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Set by Zoffix on 25 July 2018.
ttkp6 he makes some atute observations, but seems to have missed the mark with regard to templates. there are plenty of examples of frameworks (like Dancer2) which allow programmers to use their preferred templating modules. 00:00
still, bookmarking Oddmuse6 cgit repo .. want to follow this 00:02
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AlexDaniel ttkp6: your own fork? 00:12
ttkp6: I mean, is there a fork that we don't know about? :) I think the intention was to list all of them here (under Forks): oddmuse.org/wiki/What_Is_Oddmuse 00:15
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AlexDaniel hah “I thought the logo should be a mad cow.” 00:16
interestingly the current mad cow logo was added just a few months ago :)
previously it was the inverted smiley 🙃
ttkp6 ttkp6 - yeah, my own fork 00:17
AlexDaniel .tell kensanata colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log...9-17#l1054 colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log...8-09-18#l1
yoleaux AlexDaniel: I'll pass your message to kensanata.
ttkp6 oops
AlexDaniel - yeah, my own fork
I haven't published anything yet because it's woefully incomplete 00:18
AlexDaniel ttkp6: is it publicly available or are you just using it for yourself?
ttkp6 AlexDaniel - I'll publish it when it's not embarrassingly horrible
AlexDaniel let us know once you do :)
ttkp6 okie-doke
will likely publish it to CPAN as App::drunkenfay when the day comes 00:19
AlexDaniel ttkp6: also feel free to discuss it with Alex if you want, he's `kensanata` here and on #oddmuse (but he's not always online) 00:20
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ttkp6 AlexDaniel - thank you, good to know 00:20
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ttkp6 reviewing the commit logs, all I've done is make the flat file storage scheme more scalable, improved BannedContent to pull additional rules from external sources, changed the page format, and wrote a deployer script 00:29
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ttkp6 on the to-do list: user registration and login, support ~~~~ to insert name and date a la mediawiki, embed markup help image, "Talk" link at top of page a la mediawikil, incorporate Lucy for searching 00:30
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AlexDaniel ttkp6: sounds great 00:43
ttkp6: btw these can probably be merged directly into oddmuse if done right 00:44
ttkp6: and a commit bit for the repo should be available if you want to do that, just ask kensanata 00:45
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lindylex I am try to negate a string literal not sure how to do that. pastebin.com/BGKQqSqV 03:36
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geekosaur regex doesn't do negation that well 03:56
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geekosaur you are better off doing that part outside the regex. if for some reason it absolutely must be in the regex, you need to test what you've matched after matching it --- and you must prevent backtracking, or it will get past your "917" by matching "91" 04:00
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AlexDaniel lindylex: you can try something like: / <!before 917> <$phonenumber> / 04:32
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lindylex AlexDaniel : still catches 1-526-553-1234 1.917.123.4567 05:46
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TisonKun Hi #perl6, I wonder how to define a class method. It look like method(ClassName:U:) { ... } works but get lost with "ClassName:U:" part, especially the latter ":", what it is? 06:00
tyil TisonKun: from my experience that's not needed to put in anyway 06:01
just method($foo, $bar) { "Got a $foo and $bar" } would work fine
geekosaur that's only if you want ametdo that does something different as a class method than as an instance method
what it means is that the invocant (instance) is the class's type object
:U means the value provided must be undefined; the following colon separates the invocant from the other parameters. Normally you don't have an explicit invocant 06:02
er, want a method that does 06:04
hm, although I guess if you want a compile time error for using a class method on an instance, you might use that form of definition 06:05
TisonKun thanks, like A.f(args) treated as if A::f(A, args), the latter colon separates the invocant
tyil: you are right, but here I want a more exactly method that must be invoked by a class, not instance. 06:06
