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BenGoldberg m: say Numeric.^methods; 00:00
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«(log log10 exp roots succ pred)␤»
BenGoldberg m: say Numeric.new.succ; 00:01
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Memory allocation failed; could not allocate 58208 bytes␤»
BenGoldberg m: say Numeric.succ;
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Use of uninitialized value of type Numeric in numeric context in any at gen/moar/m-Metamodel.nqp line 1718␤1␤»
AlexDaniel BenGoldberg: LTA 00:02
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BenGoldberg I wonder if there's a missing :D somewhere. 00:02
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sortiz BenGoldberg, In Numeric. github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/nom/...ic.pm#L28, Indeed missing! 00:25
BenGoldberg :) 00:31
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BenGoldberg m: say Mu.new; 00:41
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Mu.new␤»
BenGoldberg m: say so Mu.new;
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«True␤»
BenGoldberg m: class Foo is Mu { }; say Foo.new; 00:42
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Foo.new␤»
BenGoldberg m: class Foo is Mu { }; say so Foo.new;
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«True␤»
BenGoldberg m: say Numeric.^find_method('Bool') 00:44
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Bool␤»
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skids Who's Ward? :-) 01:03
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BenGoldberg is confused by something. 01:13
I *think* that these should produce the same output:
m: say map *.perl, Numeric.^find_method('Bool').candidates;
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«(method Bool (Mu $: *%_) { #`(Method|40928744) ... })␤»
BenGoldberg m: say map *.perl, .^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric; 01:14
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«(method Bool (Mu $: *%_) { #`(Method|39740968) ... } method Bool (Numeric:D $: *%_) { #`(Method|50390536) ... })␤»
flussence m: say map *.perl, (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); 01:24
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«((method Bool (Mu $: *%_) { #`(Method|44369480) ... }, method Bool (Numeric:D $: *%_) { #`(Method|55019352) ... }))␤»
flussence hm, now I'm confused too 01:25
BenGoldberg m: my $m = Numeric.^find_method('Bool'); $m( Numeric.new ).say; 01:26
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«True␤»
Hotkeys m: say Numeric.^find_method('Bool').candidates.elems; say (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric).elems 01:29
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«1␤1␤»
Hotkeys m: say Numeric.^find_method('Bool').candidates.elems; say (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric)[0].elems
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«1␤2␤»
BenGoldberg Ooh, it's producing a one element list with a two element list in it. 01:30
Hotkeys m: say Numeric.^find_method('Bool').candidates; say (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric)
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«(Bool)␤((Bool Bool))␤»
Hotkeys seems like
BenGoldberg m: my @c = !(.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); say +@c 01:31
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«1␤»
BenGoldberg m: my @c = !(.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); say @c
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«[False]␤»
BenGoldberg m: my @c = !(.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); say @c[0]
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«False␤»
BenGoldberg m: my @c = !(.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); say @c[0].WHAT
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«(Bool)␤»
BenGoldberg m: my @c := !(.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); say @c[0].WHAT
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Type check failed in binding; expected Positional but got Bool␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/ja_AnGGOkn line 1␤␤» 01:32
BenGoldberg m: my @c := (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); say @c[0].WHAT
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«(List)␤»
BenGoldberg m: my @c := (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); say @c[0].elems;
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«2␤»
BenGoldberg m: my @c0 := (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); my @c := @c0[0]; say +@c; 01:33
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«2␤»
BenGoldberg m: my @c0 := (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); my @c := @c0[0]; say .perl for 2c;
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling /tmp/OB4HS1fIDP␤Missing semicolon␤at /tmp/OB4HS1fIDP:1␤------> 3meric); my @c := @c0[0]; say .perl for 27⏏5c;␤»
BenGoldberg m: my @c0 := (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); my @c := @c0[0]; say .perl for @c;
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«method Bool (Mu $: *%_) { #`(Method|38913848) ... }␤method Bool (Numeric:D $: *%_) { #`(Method|49563264) ... }␤»
