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| holyghost | So that should be my first working CPAN package | 00:00 | |
| this last working version is also on github.com/theholyghost2 | 00:04 | ||
| timotimo | the source code won't be visible on modules.perl6.org for at least an hour or so | ||
| holyghost | I know | 00:05 | |
| timotimo | you're still using ok where you want to be using is-deeply or something similar | ||
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| timotimo | the first argument is the value that's supposed to be checked and the second argument is what comment to output as the description | 00:05 | |
| so you're just checking all these values whether they boolify to true or false | 00:06 | ||
| holyghost | It's all numbers which get compared with 'ok' | 00:08 | |
| the system itself is foolproof | |||
| timotimo | no | 00:09 | |
| ok does not compare numbers | |||
| m: use Test; ok 1, 2; ok 3, 5; ok 1, 1; | 00:10 | ||
| camelia | ok 1 - 2 ok 2 - 5 ok 3 - 1 |
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| timotimo | m: use Test; ok 0, 0; ok 0, 1; ok 1, 0; | ||
| camelia | not ok 1 - # Failed test at <tmp> line 1 not ok 2 - 1 # Failed test '1' # at <tmp> line 1 ok 3 - |
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| holyghost | m: use Test; ok 0.111, 0.111; | 00:12 | |
| camelia | ok 1 - 0.111 | ||
| holyghost | m: use Test; ok 0.111, 0.112; | ||
| camelia | ok 1 - 0.112 | ||
| holyghost | ok, never mind | ||
| timotimo | m: use Test; is-deeply 1, 1, "one is one"; | 00:14 | |
| camelia | ok 1 - one is one | ||
| timotimo | m: use Test; is-deeply 1, 2, "one is one"; | ||
| camelia | not ok 1 - one is one # Failed test 'one is one' # at <tmp> line 1 # expected: 2 # got: 1 |
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| buggable | New CPAN upload: Mathx-Stat-0.2.3.tar.gz by HOLYGHOST modules.perl6.org/dist/Mathx::Stat:...:HOLYGHOST | 00:57 | |
| holyghost | ^-- I removed the chaos theory, which should become Mathx::Stat Chaos | 00:58 | |
| s/Mathx::Stat Chaos/Mathx::Chaos | 00:59 | ||
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| holyghost | I'm going to try to sleep a bit, so U get back into day phase | 01:28 | |
| holyghost is AFK ATM | 01:29 | ||
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| holyghost | good morning | 04:50 | |
| I'm going to debug a package a day, later on Bayes::Learn | 04:51 | ||
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| buggable | New CPAN upload: AI-Agent-0.2.6.tar.gz by HOLYGHOST modules.perl6.org/dist/AI::Agent:cpan:HOLYGHOST | 05:17 | |
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| holyghost | ^-- AI::Agent should be ok now | 05:18 | |
| working I mean | 05:21 | ||
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| buggable | New CPAN upload: Bayes-Learn-0.2.1.tar.gz by HOLYGHOST modules.perl6.org/dist/Bayes::Learn...:HOLYGHOST | 05:57 | |
| holyghost | ^-- the brute force learner should work | 06:04 | |
| which is also a good learner BTW | |||
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| samcv | AlexDaniel, sounds good | 06:39 | |
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| holyghost | hi jmerelo | 06:48 | |
| jmerelo: Mathx-Stat and AI-Agent work with several tests | 06:51 | ||
| I've uploaded to CPAN, now there's 3 packages left which I will debug | 06:52 | ||
| jmerelo | I'll check it out | ||
| holyghost | thx | 06:53 | |
| jmerelo | holyghost: please add some instructions to the README.md | ||
| I'd better put that in issues | |||
| holyghost | what do you mean by "instructions" ? | 06:55 | |
| jmerelo | holyghost: check out the issues | ||
| holyghost | ok | ||
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| jmerelo | And we _still_ need contributions to the Advent Calendar github.com/perl6/mu/blob/master/mi...8/schedule | 07:06 | |
| holyghost | they removed me :-) | 07:07 | |
| and I cannot write good english | 07:08 | ||
| jmerelo | You were never there, far as I can tell github.com/perl6/mu/commits/master...8/schedule | ||
| holyghost | hm | 07:10 | |
| jmerelo | holyghost: anyway, there's no time to copy-edit or even review them... so it probably makes sense if you wait until next year and submit _early_ | 07:13 | |
| releasable6: status | |||
| releasable6 | jmerelo, Next release will happen when it's ready. 2 blockers. 79 out of 163 commits logged (⚠ 1 warnings) | ||
| jmerelo, Details: gist.github.com/159b08e66f969e88a0...4a372f2bbf | |||
| holyghost | jmerelo: ok, I'll try to write something for it later on | 07:19 | |
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| holyghost | jmerelo: could you check the README.md now ? | 07:21 | |