tyil also, anyone on the mastodons that have more knowledge of Cro to help this guy out: mastodon.social/web/statuses/100740628894585564 ? 06:07
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buggable New CPAN upload: Scalar-Util-0.0.5.tar.gz by ELIZABETH modules.perl6.org/dist/Scalar::Util...:ELIZABETH 08:44
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Ulti m: say 1.2.round(0.1).WHAT; say 1.2.round(1e-1).WHAT; 09:13
camelia (Rat)
(Num)
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lizmat clickbaits p6weekly.wordpress.com/2018/09/17/...ersus-six/ 09:14
Ulti ^ that can be a quite large gotcha since you're unlikely to write 0.0000000000000001 as a constant literal but would write 0.01
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Ven` ;q 09:14
oops. Hi, #perl6 09:15
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pmurias moritz: re new jvm stuff we have the initial stages of the truffle backend 09:34
tyil hi Ven` :> 09:35
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lizmat in a similar vein to timotimo's operator: 09:44
m: sub postfix:<§>($a is rw) { LEAVE $a = Nil; $a<> }; my $a = 42; say $a; say $a§; say $a
camelia 42
42
(Any)
lizmat aka, take a rw value, return its ro value while resetting it on the fly 09:45
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lizmat inspired by making .kv iterators 09:45
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pmurias are there any guidelines for creating new repositories in the perl6 organization? 10:13
like is creating a repo there for the rakudo.js-in-browser-using-parcel example cool?
lizmat sounds cool enough and perl 6 related enough to me, but that's just my opinion: others may differ 10:14
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pmurias thanks, it seems that having it the org removes the hassle of having to give commit bits but unwritten rules are always hard to navigate ;) 10:18
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pmurias github.com/perl6/perl6-parcel-example # Simple example of running rakudo.js in the browser 10:19
timotimo looking forward to it growing :) 10:23
buggable New CPAN upload: Array-Sparse-0.0.4.tar.gz by ELIZABETH modules.perl6.org/dist/Array::Spars...:ELIZABETH 10:24
pmurias the big problem ahead of making rakudo.js more fun to play with is figuring out a good way to tree shake away large parts of the setting :/ 10:25
lizmat pmurias: is module loading supported ?
pmurias lizmat: not yet in the browser, it's the very first version that installs from npm 10:26
lizmat right.. ok 10:27
well I was thinking that maybe some parts of the setting could be optionally autoloaded somehow
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lizmat think about set operators e.g. 10:27
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pmurias lizmat: loading stuff we aren't sure if we need seems like a likely part of the solution 10:35
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pmurias tools are spliting large javascript bundles into loaded on demand parts already 10:35
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kensanata I'm observing something strange: whenever I edit my code and run it, e.g. running my tests, I get "This type (NQPMu) does not support associative operations" -- and when I run it again, it either works or I get a real error. Any ideas what this is about? 10:40
yoleaux 00:17Z <AlexDaniel> kensanata: colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log...9-17#l1054 colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log...8-09-18#l1
kensanata ttkp6: What were you referring to when you mentioned templates> 10:42
?
Ven` ;qa 10:51
pmurias: nicely done, I don't remember if you touched the "FFI" part of rakudojs? 10:52
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Zoffix kensanata: are you using multi-threading constructs in your code? 10:53
pmurias Ven`: you mean calling js or doing native calls to c libraries? 10:54
Ven` calling JS
pmurias Ven`: a tiny bit from the nqp level 10:55
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pmurias Ven`: github.com/perl6/nqp/blob/master/t...tcomp-js.t 10:56
kensanata Zoffix: No. I think I found the issue by chance: there's was some code I didn't use yet which was supposed to append a string to another string and I used $foo ~= $bar. After rewriting this, the warning disappeared.
Ven` pmurias: I meant FFI 10:57
Zoffix kensanata: too bad. There's likely a bug in rakudo you were tickling. Would be nice to find it 10:58
pmurias Ven`: you mean like declaring the signatures of javascript functions?
Ven` yes
Zoffix So far I traced the error to "die_no_ass_del" routine...
