»ö« Welcome to Perl 6! | perl6.org/ | evalbot usage: 'p6: say 3;' or rakudo:, or /msg camelia p6: ... | irclog: irc.perl6.org or colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/perl6 | UTF-8 is our friend!
Set by moritz on 22 December 2015.
00:01 wamba joined
grondilu doubts it's possible 00:11
bioduds_ it compiles
and asks for the input
grondilu looks in S19
bioduds_ Usage: ef8a4da32a.pl [--kv=<Associative>] 00:12
but I can't seem to find the correct input syntax on the command line
zengargoyle thinks there's a getopt-ish module. always found MAIN args to be *really* hard for anything but basic strind/bool type things.
grondilu does not find any occurrence of C<:%> in S19
sub MAIN( *%options ) {...} does work 00:15
and it might be what you wanted to do
strangely though, sub MAIN(Str *%options) {...} fails 00:16
zengargoyle but i myself was thinking of asking a similar question about same sort of thing with '@'.
bioduds_ grondilu : how would it be called on the command line?
grondilu perl6 prog.p6 -foo=bar -pi=3.14
it's not a named h
%
basically you will not use the name of the hash on the command line. You only give the pairs it will be made of. 00:18
bioduds_ let me try 00:19
grondilu there's really not much point in using a named parameter when there is only one parameter, anyway.
(unless you have multiple candidates, of course) 00:20
bioduds_ cool, this works for me
grondilu is glad he could help 00:21
bioduds_ thanks, man 00:23
:)
if you find out later if and how naming the parameter on the MAIN could work, please tell me 00:24
grondilu I keep doubting it's possible. 00:26
you'd have to somehow pass a Perl 6 syntax on the shell command line. That can't fly, can it? 00:27
zengargoyle thinks a HOWTO-MAIN doc is needed. :)
grondilu how MAIN works should be the main subject of a perl6 man page. 00:28
wait, scrap that.
zengargoyle with a bunch of practical-ish examples.
grondilu realizes that not all Perl 6 programs have a MAIN subroutine. 00:29
bioduds_ well, my user-ish role would say: if it's there, there must be a way to use it
anyhow, since this here sub MAIN( *%kv, Str :$new ) { is working 00:30
then it does what I need
grondilu it's kind of special though. MAIN has a Perl 6 syntax but its semantics transcend Perl 6 to go into shell territory.
00:30 canopus left
grondilu so it's not too surprising that there is a mismatch at some point. 00:31
zengargoyle i think the issue is that it's just a standard sub specification and going from 'chunk of text from CLI' -> Perl6-thing.
yeah, that.
grondilu is always happy when he can use the verb "transcend" in a sentence :)
bioduds_ surely, only one hash set so to speak can be captured by this approach 00:32
but it gives a lot of room actually, doesn't it? 00:33
grondilu I don't follow you
00:33 sufrostico left
zengargoyle the slurpy only permits one hash (or array) at end. 00:34
00:37 tushar joined
zengargoyle thinks that going from array of string from CLI to variables is going to take getopt-ish complexity vs simple sub signature. 00:41
otherwise we'd be able to call any P6 sub with and array of strings and have it work. :)
grondilu also, doesn't the correct syntax for a long parameter name in shell requires two and not just one dash? 00:50
like $ dothis --with-parameter=the-parameter 00:51
and $ dothat -x=2
zengargoyle yeah, and Bool have some weird --\name for the false case.
just took a quick peek at perl6-all-modules and found no MAIN that use anything other than :$ 00:52
grondilu is not surprised
anything else would require some form of marshallization, shouldn't it?
s/shouldn't/wouldn't/ 00:53
zengargoyle i once made a :$file that was type checked to IO.r or something but it was crazy hard vs just getting a string and checking myself.
grondilu strings are more or less the only types the shell and Perl 6 have in common. No wonder that's what is used for argument passing between them. 00:54
zengargoyle this all brings back horrible memories of programming where you didn't even get an array of strings but just one string you had to parse yourself. 00:55
grondilu meh, that happened often for me. 00:56
I mean like, unacceptably often.
bioduds_ being able to *%kv is awesome enough
opens up a bunch of opportunities
im already using it
:)
grondilu bioduds_: I would recommend naming it *%options though 00:57
bioduds_ makes no diff, here look: sub MAIN( *%kv, Str :$op ) { with %kv { for %kv.kv -> $key, $value { get-json( WHERE => $key, EQUALS => $value, op => $op ); } } without %kv { get-json; } }
this is what im doing, im treating it right away 00:58
grondilu or even *%command-line-options if you don't mind being verbose.
bioduds_ cause in my case here, im building a key=>value NoSQL system
so the parameters are actually the key and the value to be searched 00:59
so, they are not actually options
grondilu does sub MAIN (*%kv, Str :$op) {...} behaved as you expected? I'm a bit surprised it's even legal.
bioduds_ yes, perfectly
now I can do search for name="Some Name" op="eq" 01:00
and search rate="4.3" op="gt"
works fine
grondilu m: sub (*%h, :$foo) { say %h.perl }(foo => "bar")
camelia rakudo-moar 8aa0aa: OUTPUT«{:foo("bar")}␤»
grondilu m: sub (*%h, :$foo) { say %h.perl, " and ", $foo }(foo => "bar") 01:01
camelia rakudo-moar 8aa0aa: OUTPUT«{:foo("bar")} and bar␤»
grondilu hum... so the argument ends up in both parameters. That's slightly weird.
zengargoyle how many 'op'? 01:02
bioduds_ a few 01:05
zengargoyle m: sub (:$foo, *%h) { say %h.perl, " and ", $foo }(foo => "bar")
camelia rakudo-moar 8aa0aa: OUTPUT«{} and bar␤»
bioduds_ eq, lt, gt, lte, gte
for starters
zengargoyle slurpy should go at end i think.
but makes op need to be first i think. 01:06
bioduds_ what do you mean?
sorry, didn't quite catch what you're trying to say
zengargoyle m: sub (:$foo, *%h) { say %h.perl, " and ", $foo }(foo => "bar", foo => "baz") 01:08
camelia rakudo-moar 8aa0aa: OUTPUT«{} and baz␤»
zengargoyle pondering collison when op is a name for a parameter and a poddible key in kv.... 01:09
bioduds_ oh, yes
correct
zengargoyle thought checking :$op first would grab first --op and *% would get any additional --op... 01:10
bioduds_ perhaps subset Operator where "eq"|"gt"|"lt";
zengargoyle don't seem to work that way. :P
bioduds_ with sub MAIN( *%kv, Operator :$op ) {
zengargoyle yeah, or i was thinking earlier of multi sub MAIN('eq', ...) multi sub MAIN('lt', ...) 01:11
sorta sub-command like.
01:12 Actualeyes joined
zengargoyle but it forces order to your parameters. 01:12
01:13 pierre_ joined
bioduds_ yes 01:13
zengargoyle loves to have a multi sub MAIN('test') in progs.
bioduds_ declarative programming to the rescue! :D
grondilu would rather write it multi sub MAIN(:$test!) 01:16
so that it's called as $ perl6 prog --test
01:17 pierre_ left
mst I like my perl5 solution 01:17
where if it's a module, it loads, and if it's a script, iut runs
see p3rl.org/App::opan
(note i mention this in a spirit of "steal!" not anything else ;) 01:18
grondilu wonders if you can call MAIN inside a MAIN to do recursion.
zengargoyle just another sub. 01:20
grondilu tries. Indeed, just an other sub.
zengargoyle i wonder about multi dispatch tho with :$test! 01:21
vs *@args or somesuch
mst |c is your friend 01:22
zengargoyle always wins?
bioduds_ how would I go about checking if some string meets my subset? 01:23
i mean, introspection
zengargoyle $str ~~ subset
?
bioduds_ ok, this 01:24
thanks
zengargoyle just guess, if is don't work file a LTA bug. :P
bioduds_ unless ($key ~~ Operator) { get-json( WHERE => $key, EQUALS => $value, op => $op ); } }
scott I made a really simple perl6 script I'd like to be able to run as part of my shell, but it consistently takes about 250ms to run. I noticed in --stagestats that the parse stage is consistently slow: "Stage parse : 0.160". is there a way to avoid re-parsing every time, for a simple one-off script? 01:25
part of my shell prompt*
zengargoyle make most of script a module that gets precomipled and then tiny script that uses module? 01:26
scott I wonder if that would even help, considering the script is already tiny
20 lines of uncomplicated code
zengargoyle maybe not.
scott this is the script gist.github.com/solson/c28d547b5d3...ed905dc099 01:27
running it directly with `perl6` is just too slow for my purpose, unless there's some way to make it avoid re-parsing 01:28
bioduds_ now eq, lt, gt, gte, lte are reserved
great
zengargoyle : also, as you pointed, sub MAIN( Operator :$op, *%kv ) { instead of sub MAIN( *%kv, Operator :$op ) {
zengargoyle scott: IMHO perl6 isn't fast enough yet for *quick* depending on values of *quick*. 01:29
scott startup time is the only thing that really matters here
(which is dominated by parsing) 01:30
zengargoyle yeah, not sure if 'use Foo;Foo::run' is faster than just 'Foo' for 20 lines or not... 01:31
scott it'd be cool if standalone scripts could get precompiled like modules do 01:32
grondilu just make it a module 01:33
zengargoyle i think it's on the wishlist. at least that's what i'm told everytime i bring it up.
scott I'm not familiar with how to make modules yet, and this kind of becomes more inelegant than ruby as soon as it uses more than one file
01:33 eliasr left
grondilu what if you just add 'unit module ::;' on the top? Wouldn't that do precompilation? 01:34
zengargoyle oh, i means script to standalone executable...
scott grondilu: I'll try it
01:34 canopus joined
scott grondilu: seems to have no effect, at least when running `perl6 format-duration.p6` 01:35
grondilu indeed 01:36
scott actually, it had an effect in that MAIN wasn't executed anymore, but parsing was still slow each time
grondilu well, I tried.
a module should execute MAIN though, if called as a program. 01:37
shouldn't it? 01:38
zengargoyle i would suspect not 01:39
grondilu scott: maybe you can compile it with --target=moar or something 01:41
scott that gets me gist.github.com/solson/1e801aef7c3...a75645c63c 01:42
grondilu I don't recall the exact syntax. jnthn once showed me but I forgot. 01:43
I do remember it is possible though.
zengargoyle maybe that changed when things started going into compunitrepos instead of fs. 01:44
or try morevm...
