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Xliff SmokeMachine: Looks good, here. I haven't given it complete diff lookover, though. 00:06
SmokeMachine Xliff: thanks!
Xliff SmokeMachine: For Red::AST:: descendants, what does the args method need to return? 00:09
SmokeMachine a list of every "important" argument of that node
Xliff So it can be empty? 00:10
Should it return an empty list, or can it return Nil? 00:11
Kaiepi what would be a good name for a module that lets you make enums dynamically at runtime? 00:16
Enum::Dynamic? Type::Enum::Dynamic? 00:17
SmokeMachine Xliff: yes... empty list 00:18
Xliff: a DropTable would return the table name... 00:19
ugexe A few weeks ago a --contained flag was added to zef that will install all dependencies (even installed ones) such that you can do `zef install . --deps-only --contained --install-to=local`. It is still beta as i've not wired up support for installing e.g. Test, NativeCall (which are just skipped). 00:30
timotimo gfldex: use the return value of the whenever statement 01:03
SmokeMachine tbrowder: just to let you know, now `.^load` also works with uniques... 01:34
tbrowder ok, great! 01:36
lucs How do I permanently interpolate the value of a variable into a regex? This for example fails the second match attempt, the regex having changed; 02:46
m: my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /$s/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx;
camelia ｢S｣
Nil
Xliff m: my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /<$s>/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx; 02:49
camelia ｢S｣
Nil
Xliff m: my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /"$s"/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx; 02:49
camelia ｢S｣
Nil
lucs I tried a bunch of those variations, unsuccessfully :(
timotimo you'll have to build a closure that keeps the value around for you 02:50
lucs I'm wondering it it'll take an eval...
timotimo or use eval to put it in
lucs Okidoke
Xliff m: my ($s, $rx); { $s = 'S'; $rx = /"$s"/; }; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx; 02:51
camelia ｢S｣
Nil
Xliff m: my ($s, $rx); { my $s = 'S'; $rx = /"$s"/; }; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx;
camelia ｢S｣
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Xliff ^^
lucs That should do I think. 02:52
Thanks
Xliff m: my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /<{$s}>/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx; 02:55
camelia ｢S｣
Nil
Xliff Note that the <> form SHOULD be an implicit EVAL, according to the docs. 02:56
docs.perl6.org/syntax/%20Regex%20Interpolation
m: my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /<{$s.Str}>/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx;
camelia ｢S｣
Nil
Xliff m: my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /$($s)>/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx; 02:57
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Unable to parse regex; couldn't find final '/'
at <tmp>:1
------> 3my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /$($s)7⏏5>/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S'
expecting any of:
infix stopper
…
Xliff m: my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /$($s)/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx;
camelia ｢S｣
Nil
lucs I made the exact same typo when I tried that one! :) 02:58
Xliff lucs: :) 02:58
Geth doc: 461382f554 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Programs/03-environment-variables.pod6
Revises env variables page
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doc: 24d7ce0114 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/5to6-nutshell.pod6
Revision, grammar and reflow
antoniogamiz good morning :D 09:41
moritz: thanks for the answer yestarday, I'll take a look at Math::RungeKutta to see if it can derive 09:42
