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| Geth | doc: 0436eaba21 | Antonio++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/List.pod6 fix definition of map not being considered code |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/type/List | ||
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| antoniogamiz | morning o/ | 06:22 | |
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| Xliff | \o | 06:25 | |
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| chloekek | p6: my $x := 1; say $x.VAR.perl; | 06:52 | |
| camelia | 1 | ||
| chloekek | p6: my $x = 1; say $x.VAR.perl; | ||
| camelia | 1 | ||
| lizmat | m: my $x := 1; say $x.VAR.^name | 06:53 | |
| camelia | Int | ||
| lizmat | m: my $x = 1; say $x.VAR.^name | ||
| camelia | Scalar | ||
| chloekek | Is VAR special cased in the compiler or is it a method? | 06:54 | |
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| lizmat | special cased, afaik | 06:58 | |
| github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/mast....nqp#L5998 | 06:59 | ||
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| chloekek | Thanks. | 07:02 | |
| p6: my $x := 1; say $x.REPR | 07:03 | ||
| camelia | P6opaque | ||
| lizmat | m: my int $x = 42; say $x.REPR | 07:05 | |
| camelia | P6opaque | ||
| lizmat | hmmm... | ||
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| lizmat | guess it gets HLLized first | 07:06 | |
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| chloekek | p6: use NativeCall; class A is repr('CPointer') { }; my $x = A.new; say $x.REPR | 07:13 | |
| camelia | CPointer | ||
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| daxim | lizmat, did you delete redd.it/ch5su7 as submitter or was it a subreddit moderator? | 07:28 | |
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| lizmat | daxim: I did | 07:29 | |
| also: I will no longer post on r/perl | |||
| Geth | perl6.org/more-adult-intro: 505b5152f8 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | source/index.html Give Perl 6 a more adult intro - de-emphasize being the sister of Perl 5 - emphasize part of the Perl community - emphasize continued development, rather than being just new |
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| perl6.org: lizmat++ created pull request #132: Give Perl 6 a more adult intro |
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| cpan-p6 | New module released to CPAN! Gnome::Gtk3 (0.17.5) by 03MARTIMM | 07:56 | |
| New module released to CPAN! Gnome::GObject (0.13.13) by 03MARTIMM | |||
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| lizmat | weekly: blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2019...ystem.html | 08:06 | |
| notable6 | lizmat, Noted! | ||
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| scimon | lizmat: Should I tell you about a blog post? Or just use weekly to note it? | 09:27 | |
| (Hi BTW) | |||
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| jnthn | lizmat: .REPR is an object operation (like .WHAT), so doing it on a native will first auto-box the native | 09:38 | |
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| lizmat | weekly: www.khanate.co.uk/blog/2019/07/24/p...d-testing/ | 09:54 | |
| yoleaux | 09:35Z <jnthn> lizmat: It wouldn't help much, since the issue is ultimately that one thread sees it's the first into the state block and runs the state initializer (which is what a `once` block is treated as, effectively), and then the second thread would (correctly) see it's not the first thing, so just sail on through and read the (so far uninitialized) state variable. | ||
| notable6 | lizmat, Noted! | ||
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| chloekek | Never realised I could write ^∞ instead of 0 .. ∞! 😮 | 10:01 | |
| p6: sub prefix:<Z> { ^∞ Z @^a }; for Z qw[a b c] -> ($i, $s) { say "$i: $s" }; | 10:03 | ||
| camelia | 0: a 1: b 2: c |
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| lizmat | scimon: A couple of noted on the argument s/noted/notes/ | 11:25 | |
| scimon | Oh yes. Thanks | ||
| lizmat | and the value got is used s/got/gotten/ ??? not sure about that one | 11:26 | |