01:45 TEttinger joined, wamba left
grondilu --target=mast do work but it'd be silly to use that. 01:47
zengargoyle --target=mbc --output=file.mbc works.... 01:50
or at least created the file and i don't know how to run it. :P 01:51
grondilu --target=mbc maybe? I can't test it right now I'm compiling rakudo
nope 01:52
scott zengargoyle: yeah, that worked for me 01:55
zengargoyle can't figure out how to run it.... think it takes: moar + some libpaths 01:56
grondilu just copy what the perl6 executable do :)
$ cat $(which perl6) 01:57
scott I managed to get moarvm to segfault attempting that
grondilu oh yeah I forgot you want to feed it with bytecode 01:58
do $ moar --help, I think it tells you to use --dump 01:59
oh no, sorry
zengargoyle Unhandled exception: Could not look up the container config for 'rakudo_scalar' 02:01
grondilu yeah, got the same 02:02
02:07 tushar left 02:08 cbk_ left 02:09 samcv left
bioduds_ grondilu : you're right, this here is better multi sub MAIN( Operator :$op, *%kv ) { for %kv.kv -> $key, $value { unless ($key ~~ Operator) { get-json( WHERE => $key, EQUALS => $value, op => $op ); } } } multi sub MAIN() { get-json; } 02:10
zengargoyle my sorta guess is that file.mbc has to be somehow combined with bootstrap or core or some other mbc to get to the stage where it's directly runnable by moar.
like some ld stage... 02:11
02:12 noganex joined 02:15 noganex_ left
grondilu as I said I vaguely recall jnthn showing it can be done and it was not very complicated. 02:17
02:18 BenGoldberg joined
grondilu though it's possible I'm confusing things 02:18
zengargoyle yeah, one of those things that waiting for somebody who knows to show up is probably faster than trying to figure it out... 02:20
scott thanks for looking into it 02:32
zengargoyle squirrel! 02:33
02:34 johnjohn101 joined
johnjohn101 hi perl6 02:34
zengargoyle it's odd that it's BOOTSTRAP.moarvm where the error pops up.
i'm sorta miff'd that my simple test doesn't work. :P 02:36
turning 'perl6 test.p6' into 'nqp test.nqp' into 'moar test.mbp' into just './test' is a worthy progression. 02:42
02:49 samcv_ joined, samcv_ is now known as samcv 03:00 cowens left 03:10 BenGoldberg left 03:12 kaare_ joined 03:14 johnjohn101 left, pierre_ joined 03:18 flexibeast left 03:19 pierre_ left
awwaiid Just posted blog mentioning Perl 6, thelackthereof.org/TLT/2016.09.23/...he_Methods 03:32
03:37 labster left, luis` joined, kst` joined, canopus left, woolfy left, [1]ringer1 left, noganex_ joined, djbkd_ joined, zhmylove joined, Xliff_ joined, mohae_ joined, setty2 joined, cpage__ joined, bisectable6 left, committable6 left, amalia_ left, leego left, pyrimidine joined, sjohnsen- left, luis left, [particle] left, pdcawley left, kmwallio left, timeless left, setty1 left, camelia left, Timbus left, inokenty left, synopsebot6 left, kmwallio joined, setty2 is now known as setty1, notbenh left, infina left, ringer1 joined, DarthGandalf left, mattp__ joined, Sgeo_ joined, Gothmog_ left, lizmat_ joined, dalek left, labster1 joined, inokenty1 joined, committable6_ joined, bisectable6_ joined, dalek joined, pdcawley_ joined, zhmylove_ left, mattp_ left, TEttinger left, perigrin left, Jonis left, krunen left, pochi_ left, chee left, sergot left, ChanServ sets mode: +v dalek, Timbus joined, perigrin_ joined, leego joined, noganex left, TimToady left, ft left, jnthn left, mst left, ggherdov left, Grrrr left, Jonis_ joined, nebuchad` joined, dj_goku_ joined, kaare__ joined, krunen__ joined, DarthGandalf joined, kaare_ left, zoosha left, dj_goku_ left, dj_goku_ joined, sjn left, cooper left, awwaiid left, hcit left, woodruffw left, cxreg left, nightfrog left, avuserow left, erdic_ joined, AndyBotwin left, psch left, spider-mario left, markk left, Guest60806 left, shadowpaste left, sjn_ joined, pierrot left, sftp left 03:38 simcop2387 left, mohae left, TEttinger joined, _notbenh joined, awwaiid joined, profan_ joined, Sgeo left, bpmedley left, vcv left, dylanwh left, rjbs left, masak left, rcy left, tailgate left, BinGOs_ joined, cpage_ left, Khisanth left, djbkd left, masak joined, _notbenh is now known as notbenh, vcv_ joined, AlexDaniel left, breinbaas left, lizmat left, perlpilot left, aindilis` left, MilkmanDan left, facetious joined, cxreg2 joined, dylanwh joined, sjohnsen joined, Praise left, krunen__ is now known as krunen, a3r0 left, ponbiki left, john51 left, sftp joined, cpage__ is now known as cpage_, kst left, grondilu left, broquaint left, bhm left, BooK left 03:39 ilogger2_ joined, AndyBotwin joined, KotH_ joined, perlpilot joined, a3r0 joined, orevdiabl joined, ponbiki joined, mspo_ joined, richi238 joined 03:40 ponbiki is now known as Guest17098, amalia_ joined, telex joined, pochi joined, Guest71143 joined, ggoebel_ joined, [particle] joined 03:41 arnsholt_ joined, Khisanth joined 03:42 john51 joined, grondilu joined, Grrrr joined, ChanServ sets mode: +v camelia, edenc_ joined 03:43 sivoais joined, pierrot joined, wtw joined, mst_ joined, tinita joined, Upasaka joined, Celelibi_ joined 03:44 decent joined, woodruffw joined 03:48 psch joined, rjbs joined, BillSussman joined, krunen_ joined, richi238 left, labster joined, pochi left, [1]ringer1 joined, emdashcomma joined, bob777 joined, Bucciarati_ joined, skaji_ joined, edenc_ left, bjz joined, luis joined, markk_ joined, gensym joined, grondilu_ joined, [particle] left, [particle]1 joined, domm1 joined, mohae joined, matt_ joined, perigrin joined, matt_ is now known as Guest28917, kaare__ joined, Guest71143 left, richi235 joined, AndyBotwin left, vytas-local_ joined, facetious joined, wtw left, MilkmanDan joined 03:49 grondilu left, vytas left, garu_ left, ssm left, dsp_ left, Juerd_ joined, decent left, telex left, dan joined, MilkmanDan left, MilkmanDan joined, Juerd_ is now known as Juerd, decent joined, canopus joined, vcv joined, moritz_ joined, xinming joined, Sgeo joined, beatdown joined, profan joined, edenc joined, gabiruh joined, Gothmog_ joined, hcit joined, wtw joined, avuserow joined, m0ltar joined 03:50 ssm joined, pdcawley joined, xiaomiao joined, cgfbee joined, jnthn joined, olinkl joined 03:51 tony-o joined 03:52 breinbaas joined, AlexDaniel joined, john51 left, atacama joined, ilbot3 joined, john51 joined, ft joined 03:53 sunnavy joined 03:54 rmmm joined, raydiak joined 03:55 ingy joined, giraffe_ joined, masak_ joined, dsp_ joined, shadowpaste joined 03:56 richi235 left, grondilu_ left, sivoais left, sivoais joined 03:57 lizmat joined, Actualeyes joined 03:58 richi235 joined, dj_goku joined, dj_goku left, dj_goku joined 03:59 garu joined 04:00 bartolin joined, sivoais left 04:03 pochi joined, telex joined 04:05 ggherdov joined 04:10 w4and0er96 joined 04:11 BuildTheRobots joined 04:14 timeless joined 04:19 bob777 left, Actualeyes left, bob777 joined 04:20 [particle] joined, ringer1 joined
SmokeMachine____ Hi! I am having this problem, but the module (i think) is in the right place... any suggestion? 04:20
04:20 mohae_ joined, garu left, NeuralAnomaly_ joined, huggable_ joined
SmokeMachine____ www.irccloud.com/pastebin/TCh2pnb9/ 04:20
04:20 ingy left, vcv left, masak_ left, john51 left, [ptc]_ joined, giraffe_ left, garu_ joined, Actualeyes1 joined, timeless left, Spot__ joined, breinbaas left, markk_ left, [1]ringer1 left, Spot__ left, Spot__ joined, w4and0er96 left, [particle]1 left, SourceBaby joined, nemo_ joined, vcv joined, breinbaas joined, Woodi_ joined, atacama left, [ptc]_ is now known as [ptc], Khisanth left, ingy joined, atacama joined, richi235 left, vytas-local_ left, BuildTheRobots left, edenc left, beatdown left, NeuralAnomaly left, pochi left, jcallen left, ggherdov left, Juerd left, arnsholt_ left, Sgeo left, pierrot left, cgfbee left, dan left, MilkmanDan left
salparadise SmokeMachine____: code causing the problem will help I think 04:20
04:20 erdic joined 04:21 Gothmog_ left, beatdown_ joined, Gothmog_ joined, DANtheBEASTman joined, vytas-local_ joined, sftp joined, Juerd joined, mohae left, Sgeo joined, jcallen joined, poisonby joined 04:22 camelia joined, spider-mario joined, cgfbee joined, richi235 joined, inokenty joined 04:23 kmwallio joined, ChanServ sets mode: +v camelia, pochi joined, Unavowed joined 04:24 giraffe_ joined 04:25 john51 joined
SmokeMachine____ I have a module ProblemSolver on ./lib/ProblemSolver.pm6 and a ProblemSolver::State on ./lib/ProblemSolver/State.pm6 04:25
04:25 petercommand joined, markk joined 04:26 abruanese joined, imcsk8 joined
SmokeMachine____ and a test t/03-problem.t that does: use lib "lib"; use ProblemSolver; 04:26
04:26 huf joined
SmokeMachine____ salparadise: ^^ 04:26
04:26 john51 left, simcop2387 joined
SmokeMachine____ ProblemSolver and ProblemSolver::State are classes... 04:26
04:27 [Coke] joined
SmokeMachine____ salparadise: ant idea? 04:27
04:27 arnsholt joined, MilkmanDan joined, masak_ joined, japhb joined, pierrot joined, Khisanth joined, labster left 04:28 eyck joined, cosimo joined, sivoais joined 04:29 ggherdov joined
salparadise not really, more code, is ProblemSolver something you wrote? 04:30
SmokeMachine____ www.irccloud.com/pastebin/0ERDdoJc/
yes, I did write ProblemSolver and ProblemSolver::State
04:33 clkao joined 04:34 Util joined, infina joined, timeless joined 04:35 w4and0er96 joined, john51 joined 04:36 wtw_ joined, Cabanossi joined 04:38 wtw left