andrzejku araraloren, hey :) 09:43
antoniogamiz mmm it looks like it doesnt derive :( 09:45
antoniogamiz .tell moritz with Math::Model can I calculate derivatives? 09:58
yoleaux antoniogamiz: I'll pass your message to moritz.
araraloren andrzejku hey 10:04
Geth doc: 72dad49691 | (JJ Merelo)++ | 2 files
Adds Collation closes #2644
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moritz .tell antoniogamiz no, Math::Model requires you to calculate some values that are interpreted as derivatives, and Math::Model integrates those values for you 10:31
yoleaux moritz: I'll pass your message to antoniogamiz.
09:58Z <antoniogamiz> moritz: with Math::Model can I calculate derivatives?
antoniogamiz moritz: mmmm, then there is no way to calculate derivatives? :( 10:45
yoleaux 10:31Z <moritz> antoniogamiz: no, Math::Model requires you to calculate some values that are interpreted as derivatives, and Math::Model integrates those values for you
moritz antoniogamiz: if you have a function f, a derivative is just f($x + $delta) - f($x - $delta) / (2 * $delta) 10:50
antoniogamiz: don't need a module for that
(for small $delta, obviously)
antoniogamiz moritz: ah okey, I knew that but I thought that it wasnt a good practica to do it like that 10:54
thanks for the help :)
moritz antoniogamiz: if there's more sophistication involved, feel free to create a module for it :D 11:34
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! List-UtilsBy (0.0.3) by 03ELIZABETH 11:44
antoniogamiz someone can explain me what does this code :&assemble = -> *% { Nil }? 11:58
multi sub visit($root, :&pre, :&post, :&assemble = -> *% { Nil }) {} 11:59
well the part that I dont understant is -> *% {Nil}
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! List-UtilsBy (0.0.4) by 03ELIZABETH
hahainternet that's a 'pointy block' that returns Nil
i assume that the *% signature is so that it takes only named arguments, but i'm not sure why 12:00
would have to be seen in context i assume
antoniogamiz that function is declared in Pod::To::HTML module 12:01
hahainternet well presumably whenever else 'assemble' is called it's given named arguments, and so this is just a default that guarantees you can always call it
antoniogamiz ok, thanks for the help :) 12:08
Geth doc/Match-Int-method: cd16648d0e | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Match.pod6
Document Int method on Match
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doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #2676:
Document Int method on Match		 12:29
sena_kun m: (* ~ 'a').cando(\(1)).say; 12:33
camelia ( no output )
sena_kun m: (* ~ 'a').cando(\('z')).say
camelia ( no output )
sena_kun this doesn't match the docs too much. 12:34
by the docs, it should return a list of candidates, but in repl it prints `{ ... }` and here it prints nothing. 12:35
lucasb m: my &c = (* + 2).say; c(3) 12:40
camelia 5
lucasb maybe you are WhateverCode'ing everything
lucasb m: my &c = (* ~ 'a'); &c.cando(\('z')).say 12:41
camelia ({ ... })
sena_kun hmm
also, we have in 6.d changelog: 12:42
aaaaah
never mind
Geth doc/clarify-gcd-zero: 5c0c06252d | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/operators.pod6
Clarify gcd with zero results
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doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #2677:
Clarify gcd with zero results		 12:46
Geth doc/more-uniprops-explanations: 35ea65f74b | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Cool.pod6
Extend uniprop(s) explanation
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doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #2678:
Extend uniprop(s) explanation		 12:57
Geth doc: 8da40fb12e | Altai-man++ | 2 files
Update comb return type from List to Seq