| the amout of time s/amout/amount | |||
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| lizmat | scimon: that's it :-) | 11:28 | |
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| timotimo | scimon: how do you "use up Perl6"? :) | 11:35 | |
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| timotimo | scimon: does HTTP::UserAgent return a Failure or throw when an error is returned, like a 500 or a 404 or something? | 11:38 | |
| scimon | timotimo: Yeah probably. Like I say if I was being serious about it I'd add some tests for that kind of thing. | 11:39 | |
| I think "The value got" is allowed. | 11:40 | ||
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| scimon | (I've made changes) | 11:43 | |
| And I tagged it perl6 programming so tiobe should be happy ;) | 11:44 | ||
| lizmat | scimon++ | ||
| timotimo | do they search "perl6 programmnig" or "perl 6 programming"? | 11:48 | |
| scimon | .... Ummm | 11:49 | |
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| timotimo | i wonder if it'd be better to "use MAIN :named-anywhere" instead of "my %*SUB-MAIN-OPTS = :named-anywhere" | 11:57 | |
| really just a syntactic sugar cube | |||
| lizmat | timotimo: you can't export dynamic vars yet :-( | ||
| timotimo | dang | ||
| lizmat | I mean, they *do* get exported, but they're uninitialized | 11:58 | |
| scimon | I do love to auto generated usage stuff. :) | ||
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| timotimo | yeah | 12:09 | |
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| chloekek | p6: module M { our $x = 2; }; say 1; say $M::y; # why does this not fail at compile time? | 13:17 | |
| camelia | 1 (Any) |
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| chloekek | Also surprised it succeeds without no strict; | 13:21 | |
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| lizmat | chloekek: $M::y is short for M::<$y>, basically a stash lookup at runtime | 13:24 | |
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| chloekek | Aha. | 13:24 | |
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| lizmat | m: class A {}; dd A::<$foo> | 13:27 | |
| camelia | Any element{'$foo'} = Any | ||
| lizmat | m: class A {}; dd $A::foo | ||
| camelia | Any element{'$foo'} = Any | ||
| lizmat | m: class A { our $foo = 42 }; dd A::<$foo> | ||
| camelia | Int $foo = 42 | ||
| lizmat | m: class A { our $foo = 42 }; dd A::.keys | 13:28 | |
| camelia | ("\$foo",).Seq | ||
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| chloekek | p6: class A { our $foo = 42 }; dd A:: | 13:37 | |
| camelia | Stash element = {"\$foo" => 42} | ||
| chloekek | p6: module M { our $foo = 1; our sub f { say $foo } }; M::<$foo> = 2; M::f; M::<$foo>:delete; M::f; M::<$foo> = 3; M::f; | 13:39 | |
| camelia | 2 2 2 |
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| chloekek | Seems like the scalar container foor $foo is lexically captured by f. | 13:40 | |
| p6: module M { our $foo := 1; our sub f { say $foo } }; M::<$foo> = 2; M::f; M::<$foo>:delete; M::f; M::<$foo> = 3; M::f; | 13:42 | ||
| camelia | 1 1 1 |
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| chloekek | Make sense; lexically referenced ours aren't looked up in the stash at runtime. | 13:45 | |
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| Xliff | m: class X::Me is exception { has $.a; has $.b; method message { "{ $.a } / { $.b }" }; }; X::Me.new(a => 1, b => 2).throw | 14:18 | |
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> 'X::Me' cannot inherit from 'exception' because it is unknown. Did you mean one of these? 'Exception' 'Exceptions' at <tmp>:1 |
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| Xliff | m: class X::Me is Exception { has $.a; has $.b; method message { "{ $.a } / { $.b }" }; }; X::Me.new(a => 1, b => 2).throw | ||
| camelia | 1 / 2 in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| Xliff | Huh. | 14:19 | |
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| Xliff | m: class X::Me is Exception { has $.a; has $.b; method message { "{ $.a } / { $.b }" }; }; my $a = 1; $b = 2; X::Me.new(:$a, :$b).throw | 14:22 | |