SmokeMachine____ Looks that the problem is when I create a attribute with the use'd type as type 04:39
04:41 holyghost joined 04:47 baest_ joined 04:50 baest_ left 04:52 baest joined 05:02 cbk_ joined 05:05 cpage_ joined 05:16 pierre_ joined 05:17 melezhik joined 05:20 pierre_ left 05:21 cbk_ left 05:30 AlexDaniel left 05:38 pierre_ joined 05:50 grondilu joined 05:56 yoleaux joined, ChanServ sets mode: +v yoleaux 05:58 holyghost left, pierre_ left 05:59 wamba joined 06:01 kurahaupo joined 06:11 ufobat joined 06:30 andrzejku joined 06:41 kurahaupo left 06:49 KotH_ is now known as KotH 06:52 Matthew[m] joined 06:56 wamba left 07:05 darutoko joined 07:32 firstdayonthejob joined 07:35 kaare__ is now known as 92AAADCOE, edenc joined, BuildTheRobots joined, jnap_ joined, PotatoGim joined, kipd joined, Peter_R joined, damnlie joined, jsimonet joined, albongo joined, avalenn joined, isacloud joined, DrParis joined, kipd left, kipd joined, PotatoGim left, PotatoGim joined, jnap_ left, jnap_ joined, BuildTheRobots left, BuildTheRobots joined, andrzejku left, BuildTheRobots left 07:36 espadrine joined 07:39 PotatoGim left 07:41 BuildTheRobots joined 07:45 PotatoGim joined 07:50 grondilu left 07:52 andrzejku joined 07:55 RabidGravy joined 08:03 andrzejku left 08:05 cyphase joined 08:07 andrzejku joined 08:08 cpage_ left 08:10 cpage_ joined, FROGGS joined 08:13 breinbaas left, cyphase left 08:14 breinbaas joined
moritz_ SmokeMachine____: have you used ProblemSolver::State in ProblemSovler.pm? 08:17
08:18 cyphase joined 08:25 [particle] left, [particle] joined 08:29 andrzejku left 08:38 cyphase left 08:39 BinGOs joined 08:41 domidumont joined 08:45 cyphase joined 08:46 domidumont1 joined, domidumont left 08:47 andrzejku joined 08:48 ka joined 08:58 BillSussman left 09:04 eliasr joined 09:08 bpmedley joined 09:10 labster joined 09:12 domidumont1 left 09:25 hanekomu joined 09:27 Bucciarati_ is now known as Bucciarati, hanekomu left, canopus left 09:29 hanekomu joined 09:32 canopus joined, Ven_ joined 09:37 Ven_ left, Ven_ joined
dalek line-Perl5: a03cc7b | niner++ | lib/Inline/Perl5.pm6:
Faster and safer check to determine if we construct a subclass object
 09:37
09:38 nebuchadnezzar joined 09:51 Ven__ joined 09:52 Ven_ left 09:55 RabidGravy left 10:03 ka left 10:08 setty1 joined 10:11 yqt joined 10:13 nadim_ joined 10:14 firstdayonthejob left 10:20 andrzejku left 10:21 labster left 10:23 ocbtec joined 10:31 Ven__ left 10:35 imcsk8 left, imcsk8 joined 10:38 wamba joined
El_Che impressive netsplit 10:42
10:53 Actualeyes1 left
dalek c: 8dd339e | (Jan-Olof Hendig)++ | doc/Type/Range.pod6:
Added some more code examples plus some sundry stuff
 11:00
11:08 Actualeyes joined
bioduds_ hey guys 11:14
is this here valid? a hash of hashes? my %hash-set = { "técnico" => { "Marcelo Oliveira" => Técnico.new( nome=>"Marcelo Oliveira", gênero=>"Homem", idade=>49, rate=>3.88 ) }, { "Levir Culpi" => Técnico.new( nome=>"Levir Culpi", gênero=>"Homem", idade=>52, rate=>4.12 ) }, { "Cuca" => Técnico.new( nome=>"Cuca", gênero=>"Homem", idade=>49, rate=>"-" ) }, "tim
psch m: my %h = foo => { bar => 1, baz => 2 }; say %h<foo><bar> 11:15
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«1␤»
psch bioduds_: no, it's not, because you're assigning a one-item list to a hash 11:16
m: my %h = { a => 1 }
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«Potential difficulties:␤ Useless use of hash composer on right side of hash assignment; did you mean := instead?␤ at <tmp>:1␤ ------> 3my %h = { a => 1 }7⏏5<EOL>␤»
psch m: my %h = { a => { b => 2 } }
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«Potential difficulties:␤ Useless use of hash composer on right side of hash assignment; did you mean := instead?␤ at <tmp>:1␤ ------> 3my %h = { a => { b => 2 } }7⏏5<EOL>␤»
psch oh, no, my private test was just weird
bioduds_: do you get an error from the compiler? or just that warning
?
bioduds_: because in general we try to make the compiler make sense when it says something :) 11:17
11:23 domidumont joined
bioduds_ warning I guess 11:23
Potential difficulties: Useless use of hash composer on right side of hash assignment; did you mean := instead? at /home/ubuntu/dev/futs/scripts/ef8a4da32a.pl:37
psch m: my %h = { a => 1 }, { b => 2 }; say %h.keys # useful use of hash composers, as counter example 11:24
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«(a b)␤»
psch m: my @a = [ 1, 2, 3 ]; say @a.elems
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«3␤»
dalek c: 3ad38ad | (Jan-Olof Hendig)++ | doc/Type/Str.pod6:
Added blurb in docs for split that specifying a negative limit does not produce any meaningful result.
 11:26
bioduds_ what is it telling me? I don't understand the warning: Potential difficulties: Useless use of hash composer on right side of hash assignment; did you mean := instead? at /home/ubuntu/dev/futs/scripts/ef8a4da32a.pl:38 11:27
psch bioduds_: { } is a hash composer, it composes a hash 11:28
bioduds_: a hash assignment means you're assigning to a hash
bioduds_ why is it saying that it is useless? 11:29
psch bioduds_: assignments to sigiled variables are coercive, so you're uselessly creating a hash that the assignment could create for you
bioduds_ oh, I think I get it, so how would be the non-useless syntax?
psch leave out the outer-most hash composer
11:30 rindolf joined, CIAvash joined
bioduds_ oh, I think I got it 11:30
the outer { is useless 11:31
got it, thank guys
11:32 ka joined
bioduds_ meaning, this here will suffice: my %hash-set = "técnico" => { "Marcelo Oliveira" => Técnico.new( nome=>"Marcelo Oliveira", gênero=>"Homem", idade=>49, rate=>3.88 ), "Levir Culpi" => Técnico.new( nome=>"Levir Culpi", gênero=>"Homem", idade=>52, rate=>4.12 ), "Cuca" => Técnico.new( nome=>"Cuca", gênero=>"Homem", idade=>49, rate=>"-" ) }, "time" => { "C 11:32
great
11:32 scott joined
scott I'm also learning perl6 and just cleared this up for myself in the repl. a => 1 is a Pair, {a => 1} is a Hash, but like they say, assigning a pair or list of pairs to a %-sigil variable coerces to hash anyway 11:32
11:34 Ven_ joined 11:36 Ven_ left, Ven_ joined
scott it's also fine to put regular parentheses around your list of pairs, as in `my %h = ( a => 1, b => 2, ... )`, since that's still just a list of pairs 11:38
SmokeMachine____ moritz_: yes 11:40
11:41 mst_ is now known as mst, mst left, mst joined 11:42 mst is now known as mst_, mst_ is now known as mst 11:46 Ven_ left 11:49 ka left 11:55 infina left, infina joined 11:56 ka joined 12:05 92AAADCOE left 12:06 ka left 12:08 ka joined 12:20 sammers joined 12:21 rindolf left 12:30 dayangkun joined 12:36 rindolf joined, bstamour joined 12:40 dayangkun left, dayangkun joined 12:44 pmurias joined 12:45 dayangkun left, bstamour left 12:47 Zoffix joined
Zoffix scott, I recommend you think of Hash as %(a => 1) rather than {a => 1}. It's easy to get tripped up in cases where the curly version gets treated as a block 12:48
m: $_ = 42; dd { a => $_ } # case in point
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«-> ;; $_? is raw { #`(Block|57555136) ... }␤»
Zoffix scott, also, you don't need any parentheses at all. my %h = a => 1, b => 2; works 12:49
m: my %h = a => 1, b => 2;
camelia ( no output )
Zoffix m: my %h = a => 1, b => 2; dd %h
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«Hash %h = {:a(1), :b(2)}␤»
scott heh, I was just messing with cases involving that {} confusion
Zoffix m: my %h = :1a, :2b; dd %h
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«Hash %h = {:a(1), :b(2)}␤»
scott for multiline hashes, it seems nicer to have a delimiter around it 12:50
Zoffix
.oO( Death to parentheses! )
scott the semicolon looks really awkward when there is no delimiter
on a line by itself, or taking a place where a trailing comma should be 12:51
relatedly, I'm attempting to grok the whole variables/bindings/assignment situation in perl6. are there any important differences between `my %h = :1a, :2b` and `my Hash $h := %(:1a, :2b)` (post-creation)? they both seem to handle assignment the same way, they seem to have the same .VAR type 12:55
12:56 rindolf left 12:57 pierre_ joined
llfourn_ scott: you don't really need the 'Hash' in the second one if you want it to be like the first 12:57
also % will behave differently in for loops to $
12:57 ilbot3 left, ilbot3 joined
llfourn_ m: my %a = one => "two",three => "four"; for %a { .say } 12:58
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«three => four␤one => two␤»
llfourn_ m: my $a := %( one => "two",three => "four"); for $a { .say }
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«three => four␤one => two␤»
llfourn_ oh maybe I'm wrong about that
m: my $a := %( one => "two",three => "four"); for $a { .^name.say }
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«Pair␤Pair␤»
scott in this case $a.VAR isn't Scalar, it's Hash 12:59
llfourn_ m: my $a = %( one => "two",three => "four"); for $a { .^name.say }
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«Hash␤»
12:59 Zoffix left
llfourn_ oh you're right that's the difference 12:59
so the container type determines loop behaviour rather than the sigil
good to know :)
scott basically I'm trying to find out if I can reduce all sigils to special cases of $ to help my mental model 13:00