We had it in a different way from 2016.11 to 2018.02, but in 6.d it is determined to be this way and Rakudo supports it from 2019.03.		 13:06
Xliff moritz: \o 13:16
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! List-SomeUtils (0.0.5) by 03ELIZABETH
New module released to CPAN! List-MoreUtils (0.0.5) by 03ELIZABETH
Xliff m: my ($s, $rx); { my $s = 'S'; $rx = /"$s"/; }; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx;
camelia ｢S｣
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Xliff Is there a way to do that without the closure?
timotimo m: say "ssssssSsssSsSssSss".comb("S") 13:18
camelia (S S S S)
AlexDaniel kawaii: fyi I'm going to cut 2019.03.1 real quick according to this discussion: github.com/rakudo/star/issues/124#...-473601759 13:23
kawaii: ah btw, regarding the changelog. There's this page where devs can quickly log their changes: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/ChangeLog-Draft 13:25
lizmat weekly: Something about IR optimization - Bart Wiegmans 13:26
notable6 lizmat, Noted!
lizmat weekly: brrt-to-the-future.blogspot.com/20...ation.html
notable6 lizmat, Noted!
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! List-AllUtils (0.0.4) by 03ELIZABETH 13:31
New module released to CPAN! List-Util (0.0.7) by 03ELIZABETH
andrew eeeey 13:41
andrew whats up bois 13:45
lizmat wood? 13:48
andrew no 13:48
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! P5opendir (0.0.4) by 03ELIZABETH
andrew camelia is up
i almost read that as cspan 13:49
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! pack6 (0.2) by 03ALOREN 14:02
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! DirHandle (0.0.2) by 03ELIZABETH 14:33
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! P5caller (0.0.6) by 03ELIZABETH 14:54
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! P5getgrnam (0.0.6) by 03ELIZABETH 15:50
Geth doc: 37d899c796 | cfa++ | 2 files
Spelling.
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Xliff What would be the best way to install a set of pre-build set of Perl6 modules? 16:04
sena_kun a dummy module with list of requirements? 16:05
a script that does `zef install foo1 foo2 foo3`?
Xliff sena_kun: Well, GtkPlus takes about an hour to compile on a normal laptop. 16:09
I want to be able to distribute binaries so end users don't have to go through all that.
sena_kun ah, that's the different thing. 16:10
Xliff So using zef, as it currently is, will NOT work.
Xliff Well... it will... but folks will have to go through the pre-compile phase. And currently zef doesn't have a way to make that wait any less painful. 16:10
Mainly, zef doesn't have periodic output to let end-users know that it is still working on the install.
If there were a way for perl6 to say "Hey I'm precompiling this module", it wouldn't be so bad. 16:11
sena_kun I think the reliable thing you can do is to create a zef issue. 16:13
Xliff Oh, I plan to. I do think this is more a perl6 issue, though.
Not zef.
sena_kun it'll be more or less persistent for more experienced folk to think about the issue. 16:14
Xliff It could be limited to zef, but I think perl6 still needs to support something under-the-hood for zef to use.
sena_kun well, it is to raise the discussion. :)
Xliff And trust me... issues tend to get ignored if not focused enough. I'd rather start the discussion here so I can find that focus and THEN raise the issue.
I've had this happen too many times before. 16:15
sena_kun yes, that happens too, unfortunately.
sena_kun and we likely can do nothing with compilation time 16:15
as I suspect
Xliff No. Compilation times actually not bad. 16:16
timotimo Xliff: you can just "say" inside a BEGIN block to show to the user that precomp is happening 16:17
Xliff timotimo: Ooh! Thanks!
sena_kun: GtkPlus is some 479 modules.
Plus scripts and example files. 16:18
sena_kun that's a lot.
Xliff :)
leont Is that GIR based or not?
Xliff leont: It's NativeCall, so I guess that depends on the installed libs. 16:19
But no, I just worked off of the header files. If there is something GIR specific that this might benefit from, can you post a link?
Xliff leont: .pm files were started from .h files 16:20
leont gi.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
GIR is basically an XML format describing the interfaces, so that the binding can be fully generated from that. 16:21
Xliff Ah. No.
leont Some really ought to write a MetaObject that fully understands GIR, and then magically lots of GObject based libraries (including GTK AFAIK) become instantly available.
Xliff I wrote script to start the process. I had to then hand adjust everything.
Geth doc/more-uniprops-explanations: 44b3ad917a | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Cool.pod6
Fix grammar
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Xliff leont: Based on my experience from GTK, you can get 75% from something like that. It then needs to be hand-refined to be good Perl6 code.
But really, the 75% is still usable.
leont It's a high-cost high-reward kind of endeavour though.
Xliff I know. I'm thinking about doing it. :D 16:23
Geth doc/Match-Int-method: fdb9477727 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Match.pod6
Make examples clearer, fix indentation

