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Set by moritz on 22 December 2015.
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Herby_ o/ 02:42
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Herby_ I'm trying a Python OO exercise, using Perl 6. I'm stuck. 03:03
gist.github.com/anonymous/2f2221c3...73dd552aaa 03:04
How do I create the "last_id" attribute in p6? For each note created, it should get the next id available
ugexe ++$ 03:09
Herby_ ?
ugexe or `state $last_id += 1`
Herby_ do I declare $last_id outside of the class too? 03:10
ugexe not with `state`
oh i see 03:11
m: class Foo { my $last_id = 0; method add { $last_id++ }; method last_id { $last_id } }; Foo.new.add; Foo.new.last_id 03:12
camelia ( no output )
ugexe m: class Foo { my $last_id = 0; method add { $last_id++ }; method last_id { $last_id } }; Foo.new.add; Foo.new.last_id.say
camelia 1
ugexe m: class Foo { my $last_id = 0; method new { $last_id++; self.bless() }; method last_id { $last_id } }; Foo.new; Foo.new.last_id.say 03:13
camelia 2
Herby_ awesome 03:14
thanks
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wander C<\n> matches a single, logical newline character. C<\n> is supposed to also 03:19
match a Windows CR LF codepoint pair; though it's unclear whether the magic
happens at the time that external data is read, or at regex match time.
unclear?
is it?
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dominix hi guys 03:27
ugexe i dont think its unclear, i think its just not what you might expect coming from other languages
dominix do someone knows about the project V5 ? that is perl5 implemented in rakudo. Is it dead ? stalled ? of no interest ? 03:28
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geekosaur wander, I think which happens is not part of the spec, but part of the implementation? 03:39
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wander agree, spec says "\n matches logical newline" 03:44
I think the implementation is, that it happens when external data is read 03:45
ugexe depends, what if you read it in binary and decode it using a decoder that does not do newline translation? 03:46
geekosaur yes, current rakudo-moar at least rewrites text mode newlines to a general newline grapheme
on read 03:47
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piojo Zoffix: Thank you. moritz already corrected me once about the %hash<$val> incorrect syntax. I really need to break that habit! 04:17
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samcv is there a way for modules to know what version they are? 04:53
like some dynamic variable that stores the version number of that installed module? 04:54
K_ Whatsnext?
samcv ugexe, do you know?
K_ 32
?: 04:55
samcv K_, do you have a question?
K_ How do i win? And get to walk away without spreading this diseez? 04:56
ugexe samcv: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/1132 needs this to do it in a reasonable way, after which point we can possibly add it to .^ver
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samcv ugexe, can we add a --version option to zef now? i always want to know what version i'm running but there's no way 04:57
and i'm guessing a lot of people may expect that to work
ugexe no, that example is shown in the PR
samcv oh you mean it adds it as an option by itself 04:58
ok thanks for link to PR 04:59
ugexe it makes it possible for zef to do it
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sacomo hi all 05:35
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finanalyst can anyone tell me whether the specification for the META.json file in S22 has been updated? 06:01
mostly I am interested in the depends: field
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sacomo finanalyst, now sure if the ver, author adverbs work in depends. I haven't seen any modules using them. 06:14
finanalyst sacomo: so far I have seen some ver/author in modules, eg. Bailador. However, I remove these adverbs. My question is about the structure of depends 06:16
According to S22, there are two / three structures: a) array of string, b) array of string | hash (which contains hints), c) hash of hash of array of string 06:17
Recently, App::Cpan6 started using the hash structure, which broke my analysis program. 06:18
Since I originally only took into account array of string, I now want to make more generic. Just checking to see if S22 has full spec 06:19
sacomo yeah, I have only seen the array of strings, App::Cpan6 is the first I have seen use that structure. I think now that the cpan6 effort is underway that will become more common. 06:23
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wander m: uniname("一").parse-names() 07:02
camelia Unrecognized character name [<CJK Ideograph-4E00>]
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
wander m: say uniname("一")
camelia <CJK Ideograph-4E00>
wander why does `uniname("一").parse-names()` not work? 07:03
I have seen rakudo #1031 but still don't know how parse-names work. especially where the dict is 07:05
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Update regexes.pod6
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synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/regexes
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wander m: say 'abcdefg' ~~ /\w ** {-Inf}/; # OUTPUT: «｢｣␤»
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Bogus statement
at <tmp>:2
------> 3<BOL>7⏏5»
expecting any of:
prefix
term
wander m: say 'abcdefg' ~~ /\w ** {-42}/; # OUTPUT: «｢｣␤» 07:36
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Bogus statement
at <tmp>:2
------> 3<BOL>7⏏5»
expecting any of:
prefix
term
wander m: say 'abcdefg' ~~ /\w ** {-10..-42}/;
camelia ｢｣
wander m: say 'abcdefg' ~~ /\w ** {-10..-42}/; # OUTPUT: «｢｣␤»
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Bogus statement
at <tmp>:2
------> 3<BOL>7⏏5»
expecting any of:
prefix
term
wander m: say 'abcdefg' ~~ /\w ** {-Inf}/;
camelia ｢｣
wander it complain "This type (Failure) does not support positional operations in block <unit> at <unknown file> line 1" on my REPL 07:37
This is Rakudo version 2017.07 built on MoarVM version 2017.07 implementing Perl 6.c.