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| holyghost | I updated so it's not too much clutter | 07:22 | |
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| holyghost | ok, I close the issue then | 07:24 | |
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| jmerelo | holyghost: it still does not have any example, instructions on how to use it or install it or, in general, what is usual in a README.md | 07:31 | |
| holyghost: it's also usual to refer to issues from commits using simply their number (#3 in this case), close them from an issue (closes #3) and not close them until the OP is satisfied. Which I'm not, since it still has no examples | 07:32 | ||
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| jmerelo | nine: I just seen someone who has not requested a day in the Advent Calendar github.com/perl6/mu/blob/master/mi...8/schedule | 07:34 | |
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| jmerelo | Hi, b2gills ! May I interest you in writing something for the Perl 6 Advent Calendar? | 07:35 | |
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| jmerelo | I'll have to write a bot or something... | 07:36 | |
| holyghost | jmerelo: Sorry, I'll take my time then to remaster | ||
| I only slept 4 hours | |||
| I have the intention to use the test suite as an example | 07:37 | ||
| with extra explanations | |||
| I thought it was ok | 07:38 | ||
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| andrzejku | .seen araraloren | 07:44 | |
| yoleaux | I saw araraloren 4 Nov 2018 16:06Z in #perl6: <araraloren> Zoffix okay, thanks :) | ||
| Xliff_ | Getting this: 'Non ast passed to WANTED: NQPMu' when using ?? !!. Has anyone else seen this before? | 07:50 | |
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| jmerelo | Xliff_: hey, would you want to write somethign for the Advent Calendar? github.com/perl6/mu/blob/master/mi...8/schedule | 07:58 | |
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| jmerelo | andrzejku: likewise: github.com/perl6/mu/blob/master/mi...8/schedule | 07:58 | |
| Xliff_ | jmerelo: What's the time frame? | ||
| jmerelo | Xliff_: well, you'll need to have it ready a few days before the day you claim | 07:59 | |
| And we have Dec 1st, 3rd... and many others. | |||
| Xliff_ | Is this for December? | ||
| jmerelo | Xliff_: right. | ||
| Xliff_ | jmerelo: Let me think about it. I would like to write something, but am rather swamped, at the moment. | 08:00 | |
| jmerelo | Xliff_: you can claim Dec 24th :-) | ||
| Xliff_ | You never know, though. The bug might strike me and I can come up with something in a day. | ||
| Well. I'd rather remain a hold-out until I KNOW I will be writing something. | |||
| Would rather not disappoint by having nothing. | 08:01 | ||
| jmerelo | Xliff_: OK. Thanks for considering it anyway | ||
| Xliff_: it's not like the slots are flying... Sadly. | |||
| Xliff_ | I will keep in mind, though. Might give me something to do next week. | ||
| OK! I will see what I can come up with. | |||
| jmerelo | Xliff_: you don't need to write it now, only by the day you claim in December. A few days before that, if possible. | ||
| Xliff_ | Yes. I know. :) | 08:03 | |
| jmerelo | Xliff_: great :-) | 08:04 | |
| buggable | New CPAN upload: Mathx-Stat-0.2.5.tar.gz by HOLYGHOST modules.perl6.org/dist/Mathx::Stat:...:HOLYGHOST | 08:07 | |
| holyghost | Xliff_: thx for the issue, I fixed it | 08:08 | |
| jmerelo: I've added examples to the README.md | |||
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| holyghost | I still need to fix the Mathx-Stat main class and ok tests | 08:31 | |
| It should be usable now however | 08:32 | ||
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| Geth | doc: 6ab45c5ec4 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/subscripts.pod6 Adds example to STORE and fixes indexing This closes #2462. In the first case, a real example is added which illustrates how to use. Indexing problem were due to the fact that it was a `=head2` called `method` which is automatically considered for indexing. That was also a problem, since it created a new section, which it should not. |
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| synopsebot_ | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/subscripts | ||
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| jmerelo | holyghost: adding examples to the README does not really merit a new release, even if it's a minor. This should be reserved for bug fixes and functional changes. It's OK if you just leave it at the GitHub repo between releases. | 08:54 | |
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| lizmat clickbaits p6weekly.wordpress.com/2018/11/19/...en-perl-6/ | 10:12 | ||
