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AlexDaniel m: say 1.WHAT 00:04
camelia (Int)
AlexDaniel BenGoldberg: because this? ↑
BenGoldberg m: my int $x = 1; say $x.WHAT; 00:05
camelia (Int)
AlexDaniel hm
wait…
m: multi foo(Int) { ‘boxed’ }; multi foo(int) { ‘native’ }; say foo(1)
camelia boxed
AlexDaniel I'm getting “native” here… 00:06
c: all multi foo(Int) { ‘boxed’ }; multi foo(int) { ‘native’ }; say foo(1)
committable6 AlexDaniel, gist.github.com/674f621559c4475095...196ceae4dc
AlexDaniel bisect: all multi foo(Int) { ‘boxed’ }; multi foo(int) { ‘native’ }; say foo(1)
bisectable6 AlexDaniel, Bisecting by output (old=2015.12 new=86e7b2b) because on both starting points the exit code is 0
AlexDaniel blargh
bisect: multi foo(Int) { ‘boxed’ }; multi foo(int) { ‘native’ }; say foo(1)
bisectable6 AlexDaniel, bisect log: gist.github.com/3b76312cfb21e40120...a2237687c2
AlexDaniel, (2017-06-08) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/cc...15f4103752
AlexDaniel, Bisecting by output (old=2015.12 new=86e7b2b) because on both starting points the exit code is 0
AlexDaniel, bisect log: gist.github.com/c492e405d214e16f64...2e07a3e7b8
AlexDaniel, (2017-06-08) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/cc...15f4103752
AlexDaniel BenGoldberg: there's a comment under that commit that seems to be relevant 00:08
AlexDaniel so a literal is always an Int 00:09
m: multi foo(Int) { ‘boxed’ }; multi foo(int) { ‘native’ }; say foo(1)
camelia boxed
AlexDaniel m: multi foo(Int) { ‘boxed’ }; multi foo(int) { ‘native’ }; say foo(int.new(1)) 00:10
camelia boxed
AlexDaniel yeah, okay, you have to use a variable…
lookatme morning 00:24
MasterDuke BenGoldberg: i believe Zoffix had a write-up of some thoughts for native dispatching rules in a RT, but then jnthn explained something he hadn't realized and the end result is literals have to be Int 00:37
BenGoldberg Got it. 00:38
MasterDuke i think it was something like the dispatcher doesn't know the "size" of the literal, so native always wins, even when the literal would overflow and you'd expect it to go to the Int candidate 00:40
Util: can anyone show up to the Perl 6 hackathon tomorrow? i wasn't able to make it to the conference, but could probably come down for some of the afternoon/evening assuming you don't need to have paid for the conference to participate 00:45
timotimo github.com/timo/p6profiler-tools/c...7c1cf677b6 - this shall be much better than building the sqlite3 file by hand and also piping the output of the program into dot to create an svg or whatevs 00:59
and with that i disappear into bed
BenGoldberg Does anyone know if the following is possible? I've got a function foo, which takes a role Bar, and an object of class Baz (which isn't a Bar), and I want to make it so calling foo() with my Baz object will call some conversion subroutine. 01:11
BenGoldberg m: my role Foo[$z] { }; my class Bar { method Foo { say "converting"; Foo[42] } }; for Bar.new -> Foo(Bar) $x { dd $x } # coming closer... 01:21
camelia converting
Foo[Int]
BenGoldberg m: my role Foo[$z] { }; my class Bar { method Foo { say "converting"; Foo[42] } }; for Bar.new -> Foo['Abc'](Bar) $x { dd $x } # coming closer... 01:33
camelia No such method 'Foo[Str]' for invocant of type 'Bar'
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
MasterDuke .ask Util can anyone show up to the Perl 6 hackathon tomorrow? i wasn't able to make it to the conference, but could probably come down for some of the afternoon/evening assuming you don't need to have paid for the conference to participate
yoleaux MasterDuke: I'll pass your message to Util.
BenGoldberg m: my role Foo[$z] { }; my class Bar { method Foo[$perhaps] { say "$perhaps"; Foo[42] } }; for Bar.new -> Foo['Abc'](Bar) $x { dd $x } # coming closer... 01:34
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Missing block
at <tmp>:1
------> 3e Foo[$z] { }; my class Bar { method Foo7⏏5[$perhaps] { say "$perhaps"; Foo[42] } }
awwaiid Util: github.com/perl6/roast/pull/97 and github.com/perl6/roast/compare/linkable-anchors are the anchors I was talking about in roast. My plan was to have a dual branch/pull-request demo, one in roast with the anchors and one in doc with a few references and a coverage script. This branch is as far as I got, and last real commit was 2016-02-06... 01:54
Util: Here is the direct link to the colon wiki page, thelackthereof.org/Perl6_Colons (though my server is being flaky, it'll be back eventually) 01:57
BenGoldberg bisect: m: use NativeCall; sub system(Str --> int32) is native {...}; print system( $*EXECUTABLE ~ q{ -e 'my role a[$b] { }; constant c = a[:()]' 2>/dev/null } ); 02:35
bisectable6 BenGoldberg, On both starting points (old=2015.12 new=86e7b2b) the exit code is 0 and the output is identical as well
BenGoldberg, Output on both points: «256»
BenGoldberg bisect: m: use NativeCall; sub system(Str --> int32) is native {...}; print system( $*EXECUTABLE ~ q{ -e 'my role a[$b] { }; constant c = a.^paramaterize: :()' 2>/dev/null } ); 02:40
bisectable6 BenGoldberg, On both starting points (old=2015.12 new=86e7b2b) the exit code is 0 and the output is identical as well
BenGoldberg, Output on both points: «256»
BenGoldberg bisect: m: use NativeCall; sub system(Str --> int32) is native {...}; print system( $*EXECUTABLE ~ q{ -e 'my role a[$b] { }; constant c = a.^parameterize: :()' 2>/dev/null } );
bisectable6 BenGoldberg, On both starting points (old=2015.12 new=86e7b2b) the exit code is 0 and the output is identical as well
BenGoldberg, Output on both points: «0»
BenGoldberg j: my role a[$b] { }; constant c = a[:()]; dd c 02:41
camelia ===SORRY!===
setcodeobj can only be used with a CodeRef
BenGoldberg j: my role a[$b] { }; constant c = a.^parameterize: :(); dd c 02:42
camelia a[Signature]
keylet m: say 'string'[-1]; 07:27
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Unsupported use of a negative -1 subscript to index from the end; in Perl 6 please use a function such as *-1
at <tmp>:1
------> 3say 'string'[-1]7⏏5;
keylet m: say 'string'[0];
camelia string
keylet m: say 'string'[2]; 07:28
camelia Index out of range. Is: 2, should be in 0..0
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
keylet m: say 'string'.Arr; 07:28
camelia No such method 'Arr' for invocant of type 'Str'
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
keylet is there an alternative to Python's 'string'[-2] to get `n` ?