>:)
pmurias Ven`: I'm not convinced we should do that that way
Ven` I'm convinced we should write a TypeScript-to-rakudojs-fa??ade converter :P 10:59
pmurias using typescript definitions would be cool for sure 11:01
Zoffix nqp: nqp::deletekey(Foo, 'x')
camelia This type (NQPMu) does not support associative operations
at <tmp>:1 (<ephemeral file>:<mainline>)
from gen/moar/stage2/NQPHLL.nqp:1675 (/home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-1/share/nqp/lib/NQPHLL.moarvm:eval)
from gen/moar/stage2/NQPHLL.nqp:1914 (/home/cam…
Zoffix kensanata: if you manage to golf it down, please report it: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/new
pmurias Ven`: for regular untyped js I'm hoping for stuff to work fairly okish without having to write a FFI layer 11:02
Ven` well, I suppose you'll always have to be in OO-land
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pmurias just like calling Perl 5 using Inline::Perl5 11:02
Ven`: what do you mean by being in OO-land? 11:03
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kensanata Zoffix: I'm trying but failing... 11:04
Zoffix ok 11:07
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buggable New CPAN upload: Array-Agnostic-0.0.5.tar.gz by ELIZABETH modules.perl6.org/dist/Array::Agnos...:ELIZABETH 11:24
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CIAvash[m] pmurias: getting a build error test.p6: Cannot find module '/home/pmurias/rakudo/src/vm/js/perl6-runtime' 11:29
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pmurias CIAvash[m]: I'll look into it, seems like a hardcoded path leaked 11:34
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Ven` pmurias: do you plan to support `import :from<JS>;`? 11:55
pmurias Ven`: yes 11:57
CIAvash[m]: hopefully the version used in the current HEAD of the example repo doesn't depend on stuff from /home/pmurias 12:00
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pmurias Ven`: I'm trying to get it to the sanely installs and doesn't explode on other machines phase today but stuff like being to use Perl 6 and JS modules seems like something that's mandatory to have fun with it 12:04
Ven`: I looked into typescript a bit and it also seems using ts definitions seems like something that could come in handy 12:06
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Ven` yeah, I'm only half-joking when I talk about a .d.ts converter. Maybe not joking at all. 12:08
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CIAvash[m] pmurias: that's fixed, but I'm getting another error now: gist.github.com/CIAvash/d57ae64fa5...3d4ed890ee 12:13
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pmurias CIAvash[m]: what's your node.js version? 12:18
CIAvash[m] pmurias: v10.10.0 12:20
pmurias I reproduced the error message on my box turns out it was masked by the parcel caches :( 12:21
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CIAvash[m] pmurias: not an issue, but I think for executing the binary you can do `npx parcel index.html` (in README) 12:27
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pmurias Ven`: to make use of the typescript definitions Perl 6 would have to have real gradual typing 12:42
Ven` we do, we have Any :P.
pmurias Ven`: isn't that dynamic typing? 12:44
masak I think the `Any` thing was a joke, but... 12:45
`any` in TypeScript means the lack of (static) typing, which I guess one could refer to as dynamic typing (only)
pmurias Ven`: we could turn the typescript gradual typing into Perl6y runtime type assertions 12:46
Ven` well, a Perl 6 runtime type assertion is a "$ where Foo" instead of "Foo $" for subs
pmurias masak: doesn't mean something is weakly typed rather then dynamically typed checked in TypeScript 12:48
?
masak "weakly typed" as in "type coercions happen instead of type mismatch errors"? 12:49
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buggable New CPAN upload: Getopt-Advance-1.0.1.tar.gz by ALOREN modules.perl6.org/dist/Getopt::Adva...pan:ALOREN 13:14
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CIAvash[m] weekly: Author of Python books: twitter.com/dabeaz/status/1042013193370050560 13:54
notable6 CIAvash[m], Noted!
