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Set by moritz on 22 December 2015.
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[Coke] If so, why do we even have that option? :) 00:15
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timotimo because if you don't have inline::python, we still want you to have syntax highlighting 00:15
oh, maybe the doc build would be a good opportunity for nine to optimize inline::python 00:16
[Coke] we already require a few modules. doesn't seem like a big deal to require one more.
timotimo though i fear it's probably only a very few calls that are drowned out by perl6 work time
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[Coke] yay, it finished. 00:20
timotimo yay 00:24
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[Coke] ... and search didn't seem to pick up on my changes. hurm. 00:28
timotimo is that perhaps a separate step?
[Coke] hurm. Inline::Python install fails for me, cannot find pyhelper.c:1:10: fatal error: 'Python.h' file not found 00:30
timotimo ah 00:31
install python-dev or python-devel
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[Coke] nosuch package on macports. swear i had this working at somepoint. (there are many py-*-devel packages. no idea which one is right) 00:34
timotimo does macports have something like "apt-file" or "dnf provides"?
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geekosaur port provides 00:36
[Coke] guessing, "which port provides this executable I'm looking for"?
geekosaur but only for installed ports; variants make the problem of uninstalled ports rather difficult 00:37
.oO(Duke Nukem Forever provides?)
timotimo well, apt-file and dnf provides work based on file-per-package lists they download separately
geekosaur (debian and fedora ship prepopulated databases generated for every installable package. variants change what files a port can install, so the equivalent file is rather large)
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ZzZombo m: my \self = π; say self 01:29
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤'self' used where no object is available␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3my \self = π; say 7⏏5self␤ expecting any of:␤ argument list␤ term␤»
ZzZombo m: my \sеlf = π; say sеlf
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«3.14159265358979␤»
ZzZombo WTF? 01:30
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MasterDuke m: say 'self'.uninames 01:35
MasterDuke m: say 'sеlf'.uninames 01:36
yoleaux AlexDaniel: go through clog and see if there are any other < > cases that are obviously wrong 01:38
AlexDaniel .in 1d go through clog and see if there are any other < > cases that are obviously wrong
yoleaux AlexDaniel: I'll remind you on 2 Dec 2016 01:38Z
AlexDaniel :P
unicodable6 AlexDaniel, Found nothing!
AlexDaniel :(
unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+02B0 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL H [Lm] (ʰ)
AlexDaniel, U+02B2 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL J [Lm] (ʲ)
AlexDaniel, gist.github.com/9e9ba0755e9aefa43c...06d4081ef2 01:41
AlexDaniel u: Lm space
unicodable6 AlexDaniel, Found nothing!
AlexDaniel u: Lm 01:43
unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+02B0 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL H [Lm] (ʰ)
AlexDaniel, U+02B2 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL J [Lm] (ʲ)
AlexDaniel, gist.github.com/b5cd8f0e7db5642cdb...78c776247f
AlexDaniel m: my \ꘌ = 42; say ꘌ == ꘌ 01:44
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«True␤»
AlexDaniel m: my \ꓼ = 42; say 5+ꓼ 01:45
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«47␤»
ZzZombo m: my \хрясь=2;put ++хрясь 01:46
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«Cannot resolve caller prefix:<++>(Int); the following candidates␤match the type but require mutable arguments:␤ (Mu:D $a is rw)␤ (Int:D $a is rw)␤␤The following do not match for other reasons:␤ (Bool $a is rw)␤ (Mu:U $a is rw)␤ …»
ZzZombo m: my \хрясь=2;put хрясь 01:47
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«2␤»
AlexDaniel m: my \х=2; say х Xx х × х xx х 01:49
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«(2222 2222)␤»
ZzZombo stop having fun :V 01:51
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TimToady is suddenly rather glad he didn't make the optional... 01:58
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thowe Hello. 02:25
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AlexDaniel 🙋 02:29
thowe hm, that must be something my font doesn't have. 02:30
AlexDaniel u: 🙋 02:31
unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+1F64B HAPPY PERSON RAISING ONE HAND [So] (🙋)
thowe So... Interesting. WHat does one need on a Debian box to have all of these unicode characters?