moritz m: say 'string'.substr(*-2, 1) 07:33
camelia n
keylet m: say 'string'.substr(*-1, 1) 07:39
camelia g
keylet thank you moritz
m: say ''.substr(*-1, 1) 07:43
camelia Start argument to substr out of range. Is: -1, should be in 0..0;
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
keylet m: my Str $foo = ''; say so $foo eq '' or $foo.substr(*-1, 1) ne ' ' 07:44
camelia WARNINGS for <tmp>:
Useless use of "ne" in expression ".substr(*-1, 1) ne ' '" in sink context (line 1)
True
keylet m: my Str $foo = ''; say so $foo eq '' or $foo.substr(*-1, 1) ne ' ';
camelia WARNINGS for <tmp>:
Useless use of "ne" in expression ".substr(*-1, 1) ne ' '" in sink context (line 1)
True
moritz m: say ''.substr(*-1, 1) // ''
camelia
keylet say so '' ne ' '; 07:45
evalable6 True
scimon Well good news. I'm consistently breaking travis. travis-ci.org/Scimon/perl6-build-t.../245678395 Made a fresh repo and used the 4 modules i'm using in the Statico repo. Used mi6 to build and didn't touch the travis file. Updated META6.json with the modules. 08:08
And it breaks.
I'll look into it further later. Try including less items and see what happens. Possibly update travis to not use META6 and install each module in turn. Various options. 08:09
keylet m: my Int $count = 5; say "[m{$count.Str}]"; 08:52
camelia [m5]
keylet m: my Str $foo where $_ ne 'bar' = 'test'; 09:13
camelia ( no output )
keylet m: my Str $foo where $_ ne 'bar' = 'test'; $foo = 'a';
camelia ( no output )
keylet m: my Str $foo where $_ ne 'bar' = 'test'; $foo = 'a'; $foo = 'bar';
camelia Type check failed in assignment to $foo; expected <anon> but got Str ("bar")
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
keylet m: sub test (Str $foo where not $_ ~~ /[ ' || "]/) { return $foo; }; 09:15
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Unable to parse expression in single quotes; couldn't find final "'"
at <tmp>:1
------> 3not $_ ~~ /[ ' || "]/) { return $foo; };7⏏5<EOL>
expecting any of:
single quotes
…
keylet m: sub test (Str $foo where not $_ ~~ /[ ' || "]/) { return $foo; }
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Unable to parse expression in single quotes; couldn't find final "'"
at <tmp>:1
------> 3 not $_ ~~ /[ ' || "]/) { return $foo; }7⏏5<EOL>
expecting any of:
single quotes
…
keylet glot.io/snippets/er1g8lv9rz 09:18
look, it's wonderful! :)
timotimo m: sub test (Str $foo where none(/[' || "]/)) { return $foo }; test("yo"); test("yo'yo") 09:30
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Unable to parse expression in double quotes; couldn't find final '"'
at <tmp>:1
------> 3return $foo }; test("yo"); test("yo'yo")7⏏5<EOL>
expecting any of:
argument list
…
timotimo m: sub test (Str $foo where none(/<['"]>/)) { return $foo }; test("yo"); test("yo'yo")
camelia Constraint type check failed in binding to parameter '$foo'; expected anonymous constraint to be met but got Str ("yo'yo")
in sub test at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
timotimo m: sub test (Str $foo where .contains(none("'", '"'))) { say $foo }; test("yo"); test("yo'yo") 09:31
camelia yo
Constraint type check failed in binding to parameter '$foo'; expected anonymous constraint to be met but got Str ("yo'yo")
in sub test at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
keylet it should be escaped
with \
timotimo no need if you use a character class
keylet m: sub test (Str $foo where none(/[\' || \"]/)) { return $foo }; test("yo"); test("yo'yo")
camelia Constraint type check failed in binding to parameter '$foo'; expected anonymous constraint to be met but got Str ("yo'yo")
in sub test at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
keylet timotimo: ok
timotimo and you can also use no regex at all for this
keylet ------> e.WHAT === Str ?? $title !! $title.Str, ⏏$new = True, $without-tab = True); 09:33
Variable '$new' is not declared
should I use 'my' there?
timotimo you can
or put a "my $new" in the line before it
keylet a have a method: method append (Str $innerText, Bool $new?, Bool $without-tab?) 09:34
then I try to run it: self!append($title.WHAT === Str ?? $title !! $title.Str, $new = True, $without-tab = True); 09:35
timotimo passing named arguments works differently, and those are positional arguments you're declaring and passing
lookatme no, that is python way 09:36
keylet self!append($title.WHAT === Str ?? $title !! $title.Str, True, True);
it that a Perl way? 09:37
* is
timotimo docs.perl6.org/type/Signature#Sign...e_Literals
lookatme Declare named parameter `(:$new)`, then call with `(:new)`
tadzik the trailing True-s look a bit like WinAPI way to me
timotimo that is indeed a perl way. there's also the perl way for named arguments that works a bit differently
tadzik it should also take 7 undefs 09:38
timotimo yeah, they do, tadzik
also the function needs to have its name end in Ex
nobody uses non-Ex functions todays
lookatme bye ~~ 09:42
scimon travis-ci.org/Scimon/perl6-build-test Ok so in Travis loading File::Temp, Text::Markdown, Template::Mustache and YAMLish with zef (using dep-only) from META6.json breaks. But any combination of just three builds fine.... I'm now going to try changing the travis file to load each manually rather than using deps. 10:25
I'm also going to try a docker build at some point.
scimon (doing the zef install for all 4 at once also fails) 10:56
scimon I have opened an issue withTravis about the fun I'm having. 11:16
zengargoyle scimon++ 11:21
eveo scimon: I still see you're using script and sudo sections other dists aren't using. Have you tried removing them? 11:22
zengargoyle wonder if it's running out of memory or something.