llfourn_ I think sigils still affect assignment 13:01
like when you use '=' rather than ':='
scott '=' seems to depend again on the container, not the sigil
once I make $h like above, assigning to it later works the same as for a normal %h 13:02
llfourn_ m: my @a = <one two three>; say @a
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«[one two three]␤»
llfourn_ m: my Array $a = <one two three>; say $a
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«Type check failed in assignment to $a; expected Array but got List ($("one", "two", "three"))␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
scott right, that's not the case I am referring to
that's assigning to a Scalar-wrapped Array 13:03
llfourn_ m: my Array $a := [one two three]; $a = <one two three>; say $a # oh I see sorry
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Undeclared routines:␤ three used at line 1␤ two used at line 1␤␤»
llfourn_ m: my Array $a := [<one two three>]; $a = <one two three>; say $a # :S
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«Cannot assign to an immutable value␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
13:03 wamba left
scott interesting 13:04
I'm unsure what makes @a mutable and $a not when their .VARs are both Array
llfourn_ you can have @a immuteable as well
13:04 rindolf joined
scott can you make that $a mutable? 13:04
llfourn_ m: my @a := <one two three>; @a = <four> 13:05
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«Cannot modify an immutable Str␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
scott oh
llfourn_ it will be mutable if we just assign to an array
m: my $a = [<one two three>; $a = <four>; say $a
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Cannot use variable $a in declaration to initialize itself␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3my $a = [<one two three>; $7⏏5a = <four>; say $a␤ expecting any of:␤ term␤»
llfourn_ m: my $a = [<one two three>]; $a = <four>; say $a; #ek 13:06
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«four␤»
llfourn_ but as sson as you := you get the container fo the RHS
which is immuteable above
of the* 13:07
scott m: my $a = [<one two three>]; say $a.VAR.WHAT
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«(Scalar)␤»
scott m: my @a = <one two three>; say @a.VAR.WHAT 13:08
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«(Array)␤»
scott m: my $a := [<one two three>]; say $a.VAR.WHAT # this is what I meant, rather
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«(Array)␤»
scott I'm curious what makes one mutable and the other not
if you compare, say, my $a = 42 and my $a := 42, one is Scalar and the other is Int
and the Scalar container makes the former mutale
mutable*
llfourn_ right. you can't assign the second one for the same reason you can't do '42 = 3' 13:09
you can't do [<one two three>] = [<four>] either 13:10
so the LHS needs to be writeable
13:11 domidumont left
scott hmm, the $h example was writeable because %(:1a, :2b) is writeable 13:13
but @(1, 2, 3) returns List, not Array
I don't know how to make a writeable array without a @ variable 13:14
llfourn_ m: my $a := [<one two three>]; $a[3] = "four"; # this should work?
camelia ( no output )
llfourn_ m: my $a := @(1,2,3); say $a.^name; 13:15
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«List␤»
llfourn_ hmm I didn't know whtat
that*
scott your example with the indexing mutates a container element, not the array
m: my $a := [<one two three>]; push $a, "four" 13:16
camelia ( no output )
scott hmm, it is writeable?
llfourn_ so Array,Hash - elements are writable. List,Map elements are not.
13:17 ilbelkyr joined
scott I still don't get what makes @a assignable 13:17
timotimo awwaiid: i like your latest blog post :)
llfourn_ scott: as opposed to $a := [..]? 13:18
scott since arrays, even when you can push to them, complain about immutable values when you assign to them
llfourn_: right
immutable is a bit of a misleading descriptor when you can add, remove, and mutate elements
13:19 grondilu joined
timotimo an array gives you a scalar container for each of the elements in it 13:19
llfourn_ scott: yeah I see what you mean. In the case of $a := [..]. it means the variable's container itself is not writable.
gfldex is there a way to import symbols from a package into the current scope?
timotimo m: (1, 2, 3, 4)[0].VAR.WHAT.say; [1, 2, 3, 4][0].VAR.WHAT.say;
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«(Int)␤(Scalar)␤»
scott timotimo: sure, that explains one of the things in my list (mutating) but not the rest
timotimo i haven't backlogged yet :) 13:20
scott you can also push to an "immutable" array
llfourn_ scott: all arrays are mutable
grondilu m: (my $ := [])[0] = pi
camelia ( no output )
llfourn_ the variable that contains the array object may not be
timotimo ah 13:21
we differentiate on the syntax level between listy assignment and itemy assignment
that's a thing that tripped me up a few times
scott llfourn_: I'm looking for confirmation of that distinction 13:22
with scalars it's obvious, like Scalar vs Int
normally a $ variable is bound to a Scalar container
grondilu [] is a scalar container
scott but so far I haven't been able to observe the container of a @ variable
it just shows up as Array 13:23
but assigning to an Array elsewhere fails
grondilu $@
llfourn_ hmm I'm not sure how you introspect the difference
grondilu stops trying to disrupt the conversation :)
timotimo m: my $foo := [<one two three>]; @$foo = <nein nein nein>; say $foo.perl 13:24
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«["nein", "nein", "nein"]␤»
timotimo m: my $foo := [<one two three>]; $foo = <nein nein nein>; say $foo.perl
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«Cannot assign to an immutable value␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
llfourn_ hmmm i didn't know you could do that
timotimo the first one uses the p6store op, the second one uses the assign op 13:25
llfourn_ so @$foo turns it into array assignment
timotimo "op" as in nqp::thething
llfourn_ mmm pretty handy :)
scott what makes @$foo different from $foo? is there any type of thing I can call on it? 13:26
all the .WHATs and .VAR.WHATs are the same
timotimo it's just a thing the parser does
i.e. it's not about the type, it's about the source code itself
13:26 pierre_ left
scott so it would not work to first bind @$foo to something and then assign to that new thing? 13:27
llfourn_ mm so it's a syntactical distiction rather than a object property
m: my $foo; @$foo := <one two three> # eh?
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Cannot use bind operator with this left-hand side␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3my $foo; @$foo := <one two three> # eh?7⏏5<EOL>␤»
llfourn_ m: my $foo; @$foo = <one two three> 13:28
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«Cannot modify an immutable Any␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
timotimo scott: correct
scott confirmed my own question in the repl
I assumed it was like @$foo returned a new type of thing, and then we assigned to that
timotimo: are there good docs on this?
timotimo not sure. if not, there ought to be :) 13:29
scott I find the variable/binding/container stuff some of the most complex stuff in perl6 so far
llfourn_ it's pretty tricky tbh :)
scott hard to see what justifies the complexity a lot of the time
13:29 andrzejku joined
scott unlike, say, operators, which look complex at first but I generally understood after just a day 13:30
llfourn_ I think auto-vivification among other things
m: my %h; my $a := %h<one>; say %h; %a = "foo"; say %h
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Variable '%a' is not declared. Did you mean '$a'?␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3my %h; my $a := %h<one>; say %h; 7⏏5%a = "foo"; say %h␤»
llfourn_ m: my %h; my $a := %h<one>; say %h; $a = "foo"; say %h 13:31
camelia rakudo-moar 539a7d: OUTPUT«{}␤{one => foo}␤»
timotimo that's definitely a tricky part, yes
but also incredibly useful
llfourn_ I am no use at exlpaining it but I also can verify the distinction between variables and containers is very useful. 13:32
dogbert17 .seen moritz 13:35
yoleaux I saw moritz 22 Sep 2016 13:51Z in #perl6: <moritz> we don't call it dumbmatch for no reason!
dogbert17 moritz: are you out there?
scott thanks for the discussion, all. 'night 13:36
timotimo gnite scott
llfourn_ night :)
13:38 rgrinberg joined 13:40 masak_ is now known as masak
masak greetings, #perl6 13:42
I see there was a netsplit storm here while I was away... :) 13:43
13:43 kaare joined, kaare is now known as Guest94548
timotimo oh, i missed that 13:44
13:46 rgrinberg left 13:47 rgrinberg joined 14:01 MilkmanDan left, setty1 left, MilkmanDan joined 14:05 skids joined 14:07 rgrinberg left
timotimo twitter.com/kelseyhightower/status...72/photo/1 - teehee 14:09
14:18 tushar joined 14:25 tushar left, rindolf left 14:28 Guest94548 left 14:29 ka left 14:30 Guest94548 joined 14:40 AlexDaniel joined 14:41 rindolf joined 14:47 ka joined 14:52 BenGoldberg joined, Xliff__ joined 14:56 domidumont joined
skids Hrm... COMPOSE{} is NYI? 15:00
Oh I guess that 15:03
's what the role body is anyway.