AlexDaniel thowe: ttf-unifont package is a must 02:32
but this one should be rendered by something else, actually 02:33
MasterDuke fonts-noto maybe
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AlexDaniel yea, I have fonts-noto-mono installed 02:34
thowe OK, now I see you waving. The next question is, how do you type these things? have them someplace you can paste in? Keyboard mapping? 02:36
AlexDaniel thowe: compose key 02:41
I have a custom keyboard layout, so yes, I have added some commonly used characters there 02:42
but most people use compose key for everything
thowe not even sure what "compose key" means
AlexDaniel well, dead keys too, but I don't think these ones can help with emojis
thowe: google it :) 02:43
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thowe problem is alt key wants to be menu shortcut in word processor... 02:49
still, now I know how to type an 􏿽xF1 if there isn't a menu. 02:53
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thowe Anyone know if Util is ever around? 02:53
TimToady this could easily be determined by searching the ir clogs 02:58
MasterDuke .seen Util
yoleaux I saw Util 9 Oct 2016 22:28Z in #perl6: <Util> p3rln00b: thanks!
thowe ah ".seen". Hm. Bummer. I wanted to say "Hi"> 02:59
AlexDaniel thowe: you make it sound like alt is the only key on your keyboard :) 03:08
thowe: for example, you can use caps lock as a button for your compose key
thowe I think what I would want to do is probably map the Windows button. I don't use it for anything else. 03:09
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TimToady that's what I do 03:14
AlexDaniel is using both Super and Hyper buttons all the time
thowe: do you have Ctrl on caps lock or something? 03:18
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thowe I haven't made any alterations 03:21
TimToady my keyboard doesn't even have caps lock, except occasionally by accident
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TimToady it has home/end where caps lock should be, if it wasn't where control was supposed to be instead of where it is... :) 03:22
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AlexDaniel TimToady: does not sound too bad 03:23
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thowe is excited for the Learning Perl6 book. 03:27
If I can have a book at the office, I can make an argument for rewriting my invoice processor in Perl6. 03:28
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AlexDaniel Changing caps lock to any other key is a win anyway 03:30
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ZzZombo Can we get --ll-exception to print paths using OS-aware path separators? 03:37
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ZzZombo why the hack: 03:46
m: gist.github.com/ZzZombo/5caa51f9b2...556920a0d8
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«Perl6::Metamodel::ClassHOW.new␤No such method 'find_private_method' for invocant of type 'Perl6::Metamodel::PackageHOW'␤ in block at <tmp> line 48␤ in method handler at <tmp> line 44␤ in submethod tweak at <tmp> line 15␤ in block <unit> at <…»
ZzZombo why does it look into Perl6::Metamodel::PackageHOW instead of Perl6::Metamodel::ClassHOW??
TimToady would be more excited about the LP book if he knew it wouldn't be written with that barfaliciously pythonic bracket style 03:47
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thowe not sure what this message means... when doing ""Howdy World".^methods(:local).join(',')" I get a message "Control flow commands not allowed in toplevel". 04:00
what does that mean? 04:01
join is a control flow command? 04:02
ZzZombo m: "Howdy World".^methods(:local).join(',') 04:04
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«Submethod object coerced to string (please use .gist or .perl to do that)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤Method object coerced to string (please use .gist or .perl to do that)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤Method object coerced to string (pl…»
ZzZombo m: dd "Howdy World".^methods(:local).join(',')
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«Submethod object coerced to string (please use .gist or .perl to do that)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤Method object coerced to string (please use .gist or .perl to do that)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤Method object coerced to string (pl…»
ZzZombo m: dd "Howdy World".^methods(:local) 04:05
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«(submethod BUILD (Str $: :$value = "", *%_ --> Nil) { #`(Submethod|46742088) ... }, method Int (Str:D $: *%_) { #`(Method|46742240) ... }, method Num (Str:D $: *%_) { #`(Method|46742392) ... }, method chomp (Str:D $: *%_) { #`(Method|46742544) ... }, metho…»
ZzZombo m: put "Howdy World".^methods(:local).join(',')
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«Submethod object coerced to string (please use .gist or .perl to do that)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤Method object coerced to string (please use .gist or .perl to do that)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤Method object coerced to string (pl…»
ZzZombo I don't get your results. 04:06
thowe might be a REPL thing(?)
