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irced jnthn: instead of Proc::Async.new I am pushing promises unto an array where each promise calls a subroutine that itself calls run(..) and the method returns the results of the process. 00:01
jnthn: then I tried await Promise.allof(@promises)
jnthn: but I see 0 cpu on the processes, though they show they are all launched 00:02
jnthn: and slowly i get the promise results one by one
jnthn: as if i had done it in order in the first place
jnthn: to make it a little clearer, I am invoking md5sum via run and passing it a long list of absolute paths then capturing the output of md5sum 00:03
jnthn: which i confirm is working as expected when called directly and attempting to parallelize by calling the method to run it on several different lists of files. 00:04
happy fourth btw
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irced i am rewriting now to see if Proc::Async.new will work better in this case, but i prefer to parallelizing by calls to a subroutine with of course different arguments 00:06
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jnthn Yeah, I'd use Proc::Async for that, it's scale much better. 00:09
*it'll 00:10
irced jnthn: cool, thanks.
jnthn Sleep time for me o/
irced jnthn: cool, lates.
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Kaiepi i'm considering moving to comma from vim for perl 6 dev since vim's perl6 plugins are really slow on my machine 00:21
does comma have a vim mode?
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irced hmm, perhaps I was mistaken about the cpu usage part as I was no seeing the disk read total changes indicating the work being done in parallel :-p 00:41
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Falcon678 Hello guys! I am considering using P6 as a backend for a web app, but I wanted to know if P6 is fast enough yet, or if I should reconsider this in a few months/years? Thanks! :) 01:44
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timotimo Falcon678: performance of p6 code can go from bad to great with tiny changes i often find 01:47
this here irc channel is pretty good at finding those tiny changes
perl6's outstanding support for parallel and asynchronous stuff can help make performance issues not as dramatic as for example python would 01:48
also, many times when people have come to the channel for help with a performance issue, it led to a rakudo patch that improved something by anywhere between 2x and 200x performance-wise 01:50
that's always fun
anyway, i've gotta go to bed :)
irced gasps.
timotimo doc.perl6.org/language/performance - there's a few words on performance-related stuff 01:51
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Falcon678 Thank you very much timotimo! :) 01:54
I will check that
Have a good night!
timotimo for web app backend stuff, Cro would surely be a decent choice (it's built with asynchronous I/O at its center) 01:57
o/
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Falcon678 Cro seems nice, yes, thanks! I will try to write a simple app with Cro and I will see how fast it is :) 02:02
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jmerelo squashable6: status 05:48
squashable6 jmerelo, 🍕🍕 SQUASHathon is in progress! The end of the event in 2 days and ≈8 hours. See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day
jmerelo Almost there!
releasable6: status
releasable6 jmerelo, Next release will happen when it's ready. R6 is down. At least 1 blocker. 492 out of 672 commits logged
jmerelo, Details: gist.github.com/d553c65cb1567a398a...6f800629e3
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Geth doc: 996dd01425 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/control.pod6
Restores eliminated pages

This kinda closes #2881, but not really, since there were other pages the ones that were actually missing due to change in indexing. Please reopen if you must		 06:54
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/control
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Kaiepi squashable6, status 07:04
squashable6 Kaiepi, 🍕🍕 SQUASHathon is in progress! The end of the event in 2 days and ≈6 hours. See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day
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jmerelo But I'm not sure the hook is set 07:08
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Kaiepi no worries, i'm busy with other stuff atm 07:10
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lizmat_ weekly: perl6.eu/prime-vigenere.html 08:15
notable6 lizmat_, Noted!