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| lucasb | I'm editing my Pair object here: github.com/lucasbuchala/p6pairs/bl...ir/More.pm | 15:12 | |
| yoleaux | 19 Nov 2018 23:22Z <AlexDaniel> lucasb: yeah, that's probably the case | ||
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| lucasb | Any comments or criticism welcomed | 15:12 | |
| I'm looking for a name for the distribution, if you have any suggestions :) github.com/lucasbuchala/p6pairs/bl...txt#L4-L17 | 15:13 | ||
| Pair::More is just the working title | |||
| "This dude doesn't know Perl 6 already has a core Pair object?" | 15:14 | ||
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| lucasb | ok, I think the core Pair object has its idiosyncrasies, and I'm ok with it | 15:14 | |
| also, seems a good idea to have a external place to try "pair" ideas | 15:15 | ||
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| buggable | New CPAN upload: Getopt-Advance-1.1.4.tar.gz by ALOREN modules.perl6.org/dist/Getopt::Adva...pan:ALOREN | 15:38 | |
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| lizmat | lucasb: re self.new(:$key, :$value), that's better written as self.bless(:$key, :$value) saves 1 level of indirection | 16:03 | |
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| lucasb | lizmat: I'll change all occurrences. thanks! | 16:22 | |
| lizmat | yw | 16:23 | |
| jnthn | lizmat: Really? self.new calls directly to BUILDALL if self.bless is just the Mu one? | ||
| And that "is it the Mu one" check turns into a constant at specialization time | 16:24 | ||
| lizmat | aaah... yes, we optimized that... still, it's an extra check to see if the bless is the same ? | ||
| ah,.. ok | |||
| lucasb: sorry for the noise... | |||
| lucasb | np. so, no need to change? | ||
| jnthn | The specialization is keyed on the type of `self`, so it's not even an extra guard :) | ||
| lizmat | lucasb: as jnthn said: no, no need to change | 16:25 | |
| jnthn | There's further opts we can do to object construction (we're not beating Ruby/Python at that benchmark yet, dammit) | ||
| But this particular aspect of things is handled pretty well. | 16:26 | ||
| lizmat | yeah, it is :) | ||
| jnthn: we don't have a way to do >>op<< where "op" is a variable, right ? | |||
| jnthn | Bracketed infix function form allows it maybe? | 16:27 | |
| >>[&foo]<< | |||
| lizmat | m: my @a = ^10; dd @a >>[&min]>> 1 | ||
| evalable6 | Array element = [0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1] | ||
| lizmat | whee! | ||
| that should make testing metaops a bit easier | 16:28 | ||
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| lizmat | jnthn: as a way around BEGIN my $h := nqp::hash not working | 16:44 | |
| any thoughts on: | |||
| BEGIN my $h = nqp::hash(...); $h := nqp::decont($h) | 16:45 | ||
| ? | |||
| jnthn | Probably works out alright | ||
| lizmat | would it make sense from a performance point of view ? | ||
| jnthn | But...um...you're not going to mutate this hash at runtime, right? | ||
| lizmat | indeed, not | 16:46 | |
| jnthn | OK, good, otherwise you'll create a load of repossession conflicts :) | ||
| Yeah, decont is cheap enough | |||
| lizmat | it's for things like valid datetime units for later | ||
| there's a bunch of them in core, handled in different ways | |||
| trying to get startup time down | 16:47 | ||
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| lucasb | m: role R[::T] { has T $!x }; class C does R[Any] { method m { $!x = Nil } }; C.new.m | 17:27 | |
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) Died with X::TypeCheck::Assignment in method m at /tmp/12_7kp3CFg line 1 in block <unit> at /tmp/12_7kp3CFg line 1 |
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| lucasb | ^^ is this error correct? | 17:28 | |
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| uzl | lizmat: Thanks for your article on Perl 6 containers. It helped me cleared up some things! | 18:22 | |
| From the article: "If you do not specify a default value, then the type constraint will be assumed." | 18:23 | ||
| In this case, what will be the assumed type constraint? Any? Nil? | |||
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| uzl | From what I gather in Perl 6, variable assignment, instead of binding to a value, binds to a container which makes the variable mutable. What's the approach in Perl 5? | 18:26 | |
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| lucasb | I think it's the same thing. $a = $b, @a = @b, %a = %b all copies the contents of one container to other | 18:33 | |
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| lucasb | different from most other dynamic languages, I think, where "a = b" just copies the object reference | 18:34 | |