Hotkeys m: Numeric.^find_method('Bool').say
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Bool␤»
Hotkeys m: Numeric.^find_method('Bool').perl.say
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«method Bool (Mu $: | is raw) { #`(Method|48415024) ... }␤»
Hotkeys m: Numeric.^find_method('Bool').candidates.perl.say
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«(method Bool (Mu $: *%_) { #`(Method|53024216) ... },)␤»
skids m: say map *.perl, .^find_method("Bool").candidates for Numeric, Bool 01:34
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«(method Bool (Mu $: *%_) { #`(Method|67184200) ... })␤(method Bool (Bool:D $: *%_) { #`(Method|67725320) ... } method Bool (Bool:U $: *%_) { #`(Method|67725472) ... })␤»
skids m: say map *.perl, .^find_method("Bool").candidates for IterationEnd
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Method 'map' not found for invocant of class 'Mu'␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/CryDmE5hf8 line 1␤␤»
BenGoldberg m: my @c0 := (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); my @c := @c0[0]; my $n = Numeric.new; for @c -> \cand { say cand($n) }
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling /tmp/u2AMVIuL6l␤Variable '&cand' is not declared␤at /tmp/u2AMVIuL6l:1␤------> 3$n = Numeric.new; for @c -> \cand { say 7⏏5cand($n) }␤»
BenGoldberg m: my @c0 := (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); my @c := @c0[0]; my $n = Numeric.new; for @c -> $cand { say $cand($n) }
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«True␤Memory allocation failed; could not allocate 82944 bytes␤»
Hotkeys m: say map*.perl, (.^find_method('Bool').candidates with Numeric) 01:35
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling /tmp/0eGNb8HzJm␤Calling map() will never work with any of these multi signatures:␤ (&code, + is raw)␤at /tmp/0eGNb8HzJm:1␤------> 3say 7⏏5map*.perl, (.^find_method('Bool').candid␤»
BenGoldberg m: my @c0 := (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); my @c := @c0[0]; my $n = Numeric.new; $c[0]($n);
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling /tmp/73EY4XvyS0␤Variable '$c' is not declared. Did you mean '@c'?␤at /tmp/73EY4XvyS0:1␤------> 3; my @c := @c0[0]; my $n = Numeric.new; 7⏏5$c[0]($n);␤»
Hotkeys m: say map *.perl, (.^find_method('Bool').candidates with Numeric)
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«()␤»
BenGoldberg m: my @c0 := (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); my @c := @c0[0]; my $n = Numeric.new; @c[0]($n);
camelia ( no output )
BenGoldberg m: my @c0 := (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); my @c := @c0[0]; my $n = Numeric.new; @c[1]($n);
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Memory allocation failed; could not allocate 82944 bytes␤»
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BenGoldberg m: my @c0 := (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); my @c := @c0[0]; say .perl for @c; 01:36
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«method Bool (Mu $: *%_) { #`(Method|50939704) ... }␤method Bool (Numeric:D $: *%_) { #`(Method|61589120) ... }␤»
BenGoldberg m: my @c0 := (.^find_method('Bool').candidates for Numeric); my @c := @c0[0]; say @c[1].file;
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«gen/moar/m-CORE.setting␤»
BenGoldberg Drat... that's annoying.
skids m: say map *.perl, .^find_method("Bool").candidates for Numeric, IterationEnd
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«(method Bool (Mu $: *%_) { #`(Method|49890952) ... })␤»
BenGoldberg ponder submittting a bug report, to the effect that the genenerated setting ought to have the equivilant of '#file' in it, indicating the file from which it was generated. 01:39
m: Numeric.new != 0; 01:40
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«WARNINGS for /tmp/J5pUO24vUB:␤Useless use of "!=" in expression ".new != 0" in sink context (line 1)␤Memory allocation failed; could not allocate 61472 bytes␤»
BenGoldberg m: Numeric.new == 0; 01:41
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«WARNINGS for /tmp/3oYjw3Btyy:␤Useless use of "==" in expression ".new == 0" in sink context (line 1)␤Memory allocation failed; could not allocate 61456 bytes␤»
skids m: say map {$_.WHAT}, .^find_method("Bool").candidates for Numeric 01:44
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«((Method) (Method))␤»
skids Hotkeys: yep, as you saw ^^ 01:45
BenGoldberg I think I might possibly have found it: 01:48
m: role Foo { method Foo { self } }; proto sub infix:<eq-like>(Mu $?, Mu $?) is pure { * }; multi sub infix:<eq-like>($?) { Bool::True }; multi sub infix:<eq-like>(\a, \b) { a.Foo eq-like b.Foo }; say Foo.new eq-like Foo.new;
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Memory allocation failed; could not allocate 118816 bytes␤»
BenGoldberg Compare this with: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/nom/...ic.pm#L248
skids $? ... ? 01:52
BenGoldberg No idea, just copy-pasting ;)
skids Oh, optional discarded $ 01:53
gfldex optional anonymous positional argument
skids Wouldn't that recurse infinitely without annother multi? 01:54
BenGoldberg Precisely.