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tyil jmerelo: o/ 08:45
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jmerelo tyil: hey! 08:48
tyil I poked you in pm
jmerelo Ah, OK
tyil about the mentor summit :) 08:49
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masak g'day, #perl6 08:50
Kaiepi o/ 08:51
not sure how much of the squashathon i'll be able to do since my hs math is pretty rusty but i'll give it a shot 08:54
masak did someone say math? 08:56
:)
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jmerelo squashable6: status 08:58
squashable6 jmerelo, 🍕🍕 SQUASHathon is in progress! The end of the event in 2 days and ≈5 hours. See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day
jmerelo masak: it's about that ^^^ Although hooks are not set up, that's the topic: Math::Sequences 08:59
Kaiepi sequences...
i remember that from calc but it was taught pretty badly
tyil I've notified one of my math-loving friends, even though he's currently on holidays 09:00
worth a shot either way :D
Kaiepi yeah 09:02
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masak I'm math-loving too, and ready to assist with explanations, at least now and then during the day :) 09:12
(and I have a soft spot for oeis) 09:13
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daxim jmerelo, when does 996dd01 go live? 10:11
jmerelo daxim: it should be live now. I just rsynced 10:12
daxim /with is still 404 10:13
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jmerelo daxim: riiight... I'm not sure that was a thing before, as I commented in the issue 10:13
daxim: not even /syntax/with 10:14
daxim well, it's now. otherwise ELI5 why /grep /andthen /Promise do something useful, and /with does not
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jmerelo daxim: with is syntax, the rest are statements. Well, andthen, I don't know 10:15
jnthn andthen is an infix operator 10:16
jmerelo jnthn: right
jnthn (I've no idea what that means for the URL structure, though. I've little clue about that. :))
antoniogamiz jnthn: for now :D 10:17
yoleaux 4 Jul 2019 23:22Z <tbrowder> antoniogamiz: you're welcome, but you've done the hard part!
jmerelo jnthn: well, no one knows actually how the URL structure works. We're trying do find out.
jnthn: but basically syntax things (from /language pages) do not get their own disambiguation page
antoniogamiz I hope to present you some aclarations about the system here => github.com/antoniogamiz/Perl6-Documentable/wiki 10:18
jmerelo daxim: and disambiguation pages like the ones you mention, well, they are not documented anywhere, and cause confusion just like this one. They also take a loooong time to build.
daxim is this supposed to dissuade me from using them? 10:19
jmerelo daxim: not really. They are going to be there for the foreseeable future. 10:20
daxim: but the thing is that we're moving to a new document processing application, and that might include things like deprecation warnings. And that might be the first feature to do that. 10:21
daxim: it's not specced, it's not documented, it's not used but for a few people, it causes confusion, it takes a long time off the build process ⇒ clear candidate for deprecation.
daxim: here's the issue github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2499# We'll be grateful to hear any opinion 10:22
daxim that's too much text, I'm not going to read that. here's your user speaking: don't remove stuff I'm using, ignore me at your peril. I don't care about build time, that's the computer's work. computers are our willing slaves and don't complain. 10:25
jmerelo daxim: you can't be using something that does not exist, like the /with link (I don't think it's ever existed, also)
daxim you're unreasonable right now 10:26
jmerelo daxim: also, not removing but deprecating it, if we eventually decide to go that way.
daxim: why do you think I'm being unreasonable? 10:27
daxim I'm out of this conversation. you're old enough to put yourself into my shoes and reflect internally 10:28
jmerelo daxim: (also: undocumented, unspecced features are not really expected to work for ever)
daxim: what I would like you is to get into my shoes. There are lots of issues with the documentation, including the fact that it takes almost 20 minutes to build in a reasonably powered machine.
daxim: its behavior is a continuous source of surprises, due to the fact that it works how it works, but it's very difficult to know why it does. 10:29
daxim: case in point: the /with link. It's impossible to know if it was removed, or it simply never existed. If it was removed, it's impossible to know why, because how URL generation work is an arcane topic reserved to those willing to read 1000 lines of code. 10:30
daxim: we need to move to a specced, tested and, if possible, fast way of generating the documentation.
