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Set by sorear on 4 February 2011.
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diakopter rn: say(|(|([4]))) 00:07
p6eval niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«4␤»
..rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤CHECK FAILED:␤Undefined routine '&prefix:<|>' called (line 1)␤»
diakopter sorear: do you know why rakudo doesn't like | there?
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diakopter r: say 1%0; say 1/0 00:31
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«0␤Divide by zero␤ in sub infix:<div> at src/gen/CORE.setting:2930␤ in method floor at src/gen/CORE.setting:8050␤ in method Str at src/gen/CORE.setting:8068␤ in method gist at src/gen/CORE.setting:2408␤ in sub say at src/gen/CORE.setting:7271␤ in block at /tm…
diakopter r: say 1%0; say 1%0
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«0␤0␤»
diakopter scratch the last
n: say 1/0; say 1%0
p6eval niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«Inf␤Unhandled exception: System.DivideByZeroException: Division by zero␤ at (wrapper managed-to-native) object:__icall_wrapper___emul_lrem (long,long)␤ at Builtins.mod (Niecza.Constants c, Niecza.Variable a1, Niecza.Variable a2) [0x00000] in <filename un… 00:32
diakopter sorear: rakudo and niecza have opposite behavior here; one div0 on /0 but not %0; the other does the inverse
er, converse 00:33
er, reverse
phenny: ask masak masakbot someone's buggy here ^^ 00:35
phenny diakopter: I'll pass that on when masak is around.
diakopter pugs: say 1/0 00:40
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT«*** Illegal division by zero␤ at /tmp/RAjX2yVlD1 line 1, column 5 - line 2, column 1␤»
diakopter pugs: say 1%0
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT«*** Illegal modulus zero␤ at /tmp/UxLtEyfu03 line 1, column 5 - line 2, column 1␤»
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diakopter sorear: how does one predeclare classes in niecza, for circular types? 00:47
in rakudo it seems you use stub with ...
sorear that works in niecza too 00:50
for some purposes
diakopter sorear: I keep getting "two definitions for" 00:53
"Two definitions found"
rn: class A { ... }; class B is A { has A $.foo }; class A { has B $.bar }
p6eval niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Two definitions found for symbol ::GLOBAL::A␤␤ first at /tmp/m9nFrIm0ty line 1␤ second at /tmp/m9nFrIm0ty line 1 at /tmp/m9nFrIm0ty line 1:␤------> ; class B is A { has A $.foo }; class A ⏏{ has B $.bar }[0…
..rakudo 8230ae: ( no output )
sorear diakopter: maybe it'll work if you use "my class" 00:56
diakopter rn: my class A { ... }; my class B is A { has A $.foo }; my class A { has B $.bar } 00:57
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: ( no output )
..niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Illegal redeclaration of symbol 'A' (see line 1) at /tmp/JAq55ZXYO6 line 1:␤------> lass B is A { has A $.foo }; my class A ⏏{ has B $.bar }␤␤Unhandled exception: Check failed␤␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/boo…
TimToady std: class A { ... }; class B is A { has A $.foo }; class A { has B $.bar }
p6eval std 77327a4: OUTPUT«ok 00:00 43m␤»
diakopter TimToady! 00:58
r: class A { ... }; class B is A { has A $.foo }; class A { has B $.bar }; say B.new.foo 00:59
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«No such method 'new' for invocant of type 'B'␤ in block at /tmp/bSpnIiCJt3:1␤␤»
diakopter um
it doesn't have a new method? 01:00
r: class A { ... }; class B is A { has A $.foo }; class A { has B $.bar }; say A.new.bar
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«No such method 'gist' for invocant of type 'B'␤ in sub say at src/gen/CORE.setting:7271␤ in block at /tmp/6LU_D9IzbV:1␤␤»
diakopter .. nor a gist method?