It's recursing infinitely, and thus runs out of memory. 01:55
That's my guess, anyway. 01:56
skids m: &infix:<==>.candidates.say
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«(sub infix:<==> ($?) { #`(Sub|60059064) ... } sub infix:<==> (\a, \b) { #`(Sub|60061344) ... } sub infix:<==> (Real \a, Real \b) { #`(Sub|60061192) ... } sub infix:<==> (Int:D \a, Int:D \b) { #`(Sub|60059520) ... } sub infix:<==> (int $a, int $b) { #`(Sub|…»
skids There are other multis, unless they are not defined in some internal scope
BenGoldberg Sure, but which of them match on a value which is defined, and Numeric, and not a subtype of Numeric? 01:58
skids m: multi sub infix:<==> (Numeric:D $?, Numeric:D $?) { "OHAI".say }; say so Numeric.new; 02:02
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Memory allocation failed; could not allocate 82944 bytes␤»
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awwaiid is someone named "raiph" around here? they left a comment adding some more colons to my collection. I thank them! thelackthereof.org/Perl6_Colons 02:29
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masak yes, raiph frequents this channel. 02:29
awwaiid .tell raigh Thanks for the comments, I've updated thelackthereof.org/Perl6_Colons 02:30
yoleaux awwaiid: I'll pass your message to raigh.
awwaiid thanks masak
TEttinger that was to raigh not raiph? 02:32
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awwaiid .tell raiph Thanks for the comments, I've updated thelackthereof.org/Perl6_Colons 02:33
yoleaux awwaiid: I'll pass your message to raiph.
awwaiid :)
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revhippie awwaiid: don't forget the number-first colon-pair :5foo 02:42
awwaiid got that one 02:43
it was in there as :1day, I changed it to :73day to make it easier to see 02:44
revhippie ohh sorry. 02:46
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awwaiid hmm. Almost all colon-pair is some sugar for Pair.new($key, $val). Is there a longhand for number conversion :16<d00d>? 02:48
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skids m: :16[0xd, 0, 0, 0xd] # ?? 02:51
camelia ( no output )
sortiz m: "d00".UNBASE(16) 02:52
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Method 'UNBASE' not found for invocant of class 'Str'␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/zF50ACZbW2 line 1␤␤»
sortiz m: "d00".UNBASE(16,"d000")
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Method 'UNBASE' not found for invocant of class 'Str'␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/1_vOB8tLXL line 1␤␤»
sortiz m: UNBASE(16,"d000")
camelia ( no output )
sortiz m: UNBASE(16,"d000").say
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«53248␤»
awwaiid UNBASE. Interesting. Why so loud? 02:53
skids That's more a rakudo internal thing, not a Perl 6 thing
awwaiid ah
sortiz For promote the sugared form, I suppose 02:54
awwaiid m: say 255.base(16)
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«FF␤»
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awwaiid pretty weird syntax, since all the other similar colon-pairs end up as a Pair 02:55
dalek kudo-star-daily: 20bb739 | coke++ | log/ (9 files):
today (automated commit)
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sortiz m: say :16[1, 3]; say UNBASE_BRACKET(16, 1, 3):
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling /tmp/VNGLw1Lncx␤Calling UNBASE_BRACKET(Int, Int, Int) will never work with declared signature ($base, @a)␤at /tmp/VNGLw1Lncx:1␤------> 3say :16[1, 3]; say 7⏏5UNBASE_BRACKET(16, 1, 3):␤»
sortiz m: say :16[1, 3]; say UNBASE_BRACKET(16, [1, 3]):
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«19␤19␤»
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awwaiid my $x = 24; say :$x<2034> 02:58
m: my $x = 24; say :$x<2034>
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«(Mu)␤»
awwaiid equivalent to (:$x)<2034>, uselessly looking up the 2034 key in x => 24. 03:00
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Herby_ Evening, everyone! 03:20
\o
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Herby_ \o 03:49
o\
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MadcapJake i have a derived class that has an overridden method but it's one that is used only internally to the base class and it seemingly won't use my derived version, how can make it do that? 03:50
gfldex how do you call that methdod? 03:52
MadcapJake it's called inside a method in the base class
gfldex code pls tyvm
MadcapJake here's one of the calls (there are a bunch in this class), the method in question is `died` github.com/MadcapJake/Test-Lab/blo...t.pm6#L113 03:54
Here's my derived class's overridden version github.com/MadcapJake/Test-Lab/blo...ment.t#L11 03:55
gfldex i don't thinks self.self is going to work. It's very late here and I will need to sleep over it. 03:57
MadcapJake alright :D
any quick thoughts that could lead me in the right direction?