Geth ecosystem: 0a3f06fc31 | prodotiscus++ | META.list
Add Dictionary::Create to ecosystem

See github.com/prodotiscus/perl6-Dictionary-Create		 11:23
zengargoyle i've tried with no sudo (but still a script) and it still fails.
scimon eveo: I'll get rid of them. I've been using mi6 to gen my modules and that's what it adds.
zengargoyle but it fails in the zef install part before getting to the final script.
it doesn't get to the Testing or Installing phase of install --depsonly . 11:24
scimon If anyone wants to mess about in that repo it's fine by me. I made it as a test bed.
scimon going back to all in one bit. Removed script and sudo section and added 2017.06 as a perl6 version. 11:27
And now going on lunch. 11:28
zengargoyle i've run a few pared down cases from zengargoyle/p6-TestMe,
prodotiscus I'm trying to `zef install Dictionary::Create` now, but zef says `===> Searching for: Dictionary::Create` and don't find it 11:29
* doesn't
is it ok?
eveo buggable: eco dictionary
buggable eveo, Search::Dict 'a fast binary search of dictionary like files': github.com/zengargoyle/p6-Search-Dict
eveo prodotiscus: what distro is that module in? Are you sure it exists? 11:30
prodotiscus you can see, a added it to ecosystem
but it is my first module upload, so I could do somthing wrong
Ven o/ 11:31
prodotiscus [14:23] <+Geth> ¦ ecosystem: 0a3f06fc31 | prodotiscus++ | META.list [14:23] <+Geth> ¦ ecosystem: Add Dictionary::Create to ecosystem [14:23] <+Geth> ¦ ecosystem: [14:23] <+Geth> ¦ ecosystem: See github.com/prodotiscus/perl6-Dictionary-Create [14:23] <+Geth> ¦ ecosystem: review: github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/0a3f06fc31
eveo prodotiscus: try again. You can just tried to update it before the ecosystem got update 11:31
Ven`` m: for $s.comb { say $s.substr(0, ++$).parse-base(16); } 11:32
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable '$s' is not declared
at <tmp>:1
------> 3for 7⏏5$s.comb { say $s.substr(0, ++$).parse-ba
eveo tried to install it I mean
Ven`` m: $s = '0234234'; for $s.comb { say $s.substr(0, ++$).parse-base(16); }
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable '$s' is not declared
at <tmp>:1
------> 3<BOL>7⏏5$s = '0234234'; for $s.comb { say $s.sub
Ven`` *sigh*
m: my $s = '0234234'; for $s.comb { say $s.substr(0, ++$).parse-base(16); }
camelia 0
2
35
564
9026
144419
2310708
prodotiscus eveo: try zef install again?
zengargoyle prodotiscus: `zef search Dictionary::Create` finds it now. :)
prodotiscus ok, thank you :) 11:33
Ven`` I don't understand that m:
eveo prodotiscus: yes, last eco update should've run at 28m
Ven`` I don't seem to mutate the string...
fwiw, without parse-base:
m: my $s = '0234234'; for $s.comb { say $s.substr(0, ++$); }
camelia 0
02
023
0234
02342
023423
0234234
Ven`` it works without the .parse-base
prodotiscus `m:` evaluates your perl6 code 11:34
eveo It runs o. 8th, 28th and 48th minute of the hour and takes a couple of minutes to complete and it takes about 1-2 hrs for it to show up on modules.perl6.org
Ven`` prodotiscus: ??
I know what m: does – I mean I don't understand the results I get.
prodotiscus Ven``: I thought you do not understand what `m:` does, sorry :)
Ven`` I wasn't clear, my bad 11:35
eveo m: say '0234234'.parse-base: 16
camelia 2310708
eveo Ven``: looks right? What part confuses you?
parsebase treats the numeral in the string as being in base 16 above 11:36
m: say 2310708.base: 16
camelia 234234
Ven`` oh, I must be behind on my local version.
It stops after the first iteration
m: my $s = '0x098647820001114a00000000'; for $s.comb { say $s.substr(0, ++$).parse-base(16); } 11:37
camelia 0
Cannot convert string to number: malformed base-16 number in '030⏏5x' (indicated by ⏏)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Ven`` oh, maybe the exception isn't printed because of the say in the REPL
eveo It should be 11:38
zengargoyle scimon: if i do: (for f in File::Temp Text::Markdown Template::Mustache YAMLish; do zef --verbose install $f; done)
in travis, *it works* ...
eveo Ven``: You can use :16($foo) to parse all the weird stuff like 0x prefixes
Ven`` I'll update my rakudo to see if that's the issue. 11:39
zengargoyle either install --depsonly is conking out or travis is killing it for some reason.
eveo Might be...
zengargoyle travis-ci.org/zengargoyle/p6-TestM.../245741510 11:41
scimon :zengargoyle yeah when I tried all for one per line (because copy pasta) that worked in linux but not osx. Arg.
zengargoyle mine passed the osx also...
eveo Hmm... Wonder if it's the proc regression that crashes 11:42
You could try 2017.05 rakudo instead of latest
Though IIRC it crashes less on OSX than on Linux
Oh wait no, that was for another already fixed bug 11:43
buggable: eco mustach 11:44
buggable eveo, Template::Mustache 'A logic-free, cross-language templating format': github.com/softmoth/p6-Template-Mustache
eveo don't see it do any proc piping, but maybe zef does 11:46
anyway, yeah, trying 2017.05 rakudo instead of latest is worth a try. 11:47
eveo &
scimon I'll add it to the list :) 11:47
Ven`` nope, evne with the new version, the REPL doesn't show the failure 11:48
Ven`` m: say 'a'.group-by(2); 11:50
camelia No such method 'group-by' for invocant of type 'Str'
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Ven`` the REPL is acting weird...
zengargoyle .tel eveo 2017.05 passed the install --depsonly 12:05
.tell eveo 2017.05 passed the install --depsonly
yoleaux zengargoyle: I'll pass your message to eveo.
zengargoyle scimon: ^^^
eveo zengargoyle: scimon OK, then it could well be the proc issue. The ticket is this and should be fixed this or next week. rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=131592 12:06
yoleaux 12:05Z <zengargoyle> eveo: 2017.05 passed the install --depsonly
eveo Ven``: what perl6 version are you on? 12:07
Ven`` eveo: I just pull'd && made
eveo maybe I should do another toaster run for latest IO changes
Ven`` I got tons of "WARNING: unhandled Failure detected in DESTROY. If you meant to ignore it, you can mark it as handled by calling .Bool, .so, .not, or .defined methods. The Failure was:" in my for loop
every iteration of my (buggy) for loop 12:08
zengargoyle cool, this or another proc thing was the same little glitch i ran into a few days ago. :)
eveo Ven``: that indicates the REPL fails to sink that for loop and the Failure never expldoes
eveo builds latest and greatest 12:09
Ven`` well, many a failure
it doesn't sink each iteration
zengargoyle is starting to get the hang of using `hub` and `travis` CLI tools for the never ending quest of browser avoidance.