TimToady r: package A { ... }; class B is A { has A $.foo }; class A { has B $.bar }; say B.new.foo 01:01
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤A does not support inheritance, so B cannot inherit from it␤at /tmp/NS4XbU3Dnt:1␤»
TimToady r: class A is Any { ... }; class B is A { has A $.foo }; class A { has B $.bar }; say A.new.bar
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«B()␤»
TimToady there's the issue
diakopter r: class A is Any { ... }; class B is A { has A $.foo }; class A { has B $.bar }; say (A.new.bar).HOW 01:02
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«Null PMC access in get_bool()␤ in attributes at src/stage2/gen/nqp-mo.pm:1151␤ in method perl at src/gen/CORE.setting:804␤ in method gist at src/gen/CORE.setting:798␤ in sub say at src/gen/CORE.setting:7271␤ in block at /tmp/M_yCzk3f4Z:1␤␤»
diakopter eh
r: class A is Any { ... }; class B is A { has A $.foo }; class A { has B $.bar }; say (A.new.bar).WHO 01:03
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«().hash␤»
diakopter r: class A is Any { ... }; class B is A { has A $.foo }; class A { has B $.bar }; say (A.new.bar).WHICH
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«B␤»
diakopter r: class A is Any { ... }; class B is A { has A $.foo }; class A { has B $.bar }; say (A.new.bar).WHY
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«Any()␤»
diakopter r: class A is Any { ... }; class B is A { has A $.foo = A.new }; class A { has B $.bar = B.new }; say B.new.foo.bar 01:05
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«maximum recursion depth exceeded␤current instr.: 'print_exception' pc 89092 (src/gen/CORE.setting.pir:42611) (src/gen/CORE.setting:9060)␤called from Sub 'new' pc 160822 (src/gen/CORE.setting.pir:74886) (src/gen/CORE.setting:2272)␤called from Sub 'new' pc 126199 (sr…
diakopter rn: class B is Str is Int is Mu is Mu { }; say B.new.WHAT 01:09
p6eval niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤C3 MRO generation failed for B: B Str Int Cool Any <- | Mu | Mu | Mu | Mu | Mu Mu at /tmp/FcT03hrugY line 1:␤------> class B is Str is Int is Mu is Mu { }⏏; say B.new.WHAT␤␤Unhandled exception: Check fail…
..rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«B()␤»
diakopter rn: class B is Str is Int is Mu { }; say B.new.WHAT
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«B()␤»
..niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«Str()␤»
diakopter eh 01:10
rn: class A is Mu { }; say A.new 01:11
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«A.new()␤» 01:12
..niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«A.new(...)␤»
diakopter um
oh, it's .perl for some reason
(*unknown to me)
rn: class A is Mu { }; say ~A.new 01:13
p6eval niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«A()<instance>␤»
..rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«Cannot call 'prefix:<~>'; none of these signatures match:␤:(str $a)␤:(Str:D \a)␤:(\a)␤␤ in block at /tmp/UNxA_7XITt:1␤␤»
diakopter weird; can't stringify 01:14
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diakopter shortest program to exceed recursion depth (rakudo) or timeout due to recursion (niecza) 01:27
s/or/and/ 01:29
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diakopter rn: say (;),4 01:43
p6eval niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«Nil4␤»
..rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Method 'returns' not found for invocant of class 'Integer'␤»
diakopter ermagerd
r: say (;),;<>;4SHOULD NOT PARSE 01:52
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Method 'returns' not found for invocant of class 'Integer'␤»
diakopter hee
r: (;) 01:53
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Method 'returns' not found for invocant of class 'Integer'␤»
diakopter curious
phenny: ask masak hee: r: (;) <-- dies while parsing 01:55
phenny diakopter: I'll pass that on when masak is around.
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diakopter phenny: ask masak hee r: say (;:[]) 02:00
phenny diakopter: I'll pass that on when masak is around.
diakopter r: say (;:[]) 02:03
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Error while compiling block : Error while compiling op call: Error while compiling block : Error while compiling op call: Can only use get_how on a SixModelObject␤»
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[Coke] moritz++ #applying supernovus++ patch 02:38
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[Coke] r: say 286+348+6-80 02:56
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«560␤»
[Coke] r: enum X <a b c>; say a ~~ Int; say True ~~ Int 02:58
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«True␤False␤»
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dalek ast: 72d4c05 | coke++ | S02-types/nan.t:
Add a test for RT #83622
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isBEKaml hello, #perl6! 06:37
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sorear heello, isBEKaml! 07:01
isBEKaml sorear: how's things? 07:06
sjohnson my guess is, "prettaaay.. pretttaaay good." 07:07
isBEKaml that bad, eh? :) 07:09
I'm now sitting with Pugs after sometime. Trying to figure out how long it had been broken. :)
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sorear isBEKaml: neutral 07:23
isBEKaml: a bit busy, and utterly unmotivated to maintain niecza
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shachaf isBEKaml: Pugs was "working" for me Oct 2011, I think? 07:26
isBEKaml shachaf: Windows? base-3.x has System.Posix.Internals and all its type aliases, base-4.x have all of them removed. 07:28
shachaf Oh, I didn't see that.