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ccc Would somebody like to explain why this is an error: Type check failed for return value; expected Array[Pair] but got Array[Pair].new(0 => 2, 0 => 4, ... 14:50
timotimo uh oh, i wonder if that's interning fail 14:52
ccc The code: method transpositions(--> Array[Pair]) {my Pair @ret; ...; @ret.push(pair $x => $y); ... return @ret}
timotimo that does look correct
jnthn Yeah, I think there's an issue filed about that somewhere
ccc The code: method transpositions(--> Array[Pair]) {my Pair @ret; ...; @ret.push($x => $y); ... return @ret} 14:53
timotimo but this isn't in two different comp units, i don't think? :(
ccc no
Should I register an issue, and if so, to which repository does it belong? 14:58
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Zoffix ccc: You can file all the Issues in github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/new but that particular issue has already been filed before RT#127309 and G#2182 15:04
synopsebot RT#127309 [new]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=127309 Type check failure for Array[...] as return value caused by irrelevent inclusion from another compunit
Zoffix R#2182
synopsebot R#2182 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/2182 [regression] Array[Pair] as return constraint does not work
Zoffix Also RT#132525 15:05
synopsebot RT#132525 [open]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=132525 [REGRESSION][PRECOMP] type constraints to Array[Pair] don't work when precompiled
ccc Ok, thanks
El_Che releasable6: status 15:15
releasable6 El_Che, Next release will happen when it's ready. 1 blocker. 112 out of 114 commits logged
El_Che, Details: gist.github.com/8e8154d170d975be87...5232571a68
Zoffix m: say 0.0000000000000001.nude.tail.log: 2 15:16
camelia 53.1508495181978
Zoffix Ulti: 0.0000000000000001 is almost a maximum Rat denominator, so you'd have to switch to Num soon enough anyway. Currently, that operation follows the pattern that two different numerics get .Bridge'd (which in this case is to a Num) 15:17
Ulti: also things have a much better chance of being seen and addressed when they're filed as an Issue, rather than mentioned on a non-dev chat. 15:18
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Zoffix (INB4: while 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 is a Rat; it's a fattish Rat and basically all non-FatRat operations with it would degrade it to a Num, unless the result gets a chance to become less than 64-bit denominator. It'd violate the patter to produce a fattish rat through .round) 15:20
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El_Che since I retired a perl6 that ran in prod for 2 years (it was an app to help with the migration of a CA provider, query servers and bug users) because the migration was completed, I added our first perl 6 service on our internal cloud. As a byproduct there are now (internal) visible perl6 Docker base images :) 15:23
who knows :)
timotimo \o/ 15:24
El_Che the funny detail is that this is a smallish script that monitors oracle jdk releases and puts the rpms in our internal artefact repo :) 15:26
so our Java images are brought to you by Rakudo Perl 6 (TM)
:)
AlexDaniel yesterday I had to talk to people about perl 6 15:29
and the confusion that comes because of its name is very strong…
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El_Che I am too nice to say "no shit, Sherlock" (however, I may be sneaku enough to imply it) 15:30
jk
/o\
AlexDaniel one thing that I noticed is that even if you explain the whole thing about perl5 and perl 6, people still keep referring to it as “perl”
maybe because it's easier to pronounce, I don't know
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El_Che AlexDaniel: it's because they are normal 15:30
and can count sequentially 15:31
:)
it's a lost battle
AlexDaniel but then someone else joins the discussion, hears “perl” and then it's even harder to unconfuse it
El_Che I just say Rakudo
except to people that know perl
ofperfection[m] Yeah, I'm excited for the rebranding effort
El_Che don't hold your breath 15:32
ofperfection[m] When my cohorts here I'm using perl there is usually some eye rolling or wincing
hard to get people excited about it
El_Che yeah, people use it as banter at work
me being the perl guy (because of the lack of other candidates) :) 15:33
AlexDaniel yeah, my day was unnecessarily hard yesterday because of the damn name… and I really hope we can fix that so that others don't have to feel the same way
on a related note, my university changed its name
well, its short name to be precise
El_Che it's good that I can troll the rubyst with the same arguments
AlexDaniel not entirely sure why, but it was weird, confusing and sucked anyway
El_Che "Oh, haven't we moved that ruby code to go yet?" 15:34
AlexDaniel: political parties around here change their names once in a while
and sadly enough it works
ofperfection[m] oof
El_Che ("I don't want to live in this planet any more" :) )
AlexDaniel .tell Zoffix I hope the alias thingie is still part of the plan for v6.d. Pleaaaase. colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log...09-18#l498 15:36
yoleaux AlexDaniel: I'll pass your message to Zoffix.