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thowe hm. I was just trying an example from docs.perl6.org/language/classtut#Introspection 04:11
"say $o.^methods(:local).join(', ');" 04:12
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ZzZombo I think it's a mistake then. You shouldn't stringify methods like that. It probably meant to concat their names only. 04:13
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ZzZombo m: put ("Howdy World".^methods(:local)>>.name).join(',') 04:14
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«BUILD,Int,Num,chomp,subst,pred,succ,ords,parse-base,samecase,samemark,samespace,word-by-word,trim-leading,trim-trailing,trim,encode,NFC,NFD,NFKC,NFKD,wordcase,trans,indent,codes,chars,uc,lc,tc,fc,tclc,flip,ord,WHY,WHICH,Bool,Str,Stringy,DUMP,ACCEPTS,chop,s…»
ZzZombo m: put ("Howdy World".^methods(:local)>>.name).join(', ')
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«BUILD, Int, Num, chomp, subst, pred, succ, ords, parse-base, samecase, samemark, samespace, word-by-word, trim-leading, trim-trailing, trim, encode, NFC, NFD, NFKC, NFKD, wordcase, trans, indent, codes, chars, uc, lc, tc, fc, tclc, flip, ord, WHY, WHICH, B…»
ZzZombo thowe ^
thowe so, ^methods doesn't return a list of names, it actually returns "methods". Method objects(?) 04:15
ZzZombo yes
thowe ah ha... I come from a Ruby world once upon a time, so I wasn't quite ready for that. That's next level. 04:16
is >>. a special operator on Method? 04:17
ZzZombo well, to be pedantic, it returns a List of methods.
it is a generic operator called hyper operator
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thowe looks like it might be iterating(?) 04:18
ZzZombo basically performs actions on all members of a list, and returns results in order
so here, I tell it to iterate over the result of ^methods() call, call .name on it and the results of all calls are then returned in another list. 04:19
s/on it/on each item/ 04:20
thowe yeah, I got that. Nifty.
Kinda like .each in Ruby I guess.
wow, there's a lot of hyper operators. 04:21
I guess I know some of these already though. I think the term "hyper operator" is just new to me. 04:22
I'm also not reading the page right, so don't mind me... 04:23
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thowe what makes something a "Hyper" operator? 04:25
is it an operator on an operator? 04:26
ZzZombo yea, it applies another operator 04:27
thowe I probably shouldn't annoy the channel with stuff I should just be reading up on. Sorry for the noise.
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BenGoldberg . o O (A hyper operator is one which has ADHD) 04:38
MasterDuke ZzZombo: are you on windows? 04:40
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MasterDuke well, assuming you are, are all the paths in the output of --ll-exception non-windows? or just some? 04:56
ZzZombo Yes 04:58
they look like "C:\rakudo/share/perl6/runtime/CORE.setting.moarvm"
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ZzZombo note the first separator is Windows-like, while the rest are not. 04:59
oh, user files properly use only '\'. 05:00
so it affects only internal files.
there is also no consistency in paths on the beginning of strings, I was talking earlier about paths in parentheses: 05:02
from src/Perl6/Compiler.nqp:27 (C:\rakudo\share\nqp\lib/Perl6/Compiler.moarvm:command_eval)
from gen\moar\stage2\NQPHLL.nqp:1508 (C:\rakudo\share\nqp\lib/NQPHLL.moarvm:command_line)
and there are instances of mixed separators as well. 05:03
MasterDuke some parts of those paths are kind of hard-coded, some are pulled from the filesystem 05:05
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MasterDuke and a bunch of the code is from NQP, which i don't believe has as much OS-awareness as Perl 6 does 05:06
ZzZombo well sure we can decorate the paths but only in the output.
MasterDuke could you rakudobug it? 05:07
ZzZombo Yes.
MasterDuke cool. i'll try and look into it, but it would be good to have in RT in case it slips my mind 05:08
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ZzZombo m: gist.github.com/ZzZombo/5caa51f9b2...556920a0d8 05:18
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«Perl6::Metamodel::ClassHOW.new␤No such method 'find_private_method' for invocant of type 'Perl6::Metamodel::PackageHOW'␤ in block at <tmp> line 48␤ in method handler at <tmp> line 44␤ in submethod tweak at <tmp> line 15␤ in block <unit> at <…»
ZzZombo why does it look into Perl6::Metamodel::PackageHOW instead of Perl6::Metamodel::ClassHOW?? 05:19
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seatek is this a bug or a feature? 05:26
i can't quite decide myself! 05:27
ugexe thats how once works 05:28
ZzZombo m: sub fragile{ once put 'You broke dis...'};fragile;fragile; 05:29
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«You broke dis...␤»
seatek ok sounds good to me :) i'll doc it in the things to watch out for with once
ugexe "A block prefix with once will be executed exactly once, even if placed inside a loop or a recursive routine."