15:07 rgrinberg joined 15:09 Ven_ joined 15:13 ka left 15:33 Celelibi_ is now known as Celelibi 15:35 firstdayonthejob joined 15:36 Ven_ left
scott haha, once I realized what `@a[*-1]` was really doing, I came up with `@a[*/2]` and @`a[$x mod *]` 15:37
the latter of which is something that has come up in real stuff I've written 15:38
cleanest modular indexing I've seen
15:39 itaipu joined
timotimo i've used * div 2, * * 3 div 4 and * div 4 in the past to get percentiles on a sorted array 15:39
you can even put them into a list inside the same [foo]
scott yeah, nice 15:40
15:40 Ven_ joined
AlexDaniel m: say ‘foo bar’ ~~ / foo { False } / 15:41
camelia rakudo-moar 362349: OUTPUT«｢foo｣␤»
timotimo you mean <?{ False }>
alternatively <!> is a token that never matches
AlexDaniel timotimo: I did not even ask a question yet
timotimo: thank you
timotimo well ... :)
AlexDaniel <?{}> is what I needed
psch or <!{}>, maybe 15:42
timotimo <{ }> will let you interpolate the string result of code as a piece of regex
15:45 Ven_ left, skids left 15:48 Ven_ joined 15:53 Ven_ left, Ven_ joined 15:56 khw joined 15:58 Ven_ left 16:00 wamba joined 16:02 Ven_ joined 16:22 andrzejku left 16:24 domidumont left, Ven_ left, domidumont joined 16:36 tushar joined 16:37 Ven_ joined 16:41 zakharyas joined, girafe joined 16:44 Ven_ left 16:45 Actualeyes left 16:51 girafe left 17:00 lichtkind__ joined 17:02 Ven_ joined 17:03 girafe joined 17:13 Ven_ left 17:15 Ven_ joined 17:19 andrzejku joined 17:28 Ven_ left 17:32 Ven_ joined
mst hmm, how does '.foo' on its own become a method call? (and more importantly, how do I produce such a thing ;) 17:37
17:37 RabidGravy joined
scott mst: .foo with no receiver is short for $_.foo 17:40
17:40 Ven_ left
mst scott: yes 17:40
scott: how
scott mst: it's just part of the grammar. I'm not sure I understand the question 17:41
mst ok, so, I can define a postfix operator .* and $foo.* will work fine 17:42
I'm wondering how I annotate or otherwise mess with it 17:43
to be able to default to $_
17:44 zakharyas left
geekosaur you shouldn't have to, it's built into the grammar 17:44
mst ...
geekosaur oh, I see, you want a not-a-method that looks like a method call 17:45
17:45 benchable6 joined, committable6 joined
geekosaur I think you'd have to mutate the grammar to support that 17:45
17:45 bisectable6 joined
mst right, cuz as I say, I can totally do it as a postfix op 17:46
geekosaur you can't do it inside the operator definition itself, if you declared it to be postfix then it will want a term to apply the postfix to
mst right, I was wondering if there was some special magic that said "this is a postfix op that defaults to $_" 17:47
geekosaur no, I think you'd also have to declare a term:<> version if you didn't want to have to edit the grammar
17:47 Dunearhp joined 17:48 benchable6 left, committable6 left, bisectable6 left
mst where would I find docs on that? 17:48
17:49 benchable6 joined, bisectable6 joined, committable6 joined
geekosaur (also I would disrecommend .* because of the special method syntax docs.perl6.org/language/operators#postfix_.* 17:49
scott by the way, why are there methods for calling all methods?
err, operators* 17:50
17:51 rgrinberg left
timotimo mst: it might be enough to define a term that uses CALLER::<$_> for its invocant 17:51
m: sub term:<.notamethod> { CALLER::<$_>.say }; $_ = "hello mst"; .notamethod 17:52
camelia rakudo-moar e4e823: OUTPUT«hello mst␤»
timotimo mst: that tickle your fancy? :)
geekosaur hm. the existence of term:<> is mentioned in the docs for Operators, but not what that and the others mean (should be in Grammars but that is rather sparse currently)
timotimo ah, geekosaur suggested the term already
mst that would do the trick, excellent 17:53
geekosaur I guess at the moment the only documentation for those is design.perl6.org/S02.html#Grammatical_Categories 17:54
dalek ateverable: 5b9ca5d | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | / (4 files):
Use Sift4 to allow typos in bot names

For example, it will now allow you to type “omitable6”.		 17:56
AlexDaniel omitable6: HEAD say 42
committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦«HEAD»: 42
AlexDaniel bsicetable6: exit 42
bisectable6 AlexDaniel, On both starting points (old=2015.12 new=376b5f4) the exit code is 42 and the output is identical as well
AlexDaniel, Output on both points:
AlexDaniel jnthn: ↑ ;)
17:58 labster joined
AlexDaniel .tell Zoffix IRC::Client and Perl 6 are amazing. See irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2016-09-24#i_13272146 17:59
yoleaux AlexDaniel: I'll pass your message to Zoffix.
18:00 Ven_ joined
ugexe scott: you can't think of a reason to call sets of methods? 18:05
18:06 xdxdxdxd joined
xdxdxdxd How do I check if a variable is an int 18:06
timotimo do you mean Int or native int?
also, do you mean "is defined to hold" or "currently holds"? 18:07
xdxdxdxd if I did ' my $a = 1 ' and ' my $b = "hello" '
$a would be int
and $b wouldn't
how would I check that
ugexe m: role Logger1 { method log { say "logger1"; } }; role Logger2 { method log { say "logger2" } }; class MyClass { }; my $class = MyClass.new; $class does Logger1; $class.*log; $class does Logger2; $class.*log
camelia rakudo-moar e4e823: OUTPUT«logger1␤logger2␤logger1␤»
geekosaur Int, not int
timotimo xdxdxdxd: smart match ought to help with that. say $a ~~ Int; say $b ~~ Int 18:08
geekosaur $a ~~ Int
xdxdxdxd ah
didn't know you could do that with ~~
timotimo ~~ does a lot of things, one of them is type checking
FROGGS does somebody now of a Perl [5|6] Samba/CIFS server that actually works? 18:09
18:09 ocbtec left
scott ugexe: I can't think of a reason to call sets of methods with the same name on a single object 18:10
ugexe: seems aggressively niche for an operator
ugexe: I was wondering if there was some really common pattern I overlooked
ugexe i just showed one
18:11 ocbtec joined
xdxdxdxd why isn't this working: " get / ^ '/blog/' \d+ $ / => sub ($post) { ... } " 18:11
that is the get sub from Bailador btw 18:12
18:12 firstdayonthejob left
ugexe think outside the inheritance box 18:16
scott I rarely think of inheritance at all 18:17
OOP's not really my thing
xdxdxdxd how do I fix it lol 18:19
I get too many positionals passed
18:23 MasterDuke joined
ugexe if you want someone to debug these things you need to give them more to work with 18:24
m: sub get($pos) { }; get / ^ "/blog/" \d+ $ / => sub ($post) { ... }
camelia ( no output )
ugexe because the line you posted works. so you are leaving out a bunch of neccesary context 18:25
geekosaur full source and full error message to an appropriate pastebin is usually a good idea 18:26
18:26 ocbtec left
xdxdxdxd pastebin.com/XCSkvVLi does this help 18:31
18:31 zhmylove joined, Ven_ left 18:32 Ven_ joined
ugexe thats not the full error message 18:32
18:50 ilogger2 joined, ChanServ sets mode: +v ilogger2, cxreg joined, alnewkirk joined, ambs joined, hobbs joined, decent_ joined, sivoais joined, markk joined, zengargoyle joined, erdic joined, TimToady joined 18:51 ChoHag joined, tushar joined 18:52 revdiablo joined, AlexDaniel joined, Jonis joined, pmichaud joined
AlexDaniel eh 18:52
18:52 john51 joined, stmuk_ joined, tony-o joined, go|dfish joined
AlexDaniel a bit stormy today 18:52
18:56 tushar left, Jonis left, ambs left 18:57 ilogger2_ joined, nadim joined, Timbus joined, japhb_ joined, melezhik_ joined 18:58 roguelazer_ joined, hobbified joined, tsadok joined, nine_ joined, kshannon_ joined, jnthn joined 18:59 kmwallio_ joined, tony-o joined, sjn joined, poisonby_ joined, pecastro joined, hcit joined, revdiablo joined, masak joined, arnsholt joined, masak is now known as Guest98586 19:00 psch joined, literal_ joined, bisectable6 joined, sQuEE` joined 19:01 [particle] joined 19:02 NEveD joined, broquaint joined, rmmm joined, mspo_ joined, ggoebel__ joined, atacama joined, kst``` joined, mithaldu_ left 19:03 moritz_ joined, rmmm is now known as 32NAB4ASC, dalek joined, ChanServ sets mode: +v dalek, jdv79_ joined, roguelazer_ is now known as roguelazer, Lucas_One left, yeltzooo joined, eythian joined, alnewkirk joined, kmwallio_ is now known as kmwallio 19:04 perigrin joined, nemo_ joined, TheDir joined, ponbiki_ joined, PerlJam joined, Alikzus_ joined, nowan joined, andrzejku joined, gabiruh joined, mst_ joined, canopus joined, Bucciarati joined 19:05 samcv joined, pochi joined, AlexDaniel joined, huf joined, ribasushi joined, itaipu joined, avar joined, avar left, avar joined 19:06 Zoffix joined
Zoffix m: role Role { proto method foo (|) {*}; multi method foo ($x) { say "role one" } }; class Foo does Role { multi method foo (|) {*}; multi method foo (|) {say "Go it!"} }.new.foo: 42 19:06
yoleaux 17:59Z <AlexDaniel> Zoffix: IRC::Client and Perl 6 are amazing. See irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2016-09-24#i_13272146
Zoffix Is there some way to have the class's multi override the stuff provided by the role?