gfldex no, but you may want to check what self.self. actually points to 03:59
MadcapJake self.self?
oh wow
that's bug
sadly, not the root cause here :P 04:01
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masak m: class C { method self { "OH HAI" }; method foo { self.self } }; say C.new.foo 04:13
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«OH HAI␤»
MadcapJake figured it out, any derived class needs to implement a `new` method or a call to new will just create a Cls::Default object 04:21
Is there a way to detect what class name is calling a method? I could put a guard in there that only defaults to Cls::Default is the calling class is the base. 04:22
figured that out too! :D 04:23
self.WHICH
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ugexe you could also use multis like: multi bar(Cls::Base:D $foo) { set-defaults(); nextsame; }; multi bar($foo) { work($foo) } 04:54
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MadcapJake is it mentioned anywhere that CATCH blocks will interfere with returning? Just figured this out x_x 06:00
jdv79 in what way is this manifesting? 06:02
MadcapJake ugexe, thanks for the tip, my current logic for new is «if self.WHICH.Str ~~ 'Test::Lab::Experiment' { Test::Lab::Experiment::Default.bless(:$name) } else { !!! }»
jdv79, I had a few methods with the body entirely wrapped in try/catch block 06:03
and the CATCH blocks were the last line
the only way I could get any values returned was either explicitly returning or by moving the CATCH block prior the implicit return statement
jdv79 iirc its not CATCH related at all. its just last line or explicit return. 06:05
MadcapJake oh! i assumed the CATCH would just be considered not a part of the sub's body 06:06
or rather the try's body 06:07
jdv79 well, its in there. again i believe that's the deal but i could be wrong.
MadcapJake m: sub foo { try { 'foo'; CATCH { default { die 'a horrible death' } } } }
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«WARNINGS for /tmp/JpEbUrKd5x:␤Useless use of constant string "foo" in sink context (line 1)␤»
MadcapJake m: sub foo { try { CATCH { default { die 'a horrible death' } }; 'foo'; } }
camelia ( no output )
MadcapJake yep definitely is a thing :P
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MadcapJake the example in language/exceptions shows a CATCH at the beginning of the block, but it never really delves into the question as all of the logic is just printing to stdout 06:09
i guess my problem is I was thinking of a CATCH block as a kind of branch of a conditional 06:10
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jdv79 maybe that deserves a doc issue about returning less simply than doc.perl6.org/type/Block descibes 06:18
*describes
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jdv79 MadcapJake: i created github.com/perl6/doc/issues/388 06:47
nite
sortiz jdv79++ # For the issue opened, I'm in the same camp. 06:50
o/ jdv79
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rindolf jdv79: hi, sup? 07:12
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[Tux] test 21.943 07:39
test-t 11.839
csv-parser 51.701
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El_Che same as yesterday's 07:40
so it's not getting slower :)
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MadcapJake jdv79, thanks! i'm off to bed too 07:55
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rindolf MadcapJake: good night. 07:56
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RabidGravy morning 08:18
ely-se hi
RabidGravy need more coffee, just did "git init", "git add ." in the parent of the one I intended and wondered why it was taking so long 08:19
sortiz ups! 08:21
my \p = :what<foo>; .say for p<what>.WHAT, p<what> # All expected 08:22
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sortiz m: my \p = :what<foo>; .say for p<what>.WHAT, p<what> # All expected 08:22
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«(Str)␤foo␤»
sortiz m: my \p = :what<foo bar>; .say for p<what>.WHAT, p<what> # Beware, I was expecting also Str! 08:23
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«(List)␤(foo bar)␤»
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pmurias jnthn: +1 to everything in you versioning blog post, good that we use git tags instead of per version subdirectories 08:57
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pmurias jnthn: re MoarVM and it's opset, (as rakudo/nqp is as far as I know are the only clients, do we really need to lock the opset down for years?) 09:03
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RabidGravy is there a thing which can turn something like "0d 00h 09m 38s" or some parsed set of numbers into a Duration? 09:05
moritz not in core 09:06
RabidGravy obviously not that difficult to do in a dumb way 09:07
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stmuk_ replies to versioning blog post 09:27
dalek c: c08878c | (Salvador Ortiz)++ | doc/Type/Pair.pod:
Update Pair.pod

Add some more examples of the adverbial form		 09:31
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lizmat m: Real.new.Num # this is the loop: it calls Real.Bridge.Num., and Real.Bridge calls Real.Num again 09:36
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Memory allocation failed; could not allocate 81920 bytes␤»
lizmat this code has been in there for at least 4 years :-( 09:38
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RabidGravy boo! 09:57
AlexDaniel Bool 09:58
lizmat eek!