Ven`` I get it twice, even... 12:10
ohhh, I get it now.
eveo ?
Ven`` I get, all in a row, all the failures from the previous `for` loops
when I didn't get any failure.
eveo Yeah, you get that warning when an unhandled Failure gets GCed
Ven`` yes, but I'd expect `for { buggy code here }` to fail there and then 12:11
not to wait until the next GC run to DESTROY them
eveo It's not buggy. It's failury
eveo So handle your Failures then :P 12:11
Ven`` why isn't the content of my for sink'd? 12:12
eveo Because it's a bug in REPL
Ven`` fair enough then
eveo Actually, no
Works fine for me.
Ven``: what exactly are you running that you get no explosions?
eveo When I run my $s = '0x098647820001114a00000000'; for $s.comb { say $s.substr(0, ++$).parse-base(16); } it explodes 12:13
Ven`` eveo: gist.github.com/vendethiel/1fb3998...91c499feea
eveo Ah, I had `say` in mine 12:14
m: my $s = '0x098647820001114a00000000'; for $s.comb { $s.substr(0, ++$).parse-base(16); }
camelia Cannot convert string to number: malformed base-16 number in '030⏏5x' (indicated by ⏏)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
eveo m: for 1 { +'x' }; $ = $ 12:15
camelia WARNINGS for <tmp>:
Useless use of "+" in expression "+'x'" in sink context (line 1)
eveo mc: for 1 { +'x' }; $ = $
committable6 eveo, ¦2015.12: «WARNINGS for /tmp/rFF2_jEaGn:␤Useless use of "+" in expression "+'x'" in sink context (line 1)»
araraloren evening 12:16
Ven`` eveo: can you confirm the bug (failures not sunk) without the `say`?
eveo Ven``: 1 sec 12:18
m: for 1 { ^2 .map: &say }
camelia ===SORRY!===
Cannot find method 'count' on object of type NQPMu
eveo ^ other bugs are interfering with my research :) 12:19
Ven`` oh. :o 12:20
eveo Ven``: filed: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=131622 12:21
It's not just the REPL, but a general thing
m: &say.^name
camelia ( no output )
eveo m: &say.^name.say
camelia Sub
scimon eveo: Thanks. I now have to joy of a 2 hour long meeting... yay. 12:22
timotimo i wonder if we should supply things like base64 and different compression algos as Decoder/Encoder objects?
Ven`` eveo++
omg, a timotimo! hi. 12:23
timotimo yo ven 12:23
eveo And ticket for the count method thing: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=131623 12:25
Juerd timotimo: That could be a nice addition for gist.github.com/Juerd/ae574b87d40a66649692 even
eveo timotimo: sounds a fine idea for a module :)
That's the whole point of Decoder/Encoder innit? User-lang dec./enc. 12:26
timotimo i think so 12:27
jnthn I'm not sure timotimo was meaning "in core", just whether they made sense to do that way as modules :)
timotimo yup
eveo \o
jnthn And yeah, but we need to write some kind of implementation of the roles that acts as a "composite" 12:27
timotimo right, the "first decode this file as gzip, but the contents are utf8 encoded strings" 12:28
Juerd timotimo: $foo.decode("gzip").decode([ ::Inf => [ ::uint32 => "utf-8" ] ])? :) 12:30
jnthn But decode is spec'd as blob => str 12:31
Juerd jnthn: I'm ignoring that part :)
jnthn Which is why it'd more need a composition :)
Juerd personally doesn't see any conceptual difference between unpacking/packing and decoding/encoding 12:32
utf-8 is just another way to pack an integer
jnthn I'm just sayin' that it'd be more like a single call the .decode passing in a thing that is a composition of gzip and utf-8 12:33
*call to
Juerd Then you'd need to come up with a syntax for something that the language already has syntax for: a sequence of operations, each done on the output of the previous one 12:34
timotimo not quite 12:34
because when you naively just compose these you have different output to input types in between 12:35
Juerd That's another thing we already have syntax for: defining which kind of arguments and return values procedures will have :). Although it'd probably require different method names for returning something else. 12:36
user3 I have these 2 lines in a program p.6 and I want to print a usage message when the program is invoked either as "perl6 p.6 --help" or "perl6 p.6 help" 14:04
multi MAIN(:$help) { say 'Usage etc'}
multi MAIN('help') { callsame MAIN '--help'}
This works for "perl6 p.6 --help" but not for "perl6 p.6 help"
I've tried a number of variations on callsame MAIN ... but I can't get it right 14:05
raschipi user3: subcommands like that seems to be a hot topic in the last few days. I don't know the answer, but hopefully someone can help you. 14:07
[Coke] --help and help are two different things.
user3 yes, of course
geekosaur user3, when invoking MAIN within perl6, it would need to be :help not '--help' 14:08
user3 both work
oops
user3 not sure 14:09
[Coke] also, "say $?USAGE" could be the body for both.
[Coke] (hurm, maybe not) 14:10
geekosaur the translation from command line form to internal pair form is not built into MAIN, it's built into perl 6's command line handling, so when invoking MAIN from within perl 6 you need to use the pair form.