and 07:38
m: say 'abcdefg' ~~ /\w ** {-10..-42}/;
camelia ｢｣
wander output ｢abcdefg｣
m: say 'abcdefg' ~~ /\w ** 1..*/;
camelia ｢abcdefg｣
geekosaur yes, that was a change within the past few months 07:39
(bug fix) 07:40
wander ok, i'm going to get a recent release 07:41
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wander m: (try say 'abcdefg' ~~ /\w ** {42..10}/ ) orelse say ($!.^name, $!.empty-range); 08:06
camelia (X::Syntax::Regex::QuantifierValue True)
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wander m: (try say 'abcdefg' ~~ /\w ** {42..10}/ ); say ($!.^name, $!.empty-range); 08:07
camelia (X::Syntax::Regex::QuantifierValue True)
wander m: (try say 'abcdefg' ~~ /\w ** {42..10}/ ) // ($!.^name, $!.empty-range);
camelia ( no output )
wander m: (try say 'abcdefg' ~~ /\w ** {42..10}/ ) // say ($!.^name, $!.empty-range);
camelia (X::Syntax::Regex::QuantifierValue True)
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wander m: (try say 'abcdefg' ~~ /\w ** {NaN..42}/ ) // say $!; 08:08
camelia Cannot use Range with non-Numeric or NaN end points as quantifier
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
wander m: (try say 'abcdefg' ~~ /\w ** {NaN..42}/ ) // say $!.resume; 08:11
camelia This exception is not resumable
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
wander m: (try say 'abcdefg' ~~ /\w ** {NaN..42}/ ) // say $!.Str 08:12
camelia Cannot use Range with non-Numeric or NaN end points as quantifier
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wander Note that you cannot easily obtain the same behavior(regex conjunction) with a look-ahead, because a look-ahead doesn't stop looking when the quoted string stops matching. 08:43
^^ what is a look-ahead? 08:44
moritz it's a regex doens't consume characters 08:45
for example / \w+ <?before '='> / matches a word only if it is followed by a '='
but the regex matches only the word, not the '=' 08:46
explained in more detail in www.amazon.com/Parsing-Perl-Regexe...1484232275 </ad type="blatant">
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wander m: say "42=" ~~/ \w+ [<?before '='> && <.ws>]/ 08:50
camelia ｢42｣
wander emmmm...what is the note means? && works well on look-ahead it seems 08:51
btw, indeed looking forward to your new book 08:52
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moritz yes, but only because <.ws> is also a zero-width match 09:05
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moritz m: say so 'abc' ~~ / <?before a> && . / 09:09
camelia False
moritz m: say so 'abc' ~~ / <?before a> . /
camelia True
moritz m: say 'abc' ~~ / <?before a> .. /
camelia ｢ab｣
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wander .tell moritz thanks for your patient explanation, and sorry for I'm leaving for a while 10:23
yoleaux wander: I'll pass your message to moritz.