dalek c: 1601312 | (Salvador Ortiz)++ | doc/Language/nativecall.pod:
Update nativecall.pod

Describe how to pass allocated pointers to native types in native calls		 09:59
lizmat added RT #127503 about Real.new.num infinilooping, Yary++ BenGoldberg++ 10:03
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AlexDaniel m: my $foo = ‘hello’; say :$foo 10:04
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Unexpected named parameter 'foo' passed␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/wzMnCeL9yd line 1␤␤»
AlexDaniel m: my $foo = ‘hello’; say (:$foo)
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«foo => hello␤»
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AlexDaniel m: say (::a) 10:06
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Could not locate compile-time value for symbol a␤»
AlexDaniel :/
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rdmsno When I re-run "make && make install" on nqp & rakudo-star (eg. after libc update and subsequent jvm rebuild and consequently nqp -> rakudo-star rebuild), I get 10:07
~# perl6 -V
Unhandled exception: java.lang.RuntimeException: Missing or wrong version of dependency 'gen/jvm/stage2/QRegex.nqp'
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lizmat m: ::a # seems correct to me, AlexDaniel
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Could not locate compile-time value for symbol a␤»
rdmsno where do I have to force a rebuild to get rid of that?
lizmat rdmsno: rm -rf install usually does the trick 10:08
rdmsno lizmat: that's a complete rebuild - what isn't sane
the intention of my question is to avoid the "rm -rf" hack 10:09
AlexDaniel lizmat: okay, so let's say I have a source file with 1000 lines… --ll-exception does not help too
lizmat AlexDaniel: I see your point
rdmsno: I'm afraid I have no other suggestion to offer at this point: I always went the rm -rf way :-( 10:10
rdmsno lizmat: than we should take half an hour on 18th and we find a better way - when you like
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lizmat rdmsno: sure :-) 10:11
rdmsno lizmat: "rm -rf install" on nqp or rakudo-star?
lizmat you could try nqp first :-)
rdmsno nods 10:12
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lizmat AlexDaniel: looking at the ::a issue, fwiw 10:25
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FROGGS what should ::a mean btw? 10:28
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lizmat probably nothing, but a typo of that kind in a large source file, would be hard to track 10:33
afk for a bit& 10:35
sortiz ::a means "Search for the package or symbol a"
m: my \a = 8; say ::a: 10:36
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«8␤»
sortiz m: module a {}: say ::a:
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling /tmp/1ktnIHfnGz␤Confused␤at /tmp/1ktnIHfnGz:1␤------> 3module a {}:7⏏5 say ::a:␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair␤»
sortiz m: module a {}; say ::a:
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«(a)␤»
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sortiz m: class Foo {}; my $b = 'Foo'; say ::($b) 10:37
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«(Foo)␤»
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sortiz As far as I understand... 10:44
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pmurias rdmsno: I encounter that sort of problems when there is a bug in the Makefile 11:01
rdmsno: I use "make clean" as a workaround for those sort of things 11:02
sortiz m: try { EVAL 'my $x = ::P' }; say ~$! 11:04
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«Could not locate compile-time value for symbol P␤»
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El_Che I love the flexibilitiy of Datetime.earlier(days => $negative_int) and later 11:08
but sometimes my head blows :)
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mscha m: say '[hello]' ~~ / <[ [ ]> /; # This one works fine ... 11:13
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«｢[｣␤»
mscha m: say '[hello]' ~~ / <[ ] ]> /; # but this one does not. Isn't tha a bug?