daxim: we're doing to with the help of issues in the doc repository, open to feedback and the opinions of everyone. And of course, we'll try to make everyone happy. 10:31
daxim: but there are degrees of happiness, and different stakeholders being happy or unhappy for different reasons. We need to hear from everyone, which is why the issues are open. 10:32
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AlexDaniel . 11:08
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AlexDaniel jmerelo: oops very sorry 11:08
holy shit someone made a huge PR 11:09
jmerelo AlexDaniel: right
AlexDaniel I'll set the hook when squashable comes back up
I think redelivering the payload is all that's needed, so no prob it'll be in the log
jmerelo OK 11:10
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AlexDaniel also it's a bit earlier than I anticipated? :) 11:11
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jmerelo AlexDaniel: we extended it a bit to get more people from more continents in :-) 11:12
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AlexDaniel Actually, I don't have admin privs for that repo 11:12
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AlexDaniel ah, you wouldn't be able to redeliver stuff for a hook that wasn't set up at that point 11:16
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antoniogamiz If someone can help me with this => gist.github.com/antoniogamiz/b13af...abf75e2c48 11:52
I do not have any clue why it freezes 11:53
AlexDaniel moritz: this repo is stuck github.com/moritz/perl6-all-modules 11:55
rba: fwiw another resource we kinda sorta depend on (at least the bots do) ↑
antoniogamiz: so the gist method of the typegraph class loops infinitely 11:59
e: use lib ‘sandbox/Perl6-TypeGraph’; use Perl6::TypeGraph; my $tg = Perl6::TypeGraph.new-from-file; say $tg.Str;
evalable6 Perl6::TypeGraph<94243787927072>
AlexDaniel Str is fine
e: use lib ‘sandbox/Perl6-TypeGraph’; use Perl6::TypeGraph; my $tg = Perl6::TypeGraph.new-from-file; say $tg.gist; 12:00
gist is not
evalable6 (signal SIGHUP) «timed out after 10 seconds»
antoniogamiz oh :o
weird
timotimo antoniogamiz: i'm not sure what exactly the TypeGraph module does, but if you're crawling all types you may infinitely loop from enum types 12:03
yoleaux 06:54Z <Kaiepi> timotimo: can we talk about whether or not i need to rebootstrap nqp for my nativecall wide string support pullreq again? i ran into an issue that may require it
10:55Z <Kaiepi> timotimo: never mind, i didn't end up needing to rebootstrap after all
antoniogamiz timotimo: yep, I think that's happening
timotimo m: say True::.keys
camelia (True False)
antoniogamiz AlexDaniel: thanks a lot for your help!
timotimo m: say True::<True>::.keys
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Confused
at <tmp>:1
------> 3say True::<True>:7⏏5:.keys
expecting any of:
colon pair
timotimo m: say True::("True")::.keys 12:04
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Combination of indirect name lookup and call not supported
at <tmp>:1
------> 3say True::("True")::7⏏5.keys
expecting any of:
argument list
timotimo m: say True.WHO<True>.WHO<True>
camelia True
timotimo m: say True.WHO<True>.WHO<True>.WHO<True>.WHO<True>
camelia True
timotimo ^- it's easy for a naive tool to run into this trap
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antoniogamiz omg I have lost 1h debugging a program 12:11
the problem was changing two lines of order 12:12
jmerelo antoniogamiz: I thought you were a person of order. Order is important. 12:13
antoniogamiz jmerelo: I have learned that today haha
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moritz the Order of Chaos :D 13:45
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masak sounds Discordian 14:07
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moritz we have a discord bridge, so not so far off :D 14:31
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AlexDaniel squashable6: status 15:33
squashable6 AlexDaniel, 🍕🍕 SQUASHathon is in progress! The end of the event in 1 day and ≈22 hours. See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day
AlexDaniel most of the easy sequences already seem to be implemented :)
unless I'm blind
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Kaiepi damn, comma's too unstable for me to run 15:56
jnthn Kaiepi: Details? 15:59
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Kaiepi oh, nvm 16:01
# There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to continue.
forgot to run ulimit
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Geth doc/master: 4 commits pushed by (JJ Merelo)++ 16:12
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tobs Do we have `uniq -c` built in? I want to turn (1,2,2,2,3,3,4) into (1 => 1, 2 => 3, 3 => 2, 4 => 1). Run-length encoding if you want. 16:20
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tobs I feel like the proper combination of List methods escapes me while staring at the docs. 16:20
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tobs Ah! .Bag will do 16:23
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TimToady loses order, if you really want RLE 16:23
tobs in this case, at least, because same numbers are always consecutive
TimToady: exactly 16:24
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xinming_ It's strange that my computer connect-disconnects so frequent. :-( 17:49
er2 p6: my (\a, \b) = 3,4; say a; say b; say \a-\b 17:50
camelia 3
4
0
er2 what's going on with this?