moritz you're welcome, and no problem 10:25
yoleaux 10:23Z <wander> moritz: thanks for your patient explanation, and sorry for I'm leaving for a while
El_Che morning 10:26
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squashable6 AlexDaniel, ⚠🍕 Next SQUASHathon in 3 days and ≈23 hours (2017-11-04 UTC-12⌁UTC+14). See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day
jnthn m: use nqp; say nqp::eqaddr(Int.new(5), Int.new(5)) # :) 10:37
camelia 0
jnthn oops 10:38
geekosaur reallyUnsafePtrEq# :p
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Add and modify examples

on zero or one quantifiers `?` and conjunction `&&` And rewrite example on greedy versus frugal quantifiers		 10:58
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/regexes
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take a shot
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knight__ Hello, I am creating a module, but what is the real purpose of 'use lib 'lib''? Load all modules symbols from path lib ? 11:34
timotimo not all, but it'll put the lib folder first in the list of locations to look in 11:36
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knight__ timotimo: Is there any option like python globals()/locals() it returns symbols which have been defined in scope? 11:50
timotimo m: say ::.keys
camelia ($=pod $_ $/ !UNIT_MARKER $=finish EXPORT $! ::?PACKAGE GLOBALish $¢ $?PACKAGE)
timotimo that's how you get at the lexical scope's contents
m: say OUR::.keys
camelia ()
timotimo those are the package-scoped variables, i.e. everything declared "our" instead of "my" 11:51
lizmat m: my $foo; dd ::.keys<$foo>
camelia Failure.new(exception => X::AdHoc.new(payload => "Type Seq does not support associative indexing."), backtrace => Backtrace.new)
lizmat hmmm
m: my $foo; dd ::<$foo>
camelia Any $foo = Any
lizmat m: my $foo = 42; dd ::<$foo>
camelia Int $foo = 42
timotimo imma be AFK for a bit 11:52
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knight__ timotimo: Also, is there any doc about environment bindings? I mean how interpreter makes some "execution" plan? 11:53
timotimo i don't know what that means?
knight__ I will show, wait 11:54
timotimo someone else will surely be able to answer while i'm gone
seeya
knight__ ok
:-)
bye, thank you
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araraloren Is there any convenient way update value of Hash, just like `%h<x> = %h<x> // 'foo';` 12:21
lizmat %h<x> = "foo" ? 12:22
araraloren: not sure what you mean
araraloren sorry
If there key exists, I want update it 12:23
this
oh I'm a foolish.. :P 12:24
moritz %h<x> = 'foo' if %h<x>:exists; 12:28
lizmat araraloren: if they are always defined values in there, you can use 'with' 12:29
m: my %h = a => 42; $_ = 666 with %h<a>; dd %h
camelia Hash %h = {:a(666)}
araraloren oh, nice 12:30
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araraloren thanks 12:30
My friend not describe the question correctly. sorry
[Coke] .
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knight__ apropo my previous questions about execution plan. I am interested in some execution plan how interpreter interpretes data. For example when I have multiple inheritance, I would like to know how interpreter works, which method it will choose, which table of symbols will use. etc :-) I do not know how to say it english. 12:36
Some rules, how it works. 12:37
moritz knight__: classes have "Method Resolution Order", short MRO
knight__: it tells which order the classes are searched for when looking for methods
m: say Int.^mro 12:38
camelia ((Int) (Cool) (Any) (Mu))
moritz m: say IntStr.^mro
camelia ((IntStr) (Int) (Str) (Cool) (Any) (Mu))
moritz Perl 6 uses C3: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C3_linearization
knight__ Thank you! 12:39
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wander m: say "11" ~~ /(\d) {} :my $c = $0; ($c)/; 13:46
camelia ｢11｣
0 => ｢1｣
1 => ｢1｣
COMBORICO Question: What does the perl method do: "say '2'.perl;". I know it returns "2", but I don't understand what is going on.
wander where can I see how code like `{} :my $c = $0;` works? 13:47
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wander COMBORICO, docs.perl6.org/routine/perl 13:48
COMBORICO Ty
geekosaur COMBORICO, it produces the perl source code needed to reproduce the expression. for a number or a string, it's just the number
or string
wander briefly, returns a Perlish representation of the object
COMBORICO Ty
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geekosaur mhhh. think embedded code is only documented in the speculations :/ 13:51
the real docs are steering people to action objects 13:52
COMBORICO geekosaur, i read the link, but your explanation is clearer. Thank you.