I don't know about Windows.
isBEKaml shachaf: besides, it seems to be asking for System.Posix.Directory which is available under unix package. :/ 07:29
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isBEKaml sorear: sorry, planning to take a break and come back? 07:29
moritz jnthn: an attribute from a parent class has already generated it accessor, so the has_method will find it 07:34
s/it/its/
good morning 07:35
isBEKaml moritz: good morning.
moritz r: role R { method a { ... } }; class P { has $.a }; class C is P does R { }; say 'alive'
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«alive␤»
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moritz [Coke]++ # closing the pack patch ticket, which i forgot 07:38
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moritz r: my $x = Int.HOW; say $x^name 07:50
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤CHECK FAILED:␤Undefined routine '&name' called (line 1)␤»
moritz r: my $x = Int.HOW; say $x.^name
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«Perl6::Metamodel::ClassHOW␤»
moritz r: say lines[0] 07:59
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«Land der Berge, Land am Strome,␤Land der Äcker, Land der Dome,␤Land der Hämmer, zukunftsreich!␤Heimat bist du großer Söhne,␤Volk, begnadet für das Schöne,␤vielgerühmtes Österreich,␤vielgerühmtes Österreich!␤␤Heiß umfehdet, wild umstritten␤liegst dem Erdteil du inmi…
moritz r: say lines.perl 08:00
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«("Land der Berge, Land am Strome,\nLand der Äcker, Land der Dome,\nLand der Hämmer, zukunftsreich!\nHeimat bist du großer Söhne,\nVolk, begnadet für das Schöne,\nvielgerühmtes Österreich,\nvielgerühmtes Österreich!\n\nHeiß umfehdet, wild umstritten\nliegst dem Erdt…
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moritz nqp: say(nqp::substr("foo", 0, 35)) 08:02
p6eval nqp: OUTPUT«foo␤»
GlitchMr rn: say lines 08:09
p6eval rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«Land der Berge, Land am Strome,␤Land der Äcker, Land der Dome,␤Land der Hämmer, zukunftsreich!␤Heimat bist du großer Söhne,␤Volk, begnadet für das Schöne,␤vielgerühmtes Österreich,␤vielgerühmtes Österreich!␤␤Heiß umfehdet, wild umstritten␤liegst dem Erdteil du inmi…
..niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«Land der Berge, Land am Strome, Land der Äcker, Land der Dome, Land der Hämmer, zukunftsreich! Heimat bist du großer Söhne, Volk, begnadet für das Schöne, vielgerühmtes Österreich, vielgerühmtes Österreich! Heiß umfehdet, wild umstritten liegst dem Erdtei…
GlitchMr This string is put for fun? 08:10
moritz well, we need some kind of input for $*IN 08:11
GlitchMr rn: say $*ARGS
p6eval niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«Any()␤»
..rakudo 8230ae: OUTPUT«Dynamic variable name not found␤ in method gist at src/gen/CORE.setting:9955␤ in sub say at src/gen/CORE.setting:7271␤ in block at /tmp/Rm6bwJpTu3:1␤␤»
GlitchMr rn: say @*ARGS
moritz why not the Austrian national anthem?
p6eval rakudo 8230ae, niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«␤»
GlitchMr moritz: I guess it's more fun than just nothing or the code of program ;-)
In my eval bot, I have code of the program in STDIN. It's so pointless, but it works 08:12
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moritz GlitchMr: that makes it far to easy to write quines :-) 08:20
sorear n: say $*ORIG 08:32
p6eval niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«Any()␤»
sorear n: say $?ORIG
p6eval niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«say $?ORIG␤»
GlitchMr moritz: yeah, it's enough to type 'eval awk 1' 08:34
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moritz ä#C'Äd 08:42
sorear morgen Ronja
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dalek ast: 51fc070 | moritz++ | S02-types/nan.t:
[nan.t] add trailing semicolon
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lumi__ I'm consistently getting fails in t/spec/S32-io/IO-Socket-INET.t that seem to be related to multibyte characters 09:26
But I'm confused about how the test is built, running an external p6 and piping its result, I think 09:27
moritz yes, that's related to us now using an older parrot, because the newer ones have problems with readline 09:28
lumi__ moritz: The failures?