ofperfection[m] +1
El_Che my I should add a "ln -s /opt/rakudo-pkg/bin/perl6 /opt/rakudo-pkg/bin/rakudo" to the Linux pkg build scripts :) 15:37
so people do "#!/usr/bin/env rakudo" :)
AlexDaniel that totally makes sense and is not related to the alias anyway
maybe I want to have more than one compiler installed and I want to run something specifically with rakudo 15:38
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El_Che while my pkgs are opniated (they include zef) I don't want to start a war 15:38
AlexDaniel but maybe rakudo itself should produce a `rakudo` executable? 15:39
diakopter but,.. a war with whom? who might realistically object
AlexDaniel along with a `perl` one
diakopter heh
AlexDaniel or one symlinked to another
El_Che (I am contemplating adding the needed libs for a working repl, thought?)
AlexDaniel: that would be the pratical renaming, e.g. as output for -v as well
that is way further than an alias though 15:40
AlexDaniel huh? why?
El_Che if even perl6{.exe} calls itself rakudo, then it will be the main name 15:41
in my eyes
AlexDaniel ???
evalable6 Stub code executed
in block <unit> at /tmp/98uO7XzRD4 line 1
AlexDaniel name of the compiler, yes
El_Che I C
good enough
AlexDaniel El_Che: or if not, then let's say I want to install rakudo along with another perl6 compiler 15:42
El_Che make the main one 'rakudo' and smaller ones 'rakudo-js' or something?
AlexDaniel then how can I differentiate?
El_Che AlexDaniel: install path?
AlexDaniel El_Che: ok, but what does that mean?
so I do apt install rakudo
and then apt instal oenuhoneuh
I'd get the other one uninstalled because they both want to be `perl6`, no? 15:43
El_Che apt-cache search perl
"shall I install the old one or the most recent one?"
/civil-war-started-by-debian
while apt-cache search rakudo doesn't have that effect 15:44
AlexDaniel ok, actually, I guess I'm not qualified to have an opinion on that :)
maybe we should ask domidumont or robertle 15:45
diakopter I have not heard of this oenuhoneuh
El_Che AlexDaniel: this is the Internet (no one knows you're a dog)
(In case the reference is lost: assets.media-marketing.com/wp-conte...e-pas.png) 15:46
diakopter: it's like rakudo, but faster and with a syntax close to Perl 5. 15:47
diakopter google returns no results
El_Che diakopter: it will be announce in Riga
by AlexDaniel
diakopter how is it like rakudo if it has a syntax close to Perl 5 15:48
ofperfection[m] All the current learning materials assume Rakudo syntax do they not
El_Che ofperfection[m]: there is only rakudo
AlexDaniel the announcement will include a tutorial on how to come up with a good name by hitting the home row keys on a Dvorak layout :) 15:49
El_Che lol
Juerd dvorak++
learn.dvorak.nl/ !!!1 :D
AlexDaniel ofperfection[m]: the official documentation on docs.perl6.org/ draws a clear line for perl6 vs rakudo features 15:50
Juerd apt-get install snthueoat
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Zoffix . 15:50
yoleaux 15:36Z <AlexDaniel> Zoffix: I hope the alias thingie is still part of the plan for v6.d. Pleaaaase. colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log...09-18#l498
AlexDaniel` ofperfection: for example: docs.perl6.org/programs/01-debuggi...unction_dd
Zoffix AlexDaniel: it is: twitter.com/zoffix/status/1026176474058055680
El_Che Perl 6: create you own grammars, slangs and proglang name! 15:51
diakopter how is it like rakudo if it has a syntax close to Perl 5
AlexDaniel` ofperfection: generally rakudo-specific features are not even documented, but some worthy mentions (like `dd`) are
El_Che I don't think it's a good idea
ofperfection[m] Okay, my uses aren't sophisticated enough to be affected
El_Che we'll end up with dialects 15:52