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cognominal Mon histoire d´A avec les Rita Mitsouko finit mal. RIP Fred. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPSyz7xweVc 13:54
oops
wrong channel
lizmat ah, l'erreur :-) 13:55
geekosaur wander, so closures in regexes are apparently only documented at design.perl6.org/S05.html#Bracket_r...nalization 13:58
and ':my' is documented in the middle of design.perl6.org/S05.html#Variable_...erpolation 14:00
I am wondering if those are going to be deprecated, since the docs point you to action objects instead 14:01
moritz no 14:03
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wander geekosaur, thank you 14:09
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wander so, for `"11" ~~ /(\d) {} :my $c = $0; ($c)/`, first I match "1", then run a block, which updates $/ 14:11
following `:my $c = 0;` which is how we declare inside a regex/token/rule
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wander interesting, for we never(?) declare a variable in this form anywhere else 14:13
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geekosaur er? it's a normal declaration preceded by a colon 14:14
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wander aha :P 14:15
m: :my $x = 42;
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Two terms in a row
at <tmp>:1
------> 3:my7⏏5 $x = 42;
expecting any of:
infix
infix stopper
statement end
statement modifier
statement …
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geekosaur it may help to note that, in a regex, : normally stops backtracking (and both closures and :my also have that effect) 14:17
(closures, because it's kinda hard to run arbitrary code "in reverse" if you backtrack through it) 14:18
wander so such form is only used inside regex, is it? 14:19
geekosaur yes 14:20
rgeex is a separate language from perl 6 proper, although it allows limited embedding of perl 6 via closures
likewise strings are a separate language
perl 6 cleverly uses its own grammar facilities to allow switching languages on the fly 14:21
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.oO( "my god, it's full of languages" )
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geekosaur hypothetically, someone could implement python as a perl 6 grammar and you could then put a block of python code in the middle of your program
(I think there was actually an effort to run perl 5 that way, but it stalled out back when rakudo was still using parrot?)
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wander moritz, do we have other method to do the same thing like `/(\d) {} :my $c = $0; ($c)/`? ( We should have :-) ) 14:24
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moritz wander: you mean /\d $0 / ? 14:29
m: say '1223' ~~ /(\d) $0 / 14:30
camelia ｢22｣
0 => ｢2｣
moritz m: say '1223' ~~ /$<alias>=(\d) ($<alias>) /
camelia Nil
moritz :(
wander yes 14:31
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wander m: say '1223' ~~ /$<alias>=(\d) $<alias> /; say $0; 14:32
camelia ｢22｣
alias => ｢2｣
Nil
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moritz how often do you actually need to capture the second bit, when you already know that it matches the same text as the first? 14:33
wander you're right. what i care about is the match, not the capture XD 14:35
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jdv79 can a Pair's value be Nil? 14:35
moritz m: say (a => Nil).perl 14:36
camelia :a(Nil)
moritz jdv79: ^^ that was easy to answer :-)
jdv79 i asked the wrong question. why can't a hash's value be Nil? 14:37
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Add some decent open fonts to repo

To save time setting up when designing on new boxes...
