimmerFairy you can always stub the class(es) in question, and hopefully be able to use them well enough in the role. 09:20
RabidGravy the actual code is something more like: 09:23
m: role F { method b(Mu:D $f) { say $f ~~ ::("B"); } }; class B does F { }; B.new.b(B.new)
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«True␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«True␤»
RabidGravy where obviously the circumstances of the creation of the second B are somewhat more complicated 09:24
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RabidGravy I'm going to go with it and see what happens 09:27
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nine ShimmerFairy: could you please todo them now? I'm not sure about the protocol there. For example, do we require RT tickets for todos? 09:45
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ShimmerFairy nah, I'll get to it. Just a case of focusing on other stuff, but it'd only take a second. :) 09:48
nine That's even better :)
Btw. sorry if I've been a bit grumpy about this. Past few weeks have been exhausting. 09:49
ShimmerFairy That's alright :) 09:51
dalek ast: 6b38ee7 | ShimmerFairy++ | S02-literals/numeric.t:
TODO a couple tests.

  nine++ for catching that they needed it.		 09:56
ast/glr: 8fe513c | ShimmerFairy++ | S02-literals/allomorphic.t:
Updating allomorphic tests.

In particular coercing the allomorphic types for 'is' tests, since allomorphic types probably shouldn't implement === for an allomorphic type and one of its component types.		 10:04
ast/glr: d47db92 | ShimmerFairy++ | S02-literals/listquote.t:
Fix accidental pure string expectation

Since the test in question isn't meant to test allomorphic types, I changed the tested key/value pair to not make an allomorphic type.
ast/glr: 6b38ee7 | ShimmerFairy++ | S02-literals/numeric.t:
TODO a couple tests.

  nine++ for catching that they needed it.
ast/glr: ba3393d | (Stefan Seifert)++ | S02-literals/ (3 files):
Merge branch 'master' into glr
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nine m: (1, 2, 6 ... *)[5] 11:05
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«Unable to deduce arithmetic or geometric sequence from 1,2,6 (or did you really mean '..'?)␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/imuAJihaAN:1␤␤Actually thrown at:␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/imuAJihaAN:1␤␤»
GLRelia ( no output )
ShimmerFairy m: say (1, 2, 6 ... *)[5] 11:10
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«Unable to deduce arithmetic or geometric sequence from 1,2,6 (or did you really mean '..'?)␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/ZD7R2u6Sq4:1␤␤Actually thrown at:␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/ZD7R2u6Sq4:1␤␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«Nil␤»
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dalek line-Perl6/glr: e508f48 | (Stefan Seifert)++ | t/0 (2 files):
Adopt GLR semantics in test suite
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ChoHag Is a capture consisting of all the arguments passed to a function available without explicitely capturing it? 11:20
timotimo no, for performance reasons 11:21
i think
hm, though perhas with the nqp ops
m: sub test($a, $b, $c?) { say nqp::usecapture(); } 11:22
camelia ( no output )
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«===============================================================================␤The use of nqp::operations has been deprecated for non-CORE code. Please␤change your code to not use these non-portable functions. If you really want␤to keep using nqp:…»
timotimo m: use nqp; sub test($a, $b, $c?) { say nqp::usecapture(); }; test(1, 2);
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«Cannot find method 'gist': no method cache and no .^find_method␤ in sub test at /tmp/7OQ5pmkqAg:1␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/7OQ5pmkqAg:1␤␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«Cannot find method 'gist': no method cache and no .^find_method␤ in sub test at /tmp/XkS6IdVbWZ:1␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/XkS6IdVbWZ:1␤␤»
timotimo that gives you a very low-level capture
you'd inspect it with nqp::captureposarg and whatever lets you grab the named arguments 11:23
ChoHag Is there any other way to call another function with the same arguments as passed in to this one?
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timotimo m: sub foo($a, $b) { say "$a $b" }; sub bar($a, $b) { &foo.callsame }; bar(1, 2) 11:25
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«Method 'callsame' not found for invocant of class 'Sub'␤ in sub bar at /tmp/m7g9cyiqGC:1␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/m7g9cyiqGC:1␤␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«Method 'callsame' not found for invocant of class 'Sub'␤ in sub bar at /tmp/SGvANG8O3S:1␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/SGvANG8O3S:1␤␤»
timotimo hm
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RabidGravy great, a bug report for a twenty year old module against perl 5.14.4 on cygwin 11:40
bless their little pointy heads
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hoelzro o/ #perl6 11:47
nine Good morning, hoelzro! 11:48
hoelzro afternoon, nine!