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seatek different class isntances are supposed to have different scope though 05:30
that's what makes it unexpected 05:31
ugexe it does not say once per instance
it works just like `state`
m: class foo { method bar { state $x = rand; say $x } }; foo.new.bar; foo.new.bar
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«0.590090676209819␤0.590090676209819␤»
seatek actually, that just made me think of a good use for it 05:32
ugexe different scope doesnt matter if its only executed once 05:33
seatek clones? 05:34
ZzZombo m: sub fragile{ once put 'You broke dis...'};fragile xx 2
ugexe what about them?
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Undeclared routine:␤ xx used at line 1␤␤»
ZzZombo m: sub fragile{ once put 'You broke dis...'};fragile x 2
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Undeclared routine:␤ x used at line 1␤␤»
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ugexe m: class foo { method bar { { once say 42 } } }; foo.new.bar; foo.new.bar # you can do this if you really want to 05:38
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«42␤42␤»
ugexe but then you lose what you wanted to begin with if you use the same instance more than once 05:39
seatek no i think it works great the way it is.
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BenGoldberg m: BEGIN { my $once; sub fragile { $once //= put 'You broke dis...' } }; fragile xx 2; 05:44
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Undeclared routines:␤ fragile used at line 1␤ xx used at line 1␤␤»
BenGoldberg m: BEGIN { my $once; sub fragile { $once //= put 'You broke dis...' } }; fragile for ^2;
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Undeclared routine:␤ fragile used at line 1␤␤»
BenGoldberg m: BEGIN { my $once; sub OUTER::fragile { $once //= put 'You broke dis...' } }; fragile for ^2;
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Cannot use pseudo package OUTER in sub declaration␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3BEGIN { my $once; sub OUTER::fragile7⏏5 { $once //= put 'You broke dis...' } };␤»
BenGoldberg m: BEGIN { my $once; our sub fragile { $once //= put 'You broke dis...' } }; fragile for ^2;
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Undeclared routine:␤ fragile used at line 1␤␤»
BenGoldberg frowns 05:45
ugexe m: BEGIN { my $once; my &fragile = sub fragile { $once //= put "You broke dis..." } }; fragile for ^2 05:46
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤P6opaque: no such attribute '$!yada' in type Routine when trying to get a value␤»
BenGoldberg That's my favorite perl5 way of giving some shared state to a small handful of subs, without that state being seen outside of them.
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BenGoldberg m: my &fragile = BEGIN { my $once; sub { $once //= put "You broke dis..." } }; fragile for ^2; 05:47
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«You broke dis...␤»
BenGoldberg m: my (&foo, &bar); BEGIN { my $counter = 0; &foo = sub { --$counter }; &bar = sub { ++$counter } }; say foo() xx 3, bar(); 05:49
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«(-1 -2 -3)-2␤»
BenGoldberg m: my (&foo, &bar); say foo() xx 3, bar() xx 2; BEGIN { my $counter = 0; &foo = sub { --$counter }; &bar = sub { ++$counter } }; 05:50
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«(-1 -2 -3)(-2 -1)␤»
ZzZombo m: sub fragile{ once put 'You broke dis...'};fragile() x 2 05:52
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«WARNINGS for <tmp>:␤Useless use of "x" in expression "fragile() x 2" in sink context (line 1)␤You broke dis...␤»
ZzZombo m: sub fragile{ once put 'You broke dis...'};fragile() xx 2
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«You broke dis...␤»
ZzZombo m: sub fragile{ once put 'You broke dis...';put 'Stop you criminal scum!'};fragile() xx 2 05:53
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«You broke dis...␤Stop you criminal scum!␤Stop you criminal scum!␤»
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xtreak p6: (1..*).grep: * % 2 == 0.map: * + 2.take(10) 07:08
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«Too many positionals passed; expected 1 argument but got 2␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
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xtreak p6: (1..*).grep: * % 2 == 0.map: * + 2.take(10) 09:34
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«Too many positionals passed; expected 1 argument but got 2␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
xtreak Works on my repl but breaks here . Any clue? Also how do I convert (...) to give the actual results
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scimon Hi folks. Can anyone give me any good pointers on the state of Perl6 on the JVM? 09:39
Right now i've got it running via rakudobrew but panda won't install and this makes my plan to convince my boss it's a viable option is hitting a speed bump. 09:40
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ZzZombo try zef? 09:44
scimon That won't build either. 09:45
(Just runing them both now to give some more details) 09:46
Panda fails at the bootstrap stage with Cannot unbox a type object and a metric ton of nqp stacktrace. 09:47
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scimon (Ubuntu Linux 16.04 with the Oracle Java 8 VM) 09:48
I know Rakudo star currently says the JVM stuff has issues and I figured I'd see if I could help with them. Even if it is by tracking down bugs.