lizmat m: my %h is default(Nil) = a => Nil; dd %h 14:38
camelia Hash %h = {:a(Nil)}
lizmat jdv79: ^^^
jdv79 oh, that makes sense
thanks
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geekosaur the core issue is that, in an assignment, Nil usually means use the default value for the type. so you need the default to also be Nil 14:40
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jdv79 i thought of that just before lizmat showed it 14:45
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Add example on Capture markers
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synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/regexes
jdv79 for an args hash being slipped into a constructor a default of Nil is useful
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wander maybe test defined? 14:48
m: say defined Nil; say defined Any;
camelia False
False
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jdv79 i'm talking about - "{..., k => $v ?? $v...whatever !! Nil,... } 14:51
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ugexe m: sub foo(*%_) { %_ }; my %hash = %( :a([1,2,3]), :b(1) ); say foo(%hash).perl # wonder if this error message can be improved 15:16
camelia Too many positionals passed; expected 0 arguments but got 1
in sub foo at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
ugexe ah n/m, too early 15:17
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callyalater m: say ""; sub postfix:<!>(Int $n) { [*] 2..$n }; say "{6!}"; 15:23
yoleaux 28 Oct 2017 04:35Z <Zoffix> callyalater: the quote braid bug is now fixed: c: HEAD $ = ""; sub postfix:<!> { [*] ^$^f+1}; say "{ 5! }"; Sorry it took longer to fix than original promised :)
camelia
720
callyalater Zoffix: Thank you! 15:24
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squashable6 AlexDaniel`, ⚠🍕 Next SQUASHathon in 3 days and ≈17 hours (2017-11-04 UTC-12⌁UTC+14). See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day
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lizmat nice objective for this Saturday's Squashathon: stackoverflow.com/questions/470171...umentation 16:58
timotimo hm, do we have a Pod::To::Markdown? :) 17:00
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Coleoid Hi, #perl6! I'm wrestling with NativeCalling a funky library. 17:03
The NativeCall docs specify that lib functions which return structs, must return them by reference, and I'm faced with a lib which does not. Do I have options beyond "rewrite those functions"?
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timotimo if i remember correctly, returning structs is not properly standardised between ABIs or compilers or something? 17:04
hm, though of course we should support anything libffi and dyncall can. let's see if they support that 17:05
geekosaur Coleoid, or write a wrapper function 17:07
Coleoid That may be. The C folks on StackOverflow seem to believe it's defined, safe, and proper to return structs by value, and then they start listing caveats...
geekosaur passing structs and returning structs both have weirdness; C knows how to do it, but making an FFI do it is hard enough that many don't bother
timotimo looks like dyncall doesn't support it
hm, does libffi support it? 17:09
1.03 Oct-10-96
Passing struct args, and returning struct values works for
all architectures/calling conventions.
now how do we handle this ... a run time exception when trying to use a function with struct return type if moarvm is compiled with dyncall? 17:10
(that would probably also immediately trigger when precompiling a module with that in it 17:11
Coleoid geekosaur, I was thinking wrapper functions, too, if I can't avoid writing C with this project. 17:12
timotimo, I run up to the native call, and exit immediately without any message thereafter. So it gave me much better visibility than a precompile exception. 17:14
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timotimo well, a precompile exception would not half-run the program if it's doomed 17:15
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Coleoid ...or, now I think you meant NativeCall doing its first-time precompile, and it's given helpful messages when I haven't built the signature. 17:16
timotimo m: use NativeCall; class Foo is repr<CStruct> { has int32 $.foo }; sub foo() returns Foo is native(Str) {*} 17:17
camelia ( no output )
timotimo m: use NativeCall; class Foo is repr<CStruct> { has int32 $.foo }; sub foo() returns Foo is native(Str) {*}; foo()
camelia Cannot locate symbol 'foo' in native library ''
in method setup at /home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-1/share/perl6/sources/24DD121B5B4774C04A7084827BFAD92199756E03 (NativeCall) line 289
in method CALL-ME at /home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-1/share/perl6/…
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timotimo huh, it allows a CStruct for "returns"? 17:17
m: use NativeCall; class Foo is repr<CStruct> { has int32 $.foo }; sub foo(--> Foo) is native(Str) {*}; foo()
camelia Cannot locate symbol 'foo' in native library ''
in method setup at /home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-1/share/perl6/sources/24DD121B5B4774C04A7084827BFAD92199756E03 (NativeCall) line 289
in method CALL-ME at /home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-1/share/perl6/…
Coleoid Yes, they just must be returned by reference. 17:18
timotimo ah crap, of course 17:19
Coleoid Another sad thing is this struct is three uint8s, so it would even fit into an int32 return value. Redefining the nativecall binding to do that didn't fool the runtime, though. :D
timotimo in that case i also don't know how to signal that ... "is structure-return" or similar
yeah, depending on your architecture returning an integer or a struct with a sufficiently small size can still be vastly different 17:20
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geekosaur has vs. HAS? 17:23
timotimo you can't put has or HAS in a sub signature
Coleoid Sounds right. Well, foo. Looks like wrapper functions, then.