19:06 bob777 joined, remmie joined, andrewalker joined 19:07 chris2 joined
Zoffix Basically, I have a role that provides a bunch of methods and I want one of the classes that `does` it to die if that method is called 19:07
one particular method from that role
19:07 imcsk8 joined, zhmylove joined 19:08 tsadok is now known as jonadab, nightfrog joined, chansen_ joined, domidumont joined, grondilu joined, shmibs joined 19:09 solarbunny joined, Ulti joined 19:10 ilbot3 joined, domm1 joined, raydiak joined, shadowpaste joined, bartolin joined, lichtkind joined, akiym joined 19:11 bjz joined, xdbr joined, [Coke] joined, simcop2387 joined
Zoffix Figured it out: role Role { proto method foo (|) {*}; multi method foo ($x) { say "role one" } }; class Foo does Role { proto method foo (|) {say "Go it!"} }.new.foo: 4323 19:11
19:12 silug_ joined, ingy joined, hoelzro joined, m0ltar joined 19:13 mtj_ joined, xinming joined, wamba joined, cgfbee joined, lucs joined 19:14 k-man_ joined, ruoso joined, john51 joined, Woodi joined 19:15 RabidGravy joined, MilkmanDan joined 19:16 clkao joined, jstimpfle joined, jkva joined, camelia joined, gensym joined 19:17 stmuk_ joined, emdashcomma joined, mniip joined, pmurias joined, Gothmog_ joined 19:18 sunnavy joined, awwaiid joined, ambs joined
dalek c: 426d4e2 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Language/typesystem.pod6:
where clauses smartmatch so we don't need to smartmatch the smartmatch

Also... smartmatch		 19:18
19:18 Possum joined, peteretep joined, ChanServ sets mode: +v camelia 19:19 tbrowder joined, domidumont left, ssm joined, eyck joined, Khisanth joined, ringer1 joined, FROGGS joined 19:20 BuildTheRobots joined, gypsydave5 joined, PotatoGim joined, zoosha joined, telex joined, telex left 19:21 jkva left, dj_goku_ joined, dj_goku_ left, dj_goku_ joined 19:22 stux|RC-only left, sergot joined, telex joined, esh joined 19:23 a3r0 joined, Praise joined, Praise left, Praise joined 19:24 stux|RC-only joined, olinkl joined 19:25 tailgate joined, pmurias left, Jonis joined, w4and0er96 joined, notbenh_ joined 19:26 ggherdov joined 19:27 mithaldu_ joined 19:28 Lucas_One joined, eliasr joined, darutoko joined, darutoko left, sftp joined 19:29 Guest53008 joined, CIAvash joined, SmokeMachine____ joined, mindos joined 19:30 konobi_ joined, abruanese joined, jcallen joined, markk joined, hanekomu joined, timeless joined, ChoHag joined 19:31 pmurias joined 19:32 nebuchadnezzar joined 19:34 infina joined, sivoais joined 19:35 smash joined, mrsolo joined, Zoffix__ joined 19:36 Xliff_ joined, noganex joined, mohae_ joined 19:37 djbkd joined, dogbert2 joined, andrewalker left, kst```` joined, bob778 joined, [particle]1 joined 19:38 user10 joined, Zoffix left, Zoffix__ is now known as Zoffix, cpage_ joined, nadim_ joined 19:39 ruoso left, lucs left, xinming left, m0ltar left, bartolin left, zhmylove left, imcsk8 left, itaipu left, [particle] left, literal_ left, psch left, melezhik_ left, Timbus left, user10 is now known as user9, obfusk_ joined, ranguard left, sivoais left, Guest53008 left, [Coke] left, lichtkind left, nightfrog left, bob777 left, kst``` left, nadim left, crucialrhyme left, bob778 is now known as bob777 19:40 ShimmerFairy joined, itaipu joined, El_Che joined, garu joined, captain-adequate joined, Unavowed joined, dsp_ joined, mattp_ joined 19:42 ufobat joined, moritz_ is now known as moritz 19:43 eliasr left, rudi_s joined 19:45 TEttinger joined, Timbus joined, m0ltar joined 19:46 bartolin joined 19:48 eliasr joined 19:49 imcsk8 joined, zhmylove joined 19:50 protium joined 19:51 ruoso joined, noganex_ joined, djbkd_ joined, ufobat left, Zoffix__ joined, xiaomiao joined 19:52 [particle] joined, [particle]1 left, ugexe joined 19:53 mohae joined, cpage_ left, konobi_ left, emdashcomma left, garu left, El_Che left, user9 left, djbkd left, tailgate left, zoosha left, gypsydave5 left, eyck left, awwaiid left, chris2 left, user10 joined 19:54 user10 is now known as user9, zoosha_ joined, bartolin left, Unavowed left, captain-adequate left, itaipu left, ShimmerFairy left, bob777 left, dogbert2 left, mohae_ left, noganex left, Zoffix left, nebuchadnezzar left, pmurias left, hanekomu left, markk left, jcallen left, CIAvash left, Praise left, esh left, sergot left, dj_goku_ left, FROGGS left, ringer1 left, ambs left, sunnavy left, Gothmog_ left, gensym left, vytas joined, lucs joined, Jonis left, andrewalker joined 19:55 konobi joined, konobi is now known as Guest26058 19:56 chris2 joined, mniip left 19:57 skaji joined, wamba left, zacts joined 20:00 Zoffix__ is now known as Zoffix 20:01 andrzejku left 20:02 melezhik joined 20:03 jcallen joined, mniip joined 20:04 Upasaka joined, gensym joined, Praise- joined, Praise- left, Praise- joined, mst_ is now known as mst, mst left, mst joined 20:05 captain-adequate joined, krunen joined, bob777 joined, nightfrog joined, dogbert2 joined 20:06 sivoais joined, esh joined, markk joined, emdashcomma joined, Praise- is now known as Praise, freeze joined, lichtkind joined 20:07 FROGGS joined, gypsydave5 joined, Gothmog joined, Gothmog is now known as Gothmog_, awwaiid joined, ShimmerFairy joined 20:08 ambs joined, FROGGS left, cpage_ joined, psch joined, f3ew joined 20:09 giraffe_ joined, eyck joined, dj_goku joined, dj_goku left, dj_goku joined 20:10 Jonis joined 20:11 garu joined 20:12 user10 joined 20:13 bartolin joined 20:15 cpage_ left, emdashcomma left, ribasushi left, nightfrog left, canopus left, ponbiki_ left, kmwallio left, zostay left, jonadab left 20:16 hobbified left, Alikzus joined, perlpilot joined 20:17 bartolin left, jcallen_ joined, notostraca joined, Upasaka_ joined, jstimpfl1 joined, woodruffw joined, woodruffw left, woodruffw joined, woodruffw left, skaji_ joined, mattp__ joined, AlexDani` joined, woodruffw joined, woodruffw left, woodruffw joined, woodruffw left, nadim joined, cosimo joined, avuserow joined, [particle]1 joined, nemo joined, woodruffw joined, nemo is now known as Guest45219, sergot joined, dsp__ joined, yeltzooo9 joined, Xliff joined, a3r0_ joined, MilkmanD1n joined, shadowpaste0 joined, djbkd joined, captain-1dequate joined, noganex joined, ambs_ joined, felher joined, yubimusubi joined, user9 left, timeless left, peteretep left, clkao left, chansen_ left, sivoais left, skaji left, andrewalker left, [particle] left, eliasr left, ggherdov left, tbrowder left, Jonis left, dj_goku left, awwaiid left, Gothmog_ left, bob777 left, Guest26058 left, protium left, zhmylove left, Timbus left, TEttinger left, dsp_ left, stux|RC-only left, BuildTheRobots left, Woodi left, k-man_ left, silug_ left, raydiak left, akiym left, grondilu left, Bucciarati left, mst left, gabiruh left, PerlJam left, jdv79_ left, eyck left, ambs left, ShimmerFairy left, giraffe_ left, lichtkind left, esh left, krunen left, captain-adequate left, Praise left, Upasaka left, gensym left, jcallen left, melezhik left, lucs left, vytas left, chris2 left, zoosha_ left, mohae left, xiaomiao left, Zoffix left, djbkd_ left, noganex_ left, ruoso left, imcsk8 left, m0ltar left, rudi_s left, mattp_ left, obfusk_ left, nadim_ left, kst```` left, Xliff_ left, mrsolo left, smash left, ChoHag left, abruanese left, a3r0 left, telex left, PotatoGim left, Khisanth left, Possum left, stmuk_ left, camelia left, jstimpfle left, RabidGravy left, MilkmanDan left, john51 left, cgfbee left, mtj_ left, ingy left, bjz left, shadowpaste left, ilbot3 left, Ulti left, shmibs left, simcop2387 left, remmie left, avar left, huf left, AlexDaniel left, pochi left, Alikzus_ left, nemo_ left, eythian left, dalek left, yeltzooo left, ssm left, xdbr left, bob777 joined, zoosha joined, user10 is now known as user9, huf_ joined, esh_ joined, dalek joined, ChanServ sets mode: +v dalek, xdbr joined 20:18 samcv left, El_Che joined, bjz_ joined, hobbs joined, obfusk joined, bartolin joined, ggoebel__ left, notostraca is now known as TEttinger, silug_ joined, nightfrog joined, Bucciarati joined, krunen joined, leego joined, luis joined, TimToady joined, girafe joined, [ptc] joined, TheDir left 20:19 xiaomiao joined, ssm joined, lizmat joined, samcv joined, cgfbee joined, cpage_ joined, john51 joined, ShimmerFairy joined, m0ltar joined, rudi_s joined 20:20 ribasushi joined, gabiruh joined, Unavowed joined, pmurias joined, k-man_ joined, mohae joined, eythian joined, akiym joined, jonadab joined, Praise- joined, Praise- left, Praise- joined, ggoebel joined 20:21 Timbus joined, raydiak joined, andrewalker joined, shmibs joined, canopus joined, kst```` joined 20:22 emdashcomma joined, vytas joined, remmie joined, RabidGravy joined 20:23 ruoso joined 20:25 cpage_ left 20:26 chris2 joined, m0ltar left, gabiruh_ joined, samcv left, broquaint left 20:27 remmie left, mohae left, john51 left, leego left, zoosha_ joined, [ptc] left, girafe left, camelia joined, leego joined
gfldex m: enum E <A B>; sub f(){ "foo" but A }; put f(); 20:27
20:28 El_Che_ joined, gensym joined 20:29 ruoso left, xiaomiao left, canopus left, k-man_ left, NeuralAnomaly joined 20:30 shmibs left, bisectable6 left 20:31 huggable joined, ggoebel left, f3ew left, mtj_ joined, eyck joined 20:32 avar joined, avar left, avar joined, pmurias_ joined, Guest45219 is now known as nemo, NeuralAnomaly left, NeuralAnomaly joined, remmie joined, gabiruh left, andrewalker left, raydiak left, eythian left, akiym left, pmurias left, El_Che left, dalek left, zoosha left, RabidGravy left, emdashcomma left, jonadab left, rudi_s left, ShimmerFairy left, cgfbee left, bob777 left, ssm left, bisectable6_ joined, dalek joined, ChanServ sets mode: +v dalek, Ulti joined
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«foo␤» 20:32