[Coke] multi MAIN('help') { MAIN :help }
user3 trying it... 14:10
[Coke] m: say $?USAGE 14:11
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable '$?USAGE' is not declared
at <tmp>:1
------> 3say 7⏏5$?USAGE
[Coke] m: multi MAIN('eek') { ... } ; say $?USAGE
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable '$?USAGE' is not declared
at <tmp>:1
------> 3multi MAIN('eek') { ... } ; say 7⏏5$?USAGE
[Coke] m: sub MAIN('eek') { ... } ; say $?USAGE
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable '$?USAGE' is not declared
at <tmp>:1
------> 3sub MAIN('eek') { ... } ; say 7⏏5$?USAGE
[Coke] wonders if the docs on $?USAGE need .. removing
user3 ok, that works to print the Usage message but I also get this error message: Too many positionals passed; expected 0 arguments but got 1 14:13
[Coke] can you nopaste your source? 14:14
(and the command line you used)
user3 well, my source is just the 2 lines above, with the modification your suggested for the 2nd line 14:15
[Coke] with that, if I run 'perl6 foo.p6 --help' and 'perl6 foo.p6 help', I get the usage each time, no warnings. 14:16
what version of perl6 are you using?
gist.github.com/coke/7bd482ccea894...a220dce5fa 14:17
Util The hackathon has started; see: github.com/dcbpw/tpc-2017-dc/wiki 14:18
yoleaux 01:33Z <MasterDuke> Util: can anyone show up to the Perl 6 hackathon tomorrow? i wasn't able to make it to the conference, but could probably come down for some of the afternoon/evening assuming you don't need to have paid for the conference to participate
user3 This is Rakudo version 2017.04.3-176-g824cfa3 built on MoarVM version 2017.04-56-g8ad18b8 implementing Perl 6.c
Util MasterDuke: Yes, anyone can come! (awwaiid says so!)
scimon Enjoy folks. 14:19
user3 This is my source: multi MAIN(:$help) { say 'Usage etc' }; multi MAIN('help') { callsame MAIN :help}
[Coke] why callsame?
user3 And I get precisely this whey I run perl6 p.6 help
Usage etc
Too many positionals passed; expected 0 arguments but got 1 in sub MAIN at p.6 line 1 in block <unit> at p.6 line 1 14:20
[Coke]: I'm learning p.6 and I try different commands
*I'm learning perl 6
[Coke] "Very often, a re-dispatch passes the same argument along that the caller received, so there is a special routine for that: callsame"
you're explicitly trying to get to another method with different args, so don't try to call it that way. 14:21
user3 ok
[Coke] so, remove 'callsame', and it works.
user3 wow 14:21
that works now
why is callsame useful for, exactly? 14:22
*what
raschipi user3: when you don't actually know the name you have been called with
[Coke] user3: perl6.party/post/Perl6-But-Heres-M...with-Maybe
zoffix did a deep dive there a few months ago. 14:23
raschipi Or when you want to mess with P6's dispatch, nice
[Coke] user3: so maybe "nextwith :help" might be appropriate. 14:27
(nope, that has no output. hurm.)
user3 it would be cleaner to avoid re-using the name "MAIN" in the second form 14:29
that is, nextwith would be cleaner (if it worked) 14:30
Util eveo, Ulti: Regarding the not-to-be-introspected Junctions from yesterday; 14:31
Brian's code that is parsing .perl instead of introspection is in 18m58s-20m12s of:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=D16wa-gnFwE
eveo Util: do you know the timecode where it's mentioned? 14:32
Util 18m58s-20m12s , as I said :^) 14:33
eveo Ah, right :D 14:34
Util The slide that show his code is up for that 74 seconds. 14:34
[Coke] did not realize there were two Brian Duggans
eveo dafuq 14:35
Util Coke: Yes, one is Brian Duggan (pronounced doo-gan), the other is Brian Duggan (pronounced dug-an).
eveo m:sub foo("foo") {}; &foo.signature.params[0].constraints[0].^name.say 14:36
evalable6 Junction
eveo mc: sub foo("foo") {}; &foo.signature.params[0].constraints[0].^name.say
committable6 eveo, ¦2015.12: «Junction»
eveo why ain't it just a Str 14:37
I bet there's some perf to gain right there and then
moritz looks like a bug to me 14:37
eveo mc: sub foo(1) {}; &foo.signature.params[0].constraints[0].^name.say
committable6 eveo, ¦2015.12: «Junction»
eveo Yeah 14:37
[Coke] wonders why rakudobrew build nom generates Creating tools/build/install-jvm-runner.pl ... 14:38
eveo Hm, I don't see any Junctions in ASTs for the sub itself. It prolly the .constraints stuff that makes it; to shove all the constraints in it
user3 [Coke]: it's samewith, not nextwith 14:39
it works now
eveo Yup: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/86e7...ter.pm#L96
Mistery solved \o/ 14:40
[Coke] eveo check the # of elems, and only all() if >1 ? 14:46
eveo mhm 14:47
Well... dunno. Is this stuff used in core somewhere?
The "always get a junction" is nice than variable return type 14:48
Not my area of expertise, so I'll leave it for someone else :)
[Coke] user3: oh, right, because callwith requires it to have been a matching candidate to start with.
(ditto nextwith)
user3++ 14:49
Util eveo, Ulti: Brian just showed me his slides; the code is on #33,#34 of bduggan.github.io/meta-perl6-cli/ 14:54
eveo Util: yeah, I found where the junction is made 14:55
github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/86e7...ter.pm#L96
zengargoyle Util++ mice talk. 14:58
eveo giggles 14:59
gah, Glot.IO is still on v2017.01 15:01
Makes my shiny use of ≥ crash :/ 15:02
I guess I'll wait for next R* before telling them to upgrade, since 2017.04 was kinda of a lemon
raschipi Is it possible to collapse a junction with just one element into it's element? Because junctions are meant to be used in boolean context, and it isn't easy to collapse them... 15:08
perlpilot raschipi: "is it possible?" questions almost always have an affirmative answer with Perl ;) 15:11
raschipi Yeah, but is it easy... 15:11
perlpilot (and I say "almost" to account for those questions where the laws of the universe are violated :)
Util zengargoyle: Thanks! But, do you really mean *my* talk (Perl 6...brain), or Brian's (CLI metaprogramming)? 15:12
perlpilot Util: I liked your talk too (just watched it last night)
eveo raschipi: you're not meant to. Whether it's easy or impossible is irrelevant.
m: say gather <a b c>.any».take 15:13
camelia (a b c)
perlpilot Util: I was anticipating some of your slides as you revealed that you do some of the exact same things that I do :) 15:13
raschipi I know you're not meant to in normal circunstances, but if I want to introspect a constrain and p6 gives me a junction, I will have to unbox it... 15:14
eveo It'll likely be -> ;; $_? is raw { #`(Block|72808472) ... } more often than not. 15:17
eveo New blog post: "Perl 6: Seqs, Drugs, And Rock'n'Roll": perl6.party/post/Perl-6-Seqs-Drugs...ock-n-Roll 15:19
Xliff Can someone tell me why I am getting "Missing block (apparently claimed by expression) 15:25
" in this block: gist.github.com/Xliff/f5a310aa0672...b8fba50c40
eveo Xliff: don't see anything wrong with that code 15:26
geekosaur er?