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling /tmp/nHFWkjQgsw␤Unable to parse expression in metachar:sym<assert>; couldn't find final '>' ␤at /tmp/nHFWkjQgsw:1␤------> 3say '[hello]' ~~ / <[ ] 7⏏5]> /; # but this one does not. Isn't␤»
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jnthn mscha: I don't think we can make the second one work 11:15
mscha: And so we'd only be forbidding the first because you can't do the second, which may be consistent-er, but not sure it's worth the breaking change. 11:16
mscha jnthn: so, we're back to LTS? :(
m: say '[hello]' ~~ / <[ \] ]> /; 11:17
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«｢]｣␤»
jnthn mscha: It just semes too small a reason to go breaking things. 11:18
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jnthn It's well within the realm of things we could change and manage with version guarding. 11:20
But for me it's below the threshold of being worth bothering with. But I'm not the language designer... :)
lizmat jnthn: the ::a issue is a naked nqp::die in World.find_symbol
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jnthn lizmat: How rude! 11:21
lizmat jnthn: it is being called at Actions:8928
jnthn I don't actually know what the ::a issue is :)
jnthn didn't really backlog... :)
lizmat m: ::a # note lack of where this happend
camelia rakudo-moar b54294: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Could not locate compile-time value for symbol a␤»
jnthn Aha
Yeah...
That could do with a fix :) 11:22
lizmat and I'm looking at that
this happend at Actions:8928: trying to wrap that in a try
jnthn Cool. I guess $/ is available where we die?
lizmat it is there
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lizmat my assumption was that $type would be null if the find_symbol died 11:23
jnthn OK, shouldn't be too bad...
moritz while you're at it, "could not locate" is one of those weird error messages
lizmat but a nqp::isnull after the try doesn't fire
moritz why couldn't you locate it?
"No compile-time value for symbol a" would be better 11:24
perhaps adding a verb too, "No compile-time value available for symbol a"
lizmat moritz: that message will be replaced by a proper exception, e.g. X::NoSuchSymbol 11:25
jnthn lizmat: In NQP, scalars start out holding NQPMu
lizmat which means that nqp::isnull on them would be true, no?
jnthn No
lizmat ah?
jnthn NQPMu is not a null
null means a real null
lizmat so how do I check for that then?
unless $type ? 11:26
jnthn I'd probably do something in CATCH.... 11:27
lizmat ok, I'll try that
jnthn But you could explicitly initialize $type to nqp::null() before the try block too
Then your null check would work
lizmat no, it didn't :-( 11:28
tried that already :-(
hmmm... CATCH seems to fix it 11:30
running spectest now
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lizmat jnthn: there is one test in roast that tests for the specific error message we got before 11:43
should I just correct that one in roast/master 11:45
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jnthn lizmat: Yes, that will have to be 6.c-errata at some point too :) 11:45
lizmat so fix in errata as a todo, and fix properly in master, is what you're saying ? 11:46
rdmsno pmurias: I asked because I expected one knows about that 11:47
dalek kudo/nom: b9f90bc | lizmat++ | src/Perl6/Actions.nqp:
Fix for RT #127504
rdmsno seems not, so I make an appointment with lizmat to dig into the Makefiles (I'm not familiar with nqp/rakudo* sources)
jnthn lizmat: I'd commit in master, then create the errata branch and cherry-pick. If you're not quite comfortable with doing that, then feel free to file this as a roast ticket and I can take care of it. 11:49
lizmat I'd prefer the latter :-) 11:50
jnthn OK. Maybe won't get to it today.
lizmat I'll commit to master
dalek ast: 5dcda3c | lizmat++ | integration/weird-errors.t:
Minimal change to make test pass after b9f90bc592f

Should be cherry picked and todo'd in errata branch		 11:54
ast: 5a079b2 | lizmat++ | integration/weird-errors.t:
Add test for RT #127504
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AlexDaniel that was really quick 12:09
lizmat++
lizmat sometimes it can be quick :-)
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dalek kudo/nom: b2e57f6 | lizmat++ | src/core/Hash.pm:
Improve Int %h by 20% by removing code

Why? Because the candidates that handle the type constrained values Hash, were less optimised. But the only difference really was how they tried to get at the Hash descriptor (which is the only thing that really separates a type constrained Hash from a
  "normal" Hash). So removing the code, will revert back to the
better optimised un-constrained candidates, and thus get better performance.		 12:32
kudo/nom: a68d91c | lizmat++ | src/core/Hash.pm:
Cosmetics: use same order of method definitions
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dalek kudo/nom: 0b3beb6 | lizmat++ | src/core/Hash.pm:
Add comment why we didn't optimize Hash.BIND-KEY
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nanis Is someone looking at RT #127473? <rt.perl.org/Public/Bug/Display.htm...127473> 12:58