20:32 riatre_ joined, ChanServ sets mode: +v camelia, ilbot3 joined, khw joined 20:33 protium joined, zhmylove joined, solarbunny left, esh_ left, hobbs left, RabidGravy joined, lichtkind joined, eythian joined, abruanese joined, [Coke] joined, samcv joined, xiaomiao joined, vytas left, girafe2 joined, tbrowder joined, dj_goku joined, dj_goku left, dj_goku joined 20:34 Gothmog joined, zengargoyle joined, k-man__ joined, Gothmog is now known as Gothmog_, eliasr joined, akiym joined, Khisanth joined, Woodi joined, ShimmerFairy joined, ssm joined, canopus joined, ruoso joined, mohae joined 20:35 andrewalker joined, Jonis joined, stmuk joined, ChoHag joined, vytas joined, emdashcomma joined, jast joined, simcop2387 joined, simcop2387 left, simcop2387 joined, shmibs joined, kmwallio joined 20:36 ingy joined, Guest36361 joined, esh joined, llfourn joined, stux|RC-only joined, raydiak joined, m0ltar joined, TheDir joined, konobi_ joined, itaipu joined 20:37 [ptc] joined, firstdayonthejob joined, pochi joined, ringer1 joined, jdv79 joined, zostay joined 20:38 grondilu joined, cgfbee joined, hobbs joined, solarbunny joined, sivoais joined, telex joined 20:39 f3ew joined, awwaiid joined, ranguard joined, hobbs left, hobbs joined, Guest98586 is now known as masak, jonadab joined
masak holy netsplit, Batman 20:40
20:40 xinming joined, ggherdov joined
masak I like the thing someone said -- "nothing prepared me for the reality of Eric Brewer's CAP theorem like IRC netsplits" 20:40
20:41 lucs joined, bob777 joined, hanekomu joined 20:42 literal joined, dj_goku_ joined, broquaint joined, john51 joined 20:43 noganex_ joined, Xliff_ joined, sunnavy joined, notostraca joined, djbkd_ joined 20:44 ggoebel joined, rudi_s joined, ponbiki joined, pmurias_ left, [particle] joined 20:45 luis left, ribasushi left, ponbiki is now known as Guest24694
stmuk ddos :( 20:45
20:45 krunen_ joined, Timbus left, [particle]1 left, infina left, jcallen joined 20:46 bartolin left, felher left, noganex left, djbkd left, sergot left, cosimo left, avuserow left, TEttinger left, awwaiid left, TheDir left, MilkmanD1n left
El_Che_ :( 20:46
20:46 rindolf joined, remmie left, avar left, TimToady left, obfusk left, bjz_ left, ambs_ left, shadowpaste0 left, a3r0_ left, dsp__ left, nemo left, nadim left, skaji_ left, Upasaka_ left, jonadab left, notostraca is now known as TEttinger
TEttinger :( 20:46
20:47 nightfrog left, yubimusubi left, captain-1dequate left, Xliff left, woodruffw left, yeltzooo9 left, AlexDani` left, mattp__ left, jcallen_ left, mattp_ joined, ft joined, nadim joined, sergot joined 20:48 avar joined, nemo joined, Upasaka joined, ambs joined, obfusk joined, TimToady joined, bisectable6 joined, spider-mario joined, nemo is now known as Guest68793, mst joined, raydiak left, mohae left 20:49 riatre joined, zostay left, Guest36361 left, bjz joined 20:51 samcv_ joined, bonsaikitten joined, skaji joined, nightfrog joined, mohae joined, Timbus joined, camelia left, woodruffw joined, woodruffw left 20:52 emdashcomma left, andrewalker left, bisectable6_ left, k-man__ left, dj_goku left, tbrowder left, protium left, ggherdov left, cgfbee left, canopus left, xiaomiao left, samcv left, lichtkind left, ilbot3 left, riatre_ left, dalek left, mniip left, melezhik joined, canopus joined, emdashcomma joined, imcsk8 joined, woodruffw joined, TheDir joined, jonadab joined, luis` joined, raydiak joined, hobbs left, solarbunny left, yeltzooo joined 20:53 camelia joined, ilbot3 joined, mniip joined, john51 left, Praise- is now known as Praise, andrewalker joined, ribasushi joined, bartolin joined 20:54 k-man__ joined, mrsolo joined, lichtkind joined, cosimo joined 20:55 ChanServ sets mode: +v camelia, BenGoldberg joined, remmie joined, captain-adequate joined 20:56 hobbs joined, solarbunny joined, protium joined, cgfbee joined 20:57 Cabanossi joined, smash joined 20:58 BuildTheRobots joined, felher joined, john51 joined, timeless joined 20:59 shadowpaste joined 21:00 avuserow joined, clkao joined 21:02 a3r0 joined, Possum joined 21:03 cdg joined 21:04 nebuchadnezzar joined, john51 left 21:05 dsp_ joined, giraffe_ joined, Xliff_ left 21:06 Xliff_ joined 21:09 MilkmanDan joined 21:13 awwaiid joined, chansen_ joined 21:14 zostay joined, ggherdov joined 21:15 pnu_ joined, peteretep joined 21:17 vcv joined
timotimo :( 21:17
mst stability will return to the kingdom soon enough 21:18
21:24 PotatoGim joined, yoleaux joined 21:25 ChanServ sets mode: +v yoleaux, girafe2 left
masak "ddos", aka "people can be such jerks sometimes" 21:27
21:28 john51 joined, cdg left, canopus left 21:29 giraffe_ left 21:30 tbrowder joined 21:31 labster joined, [ptc] left, giraffe_ joined 21:32 bob777 left, camelia left 21:33 yoleaux left, Cabanossi left, lichtkind left, bob777 joined, perl6user joined, richi235 joined
perl6user What is the fastest way to find out how many files are in a directory? 21:33
grondilu including subdirectories? 21:34
perl6user no just main directories
21:34 canopus joined
perl6user just main directory* 21:34
BenGoldberg my $cunt = +dir('dirname') should do it, I think. 21:35
masak m: say +dir()
21:35 Cabanossi joined
BenGoldberg Err, count! 21:35
grondilu BenGoldberg++ typo of the day :)
BenGoldberg grumbles at his stupid fingers.
timotimo that also counts folders as files 21:36
perl6user It will work for me, thanks BenGoldberg
BenGoldberg Hmm, it looks like camelia is on the wrong side of the netsplit, or perhaps is offline. 21:37
21:37 lichtkind joined
timotimo it could be dir() is disallowed in the restricted setting anyway 21:38
grondilu if you want regular files I think you can grep(* ~~ :f) 21:39
21:39 vike joined, [ptc] joined, scott joined
scott pretty easy to count only files, with dir(dirname).grep(*.f) 21:39
21:40 scott is now known as Guest77506
timotimo does it give you the .IO automatically? 21:40
grondilu I first tried grep(:f) and thought that would work.
21:40 camelia joined
timotimo nah, because that's a named parameter to the grep method 21:40
you'd have to put extra parens if you meant a Pair object
and at that point *.f is shorter
grondilu indeed
Guest77506 timotimo: top-level dir does 21:41
21:41 b2gills joined
Guest77506 you could write dirname.IO.dir.grep(*.f) equivalently 21:41
21:41 ChanServ sets mode: +v camelia
BenGoldberg Or dirname.IO.dir.grep(:f(True)) 21:42
Guest77506 by the way... why is is that Path is constructed by .IO instead of .Path?
21:42 infina joined
BenGoldberg m: dir('.').say 21:42
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«(".cpanm".IO ".local".IO ".npm".IO ".perl6".IO ".perlbrew".IO ".rcc".IO ".ssh".IO "Perlito".IO "evalbot".IO "log".IO "nqp-js".IO "p1".IO "p2".IO "perl5".IO "std".IO ".bash_history".IO ".bashrc".IO "mbox".IO ".lesshst".IO "evalbot.log".IO ".cpan".IO "dalek-…»
timotimo neat.
BenGoldberg m: dir('.').&[+].say
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«51␤»
ugexe m: dir.say
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«(".cpanm".IO ".local".IO ".npm".IO ".perl6".IO ".perlbrew".IO ".rcc".IO ".ssh".IO "Perlito".IO "evalbot".IO "log".IO "nqp-js".IO "p1".IO "p2".IO "perl5".IO "std".IO ".bash_history".IO ".bashrc".IO "mbox".IO ".lesshst".IO "evalbot.log".IO ".cpan".IO "dalek-…»
BenGoldberg m: dir('.').grep(:f(True).&[+].say
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Unable to parse expression in argument list; couldn't find final ')' ␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3dir('.').grep(:f(True).&[+].say7⏏5<EOL>␤»
BenGoldberg m: dir('.').grep(:f(True)).&[+].say
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«Cannot resolve caller grep(Seq: :f); none of these signatures match:␤ ($: Bool:D $t, *%_)␤ ($: Mu $t, *%_)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
timotimo you still need extra parens 21:43
BenGoldberg m: dir('.').grep((:f)).&[+].say
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«14␤»
BenGoldberg m: dir('.').grep((:d)).&[+].say
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«37␤»
Guest77506 that grep calls the keys as methods on the elements or what?
ugexe m: say +dir(test => *.IO.f) 21:44
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«14␤»
Guest77506 I see, it's smart matching, and I'm just unfamiliar with Pair smart matching 21:45
BenGoldberg m: dir('.', :d).&[+].say 21:46
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«51␤»
BenGoldberg m: dir('.', :f).&[+].say
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«51␤»
BenGoldberg m: dir('.', *.say).&[+].say
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«Too many positionals passed; expected 1 argument but got 2␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
BenGoldberg m: dir('.', none('.', '..')).&[+].say
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«Too many positionals passed; expected 1 argument but got 2␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
BenGoldberg m: &dir.perl.say 21:47
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«sub dir (| is raw) { #`(Sub|58839432) ... }␤»
timotimo m: say <foo FOO fOo FoO>.grep((:uc(FOO)))
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Undeclared name:␤ FOO used at line 1␤␤»
timotimo m: say <foo FOO fOo FoO>.grep((:uc<FOO>)) 21:48
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«(foo FOO fOo FoO)␤»
21:48 MilkmanD1n joined, richi238 joined
Guest77506 does this kind of smart matching only list on single Pairs? 21:49
seems to fail with lists of pairs
only work on*
BenGoldberg m: (!<foo FOO fOo FoO>, :uc<FOO>).grep((:uc<FOO>)).say 21:50
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«(False uc => FOO)␤»
timotimo only a single pair
but you can make a junction of pairs
no, wait
21:50 chansen_ left, literal left
BenGoldberg m: (|<foo FOO fOo FoO>, |:uc<FOO>).grep((:uc<FOO>)).say 21:50
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«(foo FOO fOo FoO uc => FOO)␤»
timotimo don't :)
haha, that's cool :)
Guest77506 docs.perl6.org/type/Pair doesn't seem to specify smartmatch behaviour
docs.perl6.org/language/operators#infix_~~ only says a little bit, but not Pair
oh, I forgot ACCEPTS
21:51 melezhik_ joined, raydiak left
Guest77506 Pair doesn't list an ACCEPTS override either 21:51
what gives?