moritz yes
lumi__ moritz: Also the script seems to run "./perl6", which I think might be wrong 09:29
moritz lumi__: less than awesome at least 09:33
$*EXECUTABLE_NAME would be the better option
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je P Say 41 09:43
Perl6 say41; 09:44
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je perl6 say 41 09:44
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moritz p6: say 41 10:01
p6eval rakudo 8230ae, niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«41␤»
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sorear moritz: je left 10:17
moritz sorear: i noticed after my line, yes
dalek kudo/nom: edb767a | moritz++ | src/core/Str.pm:
allow substr($str, $first, Inf)
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not_gerd hello, #perl6 10:37
moritz \o not_gerd
not_gerd FYI: the readline failure might not be Parrot's fault
pir::print__is(pir::getstdin__P.readline) works in NQP, but not in Rakudo 10:38
moritz I thought so, because reverting to an older parrot "fixes" it
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not_gerd gdb tells me the stdin handle gets messed up or readline gets called on the wrong PMC 10:40
if the fault lies within the Parrot codebase, why does it work from NQP? 10:41
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tadzik ▄█▀ █▬█ █ ▀█▀ 10:52
the bug in Bailador which blocked the Star release is actually a bug in precompilation :(
tadzik cries into jnthn's sleeve
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not_gerd building rakudo with a non-optimized debug build of Parrot on Cygwin is s...l...o..o..o...w... 11:08
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tadzik yeah, I was working on --debugging rather than usual --optimize for some time 11:09
the pain :)
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moritz jnthn: ping 12:15
jnthn: I've tried to add some code to serialiaze and deserialize ByteBuffer, which we use in Buf
and well, I guess my approach was a bit naive :-) 12:16
because I thought I could simply use a ByteBuffer inside the serialization code
but lo and behold, "Can only use nqp_add_object_to_sc to add a 6model object"
the other types solve that creating 6model representations 12:17
does that mean we have to do that for ByteBuffer too?
a kind of Buf REPR, and then give the Perl 6 Buf type an object with such a representation?
if yes, fixing that is probably beyond casual weekend hack while herding Ronja :/ 12:19
or I wonder if we should say goodbye to ByteBuffer entirely, and use Strings with encoding 'binary' 12:23
jnthn o/ 12:36
moritz: Well, probably for buffers we really want to be using native arrays
moritz which are NYI :( 12:37
I'm trying to fix rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=114500 12:38
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moritz r: class A { has str $!x = 'foo'; method elems { nqp::p6box_i nqp::elems($!x) } }; say A.new.elems 12:40
p6eval rakudo edb767: OUTPUT«elements() not implemented in class 'Str'␤ in method elems at /tmp/DhCyWw4IZY:1␤ in block at /tmp/DhCyWw4IZY:1␤␤»
moritz oh, I should be using nqp::chars or so
_edwin hi! I have a question about spurt: currently both niecza and rakudo overwrite existing files. is the specced behavior of refusing to overwrite NYI, or is the spec out-of-date? 12:42
moritz _edwin: I think we decided on not making it the default
and I thought masak++ would do it; if it's not so, we should fix the spec 12:43
_edwin the spec currently does not even provide a way to allow/force overwriting if that's what the user wants, it seems 12:45
jnthn moritz: It may be possible to teach the serializer to handle ByteBuffer. 12:46
moritz _edwin: it seems that the Bool :$createonly = False in the signature means that the default is to overwrite files, but the text below doesn't reflect that
jnthn Well, it will be possible...# 12:47
It's just not what we want in the long run, but it's probablyOK fo rnow.
not_gerd btw, a workaround for the readline issue might be passing an explicit separator argument to the readline PMC method
moritz jnthn: I'm now experimenting with a binary-Str based Buf type instead 12:48
jnthn moritz: ok
dalek ecs: 6b2c810 | moritz++ | S32-setting-library/IO.pod:
[S32::IO] unconfuse description of &spurt, _edwin++
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_edwin that's why I asked: rosettacode.org/wiki/Globally_repla...les#Perl_6 12:55
moritz++ thanks for clarifying 12:56
I would have loved to write that with ==> spurt($_) 12:57
moritz does it work? 12:58
_edwin hm...testing. maybe it even works in rakudo 13:00
\o/ it does 13:01
not in niecza, though
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not_gerd filed ticket #115248 13:06
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moritz ok, Buf stuff works... except encoding and decoding :( 13:19
dalek ecs: bcc011f | (Edwin Steiner)++ | S32-setting-library/IO.pod:
Minor grammar edit.
ecs: 1d76a26 | (Edwin Steiner)++ | S32-setting-library/IO.pod:
Typos.