sena_kun \a and \b are not `a` and `b`, they are captures 17:51
timotimo \a is a capture, it has one element, so it numifies to 1
timotimo high-fives sena_kun
sena_kun :)
er2 k, so how would I do `a-b` ? 17:52
sena_kun just a - b 17:53
m: my (\a, \b) = 3,4; say a; say b; say a-b
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Undeclared routine:
a-b used at line 1
sena_kun m: my (\a, \b) = 3,4; say a; say b; say a - b
camelia 3
4
-1
sena_kun ^
timotimo m: my (\a, \b) = 3,4; say a; say b; say a\-b
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Confused
at <tmp>:1
------> 3my (\a, \b) = 3,4; say a; say b; say a\7⏏5-b
expecting any of:
postfix
timotimo mhm mhm 17:54
m: my (\a, \b) = 3,4; say a; say b; say (a)-(b)
camelia 3
4
-1
er2 that'll do, thanks
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Kaiepi when i have the time i'm gonna take a look at writing IO::PTY 18:42
Net::Telnet needs PTY support but i was advised by #posix that i should write the module and use it as a dependency
it's on the most wanted modules list so... 18:43
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rfold Hmm interesting, it seems the file names in the stack trace are off. 19:10
Let's see if I can make an example that reproduces it.
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AlexDaniel .tell lizmat github.com/ajs/perl6-Math-Sequences/issues/39 19:25
yoleaux AlexDaniel: I'll pass your message to lizmat.
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lizmat weekly: perlweeklychallenge.org/blog/meet-...mpion-013/ 20:53
yoleaux 19:25Z <AlexDaniel> lizmat: github.com/ajs/perl6-Math-Sequences/issues/39
notable6 lizmat, Noted!
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lizmat is sad she cannot contribute more to the Squashathon this time 20:58
will be travelling most of tomorrow
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Kaiepi i can't work out any of the sequences for the squashathon now that all the easy ones have been done... 21:24
the roic pages are over my head 21:25
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lizmat weekly: donaldh.wtf/2019/07/the-vigenère-cipher/ 21:38
notable6 lizmat, Noted!
irced lo all, I want to use the junction any on an array of IO::Path to see if .s (size) property of any of the elements is not equal to a preset value (in this case I sampled the size of one value to the others with, but this is incidental). any thoughts on how to invoke .s on each element of the array to pass into the any junction? 21:39
timotimo no need
the junction will do it for you
irced cool, lemme try! 21:40
timotimo say so any($a, $b, $c, $d).s != $a.s
for example
also possible without junctions:
m: say [==] ($a, $b, $c, $d)>>.s
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable '$a' is not declared
at <tmp>:1
------> 3say [==] (7⏏5$a, $b, $c, $d)>>.s
irced nice and concise there trying now
just when I thought I knew perl6 syntax j/k ok I'll try both
timotimo if you don't know >> yet, you can also .map(*.s) instead 21:41
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irced timotimo: cool thanks for that tip and the others! 21:42
timotimo NP
irced now the wildcard token i recognize at least :-p 21:44
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AlexDaniel Kaiepi: I think it's easier if you manage to find a wikipedia page 21:51
Kaiepi: for example github.com/ajs/perl6-Math-Sequences/pull/40
I dunno if that formula makes sense, is there a way to generate these values without using the previous ones?
but it does the job, I think?