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Variable '$b' is not declared at <tmp>:1 ------> 3 { "{ $.a } / { $.b }" }; }; my $a = 1; 7⏏5$b = 2; X::Me.new(:$a, :$b).throw |
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| camelia | 1 / 2 in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| perryprog | Weird question, but does anyone have some favorite perl 6 answers for codegolf.stackexchange.com? | 15:40 | |
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| jmerelo | squashable6: | 16:10 | |
| squashable6 | jmerelo, I cannot recognize this command. See wiki for some examples: github.com/perl6/whateverable/wiki/Squashable | ||
| jmerelo | squashable6: status | ||
| squashable6 | jmerelo, Next SQUASHathon in 7 days and ≈11 hours (2019-08-03 UTC-14⌁UTC+20). See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day | ||
| jmerelo | We've got to do something about this, I guess... | ||
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| xelak | m: class Intx is Int {}; my Intx $i = 42; | 16:14 | |
| camelia | Type check failed in assignment to $i; expected Intx but got Int (42) in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| xelak | Is there a way to overload the assigment operator so that this ^^^^ works? | ||
| jmerelo | xelak: internal classes are tricky. | 16:15 | |
| m: class Intx is Int {}; my Intx $i := 42 | |||
| camelia | Type check failed in binding; expected Intx but got Int (42) in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| jmerelo | m: class Intx is Int {}; my Intx $i .= new(42) | ||
| camelia | ( no output ) | 16:16 | |
| jmerelo | m: class Intx is Int {}; my Intx $i .= new(42); say $i.perl | ||
| camelia | 42 | ||
| jmerelo | well, who knew. That worked... | ||
| xelak ^^^^ | |||
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| xelak | jmerelo: I know it works this way, but I would prefer it if it'd work the other way :-) ... | 16:22 | |
| El_Che | jmerelo: did the heatwave reach Granada? | 16:23 | |
| not the regular one, I mean :) | |||
| antoniogamiz | so... I have a strange problem.. I have changed a file, I have executed and the changes have not appeared | 16:27 | |
| I even have deleted the .precomp dir and still nothing | 16:28 | ||
| El_Che | you probably didn't delere the correct one :) | 16:31 | |
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| antoniogamiz | I have deleted the one in the working dir and the one lib/ | 16:31 | |
| El_Che | in ~/.perl6? | 16:32 | |
| jmerelo | xelak: yep... but again, internal types are tricky. That's going to always work. Take into account that 42 is not supposed to be an Intx automatically; it's an Int literal, so you have to make it go through the hoops to make it become Intx | 16:33 | |
| El_Che | quick test: mv ~/.perl6 ~/perl6-backup | ||
| jmerelo | El_Che: I just came back from Western Spain. Yep, it was hot there... | ||
| El_Che | (except f you installed modules there :) ) | ||
| antoniogamiz | I did :* | 16:34 | |
| :(* | 16:35 | ||
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| antoniogamiz | he, if I execute the tests it recognizes the changes, but if I execute the program in bin/ it doesnt | 16:37 | |
| El_Che | jmerelo: for me Wastern Spain still sounds like being a poor hidalgo going there (and further) to make it big :) | ||
| the price of too many history books still floating around in my head :) | 16:38 | ||
| jmerelo | El_Che: a bit further west, but yep, kinda the same place. | 16:39 | |
| El_Che | jmerelo: I saw your twitter feed, travelling a lot lately it seems | 16:40 | |
| jmerelo | yep, I've been doing that a lot lately. Next destination: Riga! | 16:41 | |
| El_Che | jmerelo: taking (some of) your family? | 16:42 | |
| jmerelo | El_Che: 4/5 of it :-) | 16:44 | |
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| El_Che | ah nice! | 16:46 | |
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| antoniogamiz | have you ever heard about 'RaceSeq'? | 17:16 | |
| as a type in perl6 I mean | |||
| jnthn | Yes | ||
| antoniogamiz | mm, then it's not documented | 17:17 | |
| jnthn | m: [1..5].race.WHT.say | ||