Xliff eveo: That's what I thought... nevertheless, there is still an error.
eveo Xliff: prove it :) 15:27
geekosaur isn't the given itself wrong?
Xliff It is surrounded by "for $*REPO.repo-chain { ... }"
AlexDaniel yea, given what?
eveo Ah yeah :)
Xliff: remove the `given` block
Xliff What is wrong with the given? I thought that form would assume $_
eveo entirely
geekosaur Xliff, given *binds* $_ 15:28
eveo Xliff: no, it aliases stuff to $_ and you didn't give it stuff to alias 15:28
geekosaur to the expression you give it
Xliff figgers
geekosaur which expression is your block, as written
eveo Xliff: and you don't need to, since you already have `for` aliasing it for you
m: for ^3 { when 2 { .say } } 15:29
camelia 2
user3 I have another question regarding multi MAIN, namely I if I put this code in a file p.6 and I invoke it without arguments, that is "perl6 p.6", it calls the second form instead of the first: 15:31
multi MAIN() { say 'this'}; multi MAIN(:$help) { say 'that' }
??? 15:32
moritz user3: named arguments are optional by default 15:33
geekosaur both of them match the usage, the later one wins. (absence of --help means $help is False)
user3 but the 1st form is more "narrow"
moritz user3: if you say multi MAIN(:$help!) { }, it'll be called
user3 ok 15:34
Xliff Thanks eveo++ and geekosaur++ 15:35
zengargoyle Util: your talk :) the number of times i did some p6 or even p6(5.22+ish) and then went back to 5.8 or 5.10 for production ... 15:39
Xliff Why "Texas" in "Texas Equivalents"? 15:42
zengargoyle everything's bigger in Texas... 15:42
moritz in texas, everything is bigger
raschipi Because they're bigger, like everything in Texas
Xliff LOL
moritz and << is bigger than «
Xliff I get it now. :P
And y'all couldn't just say "Larger Equivalents" right? 15:43
Coz it just wasn't "big" enough? :)
raschipi In Brazil, they can be called Operadores de Itu.
zengargoyle not punny enough.
Xliff zengargoyle: that too.
Util zengargoyle, perlpilot : cool! I am glad you both liked it. Thanks for saying so. 15:49
moritz Util: the slides looked pretty good. Would've loved to have been there 15:50
raschipi Util, moritz do you have a link to the slides? 15:51
zengargoyle thinks p6 is just a ploy to improve unicode awareness and input methods. sorta like sneaking in those metric units in soda bottles. :P
zengargoyle hack.p6c.org/~util/talks/ 15:53
raschipi zengargoyle: is cocaine also a ploy to get people hooked into metric units? 15:53
zengargoyle so says the first slide of the talk. www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUXclZ_d0DQ 15:54
[Coke] (I think texas is also meant to evoke the USASCII-only world at the opposite end of unicode on the spectrum) 15:57
moritz [Coke]: maybe, but that's not such a fun story to tell :-) 15:58
zengargoyle heh, i remember the 70-80's when kids tv was trying to convert the US to metric... i'm still trying to force my brain as much as possible.
rightfold zengargoyle: we could do a little quiz 16:04
For example: how many meters in a kilometer?
Or this tricky one: how many milliliters in a centiliter?
raschipi How many yards in a meter? 16:05
rightfold How many bytes in a kilobyte? :trollface:
zengargoyle double the celsius, subtract 1/10th (floor) add 32. 16:05
rightfold Convert via Kelvin
geekosaur rankine :p 16:06
rightfold :sadpepe: 16:07
zengargoyle wonders if p6 needs a number class that has an associated unit and makes sure all calculations are cromulent. :P 16:12
rightfold Meh, units 16:13
Why not go full symbolic computation, making units just normal unbound variables
zengargoyle i think somebody did a p5 moose thingy that did that. some physics type person. 16:13
perlpilot zengargoyle: if you search the logs for this channel you'll find the topic of "numbers with units" has come up before :) 16:16
zengargoyle heh 16:17
zengargoyle wonders if `units` or some other unit-y type program has a library that could be nativecallable.... 16:18
rightfold It's not had 16:21
hard*
There's a simple PureScript library that does this
zengargoyle yeay, i'm just thinking something like units already has all the data. sorta like relying on unicode tables and timezone information. let somebody else worry about the fine details. 16:23
Geth doc: a55e9dd9f0 | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Iterator.pod6
Document Iterator.count-only and .bool-only
 17:04
user3 More questions about "multi MAIN". 17:38
I put the following in a file p.6 and invoke it as "perl6 p.6 help" or "perl6 p.6 --help" (works correctly):
multi MAIN(:$help!) { say 'this' }; multi MAIN('help') { samewith :help}
However I think this can be simplified further by declaring an alternative parameter, like in sub f(:color($colour)) { say ''}. This is my best guess but doesnt work: 17:39
multi MAIN('help'(:$help!)) { say 'this' }
user3 ??? 17:39
Ulti user3 what was the command line you wanted? 17:39
user3 perl6 p6 help or perl6 p6 --help 17:40
Ulti command help thing <--- something like that?
so you want both
user3 i want both to work, yes
Ulti then yeah you just have a main target with :$help and another with 'help' 17:41
does that not work?