21:51 dsp_ left
Guest77506 it's not in this list either docs.perl6.org/routine/ACCEPTS 21:52
21:52 wtw joined
BenGoldberg I'd expect ~~ to be a multi sub 21:52
timotimo nope, it just calls the ACCEPTS method on the matcher
21:52 Cabanossi left, hobbs left, solarbunny left, vike left, richi235 left, perl6user left, peteretep left, MilkmanDan left, nebuchadnezzar left, avuserow left, BuildTheRobots left, cgfbee left, cosimo left, mrsolo left, ilbot3 left, imcsk8 left, emdashcomma left, melezhik left, yeltzooo left, luis` left 21:53 rjbs joined
BenGoldberg So there's probably a multi sub infix:<~~>( IO::Path, Pair ) somewhere. 21:53
I do notice that docs.perl6.org/type/IO$COLON$COLONPath says you can do ~~ with an IO::Path on the left and a pair on the right... 21:54
21:54 rgrinberg joined
timotimo no, there is not 21:54
21:55 Cabanossi joined, cosimo joined
timotimo a ~~ b is a very direct call to b.ACCEPTS(a) 21:55
BenGoldberg Hmm...
Guest77506 there's no multi overload of the operator, but there should be an ACCEPTS methods defined on Pair somewhere
21:55 vike joined
Guest77506 but it's not in the docs afaict 21:55
BenGoldberg s: Pair, "ACCEPTS" 21:56
21:56 wtw left
BenGoldberg Sourcebaby's not online either (or on the wrong side of the netsplit) 21:56
21:57 profan joined 21:58 literal joined 21:59 canopus left, rjbs left 22:00 awwaiid left 22:01 NeuralAnomaly left 22:03 nomore22 joined
nomore22 p6: for <a b c> <-> $word { ++$word.say } 22:05
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«Parameter '$word' expected a writable container, but got Str value␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
22:05 ilbot3 joined, wtw joined 22:07 infina left, infina joined, rgrinberg left, Guest77506 left, Guest77506 joined, Guest77506 left, Guest77506 joined, Guest77506 left 22:09 mrsolo joined 22:10 samcv_ is now known as samcv
timotimo m: my @a = <a b c>; for @a <-> $word { ++$word.say } 22:10
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«a␤Cannot resolve caller prefix:<++>(Bool); none of these signatures match:␤ (Mu:D $a is rw)␤ (Mu:U $a is rw)␤ (Int:D $a is rw)␤ (int $a is rw)␤ (Bool $a is rw)␤ (Num:D $a is rw)␤ (Num:U $a is rw)␤ (num $a is rw)␤…»
timotimo m: my @a = 1, 2, 3, 4; for @a <-> $word { ++$word.say }
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«1␤Cannot resolve caller prefix:<++>(Bool); none of these signatures match:␤ (Mu:D $a is rw)␤ (Mu:U $a is rw)␤ (Int:D $a is rw)␤ (int $a is rw)␤ (Bool $a is rw)␤ (Num:D $a is rw)␤ (Num:U $a is rw)␤ (num $a is rw)␤…»
timotimo oh, haha
m: my @a = <a b c>; for @a <-> $word { (++$word).say }
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«b␤c␤d␤»
timotimo m: my @a = <a b c>; for @a <-> $word { ($word++).say }; say @a;
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«a␤b␤c␤[b c d]␤»
22:11 dsp_ joined, rjbs joined 22:12 bpmedley joined 22:13 Guest77506 joined, raydiak joined, chansen_ joined, perl6user joined, peteretep joined, avuserow joined, BuildTheRobots joined, cgfbee joined, yeltzooo joined, luis` joined, imcsk8 joined, emdashcomma joined, konobi_ is now known as konobi, chansen_ left, chansen_ joined, Guest77506 left, Guest77506 joined, awwaiid joined
gfldex m: sub f(){ "foo" but role :: { method side-channel { "bar" } } }; my $a = f; say [$a.WHAT, $a, $a.side-channel] 22:13
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«[(Str+{<anon|79641184>}) foo bar]␤»
22:14 hobbs joined, solarbunny joined, cgfbee left
gfldex m: enum E <A B>; sub f(){ "foo" but role :: { method E { E::A } } }; my $a = f; say $a.E 22:15
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«A␤»
22:17 nadim left, BuildTheRobots left 22:21 canopus joined 22:22 NeuralAnomaly joined 22:23 huggable left, RabidGravy left, huggable joined
gfldex m: enum E <A B>; my $a = 42 but E; dd $a.WHAT, $a ~~ E 22:23
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«Int+{E}␤Bool::False␤»
22:23 buggable joined
gfldex is this a bug? 22:24
22:24 BuildTheRobots joined
gfldex m: role E {}; my $a = 42 but E; dd $a.WHAT, $a ~~ E 22:25
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«Int+{E}␤Bool::True␤»
gfldex m: class E {}; my $a = 42 but E; dd $a.WHAT, $a ~~ E
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«Cannot mix in non-composable type E into object of type Int␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
gfldex i think it should either complain the same way then with class or just work
m: class E {}; my $a = 42 but E.new; dd $a.WHAT, $a ~~ E
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«Int+{<anon|73266432>}␤Bool::False␤»
22:25 cgfbee joined 22:27 tailgate joined 22:35 BenGoldberg left
grondilu I don't think so. 22:42
m: my $str = "pi" but pi; say $str + 1;
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«Cannot convert string to number: base-10 number must begin with valid digits or '.' in '3⏏5pi' (indicated by ⏏)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤Actually thrown at:␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
grondilu oh wait, I thought that would work 22:43
nvm 22:44
22:44 nomore22 left, firstdayonthejob left
grondilu wait: 22:45
If you put something that is not a role on the right hand side of the
"does" or "but" operators then an anonymous role will be auto-generated
containing a single method that returns that value.
^from S14
when you do $a but $someEnum; it creates an anonymous role, so it won't mach the initial type. 22:46
zengargoyle iirc, you need to somehow mark it an an Int. i'm assuming you want $str.Str ~~ 'pi'; $str.Int ~~ pi 22:47
grondilu m: my $str = "pi" but pi; say $str.Num + 1;
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«4.14159265358979␤»
grondilu indeed
so my point was: 22:48
m: my $str = "pi" but pi; say $str ~~ Num; # should be False
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«False␤»
22:49 rgrinberg joined
grondilu m: my $str = "pi" but pi; say $str.Rat 22:49
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«Cannot convert string to number: base-10 number must begin with valid digits or '.' in '3⏏5pi' (indicated by ⏏)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤Actually thrown at:␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
grondilu is a bit confused
m: say pi.WHAT 22:50
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«(Num)␤»
grondilu isn't pi defined as a Rat?
zengargoyle i did something like this in one of my modules but forget the details. $rv strings to matched thing, bools to found, ints to line-number
grondilu checked in the core and no, it's defined as a Num.
(which is totally fine of course) 22:51
22:51 ilmari[m] joined
grondilu that being said, I'm slightly disappointed that ($ but 1) + 1 doesn't just give 2. 22:52
zengargoyle ponders π being a rational and possibly causing the universe to *plode 22:53
grondilu m: say ("" but 1) + 1 22:54
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«1␤»
grondilu m: say ("foo!" but 1) + 1 22:55
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«Cannot convert string to number: base-10 number must begin with valid digits or '.' in '3⏏5foo!' (indicated by ⏏)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤Actually thrown at:␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
grondilu o_O
Guest77506 that's just the normal Str to Num parsing
m: say +""
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«0␤»
Xliff_ Universe - $u; Multiverse - @u; Named Universes - %u; WTF - \u
grondilu I thought that did not existed in perl6 anymore.
meh 22:56
Xliff_ Actually, s/Named Unviverses/Easy Access Multiverse/
Xliff_ just finished a novel series involving cross-time travel. 22:57
22:59 rgrinberg left
gfldex m: enum E <A B>; say E.defined; 23:00
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«False␤»
23:01 rgrinberg joined
gfldex m: enum E <A B>; sub f { "foo" but E::A }; dd f.E 23:01
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«E $val = E::A␤»
23:04 chris2 left
gfldex m: enum E <A B>; sub f { "foo" but P::E::A }; dd f.E 23:04
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«Could not find symbol '&A'␤ in sub f at <tmp> line 1␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤Actually thrown at:␤ in sub f at <tmp> line 1␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
gfldex m: enum E <A B>; sub f { "foo" but E::A }; dd f.E
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«E $val = E::A␤»
gfldex m: package P { enum E <A B> }; sub f { "foo" but P::E::A }; dd f.E 23:05
camelia rakudo-moar e8a61d: OUTPUT«E $val = E::A␤»
23:07 chris2 joined 23:08 dalek joined, ChanServ sets mode: +v dalek 23:10 Undercover joined, SourceBaby joined 23:13 bisectable6 left, benchable6 joined 23:14 committable6 joined, bisectable6 joined 23:19 labster left
perl6user Is there any http server module like HTTP::Server::Simple that supports SSL currently? 23:27
23:30 labster joined 23:31 stevieb joined 23:36 pierrot joined 23:39 djbkd_ left 23:43 yoleaux joined, ChanServ sets mode: +v yoleaux 23:51 silug_ is now known as silug 23:52 nbrown joined 23:53 nbrown left 23:54 tushar joined 23:56 itaipu left
ugexe it should be very little effort to swap in IO::Socke::SSL in place of IO::Socket::INET in HTTP::Server::Simple if you're feeling frisky 23:56
you could change $!socket to $.socket, so you can just pass in your own socket for instance 23:58

Powered by Cro and the Raku® Programming Language.

Please report any issues / comments / feature requests as an issue on App::Raku::Log.

Thank you!