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Xliff leont: GLib itself is GIR, correct? 16:24
leont AFAIK GLib is the layer underneath GObject/GIR 16:25
Xliff Ah. Looks like there are files for GLib. 16:26
gir1.2-glib-2.0:amd64
jmerelo squashable6: status
yoleaux 12 Mar 2019 13:50Z <lizmat> jmerelo: s/Stefaner/Lenz/
13 Mar 2019 12:21Z <tbrowder> jmerelo: have you seen any student interest in gsoc for p6?
14 Mar 2019 16:01Z <AlexDaniel> jmerelo: I like the idea a lot, and I can totally do something like this… but maybe next year. I'm too busy working on my thesis
squashable6 jmerelo, Next SQUASHathon in 18 days and ≈19 hours (2019-04-06 UTC-14⌁UTC+12). See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day
jmerelo .tell tbrowder there are a couple here in Granada (antoniogamiz is one, you might have seen it around) and another one who contacted via email. Not a whole lot, unfortunately 16:28
yoleaux jmerelo: I'll pass your message to tbrowder.
jmerelo .tell lizmat so right
yoleaux jmerelo: I'll pass your message to lizmat.
Geth doc/clarify-gcd-zero: 454bcfdd50 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/operators.pod6
Improve wording

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Xliff leont: Hmm... I can see the .typelib files, but those don't do me a bit of good. I need a way to go back to the original .gir 16:33
ugexe Xliff: zef does not precompile anything. zef passes the distribution to CUR.install(), at which point a perl6 implementation may precompile so that they may be installed as well 16:35
Xliff ugexe: That's what I thought.
Ah, if only there were a way to inject a BEGIN block into every piece of code would run. 16:37
ugexe im not sure injecting code is the best idea 16:39
ugexe just make your install instructions: `RAKUDO_MODULE_DEBUG=1 zef install ...` :P 16:40
Xliff Heh. Thanks, ugexe 16:52
ugexe actually
RAKUDO_LOG_PRECOMP=1
which wont output all the stuff from zef itself getting loaded
github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/ffe8...n.pm6#L280 16:53
Xliff Oh. Even better. Thanks! 16:54
jmerelo This is just a reminder that the Perls are going to participate this year in Google Summer of Code, and we need to spread the word to get good candidates perl-gsoc-2019.github.io/ideas/ 16:56
If you got eligible friends, tell them. If you can make a presentation in a local user group or university, do it. If you're yourself eligible, check out the ideas and prepare a good project!
SmokeMachine tbrowder: are you there? 17:21
m: multi MAIN(1, :$debug) {...} 17:22
camelia Usage:
<tmp> [--debug=<Any>] 1
SmokeMachine m: multi MAIN(1, Bool :$debug) {...}
camelia Usage:
<tmp> [--debug] 1
SmokeMachine tbrowder: 👆 17:25
jmerelo SmokeMachine: what's the probley? 17:28
tbrowder thnx, so some duplication there, but a bit less than my method for simple xtra args.
yoleaux 16:28Z <jmerelo> tbrowder: there are a couple here in Granada (antoniogamiz is one, you might have seen it around) and another one who contacted via email. Not a whole lot, unfortunately
tbrowder ok, not surprising given so much hype about python and bad press about perl 17:29
jmerelo tbrowder: I wouldn't blame anyone else... We really need to get the word out. 17:30
SmokeMachine tbrowder: what duplication? 17:31
tbrowder i know, marketing is tough, that’s the way to get rich: be a successful marketeer
SmokeMachine jmerelo: no problem...
tbrowder duplication in that the debug arg has to go in each multi main does it not? 17:32
jmerelo tbrowder: still, we need to gather a good amount of candidates. I'll do a presentation here at the university soonish, but we need to repeat that in some other places 17:34
jmerelo .tell moritz geth seems to be down. 17:36
yoleaux jmerelo: I'll pass your message to moritz.
AlexDaniel not really but let's restart it
jmerelo AlexDaniel: it's not sending latest changes in perl6/doc, at least... 17:36
AlexDaniel I no 17:37
Geth doc: cd16648d0e | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Match.pod6
Document Int method on Match
doc: fdb9477727 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Match.pod6
Make examples clearer, fix indentation

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doc: 83bf350718 | cfa++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Match.pod6
Merge pull request #2676 from perl6/Match-Int-method

Document Int method on Match
doc: 5c0c06252d | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/operators.pod6
Clarify gcd with zero results
doc: 454bcfdd50 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/operators.pod6
Improve wording

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tbrowder i have sent emails to two colleges in the area and got response from one cs department head. he was not aware of gsoc (surprise to me) and assured me he would spread the word. i cleverly mention the potential for cs students who investigated p6
doc: 65dedeed07 | cfa++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/operators.pod6
Merge pull request #2677 from perl6/clarify-gcd-zero

Clarify gcd with zero results
doc: cd16648d0e | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Match.pod6
Document Int method on Match
doc: fdb9477727 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Match.pod6
Make examples clearer, fix indentation

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doc: 83bf350718 | cfa++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Match.pod6
Merge pull request #2676 from perl6/Match-Int-method

Document Int method on Match
jmerelo tbrowder: great!
jmerelo AlexDaniel: what's happened?
doc: 5c0c06252d | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/operators.pod6
Clarify gcd with zero results
doc: 454bcfdd50 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/operators.pod6
Improve wording

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jmerelo AlexDaniel: overload?
Geth doc: 65dedeed07 | cfa++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/operators.pod6
Merge pull request #2677 from perl6/clarify-gcd-zero

Clarify gcd with zero results
doc: 35ea65f74b | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Cool.pod6
Extend uniprop(s) explanation
AlexDaniel OK I think it is repeating the same thing over and over xD
doc: 44b3ad917a | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Cool.pod6
Fix grammar
tbrowder the stipend was a real draw, too
Geth doc: e482247f61 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Cool.pod6
Merge pull request #2678 from perl6/more-uniprops-explanations