user3 heres the error message:
Ulti tries out locally
raschipi The alternative parameters need to have the same type but different spellings, you're looking for parameters of different types. 17:42
user3 oops I get no error message
it just prints the default Usage message
Ulti user3: gist.github.com/MattOates/eaa7d6bd...76c9c9cd71 17:44
that works for me locally ^
user3 is it the one you tried: multi MAIN('help'(:$help!)) { say 'this' } 17:46
I'm uncertain about the syntax to use, I'm new to perl 6 17:47
travis-ci Doc build errored. Zoffix Znet 'Document Iterator.count-only and .bool-only' 17:55
travis-ci.org/perl6/doc/builds/245874829 github.com/perl6/doc/compare/c128b...5e9dd9f00e
Util m: my $fh = open "/expected/to/fail", :w; $fh.print("hi"); $fh.close; 19:23
camelia open is disallowed in restricted setting
in sub restricted at src/RESTRICTED.setting line 1
in sub open at src/RESTRICTED.setting line 9
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Util OK, obviously I cannot have Camelia show it to you, but we (at the hackathon) get this error from .print:
Too many positionals passed; expected 1 argument but got 2
Is the Failure working-as-designed and just giving a LTA message, or is there a more substantial problem here?
moritz m: say Mu.^can('print') 19:24
camelia (print)
moritz Mu has an argumentless print method
which you can use like this:
m: 42.print
camelia 42
moritz that's inherited to Failure too 19:24
Util moritz: *should* it be inherited intact to Failure, or should we overide .print in Failure to avoid this LTA message? 19:25
moritz Util: I don't know what's best 19:27
m: sub f() { fail 42 }; f().print
camelia 42
in sub f at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
moritz it seems to blow up on .print() anway
then I guess we could override it
Util m: sub f() { fail 42 }; f().print('foo'); 19:29
camelia Too many positionals passed; expected 1 argument but got 2
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Util ^^ That is what is so confusing; we found it when trying to run `p6doc-index build` on a secured dir without `sudo`. 19:29
moritz should be easy to fix with a print method with a catch-all signature 19:38
Util moritz: I see. We will play with this . Thanks! 19:42
keylet m: my %hash = foo => "bar"; say %hash.elems; 19:53
camelia 1
keylet m: my %hash; say %hash.elems;
camelia 0
keylet m: my %hash = foo => "bar"; say so %hash.elems > 1; 19:54
camelia False
masak m: say (%).elems
camelia 0
keylet m: my %hash = foo => "bar", lorem => "ipsum"; say so %hash.elems > 1;
camelia True
masak that `so` (in both cases) is not needed
because `>` already gives you a Bool 19:55
keylet masak: ok
masak .oO( reduce your keypresses! save the environment! )
keylet m: my %hash = foo => "bar"; say "lorem ipsum %hash dolor sit"; 19:56
camelia lorem ipsum %hash dolor sit
keylet m: my %hash = foo => "bar"; say "lorem ipsum {%hash} dolor sit";
camelia lorem ipsum foo bar dolor sit
keylet m: my %hash = foo => "bar"; say "lorem ipsum {%hash} sit amet";
camelia lorem ipsum foo bar sit amet
masak m: my %hash = foo => "bar"; say %hash.Str.perl 19:57
camelia "foo\tbar"
masak yup; that's a tab character between the "foo" and the "bar"
moritz m: my %hash = foo => "bar"; say "lorem ipsum %hash{} dolor sit";
camelia lorem ipsum foo bar dolor sit
masak prefers the {%hash} form these days 19:57
keylet m: my %hash; say %hash.elems == 0; 19:59
camelia True
keylet m: my %hash; say %hash.elems === 0;
camelia True
keylet m: my %hash; say %hash.elems eq 0; 19:59
camelia True
keylet it's funny
masak m: my %hash; say %hash.elems eqv 0; 20:00
camelia True
masak m: my %hash; say %hash.elems ~~ 0;
camelia True
keylet is `==` only correct there?
masak keylet: to a first approximation, "yes" :) 20:00
m: my %hash; say %hash.elems 20:01
camelia 0
masak m: my %hash; say !%hash.elems
camelia True
masak m: my %hash; say !%hash
camelia True
masak that last one is the shortest way to express "is it empty?"
moritz it's kinda hard to go shorter than a single character :-) 20:02
masak that's why I could say it with such confidence
masak though... empty string tends to be the shortest quine in many languages :P 20:02
masak m: 20:05
samcv m: use experimental :collation; say ('ae', 'ar', 'æ').collate
camelia (ae ar æ)
moritz ... and they are banned from all golf contents :-)
*contests 20:06
masak what's .collate?
samcv uses unicode collation algorithm
moritz sorting with the Unicode collation algorithm
masak ooh
moritz masak: you should, like, totally read my book :-)
samcv docs.perl6.org/language/experimental#Collation
masak I most definitely should
samcv need to update the page. since you can now reverse the sorting of case, but not touch how diacritics/letters themselves are compared as well 20:07
but basically that there
masak moritz++ # wrote a book
moritz++ # no, wait, two!?
samcv m: use experimental :collation; say ('ae', 'ar', 'æ', 'AE').collate 20:08
camelia (ae ar AE æ)
keylet m: my %hash = foo => "bar"; say "[tag {%hash.fmt('%s="%s"')}][/tag]";
camelia [tag foo="bar"][/tag]
keylet m: my %hash = foo => 100500; say "[tag {%hash.fmt('%s="%s"')}][/tag]";
camelia [tag foo="100500"][/tag]
samcv m: use experimental :collation; say ('ae', 'ar', 'æ', 'AE','bc','rf', '12').collate
camelia (12 ae ar AE bc rf æ)
samcv working on getting æ sorting in the right place atm. which is complex. which is why i'm testing it here 20:09
so far multiple collation keys for a single codepoint are NYI but the rest is
though the next step is much more complex :X
samcv :O \o/ making progress 20:14
got (12 ae ar æ AE bc rf) as the collation result for sorting ('ae', 'ar', 'æ', 'AE','bc','rf', '12') finally
which i *think* is correct :)
i mean it looks rigth visually. heh 20:15
samcv right now it uses kind of simplistic things not using actual 'arrays' and only single primary,secondary, tetriary values for each cp, but the code i'm working on now actually uses arrays which will enable fancy stuff like having æ sort with ae as i luckily finally got :) 20:16
raschipi samcv: (12 ae ar æ AE bc rf) --> But æ isn't sorting with ae, it's sorting with ar... 20:34
samcv yeah it is. but ignore that 20:44
haha
samcv that's caused by a different issue, but the fact that it's sorting with the a's means it's working 20:45
raschipi noice 20:46
you're looking into localized collation rules too? Or just doing the general case?