Zef fails with "Serialization Error: could not locate static code ref for closure" 09:49
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scimon (Meeting... will try zef build outside of rakudobrew on my return, any pointers people can give would be great) 09:50
ZzZombo I don't know anything about that, sorry. Wait for someone else. Just hang around, you'll get help.
CIAvash_ m: (1..*).grep(* %% 2).map(* + 2)[^10] 09:51
camelia ( no output )
scimon Cheers. :)
CIAvash_ m: say (1..*).grep(* %% 2).map(* + 2)[^10]
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«(4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20 22)␤»
CIAvash_ xtreak: ↑
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xtreak CIAvash_: Thanks. Why does using the colon notation yield a lazy list and how can I make it as a list? 09:54
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gregf_ m: ((1..*).grep: * %% 2.map: * + 2)[1..10] 09:55
camelia ( no output )
gregf_ doesnt look quite right :| 09:57
xtreak Is there a way to convert the output of take(10) itself as a list?
m: say ((1..*).grep: * %% 2.map: * + 2)[1..10]
p6: say ((1..*).grep: * %% 2.map: * + 2)[1..10] 09:58
gregf_ m: (^10).^name.say
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gregf_ m: (^10).List.^name.say 09:58
ZzZombo GJ team
that will shut those pesky bots for sure 09:59
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camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«(2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11)␤» 10:04
rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«Range␤»
rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«List␤»
arnsholt I think "say (1..*).grep(* %% 2).map(* + 2)[^10]" and "((1..*).grep: * %% 2.map: * + 2)[1..10]" are different
The latter is equivalent to "((1..*).grep(* %% 2.map(* + 2)))[1..10]
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xtreak arnsholt: Makes sense :) Sorry to repeat but how do I convert (...) that is the output of take() to a list? 10:05
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CIAvash xtreak: "take" should be used with "gather" docs.perl6.org/routine/take it doesn't do what you think it does AFAIK. 10:17
arnsholt Using take outside of a gather should raise an exception 10:18
xtreak CIAvash: Thanks. I got confused take function in other languages 10:19
arnsholt Yeah, it's not Haskell's take at all 10:20
jnthn Try head 10:21
At least, if the take semantics your thinking of are like the C# ones...
*you're # OMG o.O
jnthn drinks the coffee faster
CIAvash m: say (1..*).grep(* %% 2).map(* + 2).head: 10 # xtreak 10:23
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«(4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20 22)␤»
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zilti To whoever made the Template-Mojo module: Congrats! I get a "Useless use of constant string "blarg" in sink context (line 1)" :P 10:24
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scimon zef build outside of rakudobrew failed with the same message. Trying with --ll-exception now 11:02
So it looks like it's the load_module code which would match with the comments in the Rakudo Star about JVM not doing modules... 11:04
babydrop During last release there were JVM issues even on nqp level, so .... 11:05
Works fine on the much better supported MoarVM tho.
And as much as I want Perl 6 to succeed the JVM backend is not a "viable option" for any boss IMO. 11:07
scimon Sigh. 11:08
babydrop :)
scimon Mine are wedded to the JVM and think it's the best thing since sliced bread.
I foresee one of two annoying options.
babydrop We've a bit of a shortage of JVM volunteers. The ones we have can only do so much with their time. 11:09
scimon Well I can try and help. Might take me a while to get up to speed. 11:10
psch ++scimon 11:11
babydrop scimon: that would be awesome.
scimon Not sure how much help I'll BE. I'll start noodling around. 11:12
babydrop scimon: we also have #perl6-dev the couple of JVM folks who can give you hints are psch and bartolin
psch jnthn++ to most likely, as well as arnsholt++ 11:13
s/to /too/
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psch tbh, maybe shifting towards at-least-installing-modules might be reasonable for me instead of prodding at jvminterop almost exclusively... :) 11:13
scimon Being able to install the module installer would be nice :) 11:14
right now I should do some dayjob as the sprints started. 11:16
(Joined perl6-dev going to lurk for a while) 11:27
babydrop Would be sweet if someone took a gander at failing JVM nqp tests :) They're kind of a pain in the ass, because we don't have a fudger in nqp and Rakudo's automated release system was built on the assumption that nqp tests always pass :) 11:28
psch guesses that's new tests again and we just never noticed that the jvm fails them :/ 11:29
babydrop at least some of them definitely yeah
scimon goes off to read nqp stuff. 11:30
psch scimon: did you find the edumentab slides? those are pretty great 11:31
scimon I have now.