| camelia | No such method 'WHT' for invocant of type 'RaceSeq'. Did you mean 'WHY'? in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| jnthn | m: [1..5].race.WHAT.say | ||
| camelia | (RaceSeq) | ||
| jnthn | It's what `race` returns | ||
| antoniogamiz | good, then I will open an issue because HyperSeq and RaceSeq does not appear in the docs | 17:18 | |
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| antoniogamiz | s/does/do sorry | 17:25 | |
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| cpan-p6 | New module released to CPAN! PDF::Class (0.3.7) by 03WARRINGD | 19:18 | |
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| SmokeMachine | should `perl6 -I.` use META6.json to know where to look for modules? | 20:16 | |
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| SmokeMachine | Should this work? www.irccloud.com/pastebin/DjZJGnoA/ | 20:29 | |
| www.irccloud.com/pastebin/J1WzfZ3q/ | 20:32 | ||
| ugexe | if -I points to a directory with META6.json then it will use that as the authority of what modules are available | 20:33 | |
| if -I points to a directory with no META6.json then the file system acts as the authority of what modules are available | |||
| the problem is you are using versions inside your provides section, which rakudo doesn't understand yet | 20:34 | ||
| zef already understands that though, so whatever rakudo does it will Just Work | |||
| s/whatever/whenever/ | |||
| SmokeMachine | rakudo do not understand :ver<> inside of the META6? | 20:35 | |
| ugexe | not inside the `provides` | 20:36 | |
| well, it doesn't undestand it anywhere either yeah | |||
| SmokeMachine | :( | 20:37 | |
| ugexe | zef parses those names with github.com/ugexe/zef/blob/e7389737...m6#L13-L30 -- if someone wanted to write that parser in nqp it we could put it into core and use it internally | ||
| SmokeMachine | ugexe: I was trying to use META6 to track database migrations with versions... do you think there is a better way to do that? | 20:38 | |
| ugexe | CompUnit::DependencySpecification.from-string("Foo::Bar:ver<1.0>") | ||
| theoretically where it might exist in the future^ | |||
| SmokeMachine | about the link... it doesn't seem to be extremely complex... I think I could try to implement it... | 20:40 | |
| ugexe | just remember it has to parse stuff like `Foo::Bar:auth<First Last [email@hidden.address] | ||
| but yeah other than that it shouldnt be hard | 20:41 | ||
| m: $*REPO.resolve(CompUnit::DependencySpecification.new(:short-name<Test>)).distribution.Str.say; | 20:44 | ||
| camelia | CORE:ver<6.d>:auth<perl>:api<0> | ||
| ugexe | distribution stringify the namespace to the format that requires a parser | 20:45 | |
| SmokeMachine | ugexe: should it be here? github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/612d...cation.pm6 | ||
| ugexe | yeah that is where i would put it | 20:47 | |
| SmokeMachine | ugexe: great! I'll start coping the perl6 version you sent me (the grammar) to there and test it... if it works, I'll try to convert that to nap, does that make sense? | 20:48 | |
| ugexe | sure | 20:49 | |
| MasterDuke | why does it have to be in nqp? | ||
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| SmokeMachine | speed? | 20:51 | |
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| ugexe | i mean it could prove it never gets used significantly on start-up to actually matter, but i suspect something needs to be added somewhere for figuring out the precomp path parts | 20:54 | |
| SmokeMachine | it's taking too long just too pull the repo... | 21:02 | |
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| discord6 | <Tyler (Aearnus)> what's the current weekly challenge? | 21:08 | |
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| SmokeMachine | ugexe: What should be populated on that class? | 21:23 | |
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| SmokeMachine | I'm not being able to compile... | 21:59 | |
| it hangs... | |||
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| SmokeMachine | www.irccloud.com/pastebin/G5acEGip/ | 22:08 | |
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