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_edwin why is 'a.txt'.path.open required as opposed to just 'a.txt'.open ? 13:31
moritz _edwin: because there are quite a lot of IO methods, and we don't want them all to clutter Str 13:32
also note that "a\nb\n".lines returns the list ("a", "b")
but IO.lines reads lines, instead of deconstructing a string
so we need to have some kind of division 13:33
_edwin maybe open could be put in Cool and do .path.open? 13:34
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_edwin $filename.path.open feels a bit unhuffmanly to me 13:36
moritz well, if $filename is an IO::Path object, you can just .open it right away
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moritz thing is, Str isn't actually a good representation for file names 13:37
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spider-mario should they be list of components? 13:47
and should components be strings?
hm 13:58
moritz well, on Linux, the components should be buffers
spider-mario $ perl Configure.pl --gen-nqp --prefix=$HOME/.perl6 13:59
…
Cannot chmod 755 /usr/bin/nqp
that’s new
moritz and on Windows there's a string-API for file names
spider-mario is it because I already have a system-wide nqp installed?
I have had one for months
it has never caused such a problem until now
moritz spider-mario: I don't think --gen-nqp and --prefix mix 14:00
spider-mario: if you don't let Configure.pl build a parrot for you, you can't chose a prefix either
(nqp's prefix is always the same as parrot's)
spider-mario it has built a parrot previously 14:01
it’s the first time that command fails
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moritz then use --with-parrot=$path/to/bin/parrot to make it pick up the right parrot 14:01
spider-mario oh, thanks
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tadzik jnthn: mind if I supply you with a testcase for some nasty precompilation bug? :) 14:18
jnthn tadzik: Sure, though if it's the one involving operators I already know it :) 14:19
tadzik no, it's not about operators
jnthn ah, ok
tadzik it's actually Bailador stripped to ~60 loc 14:20
jnthn: ge.tt/5ZfZvTP/v/0
thing is: if you precompile stuff and run test.t, it fails
if you run it without precompilation, it works
and... *drum roll*
if you comment out 'use Bailador::Test', (it's unused), it works too 14:21
wild guess: each 'use Bailador' causes 'my $app = Bailador::App.current' to become a different object
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jnthn Thanks, will look later tonight or once I get back home from this Stockholm trip. 14:32
tadzik okay, awesome
thanks
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not_gerd bye, #perl6 14:45
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rindolf Hi all. 14:53
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moritz my Buf patch seems to finally work. not_gerd++ 15:01
_edwin rosettacode.org/wiki/Visualize_a_tree#Perl_6 15:07
moritz _edwin++ 15:10
rindolf So the sub statement is lexical? 15:11
_edwin++
moritz yes
_edwin: just yesterday a similar question came up on perlmonks: www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=998803 15:12
_edwin hehe 15:14
the only thing in the VAST:: output my solution cannot do is the wrapping of lines
wouldn't be too hard to add, though 15:15
dalek kudo/nom: 837d0f8 | moritz++ | src/core/ (4 files):
switch Buf from ByteBuffer to binary string storage

the serializer knows how serialize strings, but not ByteBuffer; should fix #114500		 15:19
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pmichaud good morning, #perl6 15:40
phenny pmichaud: 10 Oct 02:27Z <[Coke]> ask pmichaud if we can close rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=68854
moritz \o pmichaud
erm, wrong line
good am, pm :-)
pmichaud phenny: tell [Coke] RT #68854 closed, thanks! 15:41
phenny pmichaud: I'll pass that on when [Coke] is around.