Extend uniprop(s) explanation
AlexDaniel my bad, sorry for bot spam
AlexDaniel actually, maybe not
jmerelo: well, you know, bots
jmerelo: they like to misbehave
by the way I just released 2019.03.1 17:40
so that's my 20th rakudo release 🥳🎂🎉 17:41
tbrowder can anyone recommend a good, modern book on db, especially one that uses latest sql syntax, plus examples in a current, real world open source rdbms (preferably postgresql and sqlite)? 17:42
El_Che new release? 17:43
AlexDaniel El_Che: yes but primarily for windows users 17:44
SmokeMachine tbrowder: you can do something like:
tbrowder: www.irccloud.com/pastebin/QBfp29MQ/
El_Che is there a point in new Linux packages? Maybe to not confuse users?
ugexe only for ones that are missing uname 17:45
El_Che I must say I am not a fan (anymore?) of the rakudo release page
it's confusing as hell, and I know of rakudo
AlexDaniel El_Che: I was also looking at the version numbers today and I was like “what?” 17:46
so 2019.03 is also “#130” and why do we even have that
but point releases don't increment that, and that kinda makes sense but uhhhh… 17:47
El_Che so only rakudo bump, no nqp bump
AlexDaniel ye
tbrowder SmokeMachine: with all due respect, that is much uglier code than mine imo, although maybe a bit shorter. but, it’s your module and i will reluctantly use it if you wish me to. 17:48
SmokeMachine tbrowder: you can do way you want... 17:49
tbrowder: but im curious... why do you think its uglier? 17:50
tbrowder to change the subject a bit, i am changing my models to use the serial id on Person...
El_Che AlexDaniel: I'll release linux packages in order not to confuse users
AlexDaniel cool 17:51
tbrowder well, just my style i’ve used for years clashes with ALLCAPS sub names, and my not being a touch typist and all. mainly stiff muscle memory and stubbornness :-)) 17:52
tbrowder but wanting to be a team 17:53
player i will do as you suggest—your module i think already is a good example of heavy-duty p6 programming and good practices and i don’t want to detract from that. 17:56
SmokeMachine tbrowder: MAIN is allcaps in this case to show its not a common sub... its a perl6 special sub... 17:57
tbrowder: :)
tbrowder i know, i’ve wrestled with it before, and even contributed an example to the docs, but it still doesn’t fit naturally to me. i really like the given/when construct for option handling. 18:00
easy to code and modify for personal scripts.
ugexe since you can have multiple options you would have to use lots of `continue;` inside your `when { ... }` ala `given $foo { when any(1..10) { say "between one and ten" proceede; }; when any(5..10) { say "between give and ten" }; }` 18:10
switch do not compose
s/continue/proceede/ 18:13
Xliff ugexe: "proceede" or "proceed"? 18:21
tbrowder yes, much messier for more complex arg handling, operative word is “simple” arg handling. 18:22
ugexe well, i wouldnt consider multiple options/flags as simple. thats a pretty basic feature imo 18:41
i would consider^
if your script has but one flag or one option, then sure. but thats about the only case i can think of. 18:42
one you have two options that are not exclusive then the switch statement gets in the way
uzl .tell jjmerelo So I read over the Perl 6 project ideas for GSoC and I figured I might not be up for any of the tasks. I was particularly interested in the projects related with the ecosystem and documentation. 18:43
yoleaux uzl: I'll pass your message to jjmerelo.
uzl .tell jjmerelo If any, what do you think might be a good roadmap to prepare for one of these projects? I'm currently taking my first C++ based data structures class in college and also looking for an internship.
yoleaux uzl: I'll pass your message to jjmerelo.
jmerelo uzl: I'm around here.
uzl jmerelo: Oh... didn't notice ;-)
jmerelo uzl: just check them out, and if you can think of anything above and beyond what's there, feel free, comment it, tell us about it here... 18:44
uzl: they're just ideas; students should submit their own project proposals based on them, or something completely new altogether.
uzl: I'm obviously very interested in anything related to documentation, and there's a lot to do there... 18:45
uzl I'm also interested in the documentation since it's the entry point for any proglang. 18:47