Ven \o, hoelzro , nine , and #perl6
hoelzro ahoy Ven! 11:49
BooK just looked at jnthn's talk in yapc asia. pretty cool 11:53
but the code examples do not work for me (just did a `rakudobrew build moar`) 11:54
is there a place where I can peek at the complete code?
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nine Doesn't his talk contain the features that are only implemented on the glr branch? 11:54
_itz_ I think race is only in glr 11:59
timotimo aye 12:00
BooK ah ok 12:01
switching branches then 12:02
meanwhile, doing my first PR to perl6/doc 12:03
nine \o/
hoelzro BooK++
Ven BooK++ :)
dalek c: c29b488 | (Philippe Bruhat (BooK))++ | lib/Type/Supply.pod:
Fix syntax error
c: 64d55fb | FROGGS++ | lib/Type/Supply.pod:
Merge pull request #120 from book/patch-1

Fix syntax error
FROGGS BooK++
RabidGravy yay! BooK! 12:05
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BooK I fondly remember my first patch to libwww, it was marginally bigger than this one (swapping two characters) :-) 12:10
timotimo pretty cool, BooK :) 12:11
welcome to the doc! :)
BooK mmm, there are others of the same kind in that page 12:12
gotta catch them all!
Ven who documents the tests, who tests the documents
moritz BooK: I've invited you to the perl6 org on github 12:13
BooK: if you accept, you can push to the doc repo (and a few others) directly
nine And I was just gonna say that BooK needs a commit bit :)
moritz nine: you're too sloooow :-) 12:14
BooK thanks 12:15
I'll drop out of the github interface then :-)
RabidGravy BooK, as a complete aside I was looking for a picture of you and Eric in those little cars in Braga the other day. That was ten years ago :-O 12:18
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BooK oh I found that picture again recently 12:21
I think it was taken by DrHyde
cognominal BooK, time to invinte Ven for P3
Ven mmh? 12:22
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BooK Ven: patch.pm/p3/ # liz & wendy included 12:22
cognominal maybe he can share a ride with liz and wendy back from Granada
BooK interesting: to filter a chunk of code through perl6. I need to do !perl6 - 12:23
otherwise I seem to see the output of the REPL
cognominal that is the picture with mongueurs on tricycle?
Ven I'm afraid I'm at school on the 12th
BooK it's a Saturday 12:24
Ven yes. I'm at school that day
BooK claim you're from a religion that doesn't allow you to work on inconvenient days 12:25
FROGGS Ven: but that's like... weekend :o)
cognominal and prescribes -O fun, that would be the Perl 6 religion.
Ven FROGGS: yes. my school often makes me work saturdays and sundays (so basically, 13 days in a row, from 9am to 8pm. I have to sacrifice a weekend every 3 weekends for school)
BooK I think the religion for Monday is Garfiedinity, but that might actually be just an instance of Lazyness (which prescribes working on Any day) 12:26
if you have to make ritual sacrifices, it is a religion 12:27
Ven I had an incredibly hard time to convince my school letting me go to SPW was a good idea, took me more than a week
dalek pan style="color: #395be5">perl6-examples: 45bcffa | (Steve Mynott)++ | categories/cookbook/02numbers/02-05-roman-numerals.pl:
import Roman numerals from Rosetta Code
 12:30
BooK my daughters look forward liz and wendy's arrival: klonk.bruhat.net/wendy+flore.jpg
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FROGGS Ven: 13 days in a row is horrible! 12:31
Ven BooK: your daughter seems to be pretty tall already
FROGGS: it gets long and tiring, yes :(
FROGGS .oO( 'oribleaux! )
:/
cognominal is it 42? 12:33
Ven no 12:34
not important anyways
BooK RabidGravy: not sure you can find the original on the interwebs, but my notes say it was taken by DrHyde
articles.mongueurs.net/comptes-rend...closer.png # this version is online, and you're on it too!
cognominal so you haet yve not found the answer to the big question :_
RabidGravy BooK :) I'd forgotten about that 12:35
poor Greggy 12:36
cognominal Guillame still got hair on this photo.