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dalek p: 86b5b43 | moritz++ | / (2 files):
fix command line parsing (RT #114720)
 16:03
kudo/nom: 0d2140b | moritz++ | tools/build/NQP_REVISION:
bump NQP revision to get command line parser improvements
 16:04
tadzik good guy moritz++. Removes code. Fixes tests 16:05
flussence r: enum V <a b c>; enum W <a b c>; say a.perl; 16:09
p6eval rakudo edb767: OUTPUT«W::a␤»
flussence n: enum V <a b c>; enum W <a b c>; say a.perl;
p6eval niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Illegal redeclaration of symbol 'a' (see line 1) at /tmp/iO2HJDmm4W line 1:␤------> enum V <a b c>; enum W <a b c>⏏; say a.perl;␤␤Illegal redeclaration of symbol 'b' (see line 1) at /tmp/iO2HJDmm4W line 1:…
moritz tadzik: it was me who wrote the errorneous code in the first place 16:10
tadzik Rewarded be thee, thy who saw teh error in yer ways :) 16:11
er, I messed it up :P
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moritz that was code from February 2011 16:14
I had thought it were older
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tadzik wow, blogs.perl.org on a Mojolicious rampage 16:30
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__sri the underlying question is actually quite interesting, too bad it's buried under mojolicious fud 16:32
tadzik yeah
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GlitchMr eval: print +'৪2' 17:04
buubot_backup GlitchMr: ৪21
GlitchMr perl6: print +'৪2'
Wrong eval...
p6eval rakudo 0d2140: OUTPUT«Cannot convert string to number: base-10 number must begin with valid digits or '.' in '⏏৪2' (indicated by ⏏)␤ in method Str at src/gen/CORE.setting:9951␤ in method print at src/gen/CORE.setting:7452␤ in sub print at src/gen/CORE.setting:7262␤ in block at /tmp…
..niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«Use of uninitialized value in numeric context␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 1295 (warn @ 5) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 294 (Any.Numeric @ 8) ␤ at <unknown> line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.s…
TimToady How dare they use ৪ to mean 4!?! :) 17:06
though one can kinda see how it developed that way by looking at related scripts 17:10
.u ৪
phenny U+09EA BENGALI DIGIT FOUR (৪)
TimToady .u ४
phenny U+096A DEVANAGARI DIGIT FOUR (४)
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TimToady n: use Niecza::UCD; say value('numericvalue', '৪'); 17:27
p6eval niecza v22-12-g960f328: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Q:CgOp not allowed in safe mode at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/Niecza/UCD.pm6 line 4:␤------> { (ucd_get_ranges {$table} {$matcher}) ⏏}␤␤Q:CgOp not allowed in safe mode at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/Niecza/UCD.p…
sorear o/
TimToady \o
masak o/ 18:03
phenny masak: 13 Oct 23:28Z <diakopter> ask masak masakbot see preceding; maybe rakudobug(s)
masak: 13 Oct 23:39Z <diakopter> ask masak see preceding; radkuobgu
masak: 00:35Z <diakopter> ask masak masakbot someone's buggy here ^^
masak: 01:55Z <diakopter> ask masak hee: r: (;) <-- dies while parsing
Further messages sent privately
masak oh, and phenny++ actually sent further messages privately. 18:04
diakopter: will get to stuff in due time. thanks.
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masak I have a Perl 6 day tomorrow. 18:28
but first, sleep.
'night, #perl6
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tadzik good knight masak :) 18:29
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rindolf masak: night. 18:40
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moritz forgiveness > permission 19:46
dalek kudo/nom: dfbfbb9 | moritz++ | src/core/terms.pm:
Add another dir to @*INC

In the long run I want panda and R* to install the modules there, instead of ~./perl6/lib, which is shared among different Rakudo versions. Currently this means that if you have precompiled modules in ~/.perl6/lib, R* fails to compile modules.
You can find this new dir with perl6 -e 'say $*CUSTOM-LIB' Better names are very welcome :-)
colomon foreign travelers: I'm trying to figure out what is needed to make my electronics work in Switzerland. I've discovered that everything I need to bring claims to handle 110-240 volts so at first blush all that is needed is a plug convertor. But then I notice Wikipedia claims Switzerland is actually on 250 volts?