geekosaur I meant in the CStruct
timotimo it'd also be possible to signal it like returns FlatStruct[Foo] (name up for debate)
that won't help 17:24
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COMBORICO Question: sub plus_three 17:28
El_Che the travis schrodinger build: it only builds when you're not looking
COMBORICO Nevermind. 17:30
Coleoid Hm, this library has Python and Lua bindings, so we know return-structs-by-value is solvable. I can just write my wrappers for now, though. Thanks, timotimo++ and geekasaur++. 17:31
geekosaur python makes you write C code to bind native libs anyway 17:32
(as does perl 5)
and for that matter lua
Geth doc: acea6c5f1b | (Alex Chen)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/regexes.pod6
Put section "Look-around assertions" to proper pos

Seems its author directly appends this doc with it.		 17:33
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/regexes
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eugene_barsky hi 17:41
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[Coke] tries to decipher that commit message. 17:51
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[Coke] is very excited to see a skip test -> preamble change, though. :) 17:52
oh, I get it. moved the doc (but also did a lot of other stuff)
pmurias blogs.perl.org/users/pawel_murias/2...ittle.html # rakudo.js update 17:53
geekosaur yes, and accuses the doc's author of adding all new content near the end before the 'postamble' sections
ilmari or, allowing for imperfect grammar, just this section 17:55
appends -> appended 17:56
wander how do I report a bug on RT?
I've reached rt.perl.org, but got lost 17:57
[Coke] email [email@hidden.address] 17:58
github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/rt-introduction
github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues is also open (recently) 17:59
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wander got it 17:59
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lizmat pmurias++ 18:48
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ugexe m: Grammar.new 18:57
camelia P6opaque: no such attribute '@!list' in type Capture when trying to bind a value
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
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Thrush I'm a little confused about the difference(s) between the '..' and '...' operators. 19:14
m: 'a87' ... 'b09' 19:15
camelia Potential difficulties:
Useless use of ... in sink context
at <tmp>:1
------> 3'a87' ...7⏏5 'b09'
Thrush m: ('a87' ... 'b09').say
camelia (a87 a88 a89 a77 a78 a79 a67 a68 a69 a57 a58 a59 a47 a48 a49 a37 a38 a39 a27 a28 a29 a17 a18 a19 a07 a08 a09 b87 b88 b89 b77 b78 b79 b67 b68 b69 b57 b58 b59 b47 b48 b49 b37 b38 b39 b27 b28 b29 b17 b18 b19 b07 b08 b09)
Thrush In the command "('a87' ... 'b09').say", why is "a77" and "a78" included? 19:16
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geekosaur it counts forward from a to b and backward from 8 to 0 and forward from 7 to 9 19:18
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Thrush geekosaur, this is different than the behavior I'd expect, coming from a Perl5 background. Is there any way to emulate Perl5's behavior? 19:26
[Coke] Inline::Perl5 19:27
Not built in, as far as I know, no 19:28
geekosaur I thought there was amodule
the problem with the perl 5 one is it doesn;t generalize
it's a bundle of special cases for specific patterns and failure for anything that doesn;t fit those patterns 19:29
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Thrush m: my @a = ['a98'] ; @a.push( @a[*-1].succ ) until @a[*-1] eq 'b09' 19:52
camelia ( no output )
Thrush m: my @a = ['a98'] ; @a.push( @a[*-1].succ ) until @a[*-1] eq 'b09'; @a.say
camelia [a98 a99 b00 b01 b02 b03 b04 b05 b06 b07 b08 b09]
Thrush It looks like " @a.push( @a[*-1].succ ) until @a[*-1] eq 'b09' " is one way to do it. 19:53
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timotimo that'd be much easier written as: 20:03
m: say "a98", *.succ ... "b09"
camelia (a98 a99 b00 b01 b02 b03 b04 b05 b06 b07 b08 b09)
timotimo dang, they had already left 20:06
El_Che timotimo: it looks like travis is hammered with evening 20:07
timotimo ?
El_Che build take a lot of time to start 20:08
and in my project it runs 1 subbuild at the time instead of the 4 or 5 it normally dies
timotimo i'm confused, why are you writing me this?
El_Che I am confused as well 20:09
wasn't meant to be specificaaly to you
to much tab magic, I guess
sorry