AlexDaniel Zoffix: ok, good. Thank you ♥
Zoffix: let me know if any help is needed
AlexDaniel optimistically assumes he can be of any help for that
El_Che "best viewed with Rakudo 6.d-moarvm-js-Internet Explorer 1024x768"
do you guys remember the oracle jdk renaming? 15:53
(and girls)
Zoffix FWIW: There was already a pumpking-rejected ticket on renaming the executable R#2095
synopsebot R#2095 [closed]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/2095 [6.d review][build] Do not use `perl6` as executable
AlexDaniel oh, right 15:57
so you can probably use perl6-m to mean rakudo on moar
fine :)
El_Che well the single entrypoint does not help is the reason to change it is the "perl" en "6" part 15:58
*if
diakopter someone help me understand what is this new perl6?
El_Che it helps with the discussion about the compiler ecosystem in the future 15:59
[Coke] regarding perl6 vs. rakudo executables. It's my understanding that are already some packages that provide that prior art; that if you install 2 things that provide a service, the package installs cooperate so you can choose which one gets the real name, but both get their own name.
El_Che like alternatives in Linux?
[Coke] ISTR that pmichaud has mentioned that before. that seems like a very reasonable thing for a rakudo package to do. 16:00
El_Che it does so by setting syslinks to the correct path
what about the ln -s perl6 rakudo idea?
bbl train arrived
[Coke] reads www.tutorialspoint.com/unix_command...atives.htm sure. No idea if pacakage managers support the aliases out of the box or if you'd have to do it yourself as the pkg mgr. 16:01
Zoffix m: dd 9930972392403501.round(.1) 16:02
camelia 9930972392403501.0
Zoffix oh, nm, I have old perl6 with that math bug. Thought it still existed on HEAD 16:03
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Zoffix Ulti: actually, it's not bridged to Num. The type of argument is used, except when rounding a Complex, in which case the result is Complex 16:10
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Altreus lizmat: I found an error in opensource.com/article/18/9/signatures-perl-6 - you've put «if (exists %named{bar}) {» in a Perl5 snippet, where of course it should be $named{bar} 16:22
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Document .round's return type behaviour

Spec: github.com/perl6/roast/commit/171a1c59e3		 16:28
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Changes routine headlines

If a routine is only defined as sub, change to 'sub name', if only by method to 'method name', and if by both to 'routine name' - where this was not already the case.		 16:29
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Merge pull request #2318 from MorayJ/cool-routine-fixes

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Adds straightforward example for feed operator

Response to: The documentation on ==> should get to the point faster #2316		 16:42
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/operators
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Merge pull request #2317 from MorayJ/feed-operator

Adds straightforward example for feed operator
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lizmat Altreus: yeah, I can't change the article anymore 16:57
Altreus: someone else (you?) also spotted it, I've confirmed in a reply to his comment 16:58
stmuk_ I have my Butterfly Book!
ofperfection[m] Butterfly book? 16:59
timotimo brian d. foy's i imagine
stmuk_ shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920062776.do 17:00
timotimo $ perl Configure.pl --prefix=$MOAR_PREFIX $MVM_OPTIONS --cc="$CC" $MVM_debug $MVM_optimize;
Can't locate strict.pm in @INC
what the heck?