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colomon moritz: I'm not sure I understand your new path name, but I've been saying ~/.perl6/lib is a bad choice for at least six months now. 19:51
moritz colomon: wikitravel claims 230V
colomon moritz: danke 19:52
moritz wikitravel.org/de/Stromsysteme # the English equivalent doesn't have the nice list
sorear colomon: voltages are not that precisely regulated, a system which is nominally 230V may be 210 or 250 on any given day 19:54
don't sweat the +-10%
Pleiades` ^
colomon \o/
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dalek kudo/nom: 8a07b84 | moritz++ | src/core/terms.pm:
refine $*CUSTOM-LIB

panda wants a prefix below which it creates bin/ lib/ and panda/ dirs. So now @*INC containts "$*CUSTOM-LIB/lib" by default		 20:20
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colomon moritz: are you thinking panda will be changed to default to using $*CUSTOM-LIB? 20:24
dalek nda/custom-lib: c181c9a | moritz++ | / (3 files):
stop installing to ~/.perl6

requires a pretty new Rakudo with $*CUSTOM-LIB support
tadzik :)
ask and ye'll be told :)
colomon \o/
moritz colomon: well, first let's do it in a branch :-)
colomon that's actually kind of huge. 20:25
moritz then we wait until pmichaud++ points out the holes in my plans
and see what tadzik++ has to say
and... we'll see :-)
colomon I don't like the name CUSTOM-LIB very well, but I completely support this otherwise. 20:26
moritz yeah, I don't like the name either
constructive bikeshedding welcome
colomon ah, where's TimToady++ when you need him? ;)
moritz perl 5 has "site lib" and "vendor lib", but I haven't quite figured out what they mean, and if we should copy that concept or not 20:27
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moritz www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t898...endor.html seems to explain it nicely 20:28
well, maybe we should have all three
sirrobert is there a way to write your own method dispatcher for a class (to handle multi-methods)? 20:29
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lue I can't get NativeCall to find ncurses :/ 20:29
flussence ncurses uses a weird soname, iirc 20:30
moritz lue: try a fully qualified path to the .so file
flussence on some distros anyway...
moritz sirrobert: your questions scare me :-)
sirrobert heh
jnthn evening o/ 20:31
moritz sirrobert: there are ways through the metamodel to change for example the method resolution order
sirrobert I'll take that as a "erm?" then
moritz: hmmm
moritz sirrobert: what are you trying to achieve (big picture)?
lue nope, doesn't work. I can put the test file and error message on gist if you'd like.
moritz I know I had a minimal curses screen in Rakudo not very long ago 20:32
jnthn sirrobert: Needing to do meta-programming is...unusual :)
sirrobert: See modules like Grammar::Tracer which override find_method. 20:33
sirrobert moritz: I've written a pretty nice REST API dispatcher. It allows me to make a grammatical interpretation of URLs and dispatch with methods like: method POST_inventory ($id) {...}
jnthn Oh. You actually are writing some kinda dispatcher. :)
moritz lue: gist.github.com/3416731 that's how it worked for me 2 months ago
sirrobert I'd rather do: multi method inventory ($id) { ... }
and have one version be dispatched if post, and another if get, or under various circumstances
jnthn: nod
also, I'm interested in understanding if there's a way of attaching arbitrary meta-data to a method, as Catalyst did in P5. Not sure if I want to use it, just want to understand it right now. 20:35
(preferrably declaratively)
lue gist.github.com/3889741 # here's what I got
jnthn sirrobert: If you must do this sorta stuff, override find_method, and check .is_dispatcher on the thing you get back from callsame to see if it's a multi..
There's not (yet) an API for custom multi candidate sorting.
sirrobert jnthn: hmmm ok. thanks 20:36
jnthn sirrobert: But you can get the dispatchee list and do as you wish with it.
moritz sirrobert: I'd rather do something like multi method inventory($id, :$POST!) { ... }
and then pass :POST on POST requests etc.
jnthn sirrobert: But...really, I'd see if there ain't a better way :)
lue Hm. I don't have any of that .so.5 for ncurses, but other than that I've got essentially the same file. 20:37
moritz or maybe multi method inventory($id) is handler-for <POST GET> { }
sirrobert moritz: How would that work? Wouldn't $POST just contain 'GET' if you did .inventory(23,'GET')?
sorear lue lives!!!
moritz no, :$POST! is a named, required argument 20:38
sirrobert ohh named
moritz so you have to call .inventory(24, :POST) to call it
sirrobert hmmmmmmmmmmm
that's pretty good
moritz and then have whatever handles the URLS pass the HTTP method as a named argument
moritz -> sleep
sirrobert moritz: thanks
ok, my wife needs me to head home. later all. 20:39
lue O.o Even though I don't have libncurses.so.5, using moritz's file still worked‽
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lue decides to accept it, 'cos it makes his own test file work now. 20:40
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jnthn takes an early night... Not feeling 100%, and got $meeting here tomorrow... 20:49
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dalek osystem: 9b1655d | (Sir Robert Burbridge)++ | META.list:
added Semantic::Versioning
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