* Guillaume 12:37
Ven ha! that matz one is great
cognominal btw, it seems that Matz was in person in yapc asia. 12:38
Ven really? that's nice to hear
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BooK didn't 12:40
andreoss $ time perl6 prob060.pl
real 91m35.536s
$ time perl prob060.pl5
real 0m4.815s
timotimo oh my
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RabidGravy oops 12:40
timotimo andreoss: any chance you could try that on rakudo/glr? (and do the necessary modifications to the code, of course)
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RabidGravy on the bright side there is room for improvement 12:40
timotimo yeah, but someone has to go and do that :P 12:41
cognominal ven, second guest speaker yapcasia.org/2015/ scroll down
andreoss m: say 91 * 60 / 4.8
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«1137.5␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«1137.5␤»
BooK wonders if it would be possible to mark code examples and expected output in a special way, so that some test could check the examples work with the current perl6?
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Ven cognominal: indeed! 12:42
BooK pugs had something like this, and executable spec
andreoss timotimo: ok
timotimo thank you very much!
andreoss can i install glr with rakudobrew? 12:43
_itz_ BooK: that would be very useful
BooK andreoss: I did a checkout glr in ~/.rakudobrew/moar-nom
_itz_: is the doc in perl5 pod or perl6 pod? 12:44
ShimmerFairy mostly POD 5, for now
timotimo with rakudobrew you can use "triple" 12:45
rakudobrew triple glr master master
or something like that
BooK ".'.IO.watch.act( { say "$^file changed" } ); 12:46
that looks weird
should I remove the ".'. at the beginning?
Ven BooK: the . at the beginning means "$_." 12:47
_itz_ m: say ".".IO.WHAT
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«(IO::Path)␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«(IO::Path)␤»
Ven m: $_ = 'abc'; say .uc 12:48
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«ABC␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«ABC␤»
BooK right, so one of the quotes is incorrect
m: say ".'.IO.WHAT
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling /tmp/LTGGuk9CCD␤Unable to parse expression in double quotes; couldn't find final '"' ␤at /tmp/LTGGuk9CCD:1␤------> 3say ".'.IO.WHAT7⏏5<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ argument list␤ doubl…»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling /tmp/pe6pzycVId␤Unable to parse expression in double quotes; couldn't find final '"' ␤at /tmp/pe6pzycVId:1␤------> 3say ".'.IO.WHAT7⏏5<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ argument list␤ doubl…»
cognominal one typo here and there is a good pedagogical device to force the reader to think. 12:49
BooK I have no doubt the doc is perfect and the mistakes are there for the only purpose of my education :-) 12:50
dalek c: c45f662 | (Philippe Bruhat (BooK))++ | lib/Type/Supply.pod:
fix more syntax errors
BooK maybe it's time to read CONTRIBUTING.md 12:51
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dalek pan style="color: #395be5">perl6-examples: e83ca50 | (Steve Mynott)++ | categories/cookbook/08-file-contents/08-0 (3 files):
three LHF file contents examples
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andreoss m: say $*VM 13:11
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«moar (2015.7.108.g.7.e.9.f.29.e)␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«moar (2015.7.108.g.7.e.9.f.29.e)␤»
andreoss how do i distinguish glr from nom? 13:12
FROGGS andreoss: look at the nick of the bot
andreoss m: say $*PERL 13:13
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«Perl 6 (6.Advent)␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«Perl 6 (6.Advent)␤»
FROGGS andreoss: glr itself is just a branch, so it won't show up in a version string 13:14
but...