samcv general case is first, but i will be looking into localizied as well 20:47
raschipi Localized collation rules have to follow localized casefolding rules. In Turquish, 'i' and 'I' don't collate togheter. 20:48
samcv the reason æ is sorting after ar is because the first collation key æ has. its tertiary (the case-like one) is different than for a 20:49
slightly
raschipi It's titlecase?
samcv no. it's just 3 for a and 5 for æ 20:50
i think it's 8 for A or something
raschipi samcv++. G'night 20:58
samcv night :)
masak I still want to write a presentation (kind of a whitepaper) about 007 21:14
perlpilot masak: does that move us closer to having macros in Perl 6? ;-) 21:16
rouking_ What do you guys recommend for web backends with P6? 21:19
Guessing no webservers have support for it yet
lichtkind cheers 21:20
moritz ping
lizmat rouking_: github.com/Bailador/Bailador ?
lichtkind hugs Liz
lizmat lichtkind o/ long time no see! 21:21
perlpilot rouking_: what lizmat said. Maybe github.com/tokuhirom/p6-Crust if you don't want the webapp frameworky bits
lichtkind indee lizmat 21:22
lizmat, come to HH?
lizmat most likely not
lichtkind so i have to come to the amsterdam 21:23
lizmat lichtkind: I'm afraid so :-) 21:24
lichtkind lizmat life is so hard
are you involved in perl6doc too? 21:25
lizmat lichtkind: I've done some documentation patches, but that's about it :-)
masak perlpilot: yes 21:27
masak perlpilot: 007 is primarily a testing-ground for macros for Perl 6 21:28
perlpilot: onlly secondarily is it a language in its own regard, and an opportunity for its language designer to grind his own axe ;) 21:30
only* ax*; lag 21:32
masak .oO( language designer rule MCCXXVI: they tell you that not grinding your ax is a good thing, but it turns out you can't not grind your ax ) 21:33
lichtkind lizmat, i discovered then im still owner of Perl6::Doc and its so outdated so i ponder what to do with it, any clues what to put in as perl 6 doc first? 21:39
lizmat mark it as "historical" ? 21:40
lichtkind but we can fill in some actual content
lizmat I think all of the documentation effort is now done for docs.perl6.org 21:41
and it's hard enough already to get people to document already :-(
lichtkind i didnt spoke of the tablets 21:43
i mean ther perl 5 module
which still list apocaplypses and stuff
i want to fill ther eoyur stuff
fresh stuff
question is how about it and what are the important bits to start migrate first 21:44
lizmat are we talking about metacpan.org/pod/Perl6::Doc ?
lichtkind yes
lizmat "As of version 0.40, this distribution has been overhauled and is no longer maintained by Herbert Breunung, who originally took it over from ingy and audreyt." ?? 21:45
lichtkind im still owner since audrey gave me this
yes but hinrik didnt do much either
i already contacted him to get decision
lichtkind i wna tin it what title say some content of doc.perl6.org 21:46
lizmat fwiw, it feels to me you're going to put in a lot of work that will not be appreciated 21:47
fwiw, I would suggest removing it from PAUSE
lichtkind i kdont know what fwiw means but yes that would be my feel to but i rather have some tuits to do another docs module and this could reuse some of the inner workings, just replace some content, which at least was the thought i had 21:51
lizmat for what it's worth
lichtkind thanks
lichtkind but yes i should remove it as soon hinrik answers 21:52
lizmat lichtkind: if you would like to work on documentation, there's still quite some open tickets on doc :-)
afaik
prodotiscus I see my module Dictionary::Create on modules.perl6.org, but travis status is "unknown" 21:53
El_Che stmuk: I got a mac at work (in addition to a Linux and a Windows laptop :) ). I noticed that when installing Rakudo Star you have to drag a Folder to application instead of an icon. Also in Application there is a folder Rakudo instead of a Perl6 app. This is by design? Maybe, as a cli app, Rakudo should be in Application? This is how git behaves.
lichtkind my focus is rather on making infos better searchable and better conectable, if im fixing stuff in the process its coleteral
prodotiscus it seems to be wrong, because you can see `build|passed` on github.com/prodotiscus/perl6-Dictionary-Create
what is this?
lizmat lichtkind: I'd like to see the default WHY method in the setting produce some sort of short text for all of the builtins 21:54
prodotiscus * build|passing
lichtkind lizmat, sounds desirable plus wasnt it the original plan of $larry? 21:55
lizmat that seems likely :-) 21:55
m: say Int.WHY
camelia No documentation available for type 'Int'.
Perhaps it can be found at docs.perl6.org/type/Int
»
lizmat that's the current state
masak lichtkind: maybe instead of removing it, might replace it with something that clearly links to docs.perl6.org ? 22:01
lichtkind masak sounds more helpful 22:06
masak gues who i thought of when we discussed gotos in compiler building and dijsktras algorithm 22:07
Geth doc: 7d9e87c61a | (Steve Mynott)++ | Build.pm
Fix RT#131025 which is due to Build.pm failing to install docs under

  'share' type path but .perl6 instead due to assumption about order of
repo-chain. We now search for 'site' explicitly.		 22:09
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display...?id=131025
stmuk El_Che: originally I had the folder as an icon but people complained "it's actually a folder not an icon" so I changed it 22:11
masak lichtkind: ...Dijkstra? :P 22:13
lichtkind of nanodijkstra of cours 22:14
our dr didnt knew the joke 22:15
stmuk el_che: github.com/rakudo/star/commit/00fd...72385b419b 22:17
I don't particularly care either way so if you want to revert its fine
The reason rakudo is used rather than perl6 is to support alternative implementations 22:19
lichtkind masak, hope i see you bookingland 22:20
El_Che stmuk: thx. I'll have a look. Not a lot of experience with what's expected on osx, so maybe those users are right. It just struck me weird 22:34
stmuk I think it's wierd either way 22:36
it's basically a command line app anyway .. not very useful from clicking on icons 22:38
travis-ci Doc build errored. Steve Mynott 'Fix RT#131025 which is due to Build.pm failing to install docs under 22:59
travis-ci.org/perl6/doc/builds/245983699 github.com/perl6/doc/compare/a55e9...9e87c61a5f
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display...?id=131025 22:59
El_Che stmuk: if I am not mistaken, git just added an uninstall script in /usr/local and chose not to add the icon/map in Applications in Finder 23:02
stmuk There was feedback (which I didn't find very useful) at groups.perlists.pm/sympa/arc/londo...00030.html 23:11

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