stmuk_ actually it should be probably have been a moth (cf. llama)
timotimo hah 17:01
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pmurias CIAvash[m]: what browser are you using? 17:37
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CIAvash[m] pmurias: qutebrowser which uses webengine which uses chromium. I'm not on my computer right now, I can try it on Firefox tomorrow. 17:58
pmurias CIAvash[m]: rakudo.js uses native BigInts which as far as I know don't work in firefox yet 18:05
CIAvash[m]: I test it on newish chrome, it seems likely the didn't upgrade V8 in qutebrowser yet 18:07
CIAvash[m]: anyway thanks a lot for helping to make the parcel bundling part portable
CIAvash[m] pmurias: that's probably it, webengine is usually behind chrome. No problem. 18:12
pmurias I didn't invest (much) time into portability for browsers with non-cutting edge features for rakudo.js as it's a problem that goes away with time 18:18
;)
CIAvash[m] 😃 18:20
El_Che pmurias: isn't pretty much the point of a JS port portability? 18:24
(as when ready, not when work in progress, I mean)
pmurias El_Che: when ready it will make sense to spend some time to all the popular browsers 18:25
El_Che yes, that's what I mean, not now 18:27
but must not be forgotten then :)
I don't want to hear rakudo active X jokes :)
pmurias: do you still post about the port? 18:28
I remember some post on blog.perl.org, iirc
pmurias I'll write on soonish now that I have something reportable ;)
El_Che looking forward to it 18:29
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sarna o/ 19:51
AlexDaniel \o 19:52
sarna y'all know the red monk language rankings?
redmonk.com/sogrady/2018/08/10/lan...ings-6-18/
I didn't see Perl 6 there
AlexDaniel maybe they count perl5 and perl 6 as the same thing 19:53
sarna so I shot them an email, Perl 6 is gonna be included the next time :)
lizmat sarna++
El_Che sarna++
AlexDaniel oh
sarna++
sarna three, no, six pluses! today's a good day :D
AlexDaniel heh that graph may be a bit misleading 19:54
KiCad is not a programming language :)
sarna well, it's not ideal 19:55
more accurate than TIOBE though, in my opinion
AlexDaniel I don't mind… more people will know about kicad, that's great :) 19:56
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buggable New CPAN upload: CroX-HTTP-Auth-Munge-0.1.tar.gz by CTILMES modules.perl6.org/dist/CroX::HTTP::...an:CTILMES 20:54
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jnthn Cool, I think that's the first CroX module :) 21:40
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lizmat .o( program with your feet :-) 21:48
Geth ecosystem: 61df9639ca | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Remove NASA.pm6 from ecosystem

Most API services unimplemented and no longer maintained.		 21:52
AlexDaniel weeeeell… that's not exactly what I meant… but yeah… I guess… 21:54
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tyil weekly: alexschroeder.ch/wiki/2018-09-18_T...ing_Perl_6 22:14
notable6 tyil, Noted!
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timotimo hi Xliff, hi k_89 23:24
Xliff timotimo.
Are there any plans on getting $=pod Pod::Block::Named structures into something easier to access than an array? 23:25
Thinking something like %=pod<data> would give me a Str of data if only one section was defined... or an Array if there were more.
timotimo haven't touched pod in a looooong time
Xliff LOL
Just looking through it and was wondering why it is all in an _array_ of all things.
timotimo i could imagine that working, especially as many items pretend to be an array of one item
Xliff But easiest implementation wins. 23:26
timotimo could be because it's supposed to be ordered?
Xliff How would one get access to $=pod from outside its scope?
I would assume that was made difficult for good reasons. 23:27
timotimo hm, you mean $=pod variables are kind of lexically scoped?
Xliff Yeah. Would like to see if writing a module to get all of the Pod::Block::Named sections into a hash would be possible.

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