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| uzl | lucasb: Are you aware of any other languages that use the concept of containers? | 18:35 | |
| "all copies the contents of one container to other" <- btw, are you referring to P5 or P6? I never heard of container in P5, just references. | 18:36 | ||
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| lucasb | I think "$a = $b", "@a = @b", and "%a = %b" works exactly the same in P5 and P6 | 18:38 | |
| indeed, "containers" in P5 doesn't get talked much, but semantically, it's there | 18:39 | ||
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| uzl | Oh, I see. In the most known P5 books, authors usually something "Perl Graphical Structures" to help the readers visualize how references work. Are there such diagrams to highlight the difference between binding and assigning to a variable in P6? | 18:44 | |
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| hythm_ | Hi #perl6, I'm having trouble writing a recursive routine that takes a list of lists and check the items recursively (take or leave some items based on a condition). I thought of writing a multi, when the argument is a list, call same sub. if the argument is an item, return the item if it meets the condition. I wrote a test in the following link and explained in a more details what I'm trying to achieve | 18:48 | |
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| hythm_ | gist.github.com/hythm7/c0d4a99e50d...81b02b7095 please take look if you can and let me know if you have any suggestions | 18:48 | |
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| lucasb | hythm_: ((1)) doesn't create a nested list | 18:59 | |
| maybe it doesn't matter in the example, but things like "($x)" makes the example harder to read :) | 19:02 | ||
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| lucasb | uzl: sorry, no graphical representation of data structures that I'm aware of. But there are the types hierachy in Graphviz images in docs, you know | 19:03 | |
| hythm_ | lucas, yeah you are right, I was trying to make it simple but I think I made it more complicated. | ||
| uzl | lucasb: That's fine. Thanks! | 19:05 | |
| hythm_ | I used Data::Dump::Tree it makes the data structure more clearer. | 19:06 | |
| uzl | m: my @a = [(1, ((2), (3)))]; say @a.deepmap(-> $_ { not .Int %% 2 }); | ||
| evalable6 | [True (False True)] | ||
| uzl | m: my @a = [(1, ((2), (3)))]; say @a.deepmap(sub $_ { return $_ if not .Int %% 2 }); | 19:07 | |
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) 04===SORRY!04=== Error while compiling /tmp/8z7_1Yj0A0 Missing… |
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| uzl, Full output: gist.github.com/1a0434e4cd9f81066b...da937bb071 | |||
| hythm_ | deepmap works here but it will not work in other scenarios, it works here because (1, ((2), (3))) is a list of two items 1 and ((2), (3)) ,, from the first item it takes 1,, from the second items it takes either 2 or 3 | 19:12 | |
| lucasb | hm, Data::Dump::Tree doesn't seem to be update recently. it's failing the tests | 19:13 | |
| hythm_ | yeah, I think some modules broke due to recent updates, thank you anyway | 19:15 | |
| uzl | yeah. And the other thing, I think, is that you might not able to return the values that meet condition, just the boolean of the evaluation. | 19:16 | |
| hythm_ | true, thats why I'm trying to write a multi with gather & take | 19:17 | |
| the difficult part is in a datastructure like that (($a1, (($b2), ($b3))), ($a1, (($b1), ($b2)))) which is basically a list of two llists,, the first is ($a1, (($b2), ($b3))) and the second is ($a1, (($b1), ($b2))). and I should take all the items from either the first or all the items the second list | 19:20 | ||
| deepmap will go through all the items, so it wont work here | 19:21 | ||
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| [Coke] | why all the extra parens? | 19:24 | |
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| [Coke] | m: say (1,(3,4)) eqv (1,((3),(4))) | 19:25 | |
| evalable6 | True | ||
| hythm_ | the extra parens are to separate the items in groups,, for example ($a1, (($b2), ($b3)) indicates that I need to take $a1,,,, and (($b2), ($b3)) it parens indiocates I need to take either $b2 or $b3 | ||
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| hythm_ | so $b2 and $b3 is grouped to gether to indicate I need to take only one of them | 19:26 | |
| lucasb | hopefully DDT isn't erroneously output (((1,),),) as (((1))) | 19:27 | |
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| [Coke] | so it's just for your use? it has no impact on the p6 interpretation... | 19:27 | |
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| nwellnhof | p6: say 1e0 / 0e0 | 19:28 | |