it feels like the sequence operator could benefit from some sort of built-in counter 21:52
sure you can add a state var, but then it looks messy 21:53
Kaiepi: here's the list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OEIS_sequences :)
Kaiepi that's much clearer! 21:56
thanks
AlexDaniel Kaiepi: also OEIS page mentions how some sequences are related to other ones, and if I'm not mistaken there are a few that depend on the Bell sequence github.com/ajs/perl6-Math-Sequence...bcb6e1edcc
maybe not, but keep an eye on it 21:57
it's a fun squashathon, but yes it's a bit hard to start :)
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irced well the .map or >> syntax had some issues with the comparison operation but the standard any(@file-ios).s !== @files-ios[0].s looks good to go. :-) 22:10
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irced postfixing the method on any() that is works like a charm 22:10
timotimo any/all and negations can be weird sometimes 22:11
irced mapping seems to add some complexity may as in subsequences, which I attempted to flatten but botched so anyway
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irced i will probably see it again and by that time may have seen enough perl6 to quickly manipulate it :-) 22:13
languages can be learned with more facility when one sees how it's used. oh wait, i thought this was a computer language. not! :-p 22:14
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tobs I wonder if the squashathon's repo could be forked, the webhook set up and the PRs merged there if the owner is indisposed. 22:33
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AlexDaniel tobs: I can merge the PRs 23:07
but can't add a webhook
that's how github works, I think, and I'm stupid for not noticing it earlier
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tobs ah, that sounds odd indeed 23:14
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AlexDaniel tobs: if it was in an organization, then it'd have been fine 23:15
I'm not sure why they don't allow access to the settings tab for personal repos
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AlexDaniel btw I hate the fact that these sequences have numeric IDs 23:21
just… why
like, why call it A000045 when you can call it A-FIBONACCI 23:22
timotimo easy 23:23
so that the list of OEIS specified sequences is itself an integer sequence
AlexDaniel :| 23:24
irced I say all it A-FIBONACCI.A000045
AlexDaniel timotimo: reminds me of that idea that “6lang” is not cool because it's not a valid identifier. Priorities :) 23:26
timotimo there's another letter that looks a lot like a 6, isn't there 23:27
some variant of a b maybe?
AlexDaniel б 𝟞 Ⳓ 𝟔 𑣕 6 𝟲 𝟨 𝟼 Ꮾ 23:28
irced rubs his eyes.
AlexDaniel some of these are numerically 6 though :)
unidump: бᏮⳒ𑣕𝟔𝟞𝟨𝟲𝟼 23:29
unicodable6 AlexDaniel, gist.github.com/fa0ac2b6252273d15b...455d0d1c4d
AlexDaniel unidump: 6бᏮⳒ𑣕𝟔𝟞𝟨𝟲𝟼
unicodable6 AlexDaniel, gist.github.com/300dd0855754d1be8b...4deeba1d82
irced really unicodable, it's like you're not even trying 23:30
AlexDaniel irced: what do you mean? It works as expected 23:31
irced careful
the Andy police frequent here.
irced eats a spider. 23:32
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irced en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Androids_...c_Sheep%3F 23:33
what no ketchup here? 23:38
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irced i'm slurping quoted strings line by line from a file into an array but the array is retaining the quote, what's a perly way to ignore the quotes and just read it as the string? 23:53
e.g. the line '/path/quoted' is slurped entirely with the apostrophe in the Str
timotimo depends entirely on your actual needs 23:54
will there be stuff like \t that has to turn into the tab ascii character?
irced so, there's a string with quotes
at either end
timotimo will there always be one quote in front, one quote at the end, or can there be multi-line strings?
irced always
always quoted '...'
timotimo in that case just .substr(1, * - 1)
irced good thinking, thanks for the suggestion! 23:55
how about if some have and some don't?
probable regex eh
timotimo if performance is at all critical, .ends-with and .starts-with will be a whole lot faster
irced \'? (.*) \'? / probably won't work but i am on the right track and maybe for performance address greediness 23:56
timotimo that's already greedy
irced \<[']>? (.() <[ 23:57
timotimo "'"?
irced <[']>? (.*) <[']>? / maybe
--> / <[']>? (.*) <[']>? / maybe
anyway, i'm sure there's some regex shorthand that will quickly get the match, and that the regex is similar to what I just drafted. thanks for helping me think thru this. any more suggestions welcome. 23:58
timotimo m: for [<'bleh' blah bloop' 'bleep meep>] <-> { .=substr(.starts-with("'"), * - .ends-with("'")); .say } 23:59
camelia Too many positionals passed; expected 0 arguments but got 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
timotimo m: for [<'bleh' blah bloop' 'bleep meep>] <-> $_ { .=substr(.starts-with("'"), * - .ends-with("'")); .say }
camelia bleh
blah
bloop
bleep
meep
irced nice

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