m: say ::('Seq') ~~ Failure ?? "good ol' nom" !! 'GLR'
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«good ol' nom␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«GLR␤»
andreoss m: my @x := grep Int, 1..10; 13:17
camelia ( no output )
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«Type check failed in binding; expected 'Positional' but got 'Seq'␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/uN6Fhkj1do:1␤␤»
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andreoss how do i port my code with := to GLR? I get a bunch of Seq errors 13:21
moritz andreoss: if you need to access @x by index, it's best to add .list to the expression on the right-hand side 13:22
andreoss: if you want to iterate over it, the nicest fix is
m: my \x := grep Int, 1..10; .say for x;
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤»
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andreoss >This Seq has already been iterated, and its values consumed 13:29
moritz if you need to iterate it twice or more often, use .list to get a proper List 13:30
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andreoss i'm actually iterating on copy 13:31
FROGGS andreoss: are you still using binding by any chance? 13:35
m: my @x = grep(Int, 1..10).list; .say for @x; 13:36
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤»
FROGGS m: my @x := grep(Int, 1..10).list; .say for @x;
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤»
FROGGS ahh, hmmm, so that does not trigger the said msg
m: my @x = grep(Int, 1..10); .say for @x;
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤»
FROGGS hmmm, no idea
moritz andreoss: if you want help, you need to show us some code that produces the error 13:37
FROGGS m: my @x = grep(Int, 1..10); .say for @x; .say for @x
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤»
timotimo m: my $x = grep(Int, 1..10); .say for $x.list; .say for $x.list;
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤»
FROGGS m: my @x := grep(Int, 1..10); .say for @x; .say for @x
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«Type check failed in binding; expected 'Positional' but got 'Seq'␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/bG3kvFqvWg:1␤␤»
FROGGS there we go
moritz m: my $x = grep(Int, 1..10); .say for $x.List; .say for $x.List
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«1␤2␤3␤4␤5␤6␤7␤8␤9␤10␤This Seq has already been iterated, and its values consumed␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/gFHUIlm6Tt:1␤␤»
FROGGS dont use assignment if you want to have a proper copy
timotimo oh, .List not .list
moritz .list caches, .List not 13:38
timotimo 'k
moritz so, depends on what you want
timotimo .so depends on what you want? but don't you always get a Bool from .so? :p
moritz but I haven't seen a good use case for either while still keeping the original Seq around
FROGGS I guess Seqs are like Junctions... you want to collapse them as early as possible 13:39
moritz or pass them around without storing them in a variable
timotimo i'd rather say "you don't want to let them loose on the program" than the other thing
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andreoss paste.debian.net/309804/ 13:40
nine You don't need .list if you assign to an @array anyway
andreoss feels like i have to unlearn some Perl 6 already 13:41
timotimo a tiny bit, yeah :| 13:42
moritz Variable '@x' is not declared │········
at glr-andreoss:60 │········
nine I think there's just fewer reasons to use := in the first place, which I see as a good thing.
timotimo agreed
andreoss paste.debian.net/309806/ 13:43
RabidGravy m: say "Foo".WHAT.^name; # is there a better way of doing this if I must get the name of the type as a string? 13:47
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«Str␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«Str␤»
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tadzik I don't think so 13:47
nine m: say "Foo".^name;
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«Str␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«Str␤»
tadzik but why do you?
oh :)
timotimo m: say Str.gist; say Str.Str; say Str.perl
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«(Str)␤Use of uninitialized value of type Str in string context in block <unit> at /tmp/zKBwRBUMzH:1␤␤Str␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«(Str)␤Use of uninitialized value of type Str in string context in block <unit> at /tmp/qlxNzApGbY:1␤␤Str␤»
timotimo m: say Str.perl
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«Str␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«Str␤»
moritz likes $obj.^name best
timotimo m: my $foo = Str; say $foo.^name 13:48
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«Str␤»
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«Str␤»
timotimo ah
m: my $foo = Str; say $foo.VAR.^name
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«Scalar␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«Scalar␤»
timotimo m: my $foo = Str; say $foo.VAR.name
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«$foo␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«$foo␤»
timotimo so that's how you get that
m: sub what's-my-name(\foo) { say foo.name }; my $foo = Str; what's-my-name($foo) 13:49
camelia rakudo-moar 5ba44f: OUTPUT«Method 'name' not found for invocant of class 'Str'␤ in sub what's-my-name at /tmp/K5zwpfvq_2:1␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/K5zwpfvq_2:1␤␤»
GLRelia rakudo-moar 78b8f2: OUTPUT«Method 'name' not found for invocant of class 'Str'␤ in sub what's-my-name at /tmp/XQHOFjqi3q:1␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/XQHOFjqi3q:1␤␤»
pink_mist foo.VAR.name surely?