jmerelo uzl: but that's not covered by GSoC. However, there's also a "season for documentation" for which we intend to apply later on...
uzl jmerelo: One of the projects is somewhat with the docs but it's about the tool revamping for the docs. BTW, wasn't someone working on that? Was is @finalyst? Not sure if they hangout on #perl6. 18:50
Do apply it for that one ;-). 18:51
sena_kun uzl, it is about tooling. But, I think, if you can help it out with enough time&funds at hands, I think, this will be awesome.
uzl++ 18:52
jmerelo uzl: finanalyst will be one of the mentors for that project.
uzl jmerelo: Oh, I see. Got his handle wrong. 18:54
jmerelo uzl: he's around here from time to time. 18:55
uzl jmerelo: I'll probably catch him around here. I see tbrowder and you are also possible mentors. Is a single mentor assigned to a candidate? Or can there be more than one per project? 19:01
moritz back in the days, there used to be a primary mentor, and optionally a backup mentor 19:16
yoleaux 17:36Z <jmerelo> moritz: geth seems to be down.
moritz jmerelo: I know nothing about geth, except that it's hosted on hack. hack is up. 19:17
jmerelo .tell uzl there are several mentors involved usually, just in case someone is busy for some stretch of time. Summer is long... 19:26
yoleaux jmerelo: I'll pass your message to uzl.
jmerelo moritz: thanks. Finally AlexDaniel fired it up again.
.tell uzl we'll definitely do that.
yoleaux jmerelo: I'll pass your message to uzl.
tbrowder SmokeMachine: MAIN use incorporated, i admit it looks pretty good, and quite a bit shorter! 19:29
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! P5getnetbyname (0.0.4) by 03ELIZABETH 20:14
SmokeMachine tbrowder: good to know! :) 20:28
tbrowder i can do MAIN tweaks later 20:29
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! P5getprotobyname (0.0.3) by 03ELIZABETH 20:31
SmokeMachine tbrowder: now its possible to `.^create-table: :if-exist` 20:32
tbrowder or should that be if-not-exists 20:34
masak one thing I had never realized until yesterday: `is export` wants the declarator to be `our`, not `my` (because we're exporting package-level stuff). but subs are `my` implicitly, so in essence exporting a sub makes it package-scoped behind the scenes. 20:35
SmokeMachine tbrowder: sure! I think Im a little crazy...
tbrowder welcome to the club! 20:36
SmokeMachine fixed 20:39
`.^create-table: :if-not-exist` 20:43
lizmat m: sub a is export { }; dd OUR::.keys # masak: exporting does *not* make subs "our" 20:47
yoleaux 16:28Z <jmerelo> lizmat: so right
camelia ().Seq
lizmat m: our sub a is export { }; dd OUR::.keys 20:48
camelia ("\&a",).Seq
tbrowder SmokeMachine: the "if-not-exist" is not working for me. also, i think the sql is "not exists" plural exists 20:54
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! P5getpwnam (0.0.5) by 03ELIZABETH 21:00
SmokeMachine tbrowder: not working? what's happening? 21:06
i wrote it wrong here... 21:07
tbrowder: www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xTOVoAFl/ 21:08
SmokeMachine tbrowder: please, let me know when you think its ok to merge it... 21:20
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! P5getservbyname (0.0.4) by 03ELIZABETH 21:31
tbrowder SmokeMachine: i pulled from upstream master, then i modified load-db.p6 to remove the CATCH block and add :if-not-exist to the create-table calls. i removed the sqlite db and ran load-dp.p6 twice. the second time the code threw an error saying the table exists. 21:46
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! P5localtime (0.0.6) by 03ELIZABETH
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! Memoize (0.0.4) by 03ELIZABETH 22:02
New module released to CPAN! P5times (0.0.6) by 03ELIZABETH
tbrowder SmokeMachine: may be a false alarm...let me test again... 22:39
SmokeMachine: your fix works fine! i forgot to change lib location to use the fork's copy of Red 22:44
lizmat weekly: perl6.eu/gibberish.html 22:49
notable6 lizmat, Noted!
lizmat # Gibberish by Perl 6
cpan-p6 New module released to CPAN! P5built-ins (0.0.22) by 03ELIZABETH 22:54
tbrowder lizmat: have you seen my new pics? 23:41
tbrowder .tell SmokeMachine i'm happy with my PR with load-db.p6 and am now working on the next stage: query-db.p6 23:55
yoleaux tbrowder: I'll pass your message to SmokeMachine.

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