dalek c: ce7c9f6 | gfldex++ | doc/Language/typesystem.pod6:
tell where default types are used
synopsebot6 Link: doc.perl6.org/language/typesystem
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dalek c: c7b14ae | gfldex++ | doc/Language/containers.pod6:
doc type constraints and their introspection for containers
synopsebot6 Link: doc.perl6.org/language/containers
ZzZombo sorry for nagging, but I could use some help 11:44
m: gist.github.com/ZzZombo/5caa51f9b2...556920a0d8
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«Perl6::Metamodel::ClassHOW.new␤No such method 'find_private_method' for invocant of type 'Perl6::Metamodel::PackageHOW'␤ in block at <tmp> line 48␤ in method handler at <tmp> line 44␤ in submethod tweak at <tmp> line 15␤ in block <unit> at <…»
ZzZombo why does it look into Perl6::Metamodel::PackageHOW instead of Perl6::Metamodel::ClassHOW??
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psch m: package Attribute::Handling { sub do-stuff is export { my method foo { self!"bar"() } } }; import Attribute::Handling; do-stuff()("foo") 11:48
camelia rakudo-moar 843a6b: OUTPUT«No such method 'find_private_method' for invocant of type 'Perl6::Metamodel::PackageHOW'␤ in method foo at <tmp> line 1␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤»
dalek c: 0bf8b18 | gfldex++ | doc/Language/variables.pod6:
be precise where the default type constraint actually comes from
synopsebot6 Link: doc.perl6.org/language/variables
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psch ZzZombo: i'd try using an explicit invocant in the methods you're adding to the things you're putting your trait on 11:52
ZzZombo like method m(Class:)? 11:53
psch ZzZombo: i.e. 'method handler(Class $class:) {...}' instead of getting it via the package
ZzZombo but I do not get the type object, I get there an instance.
psch ZzZombo: i'd guess the lexical self gets bound a bit wrongly
not really sure about that though 11:54
ZzZombo Do you really mean the class here?
psch ZzZombo: you're doing ^add_method with a method that doesn't have an explicit invocant, instead you're using 'self'
ZzZombo: i suspect that might bind wrongly, which is why you get the error you do 11:55
ZzZombo: hence i suggest using an explicit invocant instead of 'self'
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psch ZzZombo: it might be that doesn't help, too, it's just the only thing that immediately comes to mind 11:56
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ZzZombo didn't help indeed. 11:57
dalek c: b9a6dc8 | gfldex++ | doc/Language/containers.pod6:
fill in links I forgot
synopsebot6 Link: doc.perl6.org/language/containers
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DrForr [Coke] Re: syntax highighting - Pretty damn close actually. I'm redoing the strings so I can properly address here-docs, there's an errant semicolon in array accesses that I need to address, and a few other minor corner cases. 12:00
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dalek c: 3ffdc37 | gfldex++ | doc/Type/Variable.pod6:
doc trait of
synopsebot6 Link: doc.perl6.org/type/Variable
dalek c: 19169cc | gfldex++ | doc/Language/ (2 files):
link to trait of
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dalek c: 78c92fc | seatek++ | doc/Language/traps.pod6:
behaviour of once in classes
synopsebot6 Link: doc.perl6.org/language/traps
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travis-ci Doc build errored. Wenzel P. P. Peppmeyer 'link to trait of' 12:14
travis-ci.org/perl6/doc/builds/180375810 github.com/perl6/doc/compare/3ffdc...169cc29699
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travis-ci Doc build errored. seatek 'behaviour of once in classes' 12:19
travis-ci.org/perl6/doc/builds/180376735 github.com/perl6/doc/compare/19169...c92fc76197
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seatek travis... he only comes by to complain 12:20
gfldex i found many complains of travis to be very helpful
not his fault that the ssl module for a heisentest
s/for/comes with/ 12:21
seatek oh it's still the ssl stuff. gotcha :)
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seatek he's still having trouble loading dependencies in another module... i have no idea what to do about it either 12:24
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seatek does travis (zef) recursively get dependencies or must you list the dependencies of your dependencies in your .json file? 12:29
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tadzik no, module installers handle them recursively 12:39
you only have to list the toplevel ones
seatek well one of my "upstreams" must be screwy then, but his tests passed... trying it again listing some of his dependencies too 12:40
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seatek yeah this time failed on HTTP::Server::Tiny 12:44
babydrop Oh... It's Dec 1st! Advent!!! weeeeeee 12:49