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) Attempt to divide 1 by zero using / in block <unit> at /tmp/sOLAhQsS99 line 1 |
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| nwellnhof | Why doesn't this return Inf like any sane, IEEE-754-compliant language? | ||
| lucasb | m: say 1.0 / 0 # has to be Rat | 19:29 | |
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) Attempt to divide by zero when coercing Rational to Str in block <unit> at /tmp/p2eC2ySkHC line 1 |
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| lucasb | oops | ||
| m: say (1.0 / 0).Num | |||
| evalable6 | Inf | ||
| hythm_ | hmm, I did not think that (1,(3,4)) eqv (1,((3),(4))) == True | 19:30 | |
| [Coke] | parens don't make lists, commas do | ||
| hythm_ | makes sense, I can use commas, would converting to arrays work too?what if converted to arrays | 19:32 | |
| nwellnhof | p6: say (1e0 / 0e0).Num | 19:34 | |
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) Attempt to divide 1 by zero using / in block <unit> at /tmp/dNotJiyADC line 1 |
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| hythm_ | thanks guys, knowing that (1,(3,4)) eqv (1,((3),(4))) is definitely helpful, will rethink what I need to do | 19:37 | |
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| [Coke] | m: dd (1,(3,4)) | 19:40 | |
| evalable6 | (1, (3, 4)) | ||
| [Coke] | m: dd(1,((3),(4))) | ||
| evalable6 | 1 (3, 4) |
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| [Coke] | m: dd (1,((3),(4))) | 19:41 | |
| evalable6 | (1, (3, 4)) | ||
| [Coke] | point there: 1, space is important on the dd call, but 2, dd is a great tool for diagnostics. | ||
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| perlEnthousiast | I love Perl | 19:54 | |
| I'd like to understand where is Perl 6 development ? | |||
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| perlEnthousiast | how stable is it and is it commonly used in the community ? | 19:56 | |
| AlexDaniel | perlEnthousiast: it is stable enough, I use it all the time | ||
| masak | perlEnthousiast: Perl 5 still has a larger user base, but Perl 6 is surprisingly stable, sometimes downright fast, and has plenty of interesting features built-in | 20:00 | |
| perlEnthousiast: but don't take my word for it! I'm biased :) try it out for yourself | |||
| AlexDaniel | I mean, it's #perl6, most people here are biased :) | 20:01 | |
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| Geth | Blin: 0fac4c09bd | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | 2 files Include module version when drawing the graph This is a temporary hack to make graphs better. |
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| Blin: 3ee7dc3dfa | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | 3 files Save the output of bisected modules It was always there, just not in the output directory. Now it should be very easy to gist everything. |
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| nwellnhof | p6: say 1e0 % 0e0 | 20:05 | |
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) Attempt to divide 1 by zero using % in block <unit> at /tmp/3BoQgZ3SRa line 1 |
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| perlEnthousiast | From what I've seen hosting a web service is native in Perl 6 ? Maybe I'm mistaken | 20:07 | |
| oh it's Cro | |||
| I've been using Mojolicious on Perl 5 | 20:08 | ||
| lizmat | fg | 20:12 | |
| El_Che | %1 | 20:13 | |
| lizmat | :-) | ||
| sjn | 'fg' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. | 20:14 | |
| Geth | ecosystem: 27ffafcd21 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | META.list Add ../Foo module Please feel free to remove it temporarily if it breaks your stuff. |
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| SmokeMachine | m: my @a = ^5; my @b = @a; dd @b | 20:26 | |
| evalable6 | Array @b = [0, 1, 2, 3, 4] | ||
| SmokeMachine | m: my @a = ^5; my @b = @a; dd @b[0] | 20:27 | |
| evalable6 | Int @b = 0 | ||
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| Geth | mu: tmtvl++ created pull request #36: Add my contribution for #35 |
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| mu: d7aa1d1297 | (Tim Van den Langenbergh)++ | misc/perl6advent-2018/schedule Add my contribution for #35 |
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| mu: cbb7f528b5 | (Tim Van den Langenbergh)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | misc/perl6advent-2018/schedule Merge pull request #36 from tmtvl/call-for-contributions-2018-35 Add my contribution for #35 |
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| Geth | Blin: ba68e32a10 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | bin/blin.p6 Fix output path (oops) |
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